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Some non tech tips: A very good thing to learn is to make one loop and then keep changing it in a way that you create music that evolves in a flow that makes it interesting to listen to. The shorter the loop the easier it is to change it quickly enough. Never become boring! Rather make a less planned quick change than just stay inactive while your music approaches the dangerous "boring-zone". An important aspect is to balance the two musical lines: the line you are performing with your audio input and the line you are creating in the looper (partially derived from your audio input). Two lines is well enough for highly interesting music to occur, you may for example create a "questions and answers game" between the two lines. Just one idea, there are several others. Just do not record and keep playing over the recording, that's a one way ticked to the boredom-zone. Try to tell a story with looping instead of building a piece in the looper. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Sergio Girardi <simpliflying@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I need your feedback and experience, suggestions etc, about something I > am > seeing in my rehearsals. > Two things I notice. > First, it's very difficult for me to create a method for > learning/rehearsing, and follow it with discipline without falling in the > temptation of wanting "results". > So I never understand if I must be creative in my learning process, or > if I > must be patient and methodic. > You know, you want to learn guitar or drums, you must accept that you > will > have to repeat and repeat beats, chords, training, boring things, and if > you > try immediately just to play things, you will not learn well. > This is what I was told. > What do you think? > In my case, I am learning just the looping itself, and the loopers. I > play > no instrument, I sing and beatbox, and then use synths. > > Second, I notice that when I rehears I tend to search for a "final > result", > as if I am composing a theme with Cubase, something finished, a > composition > which must be all there in the looper. And so I lose myself because to do > this I need lot of tracks and separate loops and patterns and change of > patterns, or I have something boring and static. > But at same time this happens while I am supposedly training for live > looping performances where I will mostly improvise! So this is confusing > me. > And I guess that this can also be part of why I was so concerned about > the > undo/redo thing in the Octatrack. I mean, maybe if I just train with the > intention and attitude of a live improvised music performance, where not > all > stays in the looper, you just loop some things, and above them you play > real > time, solo, not looped parts. > I suppose that this may be happening because I am not so good musician > so I > try to give to the machine as many responsabilities as possible and to > avoid > me doing things in real time. But if all is looped, it is quite, > circular, > boring. > > What can you suggest me to avoid this, and be able to be more effective > in > my learning process rehearsing at home? > > Thanks!!! > > Ser