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Louie Angulo wrote: > i understand that small companies are trying to give us what we want > blah,blah, buttom line,i dont just print money and they will only get > my support when they deliver a reliable product. I know you had a really bad experience with the Liquid Foot, and that the guy in charge really didn't understand or care about using his hardware for looping. let's not forget there certainly *are* companies that do exactly that. Xavier's Gordius footcontrollers are certainly reliable, and do everthing a looper could hope for. ..and for that matter, the EDP. andy