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I've seen this thread flashing by and would like to just chime in a short comment, without having read many earlier posts in the discussion. The thing is that the subject line is not very clear to me. While Ambiloop is ambient looper, Mobius is an all round looper. So they are kind of "apples and oranges" in the regard of comparing how well they create seamless loops. For Ambiloop the creation of seamless loops is its very purpose, at least from what I remember of the release long ago. But with Mobius you have to use looping techniques that create seamless loops. The main technique is to go out of Record or Multiply Mode by Overdub and play/provide source audio matching a "soft closing" of the loop point. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub