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Where did you get it for less than $500? I'm seeing a street price of $700-800 without the pickup? At $500 I'm ready to add another thing to the floor. Kevin On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:44 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote: > Absolutely Bill, I should point out here that Ive been VERY VERY > harsh... I > am trying to point out what I see wrong in this unit. I should also say > that > there is a lot to this thing... If you left off the modelled guitar tones > (and yes they should have) you are still left with pretty great synth.. > theyre is alot of electronica sounds here,and as I mentioned, I like them > all... but.. there is just too much fluff! Too many things to cringe at > and > move on... I wouldnt mix it with analog effects at all Bill, but I dont > see > the need... > > You ask who is this aimed at? > Bill, it costs less than 500 dollars... so ANYONE... 30 years ago, that > kind > of money got me an amp and a fuzzbox... > There is SHIT LOADS in this pedal... SHIT LOADS... as in Good shit and > Bad... > > M > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 12:31 AM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> > wrote: >> >> Hey Mark please tell us how you really feel!!!!! I appreciate your >> candor >> truly , i have stayed away from this topic because Roland's commitment >> to >> guitar synthesis has seemed in long steady decline and this latest >> addition >> continued the disappointment . i didn't want a modeling amp i wanted a >> new >> improved guitar synth with a "great" and varied synth engine that would >> please both vintage synth and electronica guys, as well as great >> orchestral >> sounds, ethnic sounds etc.......with a real programable arpeggiator, >> not >> seen sense the GR-30, which i still have tucked in to a shelf in my >> studio >> room. But no, what they delivered was part guitar synth, part modeling >> amp, >> part effects processor , part looper, and i don't think it does any of >> those >> things well. As far as modeling amps go, it seems the only one worth >> having >> is the Axe-fx and when I look at spending that kind of money I start >> thinking of buying a new Laptop or how many cool affordable tube amps I >> could buy, like the chinese made vox 15, it may not be point to point >> wired >> like the old ones but it sounds amazing. but that's just me. One thing I >> have not been happy about the response of with modeling amps, in >> addition to >> the "something's missing" sound, is what happens when you put analog >> gain >> devices in front of it like stomp box distortions. it seems like the >> don't >> have the headroom to accomodate the gain and get even more harsh >> sounding. >> I can't figure out who Roland's target audience is with this device >> but it >> ain't me babe, no no no it ain't me babe. But its also very possible >> someone will take it, design some cool sounds with it and make some >> interesting music with it. >> Bill >> > > > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ > > -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos