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Re: Per and Erdem in Paris



On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 12:17 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> 
wrote:
> One thing Per, I noticed in your setup that you described to Chris for 
> the
> Istanbul show (guessing it was quite simerlar) that you are using the 
> GR55
> as a foot controller. Im very interested in the nitty gritty of that. Can
> you tell me, what controller are you using to actully loop in Mobius 
> with?
> Is it all on the Faderfox?

Well, actually I didn't have yet have the GR-55 by the time we did
that Paris gig. I played no synths at all, only the Stick/flute sound
through Logic's/Mainstage's effects. The pedal controller I was using
is my Gordius LG and for Paris extended with two expression pedals.
None of us did any audio looping per se. I had a system of eight Tape
Delay (Logic/Mainstage) plugins on the eight surround channels that
could freeze one and a half bar of audio, but I never used it.
However, what I did a lot and that might sound as "looping" was the
freeze-reverb routing. I have one such on each Stick fretboard output,
each one controlled by an expression pedal that also doubles up as a
volume pedal. This is good when using the flute mic because when
freezing audio in the reverb the input is closed so that no stage
noise will leak into the loop (yes, technically speaking it is a loop
but only a few milliseconds long. For that I use the plugin EchoBoy
from SoundToys - have tried everything else I know of and only this
plugin gives the frozen sound cloud I want).

As for "bit crushing" I don't use that at all and will probably never
do. I just don't like the sound of that effect. The "distortion" I use
on the STick is not really distortion, it is an audio-to-synth-wave
envelope tracking plugin from Expert Sleepers called Oomingmak. At the
Cologne Loopfest Os told me this is their least selling product and
that really amazes me when thinking about its sonic capabilities.

So much for that Paris gig video. For the Istanbul concert I had
finally acquired a GR-55 and I skipped over bringing the Gordius to
use only the GR-55 pedal to control the freeze-reverb and other
software effects. In Istanbul I did some live looping in Mobius but
controlled that all from the Faderfox LV3 minimal hand mixer. With
Ableton Live - as we were using this in Istanbul - you can also set up
laptop key commands to control almost everything and that too
minimizes the need for control pedals.


On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Anders Bergdahl
<anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Per do you ever perform closer to home?

Nothing booked at the moment. Except for this music camp the week
before midsummer:
http://www.blekingejazzandworld.se/Blekinge_Jazz_%26_World/Start.html
But that's not a regular gig since I'll be teaching live looping. It's
more like a week of constant jamming and chatting through a series of
workshops. Very inexpensive and great fun that I can recommend. One
year we even had an attender coming up from Germany with backpack and
squeezebox ;-)

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.youtube.com/perboysen



On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 12:17 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> 
wrote:
> I have to just comment on this clip from Per and Erdem in Paris.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=6DWezuFTdgE
>
> Its astounding!
> I quite simply would have paid to fly to Paris to see this in the 
> octophonic
> version if I had known.
> I have their SubCity album, but I must say, Im not a huge fan of 
> listening
> to recorded abstract music, although it might be my favorite genre of 
> music
> to hear played live. (abstract... god terrible word, I kind of include 
> this
> in improv, but as I know this gig was based on SunCity (or the other way
> round) I cant really call it Improv).
> Although quite different musicians, both Erdem and Per share one 
> important
> quality... and thats .. er... quality. Both in terms of timbre and taste.
> Firstly their tone or  timbre is very distorted and warped 
> electronically, I
> hear bit crushich and ring modulations and granulations in both of their
> sounds, but amazingly (and something I find very hard to achieve) their
> audio quality is very clean, almost antiseptic, very digital and precise.
> There is no hiss or grunge or sludge or muffled tones at all, its all
> crystal clear.
> Im sure Per would put this down to being all in the digital domain. Even
> though my set-up is almost a hardware version of Pers set-u, mine is 
> plagued
> by cables and hiss and hums and distortion and level issues and impedance
> problems. I'm afraid I'm too attached to my boxes to change, but if 
> someone
> were to persuade me, it would be Per.
>
> As for quality of taste, they know that its important to take your time,
> although they slip into some toe-tapping beats once or twice, with 
> abstract
> electronic music I always feel its important to be aware of pace, for the
> user to accept that "this is it" and not think that its some kind of 
> drawn
> out intro. When accepted, this music shines and I see it more like 
> classical
> music, carefully composed and completely clear of ego and pomp.
> Pers flute is theonly thing that, doesnt quit "fit" into teh sound 
> picture,
> it has a slightly retro feel to it, reminding one of previous 
> experimental
> uses of the instrument, like Kraftwerk, Gong or dare I say... Jethro 
> Tull??
> The references are a bit too much for me, a bit too er... ethnic...  but 
> you
> know.. musically I have to say it still fits wonderfully. It actually is 
> the
> instrument that brings in the most techno part of the perfomance, the 
> loping
> (not looping... look it up!!)  2 step beat. I suppose when an instrument 
> has
> a particular reference for you, its impossible not to think of it... 
> Almost
> like if Erdem suddenly whipped out a Didgeridoo, or Per some Bagpipes. 
> (Now
> tell me, that someone DIDNT just think of a rainbow jumper and 
> dreadlocks,
> and a guy in a kilt???)
>
> One thing Per, I noticed in your setup that you described to Chris for 
> the
> Istanbul show (guessing it was quite simerlar) that you are using the 
> GR55
> as a foot controller. Im very interested in the nitty gritty of that. Can
> you tell me, what controller are you using to actully loop in Mobius 
> with?
> Is it all on the Faderfox? If you are considering the iPhone route, you
> should really think about the Missing Link. Iknow your thinking about 
> using
> it to change parameters on the Laptop, but I have made a very simple 
> iTouch
> interface for the CCs sent externally to the GR55. So you can have hand
> control of all those lovely parameters.
>
> Its here http://www.markfrancombe.com/plugis/GR30ASSIGNS2.touchosc if you
> want it
> This all it is...
> https://img.skitch.com/20120226-b4889dnwfdh5hi4xg9a3dg4gwy.jpg
> simple but very very useful
>
> Per and Erdem, please give me at least 3 months notice of your next gig
> together, I'll need to save up for an air ticket!
>
>
>
> --
> Mark Francombe
> www.markfrancombe.com
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>