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I don't do drums much, but when I do, I like using EZDrummer with my SR16 or Yamaha DD50 to trigger. I quantize a lot since I pretty much just suck at drumming. On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Steven Clements <sdclements@gmail.com> wrote: > You can also bring in other drumming bits from folks like > http://www.oddgrooves.com/ > > He has some very affordable drum patterns you can build on or use > straight > out of the gate. > > These are mapped to work with Superior Drummer and a few others. > > Monthly free patterns as well. > > Nothing sounds as real as real drumming, I also use the sounds in > Superior > Drummer and trigger it from the drumKat - instant vibe > > Steve > > > > > On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Todd Elliott <toddbert@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Seconding this. I don't use realistic drum sounds at all, but all the >> folk >> I know who *do* care about such things use Toontrack's stuff. Sounds >> great. >> >> T >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Steven Clements <sdclements@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> I recommend Toontracks Superior Drummer. >>> >>> There's lots you can do for realistic sounding drums and you can even >>> use >>> their midi drum beats as a start. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> You're right that it is "endlessly time consuming" to fake a live >>>> drummer. Learning to do the programming right is only step one, then >>>> you need to set the sound right and mix it dynamically. Oh man, what >>>> time consuming activities! I'm wondering why so many people put so >>>> much time into faking something when there are loads of other just as >>>> cool drumming approaches? Just imagine a crappy 505 or 606 with edgy >>>> sound attitude! About a thousand times as easy to make good than >>>> faking a live drummer. >>>> >>>> Greetings from Sweden >>>> >>>> Per Boysen >>>> www.perboysen.com >>>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote: >>>> > Hi folks >>>> > >>>> > I'd like to lay down somewhat realistic acoustic drums for song >>>> > writing purposes (pop ballads, funk, latin, world) in home recording >>>> > environment. >>>> > Currently, I program drums in Logic Pro. I also have an acoustic >>>> > drum >>>> > set at work where I can play basic drum grooves that reasonably ok. >>>> > However, I don't have a good sounding kit and have no experience >>>> > whatsoever with drum micing. >>>> > >>>> > My current approach is basically similar to this: >>>> > http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep10/articles/drum-prog.htm >>>> > First, I lay down basic patterns in Logic Ultrabeat. Then, I tweak >>>> > the >>>> > timing in piano roll. Last - and this is the most time consuming >>>> > part - I >>>> > tweak velocities, create ghost notes, rolls in HyperEdit mode. >>>> > >>>> > How should I proceed next? >>>> > My current thoughts: >>>> > >>>> > A. >>>> > Get a real hi-hat machine + snare, set them up with mics. (e-drum >>>> > cymbals never sound realistic enough for me, don't like snares on >>>> > e-drums >>>> > either for funky stuff). >>>> > For the rest, use e-drum kick pedals, pads etc. >>>> > >>>> > B. >>>> > Go the software road (i.e. Superior Drummer) and dive deeper into >>>> > drum >>>> > programming. >>>> > >>>> > With drum programming, I can get fairly realistic results. I'm very >>>> > flexible, can start with basic patterns and can refine/change >>>> > things over >>>> > time. However, the process is time consuming & seemingly endless... >>>> > >>>> > With real drum set, there is the beauty of playing immediately the >>>> > right groove with a gut feeling. However, the home recording >>>> > environment >>>> > (space, neighbours) and the mic set-up can be tricky. >>>> > >>>> > I know the best solution is to get a real drummer in a studio >>>> > environment. But laying down stuff quickly (still realistically as >>>> > possible) >>>> > is more important than having the perfect drum track. >>>> > >>>> > Would like to hear your experience & advice on this subject. >>>> > >>>> > best regards >>>> > Buzap >>>> > >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> http://toaster.bandcamp.com > > -- -==-=-=- Tony