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When ever I'm in the mood for some lower octaves I check this out :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtLcELU1brA&feature=related Actually i rarely use the octave below setting which is decent on the M-9 and based on the boss so tracking is similar. And I've used the bass octave settings on the Fireworx which have a typical harmonizer's latency which means there is a bit. Don't remember what you are using for looping but if it does any kind of quantize replace, I will create a quantized replace created sequence and then half speed it, or the more challenging way would be to play your part twice as fast as you would want it to sound and then half speed that. On the Looperlative, I have a simple yet effective combination preset that combines replace with track speed, so that when you come out of replace its in the new octave, which can either be an octave lower if you start the replace in normal track speed, or an octave higher if you start the replace while in half speed. Actually believe it or not , I always found the blending of the direct guitar sound with my roland guitar synth set to whatever analog bass patch I could muster (a GR30 wasn't great but it was polyphonic) sounded better than most octavers or harmonizers I have used. Bill |