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William Walker schrieb: > Mark said: > What's missing for me with the M13 relative to the AM8000R from a > signal flow standpoint is if I want to get some straight signal in > addition to the ambient effects. There are definitely interesting > effects to get by cranking the mix to fully wet on the earlier effects > and reprocessing with the later effects and this isn't really viable > with the Line6 effects if you also want some dry signal since each > effects section just feeds into the next. > > Maybe you are using a different effect than me???? There are a few dry > thru delays on the M-9/13 that allow just what you are taking about, > and then there are individual mix controls for every effect, which > will do the same thing, So you are lamenting the lack of a wet and dry > output? Mark, i can't wait to see the looper/multi effect you have > on the design board. It will have every feature known to mankind!!!! The way I understand Mark's post - and from the M9 manual it seems it's not possible with the M9: Let's say you want the following: Your dry signal goes into a pitch shifter. The full wet pitch shifted signal goes into a delay (50/50 mix). Then both the output of the delay and the dry signal go into a reverb. The way I understand the M9's routing concept (which is, basically, like three stompboxes in series), that is not possible with the M9. Btw, Mark, perhaps you can find a Sony GR-MP5 w/ optional remote control for next to nothing - because that's something this old Sony thing can do. (but then again, it's a 9.5'' rack unit). Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs