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Re: changing plugin presets in ableton via midi

Per and FRO... 

have you considered this as a possibility?

http://liine.net/en/products/kapture/

Also, when I need to change presets, I often end up using the midi clip idea to change the position of the chain selector in an audio rack.  This keeps everything together and manageable. It's in the manual clearly, just search for 'chain selector'.  It runs along a track from 0-127, just like every other midi command and you can stack up to 127 instances of a plug-in with different settings.  Actually a little obtuse at the beginning to understand, but when you have, it's incredibly useful, even including fades between effects.  (or presets, in this case)

Cheers, Todd

On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 7:16 PM, FRO DIDDLY <parispro00@hotmail.com> wrote:

howdy all

ive been struggling to find a good way to change plugin presets in ableton-

i have a track with an EQ on it. As the song progresses ild like to have the EQ change to another preset on receiving a midi command.
i thought this would be easy but i cant seem to figure out how to do it-

i dont have any VSTi's, but i would imagine they would completely worthless if you couldnt change tones during a song... thus there has to be a way to assign midi bank and PC messages or something of the sorts to archive and access your tones....
so why cant i do this with effect plugins?

is it the fault of the VST? does the vst have to have a menu or something to allow you to link midi to the tone preset? because every basic comp/eq/gate plugin-in simply has the load/save options....the waves bundle is the same way...honestly ive never seen a vst that has these options

the alternatives ive read thus far are as follows, and im just curious if theres any hope for another solution:

1) use only live's plugins and map parameter or macro controls...... i dont like this at all because i want to keep my tones seperate from ableton and simply use it as my mixer in hopes of simplifying any issues from switching hosts down the road-
2) i read there is a way to assign the output of a midi track to the input of a VST plugin somehow to send it PC and bank messages...... but i am not sure how to connect these messages to plugin presets.....is this option only available on certain VST's?.... also, would i then need a midi clip for each preset?  that would be several hundred midi clips on a single midi track.... is that normal? ...and then i would bind a midi message to trigger the midi clip to send a midi message to the vst?
i have not gotten anywhere close to getting this to work as i have yet to find a good explanation/walkthrough
3) use an elaborate matrix of audio effect racks.... this leads to hundreds of duplicated plugins when in reality i only need 1 plugin and hundreds of presets.....

am i missing something? take into consideration im an ableton noob......
any other options?!

how in the heck do you guys changes your tones and fx via midi?

ty

The Wandering Madman



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