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Re: Roland GR55 - First Impressions



Where did you get it for less than $500?  I'm seeing a street price of
$700-800 without the pickup?

At $500 I'm ready to add another thing to the floor.

Kevin

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:44 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> 
wrote:
> Absolutely Bill, I should point out here that Ive been VERY VERY 
> harsh... I
> am trying to point out what I see wrong in this unit. I should also say 
> that
> there is a lot to this thing... If you left off the modelled guitar tones
> (and yes they should have) you are still left with pretty great synth..
> theyre is alot of electronica sounds here,and as I mentioned, I like them
> all... but.. there is just too much fluff! Too many things to cringe at 
> and
> move on... I wouldnt mix it with analog effects at all Bill, but I dont 
> see
> the need...
>
> You ask who is this aimed at?
> Bill, it costs less than 500 dollars... so ANYONE... 30 years ago, that 
> kind
> of money got me an amp and a fuzzbox...
> There is SHIT LOADS in this pedal... SHIT LOADS... as in Good shit and
> Bad...
>
> M
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 12:31 AM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Mark please tell us how you really feel!!!!! I appreciate your 
>> candor
>> truly , i have stayed away from this topic because Roland's commitment 
>> to
>> guitar synthesis has seemed in long steady decline and this latest 
>> addition
>> continued the disappointment . i didn't want a modeling amp i wanted a 
>> new
>> improved guitar synth with a "great" and varied synth engine that would
>> please both vintage synth and electronica guys, as well as great 
>> orchestral
>> sounds,  ethnic sounds etc.......with a real programable arpeggiator, 
>> not
>> seen sense the GR-30, which i still have tucked in to a shelf in my 
>> studio
>> room. But no,  what they delivered was part guitar synth, part modeling 
>> amp,
>> part effects processor , part looper, and i don't think it does any of 
>> those
>> things  well. As far as modeling amps go, it seems the only one worth 
>> having
>> is the Axe-fx and when I look at spending  that kind of money I start
>> thinking of  buying a new Laptop or how many cool affordable tube amps I
>> could buy, like the chinese made vox 15, it may not be point to point 
>> wired
>> like the old ones but it sounds amazing. but that's just me. One thing I
>> have not been happy about the response of with modeling amps, in 
>> addition to
>> the "something's missing" sound, is what happens when you put analog 
>> gain
>> devices in front of it like stomp box distortions. it seems like the 
>> don't
>> have the headroom to accomodate the gain and get even more harsh 
>> sounding.
>>  I can't figure out who Roland's target audience is with this device 
>> but it
>> ain't me babe, no no no it ain't me babe.  But its  also very possible
>> someone will take it, design some cool sounds with it and make some
>> interesting music with it.
>> Bill
>>
>
>
>
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>



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