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Ivodne, thanx for the hints. Both the timeline as well as the el capstan seem to lack a dedicated hold button, though. What makes the DDG-1 so special is, that it's originally a DJ unit. RCA jacks, table unit and all. It's hold freezes the max 1024 sec delay and allows it to be pitched just like a tape, obviously using a simple variable pitch rate control (0.5x - 2x). This gives me a range of two octaves, which i can use to play melodies just with the dial on the speed of the delay buffer. Awesome. Using the hold switch on/off in a fast manner inserts bits of original audio into the delay buffer aswell, which i use to create unforseeable surprises during improvisation. I seem to function better as a musician, when surprised of what i hear. By now i didn't find another unit like this. Here's what i just wrote to Strymon about wnated features in one unit - behaves like a tape upon delay time change (so basically pitching/speeding accordingly) - has delay time modulation with depth and freq/time (0.05 - 20 Hz), capable of extreme settings - in tape mode - has a hold button / this takes original signal to bypass delay circuit, while delay buffer loops indefinately. Buffer behaves again like tape, when modulated or delay time is changed manually. - delay is digital Anybody else on this? Thanx much! jayrope --- kliklak.net aircushionfinish.com prinzenallee.com On Dec 13, 2014, at 11:04 PM, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote: > From: takas20@hotmail.com > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: RE: OT: > Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 18:02:48 +0000 > > It's not that cheap, but Strymon's dTape tech emulates ever flaw in tape > echoing you could want - crinkle, wear, bias, wow & flutter, tape age. > It's on bother the el Capistan and the Timeline. Unbeleivable effect. > The Timeline does everything conceivable with all families of delaying. > I am a bit intimidated by mine to the point of not using it. Check out > the manual at Strymon. I think it does all these things. I'm not sure I > understand the mulitiplier point though, the ElCapistan is also pretty > good - same dTape tech but cheaper, but I can't speak for it > > I tend to use my Akai Headrush II instead because it's so simple. but it > isn't as good an emulation. Goes up to 20 secs in tape mode, but doesn't > multiply over a certain length > > I played the Catalinbread Belle Epoch but I didn't get it because it > only goes to 800msec > > > > Subject: OT: > > From: jrploopers@kliklak.net > > Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 17:07:47 +0100 > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > > Slightly OT: > > > > I use my fav digital delay (Vestax DDG-1) as a short interval looper > > (up to 1024ms), but it is slowly giving up to work, and they are very > > rare. > > > > Does anybody have a tip of todays new pedals/ztable units (not rack > > mount!) for the following delay features: > > > > - behaves like a tape upon delay time change (like a EHX SMMH in loop > > mode) > > - dedicated hold switch (not momentary - just circles delay buffer > > until switched off, input to buffer switched off, no fade) > > - delay time modulation with separate depth and speed control, capable > > of extreme settings, approx. from 0.05 Hz to at least 20 Hz > > - has a separate dial for a delay time multiplication, e.g. 0.5x - 2x, > > furthermore if delay dial is already at 0.5x, then resulting range > > would be 1-4x and vice versa for the other extreme. > > - writes slices of live signal into delay buffer at moentary buffer > > position, when fast on/off-switching the hol. > > - stereo would be nice, but mono already works with me. > > > > you probably won't find much ddg-1 live examples anywhere, however, > > the 1980s rack mount predecessor vesta fire dig 411b is technically > > the same unit, though mono. But any rack unit is too big for my travel > > setup. > > recently checked out the super awesome death by audio echo dream 2, > > but it is missing the hold > > switch.http://www.deathbyaudiostore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=DBA012 > > > > > > any hints on otehr product or diy things? thanx a lot! > > > > jayrope > > --- > > kliklak.net > > aircushionfinish.com > > prinzenallee.com > > > >