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I too have been "checking out Frisell" for... must have been many decades now, on heartfelt recommendations from fellow musicians. Still waiting to understand the greatness. And Mark, before you totally write off all electric guitar music that has been called "jazz" you should lend an ear to John Abercrombie. Guitar is one of the most difficult instruments to tell a true story with, due to its history; It comes preloaded with other player's "canned" stories ;-)) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 8:44 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote: > Wow, with all these recommendations from all these wonderful inventive > loopers, I might have to put "checkin him out" a bit higher in my list. I > just cant imagine Micheal Karoli or Keith Levine or one of MY fave > guitarists doin a beatles tune in (a very cleverly played) obscured by > jazz > holocaust way... I love the Beatles and them tunes get played in all > manner > of awful abortions, and.. jeeeez this was close to one of the worst. > Why do Jazz versions always have to be so incredibly A) difficult and B) > Cheezy? > Of course theres good Jazz, I love some Davis and Corea and Coltrane > (Alice) > and Supersilent... but theres also BAD JAZZ--- Thats Muzak... > > Hey Richard you said Delta Blues, Jazz and Funky Music.. as if all those > things were somehow keys to "The City of Good Taste." > Whats Delta Blues...? Any old minimal scratchy recording... of a slide > guitarist gets called Delta Blues, Jazz can be anything, from good to > terrible and Funky music? Did you say Funky? Like as in Lipps Inc. – > Funky > Town or Prodigy – Funky Shit. Funky just means.. "What I like to dance > to" > Am I right? OK > > Im certainly NOT critisising this man, I already said what I liked about > this clip and Im saying up front that I know nothing about him.. But his > name crops up with such regularity on this list that I guess I have a > duty > to go off and check him out, its just that that THIS one clip wasnt the > mind-blowing experience I had expected... I suspect hes a bit like Torn > right? I have to admit that watching David Torn in one of these hundreds > of > New Jazz trios with his (oh so experimental) feedback, also does NOTHING > for > me... however, I have heard LOTS of Torn that puts him into a very > interesting place.. Splattercell for example... I hope Frissel is the > same... > > Oh and Bill, yeah sorry about the Anti Fender quip... Actually its only > Teles I dont like.. nasty crashy sound... Strats on the neck pickup or > with > that wiring fiddle thingy (Shadows sound) are awesome, (Did I type > awesome? > Yikes!) and Hendrix made 'em sound pretty decent... I guess I just have > sour > grapes, never been able to afford a "proper" guitar, a life full of > Ibanez > is gonna make a man pretty bitter I spose... > > Oh... and Ive been off work for 3 weeks with depression and stress, had > some > kind of break-down or burn-out.. so that might have made me a bit grumpy > too... > > mark > > > > On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 7:51 PM, richard sales <richard@glasswing.com> > wrote: >> >> Check out FLoratone. One of the greatest records of the past ten years. >> Like Kind Of Blue with a dash of Telecaster. Dennis Chambers on drums. >> Truly wonderful, IMHO. >> >> Frisell is not a guitar showboat. He's more of a composer. And he has >> cool roots in Delta Blues, jazz, funky music of all stripes. I'm a >> recent >> convert of his stuff. Only know a little bit. >> >> It's not the guitar playing necessarily that catches me. It's the whole >> man that comes through the music that speaks to me. The guitar is just >> the >> vehicle for the imagination of the whole man. >> >> That's different! I love 'different'. >> >> I care more about imagination than guitar chops, or even tones. And.. I >> care a lot about tones. >> >> Fender Deluxe is not my fave amp and he uses it a lot. But on Floratone >> the tones are terrific. And I've seen some live stuff that was quite >> tasty >> tonally. >> >> Haven't had time to check this (the topic's original message) clip out. >> Traveling! Will do when I get home. >> >> love the debate! >> >> Richard Sales >> Sent from my IPad >> www.glasswing.com >> >> >> On Feb 5, 2012, at 10:23 AM, Petri Lahtinen >> <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Dont want to troll here, but comparing Frisell and muzak in the same >> > sentence is just... too much. :-D >> > >> > This guy is just amazing, his playing moves me every time hear it. >> > There's this really soothing quality in the way in he plays. Thank you >> > for sharing this gig with the list. >> > Downloaded the audio immediately. >> > >> > >> > 2012/2/5 chaz worm <chaz@earthwormandfire.com>: >> >> I liked the fact that he finally at the end did one of my fav beatles >> >> songs. >> >> Up til that point I didn't care for the Muzak jazz voicings of >> >> Beatles >> >> classics. >> >> I really liked what he did with Strawberry Fields. The backwards >> >> looping was >> >> awesome. >> >> >> >> Heres a clip of my little brother utilizing my loop machine playing >> >> my >> >> favorite Beatles song. >> >> >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUKSX9ZNJdk&feature=youtube_gdata_player >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> On Feb 5, 2012, at 3:26 AM, Gareth Whittock >> >> <buddhamachine@live.co.uk> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Weirdly, I liked the tone of the guitar but didn't like what he >> >> played. >> >> >> >> >> >> Gareth Whittock, sound artist: garethwhittock.co.uk >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: mark@markfrancombe.com >> >> Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 03:14:32 +0100 >> >> Subject: Re: Bill Frisell a master at work.. some great use of >> >> looping >> >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> >> >> I know nothing about him either, and cant say I am in the slightest >> >> bit >> >> interested, but obviously a very talented musician. Whats wrong with >> >> the >> >> guitar sound? I thought his insanely accurate fingering combined with >> >> that >> >> nice neck pickup sound was lovely, there was a flick to bridge pickup >> >> on the >> >> last chard of Nowhere man that I thought was a mistake... Admittadly >> >> the >> >> sound aint that "stratty", but in my book that was a good thing... >> >> could >> >> have been worse tho, could have been a tele... >> >> >> >> :-) >> >> >> >> >> >> M >> >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> I'm not an expert regarding this musician's work. Do you guys think >> >> Frisell himself likes that guitar sound he was playing on? Or maybe >> >> he >> >> just cares more about the playing? >> >> >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> >> >> Per Boysen >> >> www.perboysen.com >> >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com> >> >> wrote: >> >>> My guess had been some form of Line6 looper based on the clicks. >> >>> >> >>> Mark >> >>> >> >>> On Feb 4, 2012, at 11:20 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> It sounded like the freeze pedal and a a looper that does revers >> >>>> and >> >>>> double speed (he used no other intervals beside the octave). Maybe >> >>>> a >> >>>> Rang or DL4? If he used an EDP he might one would have expected to >> >>>> hear some wider "manglement". >> >>>> >> >>>> Greetings from Sweden >> >>>> >> >>>> Per Boysen >> >>>> www.perboysen.com >> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>>> Do we know what pedals he is using? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Mark >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Feb 4, 2012, at 8:46 AM, Teddy Kumpel wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> he loves the freeze pedal >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Teddy >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Feb 4, 2012, at 10:10 AM, Anders Bergdahl wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> http://www.npr.org/event/music/146156479/bill-frisell-tiny-desk-concert >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Mark Francombe >> >> www.markfrancombe.com >> >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> >> http://www.looop.no >> >> twitter @markfrancombe >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Petri >> > >> > > > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ >