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Great tech thread, Mark! This was one of my biggest challenges back when I used an EDP as the sync master. Luckily the Repeater, I was syncing to the EDP MIDI clock output, seemed to hook up with a division of the tempo when the EDP offered a too fast tempo (as when you want to go glitchy and start the EDP session at a very short "8th note"). But drum machine and delays went totally nuts. Today I use Mobius as the tempo master looper and totally rely on its global preferences setting for Maximum/Minimum Tempo. That way the looper will divide or multiply the tempo with two and send out an appropriate tempo signal within the set tempo range. That is something I wished for even back in the EDP days. Can't think about a better solution, really. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 9:11 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote: > My personal discovery of how EDP (and therfore Echoloop) is handling > memory > and undo, has made me think about an old issue. Therefore new thread > name. > > Im wondering a bit now how people handle the difference between the 8th > note > (as its called on EDP) or subcycle (as its called on Mobius and Echoloop) > settings in relation to how they affect the midi clock output. > > When running other external gear, and using the looper as the clock > master, > the 8th note quantize setting will affect your external gear. > > Now some boxes are clever, my fireworx used to be, and the GR55 is > clever, > adjusting its echos and other synched effects correctly. to the nearest > sensible division. I DOUBT you will find a drum machine that does this. > > I personally get around this by having 2 EDPs... one of them only is > sending > synch to the other devices and I have it set to 8th, and never do short > things on it... the other brother synched EDP, I routinely flip around > the > 8th setting to what ever I need, 8 for musical, 64 for glitchy. > > Internally on a laptop system I guessing hosts like Bidule have some > er... > bidules that can multiply and divide the midi clock, but what in > hardware? > Is there a box on the market, that cleverly analyses the midi clock in, > and > then translates it into a sensible clock speed, like forcing between 60 > and > 180 bpm? > > Or? What other tricks are there? > > Is this something that the designers of Evoloop might consider, having 2 > different settings for midi clock output multiple and quantize setting > multiple? > > Mark > > > > On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 4:50 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> > wrote: >> >> Its all possible on the EDP, but not practical how you describe... >> I find it hard enough to close a multiply exactly on 32 cycles, what if >> it >> took 128 cycles PER musical bar... not possible. >> I have these "smooth moves" programmed on my drum machine, and can run >> certain patterns (bit like scripts on Mobius) when I need'em, but its >> not >> nice... > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ >