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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, ^|>^m wrote: > */I just noticed on the website that LP1's are out of stock. Are they > still in production? /* > > <http://www.looperlative.com/products.php?cat=7> Theoretically, they still are, but the cost of each individual unit is so high that Bob needs a commitment of at least 12 units to make a future run financially viable. Right now, a concerted commitment of 12-15 people to purchase a new one at $1200 (the lowest price that makes manufacturing and selling the LP-1 financially viable) will make the unit available again. For the last several months, there have only been 3 or 4 calls to purchase a new unit. If people are interested in buying one, I would highly suggest that they get organized and see if they can drum up 12 loopers to go in on a group buy. I'd be happy to facilitate such a campaign if anyone needs help. Bob is putting all of his financial energy and time, currently, into getting the LP-2 Mini Looper launched. Remember folks, Bob is a 1 person business and the coding and manufacturing of Looperlative is also shared with his full time job and the task of running a family of 5. He just doesn't have the marketing resources, the financial resources or the person power to compete with large companies like Roland, Line 6 and Digitech. Andy Butler and myself help when we can but don't have the physical ability to help out with manufacturing (Andy's in England, I'm a technically incompetent). Given those limitations, future development of LP-1 software functionality will still continue (with some cool things in store!) and more attention will be paid to that end as soon as the LP-2 is available on the market. The sudden, yet protracted death of Bob's father and some technical glitches have slowed the release of the LP-2 Mini Looper but he's working very hard on it as we speak. We are in the final Beta testing phases, however, so things are looking good. There is also a distinct possibility that a third Looperlative looper will be created by Bob that will have a smaller feature set (probably 4 or 5 tracks, no AUX outs) that is essentially the same as the LP-1 but realistically speaking, this unit is several months from any kind of manifestation. Such a unit would probably run in the $800-$900 range. Rick Walker for Looperlative