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I have a set of foot pedals that I use for such purposes, but playing in the soprano range. If you've ever learned an organ pedal part it's surprisingly easy
> Subject: Re: guitarists: triple play? > From: 3x09@carlsonarts.com > Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 22:39:35 -0600 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Or, perhaps by using a harmonizer controlled by a second player on keys, or a prepared polyphonic MIDI track the monophonic line could become harmony in the first layer of the loop. > > Peace and Adventure! > > Michael Carlson > > On Jan 5, 2015, at 6:05 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I've started with "MIDI guitar" in the late eighties, with the first > > models and have recently been using the GR-55 (+ GK3 pickups), but I > > still prefer none of that but rather playing my usual audio signal > > into some audio-to-waveform converter. These are available as software > > plugins for those who play through a computer and then there are some > > new digital amps sporting these algorithms as well. This gives you a > > direct monophonic synth tone with immediate musicality, i.e. no > > latency and accurately following how you're shaping the tone on the > > physical instrument. > > > > Some might not like playing monophonic lines but I think that's great > > for live looping because in a few seconds you can build any chord in a > > looper by layering the required number of notes. > > > > Greetings from Sweden > > > > Per Boysen > > www.perboysen.com > > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 12:45 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > >> > >> > >> On 05/01/2015 09:35, Diarmuid Pigott wrote: > >> > >>> My own experience of MIDI from strings is that the detection of vibrato > >>> and bend and gliss is pretty much > >>> dependant on the MIDI instrument I am using. > >> > >> > >> I think there's a bit of a miss-conception going around. > >> > >> The Midi instrument actually has nothing to do with detection, > >> it only responds to midi commands. > >> By then the detection is already done. > >> What *is* important is that the Midi instrument needs to respond > >> correctly in order to interpret the pitch information correctly. > >> i.e. the amount of pitch change in response to MidiPitchBend has to be set > >> correctly. > >> That's actually rather trivial to set up, as long as the midi instrument > >> supports it. > >> > >> For a device like the Fishman the situation is a bit different, in that > >> there may be processing of the audio from the pickup. > >> In that case it's obviously possible to pass the audio in some form and > >> get what seems like "perfect tracking", when no tracking has been needed. > >> > >> For note detection there's an absolute limit that's never going to be > >> beaten. > >> I look at it from a slightly different angle to the usual idea of note > >> frequencies. > >> The impulse from plucking the string has to travel up to the fret and back > >> to the pickup > >> before it's possible to calculate which fret was used. > >> > >> Using that way of looking at things the Axon system can make a the quickest > >> possible > >> guess at what the note played is, then it uses a more regular analysis to > >> measure > >> the frequency. Should the initial guess be wrong a correction is made to the > >> Note-On > >> that was sent using MidiPitchBend. > >> As the Axon system is patented then it kind of looks like no-ones going to > >> get > >> faster tracking without licensing it. > >> > >> Warbling on a sustained note occurs when the fundamental of the note fades > >> before the harmonics, > >> so on some instruments there'll be one or two notes that warble every time. > >> Just down to the resonance of the instrument. > >> If the instrument is specially designed to work with midi convertion I > >> suspect > >> they spend a lot of time working removing any 'bad notes'. > >> > >> If there's going to be any improvement over the Axon system it won't > >> be in fast detection of the note, but rather in the ability to > >> keep tracking a note as it dies away. > >> > >> > >> andy > >> ps. for playing around, the monophonic devices by Sonuus have somewhat > >> slower note > >> detection but are fairly warble resistant. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > |