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A source of amusement for me is that every few months, a discussion comes up on this list along the lines of "what are the features you think no looper should be without". Within a few emails, we have specs for a looper that has so many necessary "basic features" that it would cost more than $1,000, and would be very complex to operate. In the end, I think I like the idea of creating one line of devices for simpletons like myself, who mostly want a long looping time, feedback control, reverse/half speed and a simple, intuitive interface. If you gave me the ability to pitch bend the loop like a tape machine, and I'll be as happy as a pig in shit. (Perhaps even happier.) Then one could create a second line of devices for the feature hounds. That could have the multiplies, divides, midi syncs, multiple loops, undo, fraction replaces, etc for the folks who want all the bells and whistles. -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com