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I don't know about any Gordius forum but there is a very helpful mailing list at Yahoo Groups. Yes, you can do most things with most programming classes so which class you prefer is more a question about using the leds on the Gordius for indication. I can't answer your other questions 'cause I don't use songs and all that. I make up all "MIDI event bunches" I need in the Prests window and then I go to the Banks window to make up alternate banks to match different rigs I'm using. But only one bank changes; the bank that handles sound patches on either the laptop or the Fractal Audio amp. My other seven banks all send MIDI notes for Moibus and stays the same in all banks. Three expression pedals also stays the same (although pedal #3 is a wha-wha on the Fractal Audio but a Tremolo Speed Shifter for effect return on the laptop). ... Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 11:23 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote: > Im posting here cos I cant find the Gordius Forum, Im sure there was > one, I > might even be a member! Any tips? > > OK one question, where I RE-ask a question from a few weeks back. > Im programming my banks now, and didnt understand the difference between > Patches, Triggers, Two State effects and Momentary effects. > > I NOW think I know. > I dont need Two state (stomp box) or Momentary. > But the ONLY difference I can see between Patches and Triggers, is the > LED´s!!!! CAn this be true? Patches LEDs light up and stay on, whereas > Triggers only light up when you are pressing down? > I cant for the life of me understand why the difference in the editor is > so > great! Why isnt this functionality just a check box by the patch name > (LED > Momentary or Persistant.... For example) > > Ive now made 20 or so PATCHES, which is pretty much how the FCB1010 works > (last switch pressed is lit) but realise that all looper functions should > really be momentary LEDs. > > So: QUESTION 1: Is there a way to copy Patches to be Triggers? Or do I > have > to go thru the lot and re-make them? > > There are SO many options for arranging your Presets, into banks, many > levels, that I dont understand!!! Banks I get, (but isnt what you need > for > a SONG the same as a bank?) And then Setlists I get (arranging of the > songs) > Theres a step I dont understand, which is when you make a Bank, you THEN > need to make it a Banklist, whats THAT for? > But heres the real question... > QUESTION 2: Why with so many LOW LEVEL options, is the now HIGH LEVEL > functionality? > What I mean is that every command has to laboriously enter in, allowing > for > all sorts of errors > > Lets assume 1 patch is made up for 2 commands. (Mine are not, just 1 per > message stream Note on version and Note off) But looking thru the > manual, I > know Im goinf to have lots of fun with stringing lots of UNDOs together > with > delays, or making a SUStain action Speed command (something you can do on > EDP, but only with a preset change) > > Anyway, back to example. 2 commands. One of them is the command for > Record > on a looper. I want to SAVE THAT COMMAND, and be able to bring it up and > add > it to any patch as I make it, and the other command, well it doesnt > really > matter what it is, just that i want to program it ONCE, and have it > available in some kind of command pool, that I can drag into any switch > when > I want. > > Does that make sense? > > Actually it wasnt a question, more of a wish list, discussion point. > > Nighty night > > Mark > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe