Re: Live Looping versus using Pre-Recorded Loops

[Phil Clevenger <phil.clevenger@gmail.com>]

W/R/T taking a one-bar figure and mapping it to actual chord changes... Ableton will allow things like this...

Make a one-bar loop of MIDI content (or MIDI-driven samples of audio waveforms - you need lots of samples for this though).

Then with the Scale, Chord, and Random MIDI effects you can take that same one-bar figure and remap it on the fly to use the appropriate notes for any of your changes... and using the Random effect you can set it to 'color outside the lines' just enough to stay interesting and not sound so mechanical. Takes a bit to set up the starting conditions, but once done it's super fun, and 'playable'... you can spontaneously generate the first bar, then with the MIDI operators mapped to your controller of choice, make on-the-fly choices as to changes, randomization, etc... so it's not canned, nor is it cheating :)

Phil :)

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Michael Carlson Music <music@carlsonarts.com> wrote:

Per,

Or, didn't someone at the SC loopfest say you can do scripting in Live like in Mobius?  Maybe I could create a script to do all those things in Live without boring the audience, for example to extract the first 8th of a measure to capture the syllable I want.

But I'm really trying to do everything in Mobius as a standalone because it is so incredibly stable so far in my performances.  I am, however, beginning to incorporate my VoiceLive to provide some effects and harmonization so I don't have to build so many layers over time. VoiceLive will give me a full harmonization with up to 5 voices.  Mostly, I'm just building the layers two voices at a time, though, like this:

http://www.youtube.com/provocals#p/u/2/U08NfEPuz6o

You can create a step sequence of harmonies with the VoiceLive, so, I might find a way to just use a step sequence of chords in it, slaved by MIDI somehow to Mobius to change to the next step every measure, and then run the sampled syllables and "oo"s "ah"s and such through the voicelive to create the chord changes every measure! I could use a loop with any sounds at all, on any syllable (even one that isn't tuned or pitched) to create the harmonies, and then capture them in a longer loop.

Is creating a MIDI chord sequence beforehand like that "cheating"?

Peace,
Michael

On Nov 8, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Per Boysen wrote:

You can also do it in Live if you don't mind boring the audience some
extra seconds to work on the computer screen; you need to first record
a clip and then go into clip edit mode to set the start point at the
word/syllable you want to play from the keyboard. Then set the clip
launch properties to legato and play ahead.