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wow, finally the EDP comes back to wikipedia? last week I had to clean out a pile of faxes and scanned the communication with Gibson/Oberheim between 1993 and 1996, maybe those prove something? > On 150203, at 07:01 , andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > > > I think it's much more of a game than you'd imagine. > > If citatations are done in the Wikipedia format (links to a list at the > bottom of the page), > and are placed into the test at least as if they support each point > being made > you might get away with it. > > Really what they ask for is "secondary quotes". (quoted twice) > i.e. if an academic paper magazine quoted what Matthias said to a > magazine. > 2 levels of quoting. > > > It's more likely that the way your quoting looks is going to be > scrutinised, > but not so much the content. > > > Anyway,some sources:- > > maybe the manual can be cited to prove involvement of Gibson? > > http://www.gibson.com/files/amps/EchoplexPlusManual12.pdf > > > An independent version of the history is here: > > "The original Oberheim Exhoplex was initially released in 1994. Later, > in 2001 it was relabeled the Gibson Echoplex after Gibson took over > Oberheim. Then it was reissued in 2003 in a slightly upgraded form as > the Gibson Echoplex Digital Pro Plus (pictured above in black)." > > http://www.vintagesynth.com/oberheim/echoplex.php > > > andy butler > > > On 02/02/2015 20:04, Clifford Novey wrote: >> Hello, >> I edited the page in 2010 (quoted at bottom) and it has since been >> removed by a user stating it did not have citations. I am ot sure how I >> would get citations for the whole Paradis to Oberhiem to Gibson story. >> Any help appreciated. I prefer direct email to this list. >> >> I hope everyone is well and I still loop! >> >> Clifford >> cnovey@gmail dot cm >> or clifford@cliffordnovey d o t c m >> >> current Wiki page- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echoplex >> >> removed section: >> >> >> "The Echoplex Digital Pro >> >> Gibson, after buying the Echoplex brand later (ca 1993) licensed the >> hardware and software of the Paradis Loop Delay originally created by >> Matthias Grob <http://matthias.grob.org/pMusEng/loopdev.htm> and his >> team at Aurisis Research <http://www.aurisis.com/aboutus.htm>. It was >> branded the Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro (Oberheim was a division of >> Gibson at the time)and a later revision was branded the Gibson Echoplex >> Digital Pro Plus and contained a major software upgrade called LoopIV >> developed and still sold as of this writing by Aurisis Research >> <http://www.aurisis.com/loopiv.htm>. The "EDP" as it would be called >> was a major development and innovation in the technique of audio >> looping (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_loop) and still has an >> eclectic following of users also known as "loopers". The EDP is an all >> digital device and though retaining the Echoplex name does not retain >> any of the electro mechanical design of the original, ie. the analog >> tape loop. The >> website and looper resource Looper's Delight >> <http://www.loopers-delight.com/loop.html> was created by the EDP >> co-developer Kim Flint and still hosts an active email list. >> (Information for this section was gathered from the web pages linked in >> this section and from emails exchanged with Matthias Grob. See also >> http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/echoplex/OBechoplexhistory.html >> for a brief history written by Matthias Grob.)" >> >> >