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Freight! There's an idea! Hadn't thought of that. Many thanks to all of you! --- On Mon, 8/6/12, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> wrote: > From: Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> > Subject: Re: Flying with a guitar... or not > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, August 6, 2012, 1:24 PM > If it is very very valuable and I > absolutely must travel with it, (say, a vintage guitar) I > freight it rather than handing it over the > airline. This allows me to use larger shock > mount road cases and purchase adequate > insurance. In fact, beyond the airlines > baggage weight limit, its actually cheaper to freight the > equipment than check it as baggage. > > In other cases, I have actually just bought a seat for the > guitar. Expensive but cheaper than > heartbreak. > > > Daniel > On Aug 6, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Torben Scharling wrote: > > > I had a broken key on a Novation Remote midi keyboard, > that was in it's factory box, after a flight from > Montpellier to Copenhagen (top big for carry-on. When I > bought my handmade bass in the US, I had it in it's molded > hardcase flightcase. The case was then covered in blankets, > and put in a big cardboard box, that I tied some gaffers > tape around, and made a handle out of a rope. Nothing > happened. So I guess I concur, that a molded flightcase > (molded to the body of the guitar) + whatever additional > precautions and extra padding you'd like, is a good start. > > > > I am however a bit frightened now, after these stories. > If I'm able to gather the dough in time, I'll also be > performing in Santa Cruz.. Buy very unsure which > instruments, and what gear to bring with me. Kinda stupid > that we'll be several people bringing the same controllers, > expression pedals, loopers, mics, cables, electric guitars, > etc. etc. and coming from overseas, that's gonna be a > hassle. Anyway still early for all that planning, but > thought I'd mention it already :) > > > > > > On 05/08/2012, at 14.53, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com > wrote: > > > >> Over the last few years, I've had a good deal of > equipment damage/mishandling by airlines. I think part > of the problem is that the TSA ALWAYS opens my luggage and > they don't repack it carefully. > >> > >> The last straw was a flight to Ashville, NC, in > 2010. I had worked out my packing so that I could fit > my theremin (an irreplaceble and valuable Etherwave Pro) > into my carry on suitcase. However, the plane was a > small jet and I had to leave the suitcase at the end of the > jetway to be "packed" in the baggage compartment. I > took my seat and watched the baggage handler grab my > suitcase, swing it over his head and slam it down on the > cart. At that very moment, I decided that "This is > it. Never again. This is bullshit!". > >> > >> It hurt. Perhaps the baggage handler was just > thoughtless and meant no malice. However, I didn't > feel like a "valued customer" that day. I mean, good > grief -- he was handling carry-on luggage. Did the > dumbass ever ask himself, "Why do people carry-on > luggage?" Duhh -- perhaps it is because the stuff is > fragile or expensive. > >> > >> And since then, my policy is that if I can't drive > or fly myself (I fly light airplanes) then I don't play the > gig. It is not like I make enough money to compensate > for the risk. > >> > >> Incidentally, I played in Asheville last May and > made the trip via Cessna. > >> > >> I'd enjoy playing in Santa Cruz again however my > future trips will likely be without equipment so I'd just > attend without playing. My light airplane just isn't > equipped to fly over the Rocky mountains and from Kansas > City to Santa Cruz would be a nearly a three-day drive > (one-way). > >> > >> To fly via airlines used to be pretty easy and > pleasant. Now it is a supreme hassle. And -- on > most airlines one has to pay extra for the privilege of > having one's luggage abused. > >> > >> As you can tell, the subject of airline flyhing > with instruments is a sensitive one. Don't get me > started .... :) > >> > >> -- Kevin > >> > >> Quoting Ed Durbrow <edurbrow@sea.plala.or.jp>: > >> > >>> There is always risk, of course, but why don't > you wrap it in bubble wrap, put cardboard around that, then > more bubble wrap, then more cardboard etc. until it is as > big as allowed. Also make sure the guitar can't move in a > direction inside the case that could break the headstock, > for example. Then demand/plead to have it hand carried onto > the plane. I would investigate different airline's > reputations. I brought back a very delicate Baroque guitar > to Japan in April and it ended up being hand carried. That > way it doesn't come through the machines at the luggage > carousels. > >>> > >>> On Aug 5, 2012, at 11:55 AM, Tim Mungenast > wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi Gang! > >>>> > >>>> I am deeply honored to be able to play this > year's festival. One thing that keeps me awake, though, > besides performance anxiety, is something even more horrible > than modern air travel: modern air travel with a guitar. Out > of all my guitars, I cannot think of a single one that I > would willingly risk to careless or felonious baggage > handlers or overzealous members of the Security Industrial > Complex. Sneaking a few pedals into my onboard bag should be > easy, but the guitar is a much bigger deal. > >>>> > >>>> Therefore I think I'd be best served by a > guitar that will fit onboard and be playable but not > something I'll get all sentimental over. Should I just look > for a vintage Hondo II Chiquita (ka-ching!$) or an Erlewine > Lazer (ka-ching again!)? I've been told that even those > Hohner Steinberger copies are getting pricey. Maybe one of > those novelty mini-strats? Any ideas would most welcome and > greatly appreciated. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> Ed Durbrow > >>> Saitama, Japan > >>> http://www.youtube.com/user/edurbrow?feature=watch > >>> http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ > >>> edurbrow@sea.plala.or.jp > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > >