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Re: Mobius latency compensation



Luis,

What sort of problems are you having when trying sync mobius and
ableton?  I have no issues with mobius as the master, other than
sometimes a loop that I hear as a single bar ends up as two bars in
ableton (or vice versa, can't remember which right now).  BPM sync is
solid and seems to re-sync at the start of the loop.

Sylvain


On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Louie Angulo
<louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Jeff i have a question,
> in playing around with both Abletons looper and Mobius as a plugin
> there is a BPM difference when i try to use Mobius as a master with
> Ableton which is unfortunately unusable if trying to sync grooves to
> it.
> Mobius seems to be much better as a slave though,but Abletons looper
> is very acurate as a master.Is this something that will work in future
> versions just as well when being used as a plugin perhaps?
> cheers
> Luis
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> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:12 AM, Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com> 
>wrote:
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>>> I've been trying to set up the above so overdubs go where they should
>>> and stay there on subsequent passes.  A couple of attempts have ended
>>> in frustration, i figured not helped by the fact that I'm using the
>>> built-in soundcard on an old desktop machine.
>> If you haven't already done so, read this section of the installation 
>guide:
>>    http://www.circularlabs.com/doc/installation.htm#Tuning Latency
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>> Assuming you are using Windows, if you are using the built-in sound card
>> you will be using an "MME" driver which has very high latency.  It is
>> possible
>> for Mobius to compensate for this so that your overdubs will line up but
>> you have to enter the right values into the latency fields in the
>> Audio Devices window.  Sometimes the driver is able to tell us what
>> the latency is, other times it can't and we have to enter it manually.
>> This is explained in the manual.
>> If you use a pro audio interface it will come with ASIO drivers that
>> have very low latency.  Often people don't even bother tuning latency
>> compensation since it is so slight that it is hard to hear even if it
>> is off by a few milliseconds.
>> As an alternative to buying a pro interface you could also try
>> ASIO4ALL which will give the built-in sound card an ASIO driver.  I have
>> had success with this, but if you're serious about sound quality you
>> should still consider an external interface.
>>> Reading the previous thread on mobius latency, according to Per it's
>>> not possible to achieve perfect sync i.e. it will always drift a bit.
>> I'm not sure what this was referring to, but you can certainly tune
>> latency compesnation for exact alignment of overdubs and once set it
>> won't drift unless you are also changing your physical location
>> relative to your monitor speakers.
>> Jeff
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