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> i would disagree w/ the frisell not being "innovative". his > disfarmer disc and his live double disc from a few yrs ago had some > great stuff on there. and when i saw him live 2 yrs ago, his little > 2 min looping thing had people scratching their heads-it was a great > noisefest- Let me clarify, I think Bill Frissell is a tremendously innovative musician , and having seem him play since the first time I caught him with Tiger's Baku at Pooh's Pub in Boston in 1978 and seen him recently as well, his looping moments are always musical and brilliant. I'm talking about the extended techniques that the EDP and a bit later the Electrix repeater offered, and that are available in one form or another along with a bunch of other cool editing features on the Looperlative and various software platforms . But maybe its splitting hairs a bit, but a guy like David Torn really has employed those techniques whereas Frissell has somewhat scratched the surface. Someone mentioned Andre Lafosse, who was very innovative in his self described turntablist guitar approach, I found more inspiration watching him in the couple of gigs we shared than any of the more established names mentioned thus far, and that goes for several musicians on this list as well, guitarists and non guitarists alike. Bill