Re: things not going so well at the Conference

[richard sales <richard@glasswing.com>]

I suspect in part it's because it's June and folks wanna be outside, at festivals, doing gardening, riding bikes, emerging from the dark eggshell of winter.  

My wife does a community dancing event (Dances of Universal Peace) that has great attendance all fall/winter but, once the weather gets nice, it drops off and ultimately dwindles to zip.  Took her a frustrating while to figure out the indoor outdoor thing.  

I would guess it's like any magic hat!  You have to tinker with it for a while before the rabbit emerges. 

Improve the promo.  Get word out sooner and talk it up, exchange ideas with the old hand loopers.  Engage them.

Do it at the right time of year.

Be a promoter.

It's a community event.   

Never give up.

Now, I've tried a few of these phone things.  One where one of my favorite poets was talking.  It was a snore fest, and I love him to bits (Wendell Berry).  Too formal, not enough flesh face time for me.

If it was me, I'd reconsider the format.  Talk w some of these tech savvy loopies and pick their brains for a more live feeling, engaging event.  Maybe with video?  A multi user Skype event?  Is there such a thing?  I don't know.  

This is an opportunity for you to learn.  Don't give up, young Edison.  The lightbulb's just around the corner!

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On Jun 3, 2012, at 5:13 PM, Jim Goodin wrote:

Geminii!  That's tad cold.  I do think that Rainer made some great points and he like I has done a great deal of live webcasts which though not same, do utilize same ideas, needs.

Honestly I did not see this just as we all get together to talk about looping being something anyone would be all that excited about.  I like many have attending several years of the loopfests which though are in person, do kinder that spirit of exchange which is something I thinker Tyler hoped for.  I don't know how long you have been around this community, I don't know you Tyler, maybe you have been here a while but I think for something as you hoped you really Ned to know the community and to offer things Rainer talked about.

Rick I bet you have some thoughts, so e light to shed on this?

Jim

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On Jun 3, 2012, at 7:36 PM, Elmer Fuddski <jakebrakesrule@yahoo.com> wrote:

Then, after following the professor's sage advice, you may have as many as FOUR people attending! :)

From: Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com>
To: Looper's Delight Mailing List <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: things not going so well at the Conference

Tyler schrieb:
> So far, I logged into the conference, and for a long time, no one was there. Mark had a bad connection, so he couldn't stay. Todd Reynolds stayed awhile, and now there's no one left. What did I do wrong?
> Tyler Z
> 
Maybe nobody knew what to expect, and thus prioritized accordingly? (I know it was that in my case).

More specifically:
I personally didn't attend, because I preferred to visit my home town and meet with friends instead. Something I could have done any other weekend, of course.
Your event seemed to me (and sorry if I misunderstood this completely, but maybe some others did as well) that you provided a platform (the conference call service) at a specific time and then asked us to provide our spare time and do looping stuff.

On that level of detail, it's really hard to judge what to expect and thus, to trade that off with other means I could spend my time with.
Things would have been different if there had been some kind of agenda and maybe some confirmed panelists, so e.g.:

Think about some more specific agenda items, and then get people to agree to do something in the conference, which will in turn draw more participants.
Say, part 1 would be "getting the maximum out of simple loopers", and then people like Rick Walker or Matt Davignon who simply start demonstrating their secret tricks. Other participants may then ask questions, or offer their own suggestions. Or, if the other participants are shy at first, let the two "panelists" simply start a discussion, encouraging the others to chime in. This would have worked to fill some 45 minutes.
Do one or two more of those blocks. Then end the thing with an "open mic" round of performances, with 10 minutes for each one, with two confirmed performers, and then others can perform, and after each performance, you do a Q&A/discussion round on the performance.

That way, someone reading about it would know what to expect. He would get info on some specific topics, as well as the possibility to ask questions to some accomplished artists as well as other participants. He would get to listen to some short performance, and get a chance to do one himself and get valuable feedback on it.

Just my .02

            Rainer

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