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> IDM "How to kill your darlings" A lot of the success in IDM producing has to do with finding ways to break free from your own limitations. If you just listen and play along "like a musician" your playing will be based on how you are used to play; your finger's muscle memory and music you have heard and liked. Right now I remembered this interview with Deadmau5: His trick for transcending this limitation is to jam like crazy and record everything. He plays anything, drum machine, analog synths, sequences them while going wild on their filters, waveform controls etc. Then he stuffs away all instruments and brings the recorded stereo files into a computer to cut out pieces that he think sounds fun. Sometimes a number of snippets can be put together into a new IDM compositions and sometimes he adds additional stuff on top of that. Working with Mobius can be done in the same method as in the Deadmau5 example. Set up some super wild scripts, apply them to your audio input (your playing?) while having Mobius snag a full performance stereo file of the main output. When you're done, remember to Save Project before turning off Mobius so you will also get all loops you created in the frenzy, neatly presented on the disc in folders named after track number and loop number. Finally, number three: remember to take note of the Mobius tempo in case you will splice snippets together in a DAW with option of tempo synced effects. Quite often when I have used this method I have found, to my surprise, that the best music comes out when I don't use much at all from the performance recording (my playing) but rather stick together parts of the separate loops. Here's a sounding example of such a Mobius IDM thing where no original input signal was kept, just the looped material: http://perboysen.bandcamp.com/track/slip-out-of-it-2 Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen