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thanks richard and rick....."slice and dice" is really not a big issue to me NOW.....richard, if i create a 5 sec. loop can i also create a 4 sec. loop and play the two together and have that evolving loop then play?.....after i posted my first question, i had the thought, why not get an M9 and have all the firepower (fx).....thoughts????.....keep in mind, i am a RANG lover!!!!!