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Per, playing to a click! Woah. I never thought I would read that statement. It does like a good idea though to make yourself work in a new way. Thanks for the reports. I've been doing a bunch of experimenting with my looping setup lately(In Mainstage as well) so I will definitely give Live a solid test run again. -------------------- Todd Matthews toddbass.com twitter: gtodd876 On Apr 14, 2012, at 5:17 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Hi, > > I just want to report on my happiness and frustration with using > Ableton Live as my looper host. On the happy side is that I'm finding > Live 8.3 way more CPU efficient than my other two usual host > applications Plogue Bidule and Mainstage. The dark side is that Live > is no good when slaved by MIDI Clock to a hosted looper plugin. This > setup causes regular audio dropouts. That's not fun since I'm a big > fan of "trash-looping" where you instantly delete and rebuild the loop > during a performance, resulting in constant tempo changes. I've done > many tests and it just doesn't work in Live. So I'm now trying to > learn how to adapt to the click and still stay creative with my > looping. But there are other goodies in Live - one important fun > factor is that you can bring in sequencing and set up random scripted > slicing of canned loops playback along with the live looping. And the > option to record multiple channels at 24/48 suits me fine (Bidule can > do that too). Thanks to Max For Live I found a good tuner plugin as > well, which comes in handy with a 12 stringed instrument :-) and I > have also discovered that Live's own "Amp and Cabinet" plugin sounds > ok for Stick and guitar. Not as good to my ears as the Amp Designer in > Mainstage and not as good as Amplitube 3 but in the recent version > Amplitube 3 tends to crash host applications or render saved documents > corrupt. > > Bottom line is I'm happy with Live now. > > I'm also fine with saving the wildest sessions for Mainstage. > Mainstage is less CPU efficient but as long as you stay under the red > zone it works flawlessly as a slave, MIDI Clock synced host > application for a looper. You can just trash everything in Mobius and > start a new loop while the music is going and Mainstage smoothly > adapts to the new tempo without an audio glitch while you hear all > delays and termolo stuff slowing/speeding into the new tempo. Very > cool. I will miss that in Live. Live may become my suit-and-tie-job > host app and Mainstage my party-on host ;-)) Nothing bad in that, as > long as you are aware about it. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >