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The first issue is a pretty bad feature oversight, the latter is a pretty bad bug. All this has been mentioned many times on their forums. Other than these problems it's a great little device (the native routing options are particularly fantastic). We can only hope that if/when Live 9 ever comes along it'll be sorted out properly.
Of course, you can loop in Live without 'Looper' but that itself has limitations; it's difficult to undo/redo, etc. It's meant for playing with pre-recorded loops, live (not live looping!). One nice feature of the Looper is that you can drag and drop a loop you've recorded into it straight into Live's 'clip view' as a normal clip and you can then jam with it that way. Great for improvisation-fueled recording and saving ideas for later.
This discussion has reminded me that I need to give Mobius another shot! (At least until Ableton get their acts together.)
Philip.--On 24 November 2011 17:27 +0100 Reyn Ouwehand <loopers-delight@reyn.net> wrote:
I've been using the build in looper from Ableton the last year.. I got like 9 running at the same time (Keys1, Keys2, Drums, Bass, Guitar 1, Guitar 2, Vocals 1, Vocals 2, Vocals 3). But when I do an action, record or overdub, the whole mix get's a bit of a hickup... Maybe I should give Mobius one more try... Cheers, Reyn www.reyn.net www.studiothechurch.com On Nov 23, 2011, at 11:08 PM, Per Boysen wrote: Also check the sample rate setting of Live and your soundcard. If set to anything else than 44.1 kHz Mobius will cause trouble. Per On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote: Set Mobius to the host sync you want to use. There is "host bar" and "host beat". Also check your settings under Mobius Track Setup regarding outputs. If not using separate track outputs there should be no more issues in that department but if setting Mobius to coax out loops over separate track outputs you need to hook up appropriate Live tracks' input slots to fetch these streams. Finally, also check the MIDI control of Mobius and of Live. For me the most stable has proven to be to disable all Mobius targetig MIDI passing through Live. What I do instead is to go into Mobius preferences and tell the looper to listen directly to the MIDI port I'm plugging my MIDI foot controller into. So Live doesn't even know Mobius has a pirate line of its own to snag external info. (another approach here would be to set up a MIDI track in Live to pipe the external control MIDI into the Mobius plugin - but why bothering with all that when you don't need to?) I suspect you are using conflicting settings in one or many of those areas. Hope you get it going soon! I've been playing here all day with Mobius Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Kris Hartung <krispen.hartung@gmail.com> wrote: Anyone know why loading up Mobius in an audio track of Live 8 would crash Live? I get some window that there was a serious error, and Live shuts down. Do I need to configure Mobius in some way or fashion as a standadone before I attempt to load it in Live? Kris