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I must concur wholeheartedly. PRE-recorded looping is karaoke style looping. That is why I keep things so minimal. I'm aware of the pending trainwreck I will have if things get too fancy. I shy away from too much instrument looping too because the way a banjo is setup you are a bit hamstrung melodically from the get-go. (it's that short demon string). That is the first thing I have to do when I play is mute out all those PRE recorded rock drums that Roland felt in their infinite wisdom I could not live with out. It's happened many a time. I'm getting my punkgrass hyper 2/4 jam on and I hit loop and some cheesy out of (my) time 4/4 rock beat comes on. I look like a clown! I'm still new at this and probably should hold my tongue on this matter. Chaz Worm - singer, bass, banjo Earth, Worm, &, Fire and Electric Light Opry http://chazworm.com http://YouTube.com/ChazWorm On Nov 5, 2011, at 11:34 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote: > Much is said about audiences not knowing the difference between someone > hitting play on a computer that has complete tracks stored, someone > playing over > pre-recorded loops or someone who is looping everything in front of an > audience. > > I go to see a very wide variety of musical performances that use > technical augmentation, from ones that are completely > canned (Fisher Spooner) to ones partially canned (a tremendous amount of > the > big electronic shows) to artists who do all of their looping live in > front of the audience. > > My experience is that people really do get, viscerally, when someone is > playing something in real time > that they loop and then play other things against (including other > loops). > > A couple of artists in recent years, who shall remain nameless, have > only played in real time over > loops or samples that were pre-recorded. The energy of their sets was > really markedly different > from the ones that didn't take this approach. Of course, our loop > festival audiences are not typical > but many people complained about these performances after the fact. > They bothered me, to be honest. > > The fact of the matter is it's infinitely easier to do all of your > looping ahead of your performance > and then just fly them in as is musically suitable. > > To me, it's much more dangerous to have to pull all of one's tech off in > front of an audience; to > play live in real time in front of an audience even if you are looping > yourself for augmentation's sake. > > That's why , despite the fact that no one could tell from merely a > recording of a performance whether someone > looped live or just flew in pre-recorded loops or samples, I think > there is a huge difference between the two > and this is why I am proud to be a live looping artist. > > This is why I specifically make the distinction that the Y2K Festivals > are Live Looping Festivals > and why I send out a performance agreement before booking people a spot > on the festival. > Out of 11 years of performance only two artists have disregarded the > rules about creating live looping > content in front of the audience. We'll have to have a heart to heart > talk if those artists ever want to > play the festival again. > > Rick Walker >