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Re: OT: Vocoders...

Not the ones you did mention, but:

1.  The Zoom 1201 has a proper Vocoder (albeit with very few tweaking options), and it's dead cheap. Rick Walker uses one as his secret niceprice weapon (and has removed the description on the knobs in front so it becomes an aleatoric machine ;)
2. I'm repeating myself here, but the Nord Modular series also has a nice (and highly configurable) vocoder.

Thanks for that Czukay recommendation, and I need to try that "carrier/analyze with delay in between" trick. What do you use it on? Melodies, drums, whole mixes? (Well then again, I can find out myself ;)

            Rainer

>I'm researching Vocoders(not plugins)