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--On 04 April 2012 19:43 +0200 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Bill, This is a plugin I've been searching for for years! Damn all shortsighted developers and manufacturers that don't do proper market research!!! We guitarists know too well the old Auto Swell effect box. The only good one I have found in the software world comes as part of IK Multimedia's Amplitube 3 and is named "Swell". It allows you to run it un-synced or synced to the host tempo. Synced is nice because you can set it to swell the attack envelope by an 8th note, halfnote or whatever musical duration that fits the song. And this follows the tempo as we usually do with that STratocaster knob under the right hand's pinky or the volume pedal under the foot. In Logic/Mainstage there is a plugin called Enveloper that kind of does this in a mixing situation of already recorded files, but it doesn't go longer than a very short duration... probably somewhere around a 64the note. Sucks. However, Enveloper is great to make a squeeze box smack ears like a house piano, minimize or emphasize an already recorded reverb etc etc. In Ableton Live I have managed to cheat an Auto Swell effect by using an input envelope follow Max for Live device, delay its attack by a ramp up curve and assign it to control a volume plugin or a track volume fader further down the signal chain. Fiddly and not by far as good sounding as that simple "Swell" thing that comes with Amplitube 3 though. However: In the software world poor man's auto swell can be a filter bank plugin! Logic/Mainstage has something called AutoFilter that works almost satisfactory, but not all the way. I get a little better attack smothing from the PSP plugin N02. Very short attack smoothing but, not even a 16 note's envelope, but good and musical sounding. It is a preset called "Envelope Filter". Wait a minute.. maybe I should go into that plugin (cause it is kind of "programmable") and see if I can make the attack time longer... goddammit, why haven't I thought about that? Checking it out now while typing and YES that is possible. The good sounding preset I've been using sports a 10 ms attack slope but I'm able to type in maximally 1000 ms there. I'm finding here that 404 ms attack is cool with 28 ms release and sensibility 11 dB. Playing a new note from silence makes it swell in, with a little touch of the filter, making it sound a bit "moogish", but if you play fast legato runs the release time will not bring down the filter and there is no change to the sound. Pretty optimal. Very nice and I will use this a lot, but I'm still looking for this thing without the filters: just a plain volume ADSR. Thank you Bill. Hope you too will find happiness in the plugin jungle :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:50 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:Does any one make an ADSR plugin that can be applied in real time, ie used during loop creation while recording, as apposed to just working as a post production App? if its tied to a delay algorithm that would be cool, and perhaps I already have one, as i was recently given a mass of plug ins I haven't gone through yet. To that end I'm talking right now to the designer of the great floor compressor I use, the OWA 1960, about building a true ADSR in to a stomp box pedal, as nobody has done such a thing in a pedal format, that really works well, as does all four phases of ADSR. I'm surprised Moog hasn't done a mooger fooger ADSR, but then again, I wouldn't have the real estate on my pedal board for something that big, not to mention the $. Those of you who have heard my music know that i rely heavily on the Auto- volume Echo on line 6 M series processors to achieve a volume pedal swell, as apposed to using a strait volume pedal, which is also something i do, but i need the auto volume effect because all of the loop tasking and real time effects control I'm doing with my feet. Thanks Bill http://www.youtube.com/user/BillWalkerGuitar