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I almost hate to give my opinion on these matters because y'alls ears are so much better than mine and tend to operate on a whole different level. I had an OC2 and I found it unacceptable for even my ridiculously low standards. I hated it. I went to the nearest used equipment store to find a replacement. The salesman gave a glowing endorsement of a POG pedal built by Electro-Harmonix, who when I started in the early 80s was generally regarded as a crap brand. Apparently they really got their act together cause after a brief test I gladly paid 125 for a used EH pedal. I thought I should have had my head examine but my sound engineer (drummer) gave it another glowing endorsement and told me about it. I generally use it to lay down bass drum thumps off my banjo head. I've also used it in various occasions hooked up to my minstrel banjo. It makes a pretty good upright tone in that configuration. The "upper" octave isn't nearly as usable as the lower octave. Much like the double lower octave on the OC2 isn't too useful either. I've never tried any rack mounted octave effects. I already have a ridiculous enough banjo setup. Rack units would just be too over-the-top. Chaz Worm - singer, bass, banjo Earth, Worm, &, Fire and Electric Light Opry http://ChazWorm.com http://ELOpry.com http://HankZeppelin.com http://YouTube.com/ChazWorm On Nov 27, 2011, at 4:15 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > > > Mike Fugazzi wrote: >> From direct experience - Boss OC 2 or the octaver on my M13 work great >> for this. > > Disadvantage of the OC2 is that the sound of the dry signal > when the fx is on is very poor. > > (I never used the one I had much because in bypass > my sound was significantly degraded) > > afaik the OC2 is replaced by the OC3, which on a brief trial > didn't seem to suffer the faults of the OC2 mentioned above. > >> The EHX stuff is delayed and will kill timing your loops. > > I use the Octave Multiplexer all the time, no delay. > ...but that's on guitar. > > > > andy >