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thanks Per, hmmmm, I wonder what that first one sounds like. I've tried that but it always seemed like a lot of button pushing while playing with questionable groove results. Do you have any examples of that approach? Any groove/funk/soul music people out there who wanna chime in? I'm not really interested in how the ambient/surround sound people do it. Teddy On Apr 1, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Hi Teddy, > > I frequently play with live looping in a band situation and use two > main approaches: > > 1) LOOPER AS TEMPO MASTER - NO SYNC > Even though my looper allows several parallel loops of different > length I do not sync it to anything. Nor do I send a click to the > drummer. What I do is to make sure I always have immediate acces to a > foot switch that instantly retriggers all loops from the top. I do run > effects that tempo sync to the looper and use the good old EDP action > to set a new tempo when needed: delete everything and start a new loop > at the new tempo. This approach is good for free playing where you > need to be as adaptable as possible. If the drummer doesn't follow > your loop you can just make your loop follow the drummer etc. This > approach is great fun for stream-of-consciousness gigs. > > 2) LOOPER AS TEMPO SLAVE - SYNC > Myslef, my loopers/effects and everyone else in the band play at a pre > defined tempo. Some parts may be pre recorded to run as backing tracks > or to be triggered in sync by any of the players. This works well for > me when doing surround sound concerts. Tempos of songs will be running > even if you don't play. If needing to get the tempo to start with you > can either look at a visual cue, make some noise into a tempo synced > delay effect or simply just step on Record and make a non-rhythmic one > bar loop (add some SUS Substitute points if needing a finer resolution > "click"). Example: http://youtu.be/GawvbfwHgRE > > I've used these two approaches all the way back since the old > EDP/Repeater Rack days until today's all-in-the-box laptop rig gigs. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Teddy Kumpel <teddykumpel@mac.com> wrote: >> As I read all the posts on this list I'm starting to wonder.... Is >> everyone here a solo artist? >> >> Does anyone use loops in a band context? >> >> If so, how? What are using? Do you only make ambient loops in the band, >> or do you play rhythms? >> If you play rhythms and there's a drummer how do you get locked up with >> the drummer. >> >> I have my own solution, I've been doing it for 4 years now and I'm >> happy with the results... I'm just wondering what other people do. >> >> thanks for chiming in >> Teddy >> >