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My minimum requirements for a looper would seem to be 90 seconds of sample time, and overdub capability. I have had lots of fun with shorter loop times, but you need feedback control to keep it interesting, and having independent volume control also helps make it more musical. Most of what I do with looping is sample capture and playback--but even then, without FB it's pretty easy to get caught in the "lobster trap" . . . The trick for me, then, is to be able to create the "full sound" I get with looping exclusive of the loop, so as to make transitions between the states. I noticed this with Tom Griesgraber, the looping stick player, that he would grab a loop while keeping both hands going. As a plectrum guitarist, usually acoustic steel string, it's hard to have two independent elements simultaneously, so extensive use of custom tuned harmonicas have enabled me to do it more easily (I did this at Y2K2 with a Lee Oskar Melody Maker, but am now designing my own tunings.) Of course, not everyone cares for the harmonica, no matter how you tune it (especially true with the diatonic--chromatic is less strident). Still, this provides a melody independent of the guitar which can then go between the looped and non-looped states--and the niceties of loop control are less crucial. I have getting by with the RC-20 (which died) and a Digitech Jamman, and just added a Boomerang III. None of these are uber-loopers--I like using the EDP but it really needs a foot controller, which is one more thing to set up, and takes up floor space. I am hoping the LP-2, when it arrives, will be the uber-looper for more intricate looping of a non-minimum nature. Oh, Bob, how ya coming on that LP-2 . . . Gnarly