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Interesting discussion and perspectives, so great to know your opinions. mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> ha scritto: > Have to say it... although learning to play music is better "in situ"... > while actually playing it, either with friends or with a personal > mentor.. gotta be... no denying it... > ...I don't think anyone should be advising people to "not take an > education". Mark said exactly what I was thinking about it. I'm a classical trained pianist. My mother started educating me when I was 8 years old and I remember how difficult it was. When i was able to play piano with both hands I started having fun and after a while I quitted my mother's lessons. A few years later I asked her for a professional teacher. At the beginning it was a pain in the ass, because I had to start from the beginning, one finger at time....I hate her.. But later - after 2 years of disciplined study - I understood that she was correcting some mistakes I wasn't aware of. From that moment, ALL changed. I started loved her approach: she opened me a new world and later she asked me to play for her my own (simple) compositions...then she asked me to listen the music I was listen to: Keith Jarret, Paco de Lucia, king crimson and others...We started to go together to some non accademical gigs...what fabolous time I had with her (she was 65 years old and I was 18-19...) The story ended a few years later, when I was graduating in law and I had to go for the 8* year of classical piano exam..it was too much for me and I had to decide 1 path for my life. I suffered for my decision to quit piano lessons, but today when I talk to pro musicians they often tell me they feel like prostitutes, 'cos they have to play every kind of music just to survive, while I feel free to exprees myself as I like In those years I studied and loved J.S. Bach and many others classical composers, and at the same time I was learning jazz harmonies, playing with bands and making music each minute of my spare time (as I still do). I acquired a big knowledge about music (from pop to avant-gard) and today I'm grateful that I got ALL of that, because I had both an accademical education and "practice". I have played with many bands, many different musical genres and sometimes (rarely I'd say) I found someone who was very talented and gifted who was able to play beautifully without knowing NOTHING about theory, chords and harmony. But in my experience those guys were an exception (or better: exceptionally gifted musicians); the majority of those who played music as self-taught musicians had always trouble if they were asked to play something they haven't tried before. And sometimes I had trouble to make them understand some BASICS building a song. You have to educate your fingers, your mind and your emotions: music requires not only taste, but mind too. As Schönberg wrote, the idea that music is just a matter of ispiration is false and I heard the same concept from Paco De Lucia (...do you know what I mean ?) That's why I think accademical studies are so important That's clearly MY experience. The reality is so wide...I surely don't have the truth. Thanks all for sharing your toughts and experiences -Fabio www.eterogeneo.com