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though perhaps not relevant to EchoLoop, I have nearly abandoned the use of instant multiply in favor or strait multiply in Mobius, either tied to a next loop function, or as a stand alone preset, Why, because it flows better for creation of song form, for example: i create a short loop of content that I want to be part of a longer loop and then simply overdub my new content while in multiply for as many bars as I want to multiply by. before I'd hit instant multiply and then go in to overdub and then out again, thats 3 switch presses whereas the afore mentioned use of multiply as overdub is only two switch presses. Once I got the hang of Multiply, it seemed the easiest way to elongate my loops with out much tap dancing on an instant multiply function. 2 cents for ya. bill > > > On 01/01/2015 11:49, Per Boysen wrote: >> I doubt it will be possible > > I use it all the time. > Hit Nextloop ...EDP waits > Hit Mult (no. of cycles+1) times. > EDP multiplys by (no. of cycles) in new loop. > > > >> because in the EDP and Echoloop Multiply >> is a real-time process; you really have to let the playback roll all >> the way... and a real-time process can not be made "instant" with >> nifty LG control scripting. > > indeed, it's not the 'instant multiply' as available elsewhere, > ...but I don't think that matters. > > The loop length is defined in advance, without having to wait. > > In practice the only difference is that any input will be overdubbed for > the length > of the new loop. > > The 'Insert' idea won't help, I'm afraid, > it's no more "instant" than Mult. > (You must be thinking of Stutter Mode here, so > it's not quite as insane an idea as I first thought.) > ;-) > > andy > > >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.perboysen.com >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 11:56 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> >> wrote: >>> Hi Phil, >>> >>> On the EDP I just hit Multiply as quick as possible, >>> and it works fine. >>> >>> So there exists the possibility that this is an Echoloop bug. >>> >>> ...but really I need your Echoloop settings to know whats going on. >>> >>> I suspect that adjustment of the SamplerStyle parameter will help. >>> >>> or Quantise? >>> >>> >>> If not, it's possible to delay the LG by a fixed number of midi-beats. >>> Lets not go there just yet. >>> >>> >>> andy >>> >>> >>> On 01/01/2015 09:07, Phil Clevenger wrote: >>>> >>>> Okay all you Echoloop & Little Giant people… >>>> >>>> I’ve spent two days on this problem and now I must come to you :) >>>> >>>> *Goal: To create a command on the LG that will result in effectively >>>> an >>>> “Instant Multiply” like we see on the LP1 or in Mobius. “Go to next >>>> loop, >>>> copy and multiply x 4.” Or: “Go to Loop 3 and multiply x 3 cycles.” >>>> That >>>> kind of thing.* >>>> >>>> For the Echoloop, it’s harder that it seems like it ought to be: >>>> >>>> The problem is, Echoloop/EDP uses “Multi-Increase” to accomplish such >>>> stuff - and that’s great, but it’s also a hassle. If I want x4, that’s >>>> *four* tap dance steps. I want to do this in one :) >>>> >>>> On the LG, I can execute Next Loop, or Go To Loop, and with SndMulti >>>> active in the Echoloop, I’ll be in Multiply mode right away. Now, to >>>> emulate >>>> the 4 note ons and note offs that four presses of Multiply would >>>> make, I can >>>> program them into the same LG switch press… but the problem is, it’s >>>> very >>>> important *when* those commands execute: they must execute *after* the >>>> rounding period after I press the “Next Loop” switch, when we have >>>> arrived >>>> in Multiply mode. Delaying messages by absolute times is supported by >>>> LG, >>>> but that is useless as I will not always be reliably at the same >>>> tempo; >>>> delaying by beats in the LG is useless too, as I cannot use the LG as >>>> my >>>> clock, nor will I always know how many beats are required. >>>> >>>> /The LG simply has no awareness of Echoloop states… / >>>> >>>> So… anyone know how to make an Instant Multiply using these tools? >>>> >>>> And yes - that’s how I’ve spent New Years Eve and the days leading up >>>> to >>>> it :D >>>> >>>> HAPPY NEW YEAR :) >>>> >>>> Thanks all - >>>> >>>> Phil :) >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >