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Hello! I don't know if anyone has ever paid attention to this, but have you seen how many people have gotten away with swear words on this forum? I remember when we were having a thread about why loopers-delight.com was so out-of-date, but the forum part was as lively as heck. Someone used the F word "Why does everything have to be so f***ing up-to-date?" (I censored the word out so I don't have a bad track-record on this mailing list). And I read the help file (the one that you see when you send an invalid command to the subscription server), and even THAT file had some (yet very mild) language toward the end. Now, I've seen bad language in forums, and if I would have signed up five years ago, I would be long gone by now; I'm less sensitive. But this site is where musicians can communicate with each other, and talk about electronic music technology, share links, write articles about their technology ... but randomly putting the F word in the middle of an article about Mobius? I'm confused! In the days of Kim, would he get upset when someone used a word like that? Tyler Z