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Ok bro,something still intrigues me though,in Antwerp after my show you said to me that my performance was nice but you wish i hadnt use canned loops,then you realized after seeing my video that i had done it all myself and you were amazed. Which tell me that the musical end result from the rhytmic perspective was now only acepted because i had done it with my mouth. Yet you really liked Margaret Nobles performance but she used analog grooves coming from the Jomox drum machine to accompany her looping. Soooo my question is: if i use a drum machine should it only be strange and abstract for it to be accepted by loopers? should loopers not use drum machine grooves even if u program them yourself? should a drum machine be only used for production but not for live looping? should a drum machine better stay home and be banned for live looping? should we not use the midi sync functions from looping devices like the EDP and Mobius to operate with groove boxes? should loopers be not allowed to dance? shoulkd we egg this scientlogy guy for using a drum machine live and never let him into our loopers cult? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-l3_gwIOTGI&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4yt3rH6lcQ&feature=related On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: >> >> I'm with Gareth here. Dont mind if someone builds his looping song for >30 >> minutes, if the shit is good! :-) > > Yeah, Miro Mantere is a master of making a 30 minute live looping single > song that just builds and builds > with intensity. It's just very rare in my experience. It's just >my > aesthetic so I don't mean to try and > convince everyone of it, but too much canned shit loses me, emotionally > when I listen to a live looper > even if the loops are built quicker with such elements included. If a > musician is creatively engaging the audience > with their construction of a piece of music (witness, Miro's last > loopfestival performances) I don't think it is > destructive or counterproductive to take time to build a looping piece. > Honestly, I think most live loopers > fear an audiences boredom more than the audience actually feels boredom >in > such a case. Of course, > performance aspects that are non musical can have a salutory effect on a > performance. In other words, > though I agree with Gareth that pure musical content is vastly important >in > a performance, I honestly don't think it > is the end all and be all of all performance from an audience standpoint. > NOT a musicians' standpoint. > > In fact, from my experience as a performing musician in dozens of > different kinds of contexts (from live looping to solo performing to >small > or large band performances in many different > genres), I would say that pure music rarely makes up the largest part >of a > musical performance and it's effectiveness. > Visual presentation, audience interaction, even lighting and multi-media > presentation can have a huge effect on > audience response. > > Everything shouldn't be gauged by listener response, of course, but I've > taken to watching audiences' responses to performances at the looping > festivals just as much as listening to the performers and a lot can be > garnered from watching what flies and what engages and what doesn't. > It > shouldn't be the only thing that guides a performers > decisions........indeed, > sometimes I think it's an artists' responsibility to even educate an > audience or to challenge them with > new modes of expression............but it is interesting to watch. > > Being forced to be as present as possible by MCing 36 continual hours of > each looping festival > has been really instructive to me about trying to keep an audience >engaged. > > It's always fascinated me that there are performers like Lilli Lewis, who > uses an RC-2, a microphone and her voice > for an entire 30 minutes and has an audience just riveted from top to > bottom. She takes a long time to build her > loops, too. but there is something very visceral and 'real' about her > performances, despite being some of the > lowest tech shit to come down the pike in a long time at the festival. > >