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Yes, thanks for explaining it better than I could Mark. I did know that you can press stack while recording but that involves the tap dancing while your trying to lay down,let's say, a rhythmically accurate loop. I did have it set for seemless loop boundaries as well because I would always hear this fade in/out otherwise, when playing a bowed string instrument. It was unusable for me without that feature. I also wish the boomerang could be set to loop like this: > Rec/Dub --> Recording > Rec/Dub --> Overdubbing > Rec/Dub --> Playing I also know that it's possible to loop my instrument without clicks and with seemless loop boundaries because I can accomplish it in Mobius. Yes, it's software, but iI think t's also software in the boomerang too that is running the show. On Jun 11, 2011, at 5:33 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > On Jun 11, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Grant wrote: > >>> I agree with you Mark. When I had the Boomerang that's the one thing >>> that really bothered me. You can't go straight >into overdub after you >>> finish the first loop. You can can tap the stack button before the >>> loop end point (If you >created a short loop on loop3 to set the >>> tempo) but it is too much tap dancing or at least my music suffered >>> when I'm >quickly trying to press stack and play my instrument. Would >>> be nice if you could set it up to go straight into stack >mode after >>> establishing the loop. I also noticed that if I left it in stack mode >>> and switched between loops1-3 I >would get clicks and pops. This was >>> even if I wasn't playing anything on my instrument. I solved both of >>> these issues >by using Mobius in software land but then I gained all >>> the issues of using a computer:) Would be pretty awesome if >these >>> things could be worked out on the boomerang. It would be a perfect >>> compact looper for my serial style looping. >> >> I believe you can press Stack anytime while a loop is recording (with >> or without a master loop) and stacking will begin on that loop when you >> end recording (Serial style). If you get a click it might be because >> you have it set for seamless stacking (for drones) and this overides >> the loop boundry smoothing. Just some things to check or try. > > You can indeed press stack while recording. That's where the tap-dance > part comes in. > > Loop N switch to start recording > Stack (possibly a hold if you use the default configuration) > Loop N switch to finish loop and start stacking > Stack to stop stacking > > Contrast this to Line 6, the Looperlative, etc: > > Rec/Dub --> Recording > Rec/Dub --> Overdubbing > Rec/Dub --> Playing > > Or to the EDP: > > Record --> Recording > Overdub --> Overdubbing (and note that overdub is the next switch > over) > Overdub --> Playing > > I'm trying to convince Mike Nelson that you should be able to finish > recording with a hold and have the loop length set based on the button > down point but it would stack at decay 0 (feedback 100%) until you > released the button. If you really want to do the Frippertronic ever > evolving loop thing, you would still want to use the stack button > behavior, but for a simple "keep the delay tails" loop closure this > would work. > > The mockups of the forthcoming sidecar has a dedicated stack button > which one could argue should exit recording and go into stacking if one > was recording. Then you could use it just like the EDP. > > Returning to what the Boomerang does as opposed to what it doesn't do. > I've played some more and I've done some more half-speed work and I'm > now quite happy with the sound quality. So, except for it being too hard > to go from record into overdub, this is proving to be a great box. (Did > I mention how small it is and how solid it feels and how great the > switches are?) > > Mark > -------------------- Todd Matthews toddbass.com twitter: gtodd876