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Just quick chime-in on the Gordius: You don't have to use all its functions! And please don't start by looking at the editor software!!!! Start by sitting down with a pencil and paper to make a list of what you need. If you're going to control software loopers and stuff you probably just need to set up the Gordious to send MIDI Notes. For some software it is important to send both a Note On and a Note Off message, like a chromatic keyboard does; and then you go into the Presets window (of the Gordius Editor) and create as many patches as you need switches. Set the Note On as the "First message stream" and Note On as the "Second message stream" (I give them both the value 100 and that seems to work fine). Over here I set up the Gordius once and almost never change it. I have one bank with MIDI Program Change to use for swapping patches on the laptop or the AxeFx amp. Then I have seven banks with Note On messages starting from the lowest and up, ten Note On switches in each bank and the note numbers corresponding to the switch numbers on the pedal (think I had to skip over the low C and start at C sharp to get that logical). Second thing to do is to type in a CC number for the expression pedals. Be sure to chose a good MIDI channel; not a channel that is used by other gear in your rig. (with Mobius that is no problem because when you MIDI Learn the messages Mobiuse takes note also about MIDI channel. Well, Mainstage does too. I think most modern software do that, so it is easy to set up if you keep it logical and straight from the beginning). There's a lot of useful stuff in the Gordius, like setting up switches to send 30 second's controller sweeps or scripting, but you shouldn't worry about all that. Worry about listing what you need and then just set it up. From there you can go into more advanced stuff later, if you want (I haven't gotten there yet and doubt I ever will) ... Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 5:45 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote: > Hey Phil, I loved the look and idea (and price) of the Keith Mac stuff. I > was a really early adopter of the Softstep. The really clunky software > didnt > bother me, but I couldnt get on with a pedal board that had no "give" no > "click" or any feeling of feedback at all. I was always triggering > things by > accident, or not at all, I sent it back... > > Phew....back staring at the Gordius software now, I think my main > misunderstanding with it (Where I say misunderstanding I mean, totally > fucking confused and aint got clue!) Is "where I actually program a > pedal?" > Theres 3 pages, Presets (Is this simply for naming a pedal? But you have > to > decide here what kind of a press you want??? What do I want? midi note, > with > sus... for edp, Prg for Repeater...? which column is that?) Then you > have to > go to Content (Content??? Jeez... Xavier must have worked in website > building at some time) where I think is where you add the fiddley > details, > the good stuff in other words, midi channels, notes blah blah etc But > then > we have Banks.. and then Songs!!! Whats a Bank? Is that a set of 10 > switches?.. so whats a song? Well I know what a song is of course, but... > its a tad too many things here... > > By the way, Im 50 this year, has anyone else discovered that they have > gotten really grumpy about having to use technology lately? God Im really > beginning to hate it, unfortunately my job involves computers... I really > seriously thinking of opening a shop... or café... or I dunno... > Big fat sign on the window CASH ONLY! > maybe its just me... mid life crisis and all that... teenagers suddenly > look > like children now, it was only a few years ago, I would look at an 19 yr > old > girl, and think Ill ave some of that... now I think.. Cover yourself up > dear, you'll catch your death! > > (more of this rambling at my anonymous non-music related blog > http://grumpyenglishmaninnorway.wordpress.com/ ) > > M > > > On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Philip Clevenger > <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Little Giant, it's infinitely flexible and I've not yet found anything >> it >> can't do - except fit into a backpack under an airplane seat, hence my >> own >> interest in a KMI solution as well. >> >> The software is, like most of these things, rather homespun, but far far >> better than the KMI stuff. >> >> You'll be very happy with your LG once you get thru the initial >> programming learning curve. >> >> Best, >> >> Phil :) >> >> >> On Aug 18, 2013, at 7:18 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> >> wrote: >> >> Im nervously watching this thread cos I just bought a LG.. It all sounds >> very daunting! >> Have to admit, that ages ago I opened the Gordius software to take a >> peek, >> and closed it pretty quick... >> Im terribly sorry, but IM sure theres gonna be stream of irritating >> question heading this way.. (or maybe the Gordius Forum way, if there is >> one.. and if its alive...) >> >> Anyway I hope you are all virtually slapping me on the back saying, >> "well >> done old sport, good choice!" >> I have had a year back with the EDP pedal, and an iPad, and it was >> fun... >> but now THAT pedal is not working too well. At a recent gig I was >> getting >> multiplys instead of inserts.. Hmmm. So I have finally, bitten the >> bullet! >> >> Not here yet, but expecting this week... >> >> M >> >> >> >> On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 11:47 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> >> wrote: >>> >>> Per Boysen wrote: >>> >>>> No need to swap content at all in the Gordius. Just make an additional >>>> bank! Then when using your Looperlative do the tap dancing on Bank #1 >>>> and when tickling the Mobius you step on the same switches in Bank #2. >>>> >>> >>> What I do is to use the LG "Songs" to call up a bank and footpedal >>> assignments >>> for each piece of gear. >>> >>> Then put them all in a LG "Set List". >>> >>> In a "Set List" it's possible to either tick each song for inclusion >>> in the display or not. >>> So while all the banks (and 'songs')stay in the LG memory, it's >>> possible >>> just >>> to just scroll through the banks that are going to be useful in a >>> performance. >>> (the other ones being hidden) >>> >>> andy >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mark Francombe >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no >> twitter @markfrancombe >> >> > > > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe