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On Aug 2, 2011, at 1:24 AM, andy butler wrote: > How would *you* combine EDP type multiple loops > with multi-tracking? See Ableton Live? Basically, tracks are groups of loops and within a group at most one loop can be playing at once. Then make it easy to switch between loops within a group and to do things like copy within a group. I keep thinking something like the Line6 M13 hardware would actually make a great multitrack looper given the 5 x 3 buttons. Imagine using three of them for a mode selector and then using the remaining 4 x 3 to do things like: * 4 groups of 3 loops. Tap to play. Tap to stop playing. (Tap an empty loop to record.) * 4 groups with 8 buttons for working within the group * A dedicated quantization page for access to the current quantization value Etc. If you use long presses, you can access even more things. The other nice thing about a dedicated unit as opposed to a rack unit plus an arbitrary MIDI foot controller is that you can probably do a lot more with status feedback on the device. Mark