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Re: OT: Digital tape delay with hold and modulation



Ibanez DM-1100
Rig


On Monday, December 15, 2014 5:05 AM, Ivodne Galatea <takas20@hotmail.com> wrote:


Why is it that no matter what delay unit or looper or reverb I read about, I want it? (headbang)

Probably not the same but just in case it helps you through

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Vestax-MDD-9-Digital-Delay-Vintage-Unit-/180910639806



> Subject: Re: OT: Digital tape delay with hold and modulation
> From: jrploopers@kliklak.net
> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 11:53:50 +0100
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
> Ivodne, thanx for the hints.
>
> Both the timeline as well as the el capstan seem to lack a dedicated hold button, though.
> What makes the DDG-1 so special is, that it's originally a DJ unit. RCA jacks, table unit and all.
> It's hold freezes the max 1024 sec delay and allows it to be pitched just like a tape, obviously using a simple variable pitch rate control (0.5x - 2x).
> This gives me a range of two octaves, which i can use to play melodies just with the dial on the speed of the delay buffer. Awesome.
> Using the hold switch on/off in a fast manner inserts bits of original audio into the delay buffer aswell, which i use to create unforseeable surprises during improvisation. I seem to function better as a musician, when surprised of what i hear.
>
> By now i didn't find another unit like this.
>
> Here's what i just wrote to Strymon about wnated features in one unit
>
> - behaves like a tape upon delay time change (so basically pitching/speeding accordingly)
> - has delay time modulation with depth and freq/time (0.05 - 20 Hz), capable of extreme settings - in tape mode
> - has a hold button / this takes original signal to bypass delay circuit, while delay buffer loops indefinately.
> Buffer behaves again like tape, when modulated or delay time is changed manually.
> - delay is digital
>
> Anybody else on this? Thanx much!
>
> jayrope
> ---
> kliklak.net
> aircushionfinish.com
> prinzenallee.com
>
> On Dec 13, 2014, at 11:04 PM, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote:
>
> > From: takas20@hotmail.com
> > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
> > Subject: RE: OT:
> > Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 18:02:48 +0000
> >
> > It's not that cheap, but Strymon's dTape tech emulates ever flaw in tape echoing you could want - crinkle, wear, bias, wow & flutter, tape age. It's on bother the el Capistan and the Timeline. Unbeleivable effect. The Timeline does everything conceivable with all families of delaying. I am a bit intimidated by mine to the point of not using it. Check out the manual at Strymon. I think it does all these things. I'm not sure I understand the mulitiplier point though, the ElCapistan is also pretty good - same dTape tech but cheaper, but I can't speak for it
> >
> > I tend to use my Akai Headrush II instead because it's so simple. but it isn't as good an emulation. Goes up to 20 secs in tape mode, but doesn't multiply over a certain length
> >
> > I played the Catalinbread Belle Epoch but I didn't get it because it only goes to 800msec
> >
> >
> > > Subject: OT:
> > > From: jrploopers@kliklak.net
> > > Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 17:07:47 +0100
> > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > >
> > > Slightly OT:
> > >
> > > I use my fav digital delay (Vestax DDG-1) as a short interval looper (up to 1024ms), but it is slowly giving up to work, and they are very rare.
> > >
> > > Does anybody have a tip of todays new pedals/ztable units (not rack mount!) for the following delay features:
> > >
> > > - behaves like a tape upon delay time change (like a EHX SMMH in loop mode)
> > > - dedicated hold switch (not momentary - just circles delay buffer until switched off, input to buffer switched off, no fade)
> > > - delay time modulation with separate depth and speed control, capable of extreme settings, approx. from 0.05 Hz to at least 20 Hz
> > > - has a separate dial for a delay time multiplication, e.g. 0.5x - 2x, furthermore if delay dial is already at 0.5x, then resulting range would be 1-4x and vice versa for the other extreme.
> > > - writes slices of live signal into delay buffer at moentary buffer position, when fast on/off-switching the hol.
> > > - stereo would be nice, but mono already works with me.
> > >
> > > you probably won't find much ddg-1 live examples anywhere, however, the 1980s rack mount predecessor vesta fire dig 411b is technically the same unit, though mono. But any rack unit is too big for my travel setup.
> > > recently checked out the super awesome death by audio echo dream 2, but it is missing the hold switch.http://www.deathbyaudiostore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=DBA012
> > >
> > > any hints on otehr product or diy things? thanx a lot!
> > >
> > > jayrope
> > > ---
> > > kliklak.net
> > > aircushionfinish.com
> > > prinzenallee.com
> > >
> > >
>