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Re: steppophonic-looperformer, a hardware alternative.. perhaps (was Revisiting Ableton Live, now with Max4Live)



This Octatrack sounds really, really interesting - maybe the next purchase when I have funds... :-D

2012/1/15 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
Yes, the Octatrack is a typical "hybrid" piece of gear that can pull
this off. I also noticed that the M4L device Ricky mentioned,
Monolake's Granulator, comes with an added extension called Granulator
Input that you can slap on an audio input track to snag a slice of
your guitar tone for instant granulation and eventual mangling if
driving it by a step sequencer M4L device. (I don't really "prefer
software" by heart, just can't use gear that cost too much to bring
for concerts; ie too heavy for a economy class flight).

All this EDP style "substitute stuff" cutting and slicing kind of
mimics sequencing. An exciting area, that isn't yet much explored by
contemporary brave live loopers, is to combine instant live sampling
with pattern based sequencing. Might bring and extra "overdrive gear"
into driving the substitute stuff ;-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.youtube.com/perboysen



On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Anders Bergdahl
<anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com> wrote:
> That is a really cool idea, i have started to use my Octatrack to do ALMOST
> what you are after. I can but triggs of a sample/loop on sequencer, i can
> even live play and record the sequence, either via midi or by using the
> octatrack trigg buttons in "chromatic" mode.. Each track is monophonic BUT
> of course i could have all eight tracks doing the "steppophonic" stuff and
> thereby turning a sampled tone into a chord.. three to four track would
> probably be enough for most applications leaving the other four tracks for
> other fun stuff..
> Of course you prefer software.. but for us hardware guys the Octatrack might
> be good enough..
> My latest track involves some of youre ideas.. i started out by letting one
> track play back a sample recorded from an other track set to "loop" style
> recording. On the sequencer i but triggs out to form a 12 bar blues.. so i
> started by plying the loop track (which also have a comb filter and a
> delay.. ) until i have a nice loop, then a sample that loop to the recorder
> of the "blues" track and i have a blues pattern.. and if I want to swap it
> to a new loop i can re-record whenever i feel like it..
> Then i also have a track playing another live sample back as a baseline
> (half speed) a few minutes into the "song" i play this sample chromatically
> and then also record the playing so that I now have a new pattern on that
> track.. I use a similar technique in yet another track to do some stuttering
> and waterfall effects later in the "song"..
>
> Here is my blues..
> : http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/friday-thirteen-blues
> (12 bar blues pattern from start.. base line enter around 3.40.. plying
> that chromatically at 6 minutes, adding anther chromatic track (sampling i
> real time.. to create a strange echo or arpegiator ) at 8.20 or so.. being
> most evident at 10.30 or so where hit the keys "live" as well.. at 12
> minutes I replace all samples, eventually i mute the "blues" track.. and
> just go crazy(ier)..)
>
> (sorry but i REALLY like my Octatrack.. having a lot of fun :-) ..)
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Anders
>
>> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 19:16:51 +0100
>> Subject: Re: Revisiting Ableton Live, now with Max4Live
>> From: perboysen@gmail.com
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Ricky Graham
>> <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Check out Henke's granulator, Per. It's quite fun. You can grab audio
>> > from any track and then scrub through a buffer as you like.
>>
>>
>> Yep, that one was in the first batch I grabbed from the shared patches :-)
>> Just for fun, not needing it right now - all busy building my live
>> looping setup. If I get some free time I might try to make a better
>> version of
>> http://www.perboysen.com/steppophonic-looperformer-please-steal-this/
>> ...but so far that's "plan B priority". Got to get my usual stuff
>> going well in Live first.
>>
>> Per
>>




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Petri Lahtinen