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Right. When you use MIDI mapping in Live the plugin doesn't receive MIDI at all, it just sees changes to the parameter values. If EchoLoop is exposing a VST parameter for each function and you associate this parameter with a MIDI note, Live treats this as a toggle switch. The first note on/off will set the parameter to it's highest value and the second note on/off will set it to it's lowest value. I would imagine EchoLoop is expecting to see parameter >0 mean "down" and parameter 0 mean "up". If so then unless you press the MIDI switch twice quickly you will get long-press behavior. Jeff On 5/18/12 12:35 PM, "andy butler" <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >Kris Hartung wrote: > >> Actually using the MIDI Mapping on Live could potentially work fine. > > >I don't think it passes midi Note-Off to the plugin. > > >andy > >