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(Excuse the double posting, please) Thanx for the "ruth" Louie ;) The foot switch issues i am having with both Ditto versions seem to appear with Flashback x4 users as well. Just google it. TC seems to have the worst reputation regarding even the repairability of their switches. Devices are so complex, that they don't hesitate trying to sell you a new unit instead of repairing the switch. I deeply disrespect that kind of spoiled rich kid policy. So anyhow: Any suggestions for alternative hardware loopers available with about the specs i listed? Please add "Silent foot switch(es)" to those. +++ On another note: Per Boysen's looper comparison chart on http://www.looproom.com/looperchart.php is the most comprehensive i could find (thanx much, Per), but doesn't list newer things and as well i could imagine a row of "known issues" as well as "foot switches silent?". I danced a bit with a Chinese thing yesterday, a "NUX Loop Core", which does a lot of things only bigger and much more pricey Western machines do, but i don't trust the manufacturing quality (yet). +++ jayrope --- kliklak.net aircushionfinish.com prinzenallee.com