From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 1 05:00:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A03118347A; Sat, 1 Oct 2011 05:00:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=plE5vy3oRxyebS8leb/0EwijWiXmlpKT3F8J7G8lX42ugYrAqx39mA5oh0iYhJQ3; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <15954400.1317445255883.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 00:00:55 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Grant Reply-To: Grant To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: 'Rang--Expression pedal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 X-ELNK-Trace: 4627597e215714c3ca853a8129e90869f402879cecb40bd57720245b1927dc64f335825fc34252767b98ca64be637694350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.33 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112109 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 05:00:56 +0000 (UTC)

This = seems incorrect. You WOULD need to use one whole channel of a stereo v= olume pedal to create a single expression pedal (with the appropriate cable= s/adapters) but this should leave the second channel free for normal audio = use. Of course they would be linked to a single control surface so it's not= clear it would be all that useful unless you wanted to change the aud= io signal and simultaneously be changing the feedback. Or am I misunderstan= ding the problem?

 

G


-----Original Message-----
From: Clayton Gary Lehmann
Sent: Sep 30, 2011 6:03 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-d= elight.com
Subject: 'Rang--Expression pedal

Yeah, I wrote:

I am going to try usi= ng an Ernie Ball stereo pedal on my Boomerang, and see if it can control th= e feedback as well as the output volume.

But it seems the = =E2=80=98Rang needs to see a stereo volume pedal to control FB=E2=80=94both= sides!

So I would need ano= ther pedal, one more piece o=E2=80=99gear, and it would affect the thru sig= nal as well.

I like the =E2=80= =98Rang, but it has its limitations . . .

Grumbly Gary

From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 1 05:03:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 52151183490; Sat, 1 Oct 2011 05:03:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=J3uKi8QSWaS2Kb4RvXndLyBA3RWpJ3cNk8N8k1rzHF7vE/0HwsFNhwrOdgskedN4; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <23062121.1317445419480.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 00:03:39 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Grant Reply-To: Grant To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: 'Rang--Expression pedal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 X-ELNK-Trace: 4627597e215714c3ca853a8129e90869f402879cecb40bd57720245b1927dc64e921dfb3c3f5f8affe7152681ab5263b350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.33 Resent-Message-ID: <54nqf.A.eDD.s8phOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112110 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 05:03:40 +0000 (UTC)

BTW, = this might work pretty well with one of those pan/volume pedals. Maybe up a= nd down for the audio volume, side-to-side for the feedback. Or something l= ike that.

 

G

 = ;


-----Original Message-----
From: Clayton Gary Lehmann
Sent: Sep 30, 2011 6:03 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-d= elight.com
Subject: 'Rang--Expression pedal

Yeah, I wrote:

I am going to try usi= ng an Ernie Ball stereo pedal on my Boomerang, and see if it can control th= e feedback as well as the output volume.

But it seems the = =E2=80=98Rang needs to see a stereo volume pedal to control FB=E2=80=94both= sides!

So I would need ano= ther pedal, one more piece o=E2=80=99gear, and it would affect the thru sig= nal as well.

I like the =E2=80= =98Rang, but it has its limitations . . .

Grumbly Gary

From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 1 08:34:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3E4118348C; Sat, 1 Oct 2011 08:34:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E86D080.8070702@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2011 04:34:08 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:7.0) Gecko/20110922 Thunderbird/7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Thought Radio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9nLRR.A.xcF.ECthOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112111 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 08:34:12 +0000 (UTC) THOUGHT RADIO: http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio ======================================================================= My next stint on Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show, will be Saturday, October 1 at 6 am EDT/GMT-4. I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs in Phase One. I will also play music by some of the musicians who will play at the Soundscapes Concert Series on Sunday, October 2. I host the show every other week. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 1 09:47:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA89518348A; Sat, 1 Oct 2011 09:47:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_6c33e425-b87d-48a9-bacf-e3475fdbbb03_" X-Originating-IP: [86.165.3.145] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: OT: DIY MIDI guitar Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 09:47:35 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Oct 2011 09:47:36.0333 (UTC) FILETIME=[2663FBD0:01CC801F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112112 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 09:47:37 +0000 (UTC) --_6c33e425-b87d-48a9-bacf-e3475fdbbb03_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah=2C that was m=2C last summer. I love the way this bloke uses whatever = he can find and on a tight budget. Ingenuity over resources - Great!I aband= oned my own project due to the lack of string bending capabilities of this = system and the fact that I'm just not smart enough to make shit like this w= ork =3B-) Gareth=2C Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > Date: Fri=2C 30 Sep 2011 11:50:04 -0400 > Subject: OT: DIY MIDI guitar > From: sylvain.trombone@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > I seem to recall someone on the list working on a similar project? > Sylvain >=20 > http://hackaday.com/2011/09/29/fully-fretted-guitar-midi-controller/?utm_= source=3Dfeedburner&utm_medium=3Dfeed&utm_campaign=3DFeed%3A+hackaday%2FLgo= M+%28Hack+a+Day%29&utm_content=3DGoogle+Reader >=20 = --_6c33e425-b87d-48a9-bacf-e3475fdbbb03_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I = abandoned my own project due to the lack of string bending capabilities of = this system and the fact that I'm just not smart enough to make shit like t= his work =3B-)

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= --_6c33e425-b87d-48a9-bacf-e3475fdbbb03_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 1 17:15:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF26618348B; Sat, 1 Oct 2011 17:15:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E874A9A.2070200@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2011 13:15:06 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Thought Radio Playlist for October 1, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112113 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 17:15:25 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2011/111001.html The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EDT/GMT-4 on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. http://soundscapes.us/afterglow Show #208 October 1, 2011. On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. Each contemporary issue comes with a CD. However, the early issues came with a cassette. The cassettes from issues one through thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic slip covers with artwork and track details. Details are at: http://sequencesmagazine.com On this program, I preempted Phases 2 and 3 for a special, all electronic program featuring musicians who will be playing at the Equinoxygen Festival October 1 and at the Soundscapes Concert Series on October 2. http://onethousandpulses.com http://soundscapes.us Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Steve Roach A Few More Moments Quiet Music (Projekt) Dean De Benedictis Live on Galactic none (none) and Vic Hennegan Travels 9-29-11 VA [Mike Brooks] Toward the Unknown Sequences No. 16 Ian Boddy and Scorpio Moire (DiN) Bernhard Wostheinrich Ian Boddy and Diaphram Moire (DiN) Bernhard Wostheinrich Ian Boddy and Moire Moire (DiN) Bernhard Wostheinrich Sensitive Chaos Remembering Remembering Chestnuts, Icy Chestnuts, Icy Cold, and Bells (Subsequent) Cold, and Bells The Electric Golem Sky Snails Part 2 Sky Snails (Periphery) Richard Lainhart Nocturne 2 (101399) Five Nocturnes (O-Town Music) VA [Klaus Hoffmann- Conundrum iNDEX03 (DiN) Hoock and Bernhard Wostheinrich Keller and Long Distances Long Distances (Manikin) Schonwalder Phase II/Eclectic: Phase III/Progressive Rock: Pre-empted for Phase 1. * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill Fox ======================================================================== Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EDT/GMT-4. Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music. Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Website - http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 1 20:52:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1182018348E; Sat, 1 Oct 2011 20:52:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; bh=/PWJnOrVIrMlCoWMvfximFlbSVQKC8ry6VUTEDL3Tbs=; b=SgGwIntZqzpljbheAbcPaE3/y2G3b43pikekdPppk1Zsc0q/m3fVlX+NIs2UAFWMam 8DxsHzDDbN6agb5qwuYOQkRGlVqQqhl+0ZKuU4AKlV5YV2dOmeVwOxNUu6xqd3Q3nlGo KUasD4osidST5DHXplL94q/nEmFAEVouC4fWE= Message-ID: <4E877CCE.3040508@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2011 22:49:18 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9.2.22) Gecko/20110902 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.14 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LOOPING a DRY CLEANING SHOP References: <4E827A41.1020001@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090804010009080108080604" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112114 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 20:52:01 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090804010009080108080604 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Matt, I see the problem here as twofold: one of the issues is that the video does not resemble what is being played (and Per is right with his answers, that music videos usually never have anything to do with the music reality - even on normal stuff, you hear four guitars when there's only one guitarist visible; it even happens on live concerts where when e.g. AC/DC is playing you always having a hired hand backstage doubling/playing rhythm parts). Part two, however, is more complex, and is best looked at at your comment on the book dropping sounding like a handclap. You can make the sound of a book dropping - the sound of any book dropping anytime sound like a handclap, using only linear processing. In fact, you can turn any sound into any sound using only linear processing (*). This had been this way for eternity, what has changed in recent years/decades is that today, this is possible using your run-of-the-mill computer and some free software. Of course, this makes a big part of the idea and artistical aesthetic of musique concrete meaningless. Back in the early works of Pierre Schaeffer, it was interesting that the sound of splashing an egg into the pan could be turned into inflammatory bowel disease; however, the musically relevant part was that that bowel disease sound was used in a musically meaningful way. Today, you can turn that bowel disease into a near-perfect replica of Gould's later recording of the Goldbergvariationen or vice versa - but what's the use? With everything being possible, the craft (I'm using the word "craft" here as opposed to "art") of doing crazy sound processing has become less and less interesting. In fact so much that I find it more interesting when either unheard sounds are created (but then I don't care if it's by processing or by synthesis, and this doesn't happen that often, anyway), or when people go out and use unusual sounds recontextualized in a kind of acoustic musique concrete as in the works of Anne Gosfield (recommendation: "Flying Sparks and Heavy Machinery"). The whole story: 1) music videos lie to you, the same way politicans lie to you. There may be exceptions to the rule. 2) audio processing in a form of "look how I can turn this sound into a completely unrelated one" has become uninteresting. Unless you make something interesting with it musically, but then you can also play it on your grand piano or kazoo. Rainer *: linear processing means - in building blocks of the digital domain - a combination of adders, amplifiers and the hallowed delays (Richardson). Every sound has some sine wave hidden in it (Fourier). Now using your building blocks, build a filter and get one sine wave from your source sound. Feed that into a delay, then into other delays which you then modulate, and modulating amplifiers after them, you can do additive synthesis. And if you just use enough delays, the result becomes as close to the thing you want it to sound like as you care (Fourier again). Am 28.09.2011 19:28, schrieb Matt Davignon: > There was something that bothered me about these clips, including > "musician plays a tree" (also featuring Diego) and "music for one > apartment and six drummers". I gradually figured out that it's not the > musicians themselves. I see Diego as taking the torch from Matmos and > running with it. He is doing a lot of creative stuff. > > The thing that bugs me is the video treatment and promotion. He's not > really playing a dry cleaning shop as an instrument - he's making lots > of tiny recordings, then arranging them on the computer to make music. > The video treatment suggests that he's playing all the "instruments" > from start to finish live. > > The "music for one apartment and six drummers" video > (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVPVbc8LgP4) specifically lies to you > - it doesn't even show the computer! Somehow, the drummers are able to > amplify the sounds of perfume bottles, etc without microphones. Also, > the sounds of books being dropped on the floor sound like handclaps, > and sound exactly the same each time. > > So yeah, it puts the sensationalism above the music, and that bugs me. > > -- > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com > > Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs --------------090804010009080108080604 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Matt,

I see the problem here as twofold: one of the issues is that the video does not resemble what is being played (and Per is right with his answers, that music videos usually never have anything to do with the music reality - even on normal stuff, you hear four guitars when there's only one guitarist visible; it even happens on live concerts where when e.g. AC/DC is playing you always having a hired hand backstage doubling/playing rhythm parts).

Part two, however, is more complex, and is best looked at at your comment on the book dropping sounding like a handclap.
You can make the sound of a book dropping - the sound of any book dropping anytime sound like a handclap, using only linear processing. In fact, you can turn any sound into any sound using only linear processing (*).
This had been this way for eternity, what has changed in recent years/decades is that today, this is possible using your run-of-the-mill computer and some free software.

Of course, this makes a big part of the idea and artistical aesthetic of musique concrete meaningless. Back in the early works of Pierre Schaeffer, it was interesting that the sound of splashing an egg into the pan could be turned into inflammatory bowel disease; however, the musically relevant part was that that bowel disease sound was used in a musically meaningful way.
Today, you can turn that bowel disease into a near-perfect replica of Gould's later recording of the Goldbergvariationen or vice versa - but what's the use?

With everything being possible, the craft (I'm using the word "craft" here as opposed to "art") of doing crazy sound processing has become less and less interesting. In fact so much that I find it more interesting when either unheard sounds are created (but then I don't care if it's by processing or by synthesis, and this doesn't happen that often, anyway), or when people go out and use unusual sounds recontextualized in a kind of acoustic musique concrete as in the works of Anne Gosfield (recommendation: "Flying Sparks and Heavy Machinery").


The whole story:
1) music videos lie to you, the same way politicans lie to you. There may be exceptions to the rule.
2) audio processing in a form of "look how I can turn this sound into a completely unrelated one" has become uninteresting. Unless you make something interesting with it musically, but then you can also play it on your grand piano or kazoo.

          Rainer

*: linear processing means - in building blocks of the digital domain - a combination of adders, amplifiers and the hallowed delays (Richardson). Every sound has some sine wave hidden in it (Fourier). Now using your building blocks, build a filter and get one sine wave from your source sound. Feed that into a delay, then into other delays which you then modulate, and modulating amplifiers after them, you can do additive synthesis. And if you just use enough delays, the result becomes as close to the thing you want it to sound like as you care (Fourier again).


Am 28.09.2011 19:28, schrieb Matt Davignon:
There was something that bothered me about these clips, including "musician plays a tree" (also featuring Diego) and "music for one apartment and six drummers". I gradually figured out that it's not the musicians themselves. I see Diego as taking the torch from  Matmos and running with it. He is doing a lot of creative stuff.

The thing that bugs me is the video treatment and promotion. He's not really playing a dry cleaning shop as an instrument - he's making lots of tiny recordings, then arranging them on the computer to make music. The video treatment suggests that he's playing all the "instruments" from start to finish live.

The "music for one apartment and six drummers" video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVPVbc8LgP4) specifically lies to you - it doesn't even show the computer! Somehow, the drummers are able to amplify the sounds of perfume bottles, etc without microphones. Also, the sounds of books being dropped on the floor sound like handclaps, and sound exactly the same each time.

So yeah, it puts the sensationalism above the music, and that bugs me.

--
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusic.com
Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com
Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt


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--------------090804010009080108080604-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 1 21:00:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A787183491; Sat, 1 Oct 2011 21:00:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=blJrE+pdk+B7u8JmGO7O7JqRU9vXbYjM62Gx1ZMu9glLE3E8dE5uMI4FCQTHJjci; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <3898782.1317490467263.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 12:34:27 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Grant Reply-To: Grant To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: 'Rang--Expression pedal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 X-ELNK-Trace: 4627597e215714c3ca853a8129e90869f402879cecb40bd57720245b1927dc64214916d225a05a5d848be5d43d19f51d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.44 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112115 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 21:00:55 +0000 (UTC)

"=E2=80=94it=E2=80=99s two in, two out" Yes, that's what I= meant by two channels (L & R). Why does the Rang need both to control = feedback since that is an "expression pedal" thing and would only take one = of the channels to implement? And I was thinking of a different EB pedal th= at has independent pots, one for the "up and down" and one for the "side-to= -side" motion. Anyway, looks like you have found a solution but just wanted= to clarify.

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Clayton Gary Lehmann
Sent: Oct 1, 2011 1:00 AM
To: 'Grant'
Subject: RE: 'Rang--Expression pedal

The Ernie Ball is thi= s kind of pedal=E2=80=94there is a switch that toggles between both togethe= r/full volume at either end of the pedal throw for each of the two inputs= =E2=80=94in other words, all the way down is all the way up for one side of= the stereo split for one setting, and the other setting is normal.

But I didn=E2=80=99t = understand about the second channel remark=E2=80=94this is a stereo volume = pedal, and the =E2=80=98Rang needs both sides to control the feedback. Ther= e is no second channel on the EB pedal=E2=80=94it=E2=80=99s two in, two out= .

BTW, I wound up using= a Yamaha FC-7 instead . . .

 


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= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 1 21:29:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63502183477; Sat, 1 Oct 2011 21:29:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=BerM6hcXocQtTOrxROKOeN0sLpVOutCwulRfROD9uvE=; b=kEiqRx0Tz8XAcekxTiYXOagnCFIeCS0L0nNZQs1AmH2U6j4E4bdFnnnNKZ43JTLX6N nGt/6KoMObPor6X8jv98Q7nfK1kEmeQSaygRmCOiPt2IYJQty89yEXRvr45V3EVY+cb4 Tt8l6gETTgwte/Z1r6ebXC1Zahngl7VYctRn4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E877CCE.3040508@googlemail.com> References: <4E827A41.1020001@cruzio.com> <4E877CCE.3040508@googlemail.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 17:28:51 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LOOPING a DRY CLEANING SHOP To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517473544f326c404ae436fd0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112116 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 21:29:32 +0000 (UTC) --001517473544f326c404ae436fd0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm so glad you know that tune. I myself play "lost signals and drifting satellites". Annie's got simply the best titles, lol. On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > ** > In fact so much that I find it more interesting when either unheard > sounds are created (but then I don't care if it's by processing or by > synthesis, and this doesn't happen that often, anyway), or when people go > out and use unusual sounds recontextualized in a kind of acoustic musique > concrete as in the works of Anne Gosfield (recommendation: "Flying Sparks > and Heavy Machinery"). > --001517473544f326c404ae436fd0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm so glad you know that tune. =A0 I myself play "lost signals an= d drifting satellites". =A0Annie's got simply the best titles, lol= .=A0

On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Rain= er Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
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=A0In fact so mu= ch that I find it more interesting when either unheard sounds are created (= but then I don't care if it's by processing or by synthesis, and th= is doesn't happen that often, anyway), or when people go out and use un= usual sounds recontextualized in a kind of acoustic musique concrete as in = the works of Anne Gosfield (recommendation: "Flying Sparks and Heavy M= achinery").



--001517473544f326c404ae436fd0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 1 23:15:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAD6518348E; Sat, 1 Oct 2011 23:15:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 237702.37681.bm@omp1032.mail.bf1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1317510915; bh=eGjn8szQcAPJ5ZOXi5NErTWuMUt9Rt5HKnxbe1y5qFk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EAYxrvrpPsO9HYMfB0h0/mDvZL/ex1zAZXCOw8WAdyuRpGLysQtd3CiOmJs2WCGlVHsHH3Fe312hIyPGX4mmjz5j0sZnhfRqKi5f+XXTNiYX76HM3BkXCNztWHYNn04ku6NKyNLckw4drVg5YnlBivKdsRcz0TyJ+Rax2lQvyo8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xazbwDivgxL/n8O4u6WyLf+w7xpJBBk+o7optVwVyOWOGqbFzAwjpxfRbaRh14A3T45C8/5FWbyT7lTWYPPAr5hTyiq2YJ0Q8WvMvH9dgUw8C5Hc8cYPm+nANw2hf8OL1AmdQuwhWZlP8JIJsz+TJ7PmOxd6WcN47dzc04JnjuA=; X-YMail-OSG: _4pRaVYVM1kSSpQAbq2zSXDEDkXWFwfTNemT7iPTGjBpk4b eBZU.XBUBFtEMzyfuW8z_r91Vldhr9rxH3VyfgJ0upnohAj5ftNd3UbfN8Ot wXKjTRPi7VXEimZ0750Uu3H2RKTYorgO0KUtPI5aoRNn2JJrvx5OCRS9Y5Bw rbBJS6alwqvkBRZI4PNRWQo0.6Nlnwo84efxAtthQKfrXlxY9U9b7OLPOgBa 4qSooCfHhfV4amxrQZMRdL9VLsIszlExaVvRB9JpaJWpfk5UXpy_VmG3mNQo t.9v5RE.1bRv.TcJgHbeopJyUbYEZXgynAzXsFaLHrZh_Uew4gvkfjrt1ME5 e4vLtwJ6lqWXRQdJBqpfUqR5hMKjq2VPuImEMmXyvgyzQFjLQeli88s4LKQB tO06FUMFwQ1c7TAIZZE35VICQ5hexivG46hLsTxUThlAK X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.114.317681 Message-ID: <1317510915.26551.YahooMailNeo@web161314.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 16:15:15 -0700 (PDT) From: david kirkdorffer Reply-To: david kirkdorffer Subject: Looking for Antony Hequet To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-1042659678-2119592314-1317510915=:26551" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112117 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 23:15:15 +0000 (UTC) ---1042659678-2119592314-1317510915=:26551 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello -=0A=A0=0ADoes anyone have a current email address for Antony Hequet?= =0A=A0=0AIf yes, please could you let him know I am trying to each him.=A0 = Or could you forward it to me directly to my email (not the LD list please!= )=0A=A0=0AMany thanks if you can help.=A0 =0A=A0=0ABest,=0A=A0=0ADavid Kirk= dorffer ---1042659678-2119592314-1317510915=:26551 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Many thanks if you can help.&nbs= p;
 
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---1042659678-2119592314-1317510915=:26551-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 2 07:13:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE30A18348C; Sun, 2 Oct 2011 07:13:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 677709926/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.29.89/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.29.89 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhwCACYOiE5YbR1Z/2dsb2JhbAAMNZlpkSMBAQEDAThABgsLIRYPCQMCAQIBRRwBh3cGtwKHIQSYc4ws X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.68,476,1312153200"; d="scan'208";a="677709926" Message-ID: <4E880F2F.8030300@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2011 08:13:51 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LOOPING a DRY CLEANING SHOP References: <4E827A41.1020001@cruzio.com> <4E877CCE.3040508@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4E877CCE.3040508@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112118 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 07:13:47 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Straschill wrote: > In > fact, you can turn any sound into any sound using only linear processing now, is that right? http://www.dspguide.com/ch5/4.htm ...of course, that's only a nitpick about the term "linear" What's interesting is if you can turn a sound half way into another. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 2 19:02:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 06AD9183497; Sun, 2 Oct 2011 19:02:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1857 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 02 Oct 2011 19:02:15 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=8tbg/SJUuV2FCSmRdrXJtO3KtiIvYWS+0nvZokcuJmE= c=1 sm=2 a=agWTFdhlyG4A:10 a=xgiziUWsAAAA:8 a=kZCaSYHnAAAA:8 a=AmuB-pcYAAAA:8 a=x9LQtntrAAAA:8 a=OUXYneDTAAAA:8 a=yON5QNfOnnZNDSoh1XYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=9dKDUTTeGJsA:10 a=4g1Un4FPLDYA:10 a=k9XOtJXmrMMA:10 a=053Au2P4wpAA:10 a=1PusUC0uz8i2K_r192AA:9 a=7WswtlJsCkH7d-FNgUAA:7 X-Telus-Outbound-IP: 64.180.193.124 From: richard sales Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--29340247 Subject: Cool Eno Article Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 11:31:15 -0700 Message-Id: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112119 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 19:02:15 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--29340247 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cool eno article http://entertainment.salon.com/2011/10/01/david_mitchell_brian_eno/ richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.goodnaturefarms.com --Apple-Mail-3--29340247 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Cool = eno article


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= --Apple-Mail-3--29340247-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 2 19:49:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 710E8183493; Sun, 2 Oct 2011 19:49:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7Hdh12tlo9GnqvRIfjIe1J0mA9pCw2hMtmYg61aFjUY=; b=qYiG3m+hCaSEvPYaxb8++fLyOv/l4LAUY3d/YWZgC/IJ7gRCvWrDSVdvJRHNQIRTjM +qgDj/uw6fEvge8l44qUHiRlZNd1yo3w454iYVEgf9J9i8Qt8d4/1hP+GZhvBvmHnjQm LMF34KI580e/k9BskKXVczNg0iRnZHOyZj/kU= Message-ID: <4E88BFC3.8080008@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2011 21:47:15 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9.2.22) Gecko/20110902 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.14 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LOOPING a DRY CLEANING SHOP References: <4E827A41.1020001@cruzio.com> <4E877CCE.3040508@googlemail.com> <4E880F2F.8030300@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4E880F2F.8030300@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112120 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 19:49:56 +0000 (UTC) Am 02.10.2011 09:13, schrieb andy butler: > Rainer Straschill wrote: > >> In fact, you can turn any sound into any sound using only linear >> processing > > > now, is that right? > > http://www.dspguide.com/ch5/4.htm > > ...of course, that's only a nitpick about the term "linear" Your nitpicking is always welcome, Andy...but here's what I learned in school. A system is linear, if for a function describing it f and input functions x, y (which can be vectors or whatever), and a scalar a, the following holds. f(a*(x+y))=a*(f(x)+f(y)). This is true for the things we know (with recent accuracy) for home stereo amplifiers, delays, EQs. It is not true for distortion pedals, guitar amplifiers etc. Now there is proof (and I don't want to repeat that here, but it goes somewhat via Feldtkeller and Richardson) that every linear system can be seen as a combination of delays, adders and amplifiers. Soooo...where does that contradict your link? None of these building blocks are in that article's "nonlinear" category. -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 2 20:33:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4DFD18348A; Sun, 2 Oct 2011 20:33:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 677952019/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.29.247/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.29.247 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjMCAKrJiE5YbR33/2dsb2JhbAAMNZlDkSQBAQEBAzhAEQsYCRYPCQMCAQIBRRwBh323WochBJhzjCw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.68,477,1312153200"; d="scan'208";a="677952019" Message-ID: <4E88CA81.4090406@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2011 21:33:05 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: morphing sounds was LOOPING a DRY CLEANING SHOP References: <4E827A41.1020001@cruzio.com> <4E877CCE.3040508@googlemail.com> <4E880F2F.8030300@tiscali.co.uk> <4E88BFC3.8080008@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4E88BFC3.8080008@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112121 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 20:33:00 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Straschill wrote: > Am 02.10.2011 09:13, schrieb andy butler: >> Rainer Straschill wrote: >> >>> In fact, you can turn any sound into any sound using only linear >>> processing >> >> >> now, is that right? >> >> http://www.dspguide.com/ch5/4.htm >> >> ...of course, that's only a nitpick about the term "linear" > Your nitpicking is always welcome, Andy...but here's what I learned in > school. > > A system is linear, if ..... With that definition of linear I don't think it's possible to change any sound into any other. ...can't create frequencies not present in the source signal. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 2 20:36:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6BBE8183491; Sun, 2 Oct 2011 20:36:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4E880F2F.8030300@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4E827A41.1020001@cruzio.com> <4E877CCE.3040508@googlemail.com> <4E880F2F.8030300@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Revfever Subject: Re: LOOPING a DRY CLEANING SHOP (Graeme Revell) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 13:36:21 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <-A19yC.A.SW.OtMiOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112122 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 20:36:30 +0000 (UTC) This topic brings to my mind Graeme Revell's great 1986(?) album "The Insect Musicians" where he took recordings he made of various insects after 2 years of travel he did around the world and took those recordings and manipulated the sound waves via an earlier sampler (and whatever else he used) to create the sound of "exotic new instruments" that were used in the songs he created. And on most (or all?) of the songs, he apparently also dubbed in the actual sounds by some of the insects which I thought was a nice and "respectful" touch. :-) A truly wonderful album that also came with a great booklet telling the whole history of the project and the technical and other details. It is still available online somewhere, both the original LP and also the excellent CD box set reissue that had another previous LP release which was based on the music of the very strange Adolph Wolfli, but no insects were involved, TMK.:-) (ye'll just have do yer own research on Wolfli to see what I mean by "strange".) Cheers, Rev. Fever Portland,OR http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/skult On Oct 2, 2011, at 12:13 AM, andy butler wrote: > Rainer Straschill wrote: > >> In fact, you can turn any sound into any sound using only linear >> processing > > > now, is that right? > > http://www.dspguide.com/ch5/4.htm > > ...of course, that's only a nitpick about the term "linear" > > What's interesting is if you can turn a sound half way > into another. > > > andy > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 3 14:55:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0A08183466; Mon, 3 Oct 2011 14:55:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=CKBBFOpPYfBSFfEY1Rl9efxuAv/fdt7oFsWUUq3BrLQ= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:17 a=xgiziUWsAAAA:8 a=kZCaSYHnAAAA:8 a=AmuB-pcYAAAA:8 a=x9LQtntrAAAA:8 a=OUXYneDTAAAA:8 a=3Wa6oOx5zAQ3sIZy0v8A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Cool Eno Article From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 07:55:28 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9201C13D-2CC7-4F85-9E77-E39029621B26@charter.net> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112123 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 14:55:30 +0000 (UTC) Se=F1or Sales, A great article indeed. I'm a longtime fan of Eno and I've also enjoyed David Mitchel's novel = "Cloud Atlas" as well. A great combination for an interview - thoughtful questions AND = thoughtful answers. Thanks fro bringing it to our attention. Cheers, Ted On Oct 2, 2011, at 11:31 AM, richard sales wrote: > Cool eno article >=20 > http://entertainment.salon.com/2011/10/01/david_mitchell_brian_eno/ >=20 > richard sales > www.glasswing.com > www.richardsales.com > www.hayleysales.com > www.goodnaturefarms.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 3 16:01:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3F11183473; Mon, 3 Oct 2011 16:01:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6+7TVRdVETCbnEhOG5Eh8ibFuC/6Wfd3qh9Mv5jGeJ0=; b=E1HDH8aXjPnYc6Gpb2OzTK03KxJINuKFD8FhTTTqUWy8JuNdsp0d4wFsIJIi02TqPt C4b7vs+8lu7zsWJU4uCX7FaYxvPiuHYtI90Nxemgm0Vi2JQrN149fFHM2CRpbh/wV/m/ x63AbK6ZRlF2lJ0UZyOJCS99B4eaUZGpFnaV8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 18:01:28 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: setting up Mac for audio - questions From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112124 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 16:01:29 +0000 (UTC) Hello people, im going to be aupgrading from the dual core 21" imac to the 27" quad core for audio recording purposes. The thing i need to consider before buying is: would it be better to get it with the 2TB HD than the 1TB? would you then partition the 2TB in two and put all of your software in one and your recordings into the second partition? or would you just get a 1TB and get an external HD to store your files? which one would you recommend or is faster, firewire or USB? could you give me a link to professional reliable ones? the Imacs only have one FW800 port in the back where i already have my RME FW800 plugged in that means i would need a FW hub to plug the external HD,which one would you recomend that have combinations of USBs and FW? so far ive found this one : http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=199941 thanx for your help! cheers Luis -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 3 17:04:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18808183474; Mon, 3 Oct 2011 17:04:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3MHvHq/h2cCKg7vmlqRoGfweOxJzsqgtW5MBXV1wlbs=; b=wzBCTLrm1uaVAOeZ+31RnmCj294UQ0z0A3Zwp1JjLHvtunApO4tIt2g4c8G8KG9bM9 bVFx1qpWFATSbhayfpHqSKzGC4wShUH/RAXqn1Y1A5qxbht6QeDZYvJHOBzpuewCb1RZ mzYhKXYpaCsJq93CvwnSXGOaaj5dwV8Llvdsw= Message-ID: <4E89EA7B.9030208@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 19:01:47 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9.2.22) Gecko/20110902 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.14 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: morphing sounds was LOOPING a DRY CLEANING SHOP References: <4E827A41.1020001@cruzio.com> <4E877CCE.3040508@googlemail.com> <4E880F2F.8030300@tiscali.co.uk> <4E88BFC3.8080008@googlemail.com> <4E88CA81.4090406@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4E88CA81.4090406@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112125 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 17:04:28 +0000 (UTC) Am 02.10.2011 22:33, schrieb andy butler: > With that definition of linear I don't think it's possible to change > any sound into any other. ...can't create frequencies not present in > the source signal. I can't create other frequencies if the system is linear and time invariant (LTI), that is correct, and then all of the system's properties are contained in its impulse response or in its fourier transform, the (complex) frequency response. However, if the condition of time-invariance does not hold (which is for a time-dependant input signal x(t) and an arbitrary time constant T, is f(x(t))=f(x(t+T)) for any T), you can create frequencies not present in the source signal - as a simple press on the speed button of your EDP (or any use of a modulated but otherwise linear delay, like a high-quality chorus/flanger) clearly shows. Rainer note to self: get on and write that blog article about LTI and L and TI systems in audio processing now... -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 3 17:41:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32C7418347A; Mon, 3 Oct 2011 17:41:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+iw8E1R+Uc7Zr0RK7Echzkc5GSbEGswB3lyQppjdmiM=; b=NVb135q9YHMLnbm8Wv9eVZ1c0bbrU6ORxdmFN+Hg/sF+t4VFwpB94hz0RQFTqyF6dP ZGr6ETkUXAqVlDj3rsU82Xqnn2Rj1shswWnlt3FUCg0UjvubKmpqPaDSzMC28PIxVK3b ic59XqJ+UWo3vpjnJkSmgWafnK/w0tFoIVCYo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 19:41:44 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: setting up Mac for audio - questions From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112126 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 17:41:46 +0000 (UTC) Firewire can be daisy-chained. Thus no need for a hub. Avoid USB for audio if possible (USB data transmission capacity flutter with varying CPU load). It's more safe to use extra drives for your project recordings. Best is two drives, where you copy files to keep them identical. This serves two causes: you back up your work and you never have to suffer downtime to defrag the work dirves (given you reformat a drive before copying all work files to it). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Hello people, > im going to be aupgrading from the dual core 21" imac to the 27" quad > core for audio recording purposes. > The thing i need to consider before buying is: > would it be better to get it with the 2TB HD than the 1TB? > would you then partition the 2TB in two and put all of your software > in one and your recordings into the second partition? > or would you just get a 1TB and get an external HD to store your files? > which one would you recommend or is faster, firewire or USB? could you > give me a link to professional reliable ones? > the Imacs only have one FW800 port in the back where i already have my > RME FW800 plugged in > that means i would need a FW hub to plug the external HD,which one > would you recomend =C2=A0that have combinations of USBs and FW? > so far ive found this one : > > http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=3D199941 > > thanx for your help! > cheers > Luis > > > > -- > www.luis-angulo.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 3 17:42:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F6A3183474; Mon, 3 Oct 2011 17:42:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 678370102/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.178.24/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.178.24 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlwCAEfziU5V0rIY/2dsb2JhbAAMNpkzkSgBAQEDAThABgsLIRYPCQMCAQIBRRwBh3e4XIchBJhzjCw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.68,480,1312153200"; d="scan'208";a="678370102" Message-ID: <4E89F410.4000001@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 18:42:40 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: setting up Mac for audio - questions References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8pWARC.A.dIB.IQfiOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112127 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 17:42:32 +0000 (UTC) Louie Angulo wrote: > which one would you recommend or is faster, firewire or USB? could you > give me a link to professional reliable ones? Firewire has less robust connectors (generally) and you need to plug it in before booting up the gear. USB.... just plug in any time. (or someone please say if this is nonsense ;-) Otherwise I don't know of any great advantage either way. As to the HD, sometimes a larger size is less reliable ...but I've no idea if 2TB is pushing the limits in this case. Also, think about backing up your important music. At least, getting the external drive would make that possible. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 3 17:45:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22C6C183466; Mon, 3 Oct 2011 17:45:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; bh=M9YVFJ2cqPfNkkRMe9aXivwVR+Sch5tOLu3R2R/zl24=; b=c3zaX5GM2BgqG0fYm78Ayxn8a9X3mGy1+LVPSB8odmdJAuD8Ef9ixRGXz68r6Xa9pn 6A6msq2ahUjEGFhJ+1mRM4TG302eQB9VJ5UeyvKd5cNPkroxcCOPdt6wJ7BPP97fCAAt L2voQzLy7F+8LudC6DGa39jFS5scgF66ShbCA= Message-Id: From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-54315980 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: setting up Mac for audio - questions Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 10:45:32 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <8qziG.A.jPB.ATfiOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112128 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 17:45:36 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-54315980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Oct 3, 2011, at 9:01 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > would you just get a 1TB and get an external HD to store your files? That is what I do. > which one would you recommend or is faster, firewire or USB? could you > give me a link to professional reliable ones? Firewire is faster. There is a USB 3.0 that is fast. Regular USB should be fine. I tend to use Lacie drives. But Firewire appears to be an issue for you since: > the Imacs only have one FW800 port in the back where i already have my > RME FW800 plugged in > that means i would need a FW hub to plug the external HD,which one > would you recomend that have combinations of USBs and FW? I have personally often had problems with hubs. External drives or writers doing a lot of work prefer to be connected straight into the computer. Hubs seem to create a bit of a bottleneck for data flow with some devices. Sounds like USB may be the way to go if you have enough ports. Others more savvy will know. regards BobC http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j http://www.youtube.com/user/tynego --Apple-Mail-3-54315980 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Oct 3, 2011, = at 9:01 AM, Louie Angulo wrote:

would you = just get a 1TB and get an external HD to store your = files?

That is what I = do.


which one = would you recommend or is faster, firewire or USB? could you
give me = a link to professional reliable = ones?

Firewire is faster. There is = a USB 3.0 that is fast. Regular USB should be fine. I tend to use Lacie = drives.
But Firewire appears to be an issue for you = since:

the Imacs = only have one FW800 port in the back where i already have my
RME = FW800 plugged in
that means i would need a FW hub to plug the = external HD,which one
would you recomend  that have combinations = of USBs and FW?

I have personally = often had problems with hubs. External drives or writers doing a lot of = work prefer to be connected straight into the computer. Hubs seem to = create a bit of a bottleneck for data flow with some = devices.

Sounds like USB may be the way to go = if you have enough ports.

Others more savvy = will = know.

regards

BobC
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= --Apple-Mail-3-54315980-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 3 17:48:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F125218347A; Mon, 3 Oct 2011 17:48:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sdLny4tq8YZWr2mVmpGwYZroelNyEq9Xp2st2XW/NRQ=; b=rZOYBDe+s7a20l6zSK0EX5ciWunN4JQNHGTYrJp7ih2zQucOHGBVNBDpyfHkIbvTYM nbk/iG33taX7W415H8C/2UaE1TLLV9lsOqSJi/TGpTUWbo9ReINpZj7xVIdGvH7Ld7eV SA8dgtpVZZ4RU1rSsHvy48KZXZGZTeqVGxnco= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 18:48:35 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: setting up Mac for audio - questions From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <_OFBM.A.WYB.0VfiOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112129 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 17:48:36 +0000 (UTC) if the new imac has a thunderbolt port, then get a thunderbolt drive as your external - 10Gb/s! On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 6:45 PM, RP Collier wrote: > > On Oct 3, 2011, at 9:01 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > > would you just get a 1TB and get an external HD to store your files? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 3 17:57:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8A0D183478; Mon, 3 Oct 2011 17:57:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 671828055/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.178.24/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.178.24 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtACAFr3iU5V0rIY/2dsb2JhbAAMNpkzjFmETwEBAQMBOEAGCwsYCRYPCQMCAQIBRRwBh3e4XIchBJhzjCw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.68,480,1312153200"; d="scan'208";a="671828055" Message-ID: <4E89F79E.4010101@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 18:57:50 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: morphing sounds was LOOPING a DRY CLEANING SHOP References: <4E827A41.1020001@cruzio.com> <4E877CCE.3040508@googlemail.com> <4E880F2F.8030300@tiscali.co.uk> <4E88BFC3.8080008@googlemail.com> <4E88CA81.4090406@tiscali.co.uk> <4E89EA7B.9030208@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4E89EA7B.9030208@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112130 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 17:57:45 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Straschill wrote: > Am 02.10.2011 22:33, schrieb andy butler: >> With that definition of linear I don't think it's possible to change >> any sound into any other. ...can't create frequencies not present in >> the source signal. > However, if the condition of time-invariance does not hold right, that's the nitpick. "every linear system can be seen as a combination of delays, adders and amplifiers" is only true if time invariance does hold. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 3 18:15:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6239183478; Mon, 3 Oct 2011 18:15:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=i0lLPf7QlDgnDG2LgmKmhDc1AuEMp08EEFSp2FjAACs=; b=KYWRoM4ceiXjOFAjT6ne/FZgs6s4YEnI2e50im15fBtLoqRwJQAXii94E8dn6YoFU0 3beAHz7/9GimbXopPZyeO0mDlvF6dchT5u8JKuW4ZNhnqufu0JJDdjJoveMXckVNP09p Yaxofwlq8s5q4kH5tTdJiyLy1sXibZ75KbAQg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 20:15:42 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: setting up Mac for audio - questions From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112131 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 18:15:43 +0000 (UTC) Per could you elaborate? you mean using the second FW in the back of the RME to daisy chain the external FW HD? On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Firewire can be daisy-chained. Thus no need for a hub. Avoid USB for > audio if possible (USB data transmission capacity flutter with varying > CPU load). > > It's more safe to use extra drives for your project recordings. Best > is two drives, where you copy files to keep them identical. This > serves two causes: you back up your work and you never have to suffer > downtime to defrag the work dirves (given you reformat a drive before > copying all work files to it). > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > > > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> Hello people, >> im going to be aupgrading from the dual core 21" imac to the 27" quad >> core for audio recording purposes. >> The thing i need to consider before buying is: >> would it be better to get it with the 2TB HD than the 1TB? >> would you then partition the 2TB in two and put all of your software >> in one and your recordings into the second partition? >> or would you just get a 1TB and get an external HD to store your files? >> which one would you recommend or is faster, firewire or USB? could you >> give me a link to professional reliable ones? >> the Imacs only have one FW800 port in the back where i already have my >> RME FW800 plugged in >> that means i would need a FW hub to plug the external HD,which one >> would you recomend =A0that have combinations of USBs and FW? >> so far ive found this one : >> >> http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=3D199941 >> >> thanx for your help! >> cheers >> Luis >> >> >> >> -- >> www.luis-angulo.com >> >> > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 3 18:16:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FD86183478; Mon, 3 Oct 2011 18:16:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=4zd3cWtOdbKmsXAYSvw7Bfkr5LpQERgKj5uuYwiTeBQ=; b=cKMaYLgCdfngvamsMmgjPXL2IBPMcIKW9g9C2Qv5bJ+G6gi8CUvA2limA/BV5djAwT MbI99O3k6/2ACJVjobyKEIPuQ9OHElQ2gYBBWbsWQG/C4YY2eb2yTyLiF9FeTeV3tEa4 cbrlA+AHaf5+YgfdlWIlwevh5ra93goQhSnIU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 20:16:38 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: setting up Mac for audio - questions From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112132 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 18:16:38 +0000 (UTC) Simeon thanx man,didnt think of that one and didnt exactly know what thunderbolt was for,makes sense! cheers Luis On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > if the new imac has a thunderbolt port, then get a thunderbolt drive > as your external - 10Gb/s! > > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 6:45 PM, RP Collier wrote: >> >> On Oct 3, 2011, at 9:01 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: >> >> would you just get a 1TB and get an external HD to store your files? > > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 3 18:23:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 936B1183473; Mon, 3 Oct 2011 18:23:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=BtTlto926Oq0Juw+KbmjbjMqWUXMeI6J2F9uznNID0w=; b=sUaMm3uOtUC6eBCvTRkoF43ZJrCOBMDPWvC/GdQt60j29c+o+I8yuxbVwESRoPWTVS aMxh9gV1j33Zlm9QtLVRUnYyo+JzZxDPOcts/emjA/9VuQ5nbBF2SprEzSBO/exQ9Ral FaOQFymlsTsbOtr1hgq5rXxDpxJYlzd6wL5Lk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 20:22:58 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: setting up Mac for audio - questions From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112133 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 18:23:00 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Per could you elaborate? you mean using the second FW in the back of > the RME to daisy chain the external FW HD? Yes. I've seen that done in many studios and I sometimes have three devices here on a FW line with no problems (audio interface + HD1 + HD2). Check if you can use Thunderbolt, as Sim mentioned. It's way faster. I didn't know there are already good drives available. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 3 18:30:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2263183478; Mon, 3 Oct 2011 18:30:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; bh=9orFdYn2hlgLYe8PoVH3cZpRCDxtH9OltANNxRRqzdY=; b=wpFtocQRU6Fx+ezyDJ7tlFvEPnkcOOG8OIUNiwQi5ov0zPKmkZq0Jc3v65Ff4Fo7+i qsnFQ+IGnPRVdf40GzzyYE8ZSHON6JWO+2rMrXGrq2r9kKaBM0UPgeplbLfiBoDMHf84 OsfAxi1+88IVS4UIOsgScGet+343vwDYNTAj4= Message-Id: <82F4D33D-9734-44D3-A4F3-47E9376463D8@gmail.com> From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5-56984442 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: setting up Mac for audio - questions Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:30:00 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112134 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 18:30:05 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5-56984442 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Oct 3, 2011, at 11:16 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: >> then get a thunderbolt drive >> as your external - 10Gb/s! > I agree with Per. Better to get several smaller drives as scratch and backup rather than one behemoth. Perhaps even a raid system. BobC http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j http://www.youtube.com/user/tynego --Apple-Mail-5-56984442 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Oct 3, 2011, = at 11:16 AM, Louie Angulo wrote:

 then get a thunderbolt = drive
as your external - = 10Gb/s!


I agree = with Per. Better to get several smaller drives as scratch and backup = rather than one behemoth.
Perhaps even a raid = system.

BobC

= --Apple-Mail-5-56984442-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 3 19:53:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E281F183473; Mon, 3 Oct 2011 19:53:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=pMVjQLDXFpYp0gKUxm/PhJyra1QAwFVRpolTJExzZl0=; b=ozXpO7PX5VhVQUfPqrfPv+pZ4oklWTK/6sTEOUi6v+ne8wM6Yy+g8AbW7Srz0kgaAX m5WEBFdFxrbp83fA+s8XPtShXV/xJRpaM4oWesB368bvv7fyrUOPYHKx05Jqo6TtvvYS emajC8F5PDzWSq3AowCJwBQ5yOdpHSb0/VgHc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <82F4D33D-9734-44D3-A4F3-47E9376463D8@gmail.com> References: <82F4D33D-9734-44D3-A4F3-47E9376463D8@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 21:53:44 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: setting up Mac for audio - questions From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112135 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 19:53:45 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 8:30 PM, RP Collier wrote: > I agree with Per. Better to get several smaller drives as scratch and backup > rather than one behemoth. > Perhaps even a raid system. Raid is fast but can be dangerous. You need dedicated backing up strategy for a raid system to secure data in case it breaks down. But isn't today's computers fast enough to allow avoiding raid? I haven't seen much discussion on raid studio systems in the last years, seems it used to be more common back in the days. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 3 19:55:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A23F183466; Mon, 3 Oct 2011 19:55:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lzjKU3i32ZAzjwGdZZjyGYGyNyKd7qOdThn3p9YetVI=; b=iFCyZ6fBlwFVdRwsPhRWuFC7o69iG2fKdpX4NUeuep9CL94EpoIPqhk8y/MVseEto/ o0fCeHvCzwvBTNHLxSAmiTfzMJxx9TOhsTBm2iG316mLMCzhPhns34/tODS53z51whXI IprwhEvBmiNgRiiYV5J1a6ojcPQ15bg5bmZQs= Message-ID: <4E8A1284.4020908@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 21:52:36 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9.2.22) Gecko/20110902 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.14 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: morphing sounds was LOOPING a DRY CLEANING SHOP References: <4E827A41.1020001@cruzio.com> <4E877CCE.3040508@googlemail.com> <4E880F2F.8030300@tiscali.co.uk> <4E88BFC3.8080008@googlemail.com> <4E88CA81.4090406@tiscali.co.uk> <4E89EA7B.9030208@googlemail.com> <4E89F79E.4010101@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4E89F79E.4010101@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112136 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 19:55:15 +0000 (UTC) Am 03.10.2011 19:57, schrieb andy butler: > > "every linear system can be seen as a combination of delays, adders > and amplifiers" > is only true if time invariance does hold. As usual, you nitpicked right; I stand corrected and rephrase. "Every linar system can be seen as a combination of delays, adders and amplifiers, and in case of time-variant systems, control signal sources which can affect the parameters of the delays and amplifiers." (the adders being seen as trivial). (I once had this discussion with a teacher at university - Prof. Terhard, some of you might be familiar with him, e.g. for the concept of virtual pitch - where I claimed that every time-variant system can be seen as a time-invariant system with additional input ports for the control signals. However, this in generality turns a linear system into a nonlinear one, and the whole discussion moot. Luckily, I discovered that before him ;). Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 3 21:15:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2948B183473; Mon, 3 Oct 2011 21:15:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; bh=8UlBqHEFZ6BuF2a2cAsbNP4NzvUfp287KqJPCnX+MsU=; b=GFUY1Ss7orU8koYX1opo3LTA7Wdnu7tiGYabHRIMzW7UMtZqr51Y3PcO1WmE14Eyb/ XSZ/Dcud3JmwW8ohNMDRykdHexrvvrHXWMpGzbb0BT5gH1dlnM0RsRIFsCMZbYqWrGLp szw3HEfhSn/Gv2i1Eux/cNuIiqvx89WSpuVYc= Message-Id: From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6-66883536 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: setting up Mac for audio - questions Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 14:14:59 -0700 References: <82F4D33D-9734-44D3-A4F3-47E9376463D8@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112137 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 21:15:04 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6-66883536 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Oct 3, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > But > isn't today's computers fast enough to allow avoiding raid? I haven't > seen much discussion on raid studio systems in the last years, seems > it used to be more common back in the days. Yes, I guess I was misusing the term. I wasn't thinking so much of dedicated mirroring, striping, and splitting where the Raid is read as a unified drive. I was mainly thinking of the redundancy of backup: >>to reinvent the term to describe a redundant array of independent disks as a means of dissociating a low-cost expectation from RAID technology.<< from Wiki If you type in Raid at Sweetwater you get a bunch of stuff by Glyph but I was thinking more along the lines of this: http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Drobo/ The way I work now is one 1TB FW drive as the scratch recording disk, a 1TB FW disk for Time Machine for system backups, and 1 more TB USB drive and three 500GB USB drives that are used to store copies of project files. If working on a project at least one of the backup drives gets stored offsite. regards BobC http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j http://www.youtube.com/user/tynego --Apple-Mail-6-66883536 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Oct 3, 2011, = at 12:53 PM, Per Boysen wrote:

 But
isn't today's = computers fast enough to allow avoiding raid? I haven't
seen much = discussion on raid studio systems in the last years, seems
it used to = be more common back in the = days.


Yes, I guess I = was misusing the term. I wasn't thinking so much of dedicated mirroring, = striping, and splitting where the Raid is read as a unified = drive.
I was mainly thinking of the redundancy of = backup:
>>to reinvent = the term to describe a  as a means of dissociating a low-cost = expectation from RAID technology.<< from = Wiki
http://www.sweetwat= er.com/store/detail/Drobo/

The way I work = now is one 1TB FW drive as the scratch recording disk, a 1TB FW disk for = Time Machine for system backups, and 1 more TB USB drive and three 500GB = USB drives that are used to store copies of project files. If working on = a project at least one of the backup drives gets stored = offsite.

regards


= --Apple-Mail-6-66883536-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 3 21:29:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 134B9183473; Mon, 3 Oct 2011 21:29:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 03 Oct 2011 21:29:53 UTC Message-ID: <06A15CD3113E476388329E114D591DC2@itowork2> From: "Ingo Ito" To: References: Subject: Re: Multiple instruments to one effect rack/pedal board? Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 23:23:04 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0142_01CC8223.667D84B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112138 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 21:29:53 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0142_01CC8223.667D84B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Marcus, you might want to take a look at this pedal: http://www.lehle.com/frameset.php?country=3Dus&lang=3Den it=B4s very high quality and offers many connecting possibilities to run = up to 3 instruments into one pedalbord. Cheers Ingo Ingo Ito www.itofarm.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: marcus kirby=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 7:23 PM Subject: Multiple instruments to one effect rack/pedal board? I have a pretty solid pedal board going for my ambient/experimental = stuff. I usually just run guitar through it, but I was wondering if it = was possible to run multiple instruments into one board? Running my board in the aux of a mixer sounds ideal, but I only two = auxes and need to put my loopers somewhere. I would like to run my synth/vox/guitar/drums into the board. Is this = even possible to do? ------=_NextPart_000_0142_01CC8223.667D84B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Marcus,
 
you might want to take a look at this=20 pedal:
 
htt= p://www.lehle.com/frameset.php?country=3Dus&lang=3Den
 
it=B4s very high quality and offers many = connecting=20 possibilities to run up to 3 instruments into one = pedalbord.
 
Cheers
 
Ingo
 
 
Ingo Ito
www.itofarm.com
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 marcus=20 kirby
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Thursday, September 29, = 2011 7:23=20 PM
Subject: Multiple instruments = to one=20 effect rack/pedal board?

I have a pretty solid pedal board going for my=20 ambient/experimental stuff. I usually just run guitar through it, but = I was=20 wondering if it was possible to run multiple instruments into one = board?

Running my board in the aux of a mixer sounds ideal, but I only = two auxes=20 and need to put my loopers somewhere.

I would like to run my synth/vox/guitar/drums into the board. Is = this=20 even possible to do?
------=_NextPart_000_0142_01CC8223.667D84B0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 3 22:39:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B118D18347A; Mon, 3 Oct 2011 22:39:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=zSs+5U+ZjoxhJKhv29/VxWpU3LwFuaUInAaxJ9M92Nk=; b=shyRvdNOHh4KMiGCvm4o1Yj9MpWHJt/RGS2RmblFyZet2PBvLZl+x0YEOm8gl2Jb7Z kuENEScaqYBXLUPdvsFx93gX1T6sIDhP4fADqG003YYNhxxMA9U/Q0fPKuHw5U8wtK+O qdUhddivMzgF/ZWpdeztPu11xVceTYyxFR3u4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <82F4D33D-9734-44D3-A4F3-47E9376463D8@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 00:39:05 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: setting up Mac for audio - questions From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112139 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 22:39:06 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 11:14 PM, RP Collier wrote: > If you type in Raid at Sweetwater you get a bunch of stuff by Glyph but I > was thinking more along the lines of this: > http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Drobo/ Woah, that Drobo looks like a good thing! I'm manually juggling three simultaneous external 500GB now but as I'm looking into a more busy recording-on-demand schedule in a near future I might get something like that to ensure no work time loss if disc failure hits. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 3 22:51:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B64B183473; Mon, 3 Oct 2011 22:51:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TkApJy7Fmzq77ZusaHctXgb+QLcEOgMMxfHL0Lr/Pc8=; b=eP9TcdOUBmaB1nL5DcBTTD58jGBHfxHlRwuX+8cdFrkySKWKgiA7OrupmfhxDHdckL PkQLSaJcm1UfNlbP/aybR8q4C0hFRzjlO6MxJ2HD6zWvBZ9ZaRumpIZ6qOGhnVZwlUeO B0o2SlcRQ9s9ig5Y732mpL+mGc5x99FC8eySs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <82F4D33D-9734-44D3-A4F3-47E9376463D8@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 16:51:37 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: setting up Mac for audio - questions From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <9kqjSD.A.12G.6xjiOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112140 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 22:51:38 +0000 (UTC) They've been mentioned here before, but I'm mentioning them again: http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/firewire/ Scroll down to see some serious storage and backup solutions. I just set up an 8TB concatenated disk and RAID setup this last week with drives from them. (8TB concatenated volume =97 2x 4TB =97 connected to a RAID1 8 TB array, that is then networked to even larger drive arrays.) Wicked fast, using Carbon Copy Cloner to handle the tasks of automating the backups. Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 11:14 PM, RP Collier wrot= e: >> If you type in Raid at Sweetwater you get a bunch of stuff by Glyph but = I >> was thinking more along the lines of this: >> http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Drobo/ > > > Woah, that Drobo looks like a good thing! I'm manually juggling three > simultaneous external 500GB now but as I'm looking into a more busy > recording-on-demand schedule in a near future I might get something > like that to ensure no work time loss if disc failure hits. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 3 22:52:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50850183464; Mon, 3 Oct 2011 22:52:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=AUPCDpRkpLyHipiopu0Q6lrhilff+Y0jDIAgsR4Ac7s=; b=r/wjkHSUwJS1lxeZgDeY5C8qekknHe20roV0eJ8pIpbCTkPeN4nqkFbIgXUunN58oT AYd/J965ovKXBgkdw2fPep8m0pYFSsDnnjxHD4mb/xVLeYhRfTVKE661rM5LVsWW9vZ2 YINjIpoViZrVpOT7jOv50QAqP+kzCvihIEOV8= MIME-Version: 1.0 From: todd reynolds Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 18:51:27 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Steve Reich at 75 To: "Looper's Delight" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151744845408dc5a04ae6cd3ad Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112141 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 22:52:08 +0000 (UTC) --00151744845408dc5a04ae6cd3ad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi my looping brethren. Since there's oft conversation about Steve Reich here, I thought I'd post this link for y'all. NPR Music got a few of us together to write some personal reflections on the man and his music on the occasion of his 75th Birthday today. Some nice audio snippets for streaming as well. http://www.npr.org/2011/10/03/140951516/steve-reich-music-we-love All the best to you all. Todd -- --00151744845408dc5a04ae6cd3ad Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi my looping brethren. =A0

Since there's oft conver= sation about Steve Reich here, I thought I'd post this link for y'a= ll. =A0

NPR Music got a few of us together to writ= e some personal reflections on=A0the man and his music on the occasion of h= is 75th Birthday today. Some nice audio snippets for streaming as well.=A0<= /div>


All the best to you all.=A0

Todd

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--00151744845408dc5a04ae6cd3ad-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 3 22:52:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4ABE18348C; Mon, 3 Oct 2011 22:52:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1918 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 03 Oct 2011 22:52:32 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=pCpHEqVUy+qgKhc6GpRYALjrZm++s93dzfPC3xJBQd0= c=1 sm=2 a=8oFGOTU6dLoA:10 a=agWTFdhlyG4A:10 a=9awzleECAAAA:8 a=3qZHA8CdAAAA:8 a=kZCaSYHnAAAA:8 a=x9LQtntrAAAA:8 a=paUis6ZMAAAA:8 a=dMZfGW12AAAA:8 a=8h2tVM2zAAAA:8 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=K-hqo1DrAAAA:8 a=kVobe2OVAAAA:8 a=WvUN6kJ9aEThWFzslQIA:9 a=8zQJnLOAW3orfTFZThoA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=2_Z-OvF4DAgA:10 a=9dKDUTTeGJsA:10 a=k9XOtJXmrMMA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=5QWQW483tI_cGRyl:21 a=9SU484qDsCE09s3g:21 a=0Lt7SXUBh4nxEFRf2bAA:9 a=-H3AVHie-rXUFxLSa00A:7 X-Telus-Outbound-IP: 64.180.193.124 From: richard sales Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-70813278 Subject: Re: setting up Mac for audio - questions Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 15:20:29 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112142 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 22:52:32 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-70813278 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yea, all audio on a separate drive, all virtual instruments are SUPPOSED = TO BE on yet another separate drive. Firewire works great for me! I've = done some very high track count sessions without blip. I've heard the new USB is faster. Don't know how robust it is.=20 And Drobo (an external modified raid) is THE BOMB for backup. I have = 7TB in mine right now and will upgrade to 10 TB soon. They're very slow = to set up, slow (as in days sometimes) when installing new drives, but = once set up, they're great for backup (use Time Machine). Then I have a = Newer Technologies Voyager for second backup. I take the old drives out = of the Drobo when they get upgraded and use them in the Voyager for = second backup. Voyager is just like a socket you plug different drives = into as needed. In lieu of a Drobo, I'd at least get a Voyager and a = bunch of 1 or 2 TB raw internal drives to plug into it when needed.=20 Drobo is great because, if a drive fails, you just plug in a new one. = No data lost. I use the cheap WD green Caviar drives. Slow but, again, = great for safety.=20 www.drobo.com Buy 'em at Egghead or wherever.=20 One drawback: the more HDs you have hanging on Firewire (etc), the = slower the startup. =20 Every time I've done a partition, I've regretted it. I'm sure YMMV. Other World Computing makes great drives for recording. Guaranteed for = three years or so.=20 = http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/firewire/1394/USB/EliteAL/eSATA_FW800_FW400= _USB LaCie is also good. I think they might cost more.=20 I usually buy raw drives from Tiger Direct. Haven't shopped a whole = lot, though. R richard sales www.glasswing.com www.hayleysales.com On Oct 3, 2011, at 10:41 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Firewire can be daisy-chained. Thus no need for a hub. Avoid USB for > audio if possible (USB data transmission capacity flutter with varying > CPU load). >=20 > It's more safe to use extra drives for your project recordings. Best > is two drives, where you copy files to keep them identical. This > serves two causes: you back up your work and you never have to suffer > downtime to defrag the work dirves (given you reformat a drive before > copying all work files to it). >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> Hello people, >> im going to be aupgrading from the dual core 21" imac to the 27" quad >> core for audio recording purposes. >> The thing i need to consider before buying is: >> would it be better to get it with the 2TB HD than the 1TB? >> would you then partition the 2TB in two and put all of your software >> in one and your recordings into the second partition? >> or would you just get a 1TB and get an external HD to store your = files? >> which one would you recommend or is faster, firewire or USB? could = you >> give me a link to professional reliable ones? >> the Imacs only have one FW800 port in the back where i already have = my >> RME FW800 plugged in >> that means i would need a FW hub to plug the external HD,which one >> would you recomend that have combinations of USBs and FW? >> so far ive found this one : >>=20 >> http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=3D199941 >>=20 >> thanx for your help! >> cheers >> Luis >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> -- >> www.luis-angulo.com >>=20 >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-1-70813278 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Yea, = all audio on a separate drive, all virtual instruments are SUPPOSED TO = BE on yet another separate drive. Firewire works great for me! =  I've done some very high track count sessions without = blip.

I've heard the new USB is faster.  Don't = know how robust it is. 

And Drobo (an = external modified raid) is THE BOMB for backup.  I have 7TB in mine = right now and will upgrade to 10 TB soon.  They're very slow to set = up, slow (as in days sometimes) when installing new drives, but once set = up, they're great for backup (use Time Machine).  Then I have a = Newer Technologies Voyager for second backup.  I take the old = drives out of the Drobo when they get upgraded and use them in the = Voyager for second backup.  Voyager is just like a socket you plug = different drives into as needed.  In lieu of a Drobo, I'd at least = get a Voyager and a bunch of 1 or 2 TB raw internal drives to plug into = it when needed. 

Drobo is great because, = if a drive fails, you just plug in a new one.  No data lost. =  I use the cheap WD green Caviar drives.  Slow but, again, = great for safety. 


B= uy 'em at Egghead or wherever. 

One = drawback: the more HDs you have hanging on Firewire (etc), the slower = the startup.  

Every time I've done a = partition, I've regretted it.  I'm sure = YMMV.

Other World Computing makes great drives = for recording.  Guaranteed for three years or = so. 


LaCie is also good. =  I think they might cost more. 

I = usually buy raw drives from Tiger Direct.  Haven't shopped a whole = lot, though.
R

richard sales
<= font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38">www.hayleysales.com












On Oct 3, 2011, at 10:41 AM, Per Boysen wrote:

Firewire can be daisy-chained. Thus no need for a = hub. Avoid USB for
audio if possible (USB data transmission capacity = flutter with varying
CPU load).

It's more safe to use extra = drives for your project recordings. Best
is two drives, where you = copy files to keep them identical. This
serves two causes: you back = up your work and you never have to suffer
downtime to defrag the work = dirves (given you reformat a drive before
copying all work files to = it).

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
ww= w.looproom.com internet music hub



On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at = 6:01 PM, Louie Angulo
<louie.angulo@googlemail.com> = wrote:
Hello = people,
im going to be = aupgrading from the dual core 21" imac to the 27" = quad
core for audio recording = purposes.
The thing i need to = consider before buying is:
would= it be better to get it with the 2TB HD than the = 1TB?
would you then partition = the 2TB in two and put all of your software
in one and your recordings into the second = partition?
or would you just = get a 1TB and get an external HD to store your = files?
which one would you = recommend or is faster, firewire or USB? could = you
give me a link to = professional reliable ones?
the = Imacs only have one FW800 port in the back where i already have = my
RME FW800 plugged = in
that means i would need a = FW hub to plug the external HD,which one
would you recomend  that have combinations of USBs = and FW?
so far ive found this = one :

http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=3D= 199941

thanx for your = help!
cheers
Luis



--
www.luis-angulo.com




= --Apple-Mail-1-70813278-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 3 23:35:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 098EB183463; Mon, 3 Oct 2011 23:35:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gTK2ua7k24SPxb8nD4dvKoYIOqO+tNN34n0fcNyn5CE=; b=GSPGWRsLCgQ/GSgHrBT5uThYhiRjrX4DwZX5JMRtLpPhwAiXhldnK2uDKG51HKEA0M QHBfB7Ri67qsD/wfkwesEYbxB3+Xk5Ml6eLcctBpOlvvsDhBUIZ5ZNMj1A/6aato2KXe csUazdgQTGYVoNGTH6cRHzYcuN8hJM9WMK6Mc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 01:35:25 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: setting up Mac for audio - questions From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112143 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 23:35:25 +0000 (UTC) i know Time capsule is not FW,though it has ethernet and USB instead and now up to 3TB of space,i believe so would you recomend it and would it be fast in combination with logic to access all the installed Native libraries in it for example? cheers Luis On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 12:20 AM, richard sales wrot= e: > Yea, all audio on a separate drive, all virtual instruments are SUPPOSED = TO > BE on yet another separate drive. Firewire works great for me! =A0I've do= ne > some very high track count sessions without blip. > I've heard the new USB is faster. =A0Don't know how robust it is. > > And Drobo (an external modified raid) is THE BOMB for backup. =A0I have 7= TB in > mine right now and will upgrade to 10 TB soon. =A0They're very slow to se= t up, > slow (as in days sometimes) when installing new drives, but once set up, > they're great for backup (use Time Machine). =A0Then I have a Newer > Technologies Voyager for second backup. =A0I take the old drives out of t= he > Drobo when they get upgraded and use them in the Voyager for second backu= p. > =A0Voyager is just like a socket you plug different drives into as needed= . =A0In > lieu of a Drobo, I'd at least get a Voyager and a bunch of 1 or 2 TB raw > internal drives to plug into it when needed. > Drobo is great because, if a drive fails, you just plug in a new one. =A0= No > data lost. =A0I use the cheap WD green Caviar drives. =A0Slow but, again,= great > for safety. > www.drobo.com > Buy 'em at Egghead or wherever. > One drawback: the more HDs you have hanging on Firewire (etc), the slower > the startup. > Every time I've done a partition, I've regretted it. =A0I'm sure YMMV. > Other World Computing makes great drives for recording. =A0Guaranteed for > three years or so. > http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/firewire/1394/USB/EliteAL/eSATA_FW800_FW40= 0_USB > LaCie is also good. =A0I think they might cost more. > I usually buy raw drives from Tiger Direct. =A0Haven't shopped a whole lo= t, > though. > R > richard sales > www.glasswing.com > www.hayleysales.com > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 3, 2011, at 10:41 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > > Firewire can be daisy-chained. Thus no need for a hub. Avoid USB for > audio if possible (USB data transmission capacity flutter with varying > CPU load). > > It's more safe to use extra drives for your project recordings. Best > is two drives, where you copy files to keep them identical. This > serves two causes: you back up your work and you never have to suffer > downtime to defrag the work dirves (given you reformat a drive before > copying all work files to it). > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > > > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Louie Angulo > wrote: > > Hello people, > > im going to be aupgrading from the dual core 21" imac to the 27" quad > > core for audio recording purposes. > > The thing i need to consider before buying is: > > would it be better to get it with the 2TB HD than the 1TB? > > would you then partition the 2TB in two and put all of your software > > in one and your recordings into the second partition? > > or would you just get a 1TB and get an external HD to store your files? > > which one would you recommend or is faster, firewire or USB? could you > > give me a link to professional reliable ones? > > the Imacs only have one FW800 port in the back where i already have my > > RME FW800 plugged in > > that means i would need a FW hub to plug the external HD,which one > > would you recomend =A0that have combinations of USBs and FW? > > so far ive found this one : > > http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=3D199941 > > thanx for your help! > > cheers > > Luis > > > > -- > > www.luis-angulo.com > > > > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 3 23:37:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A23EE18348B; Mon, 3 Oct 2011 23:37:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E8A474F.7030508@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 16:37:51 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110920 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Re: LOOPING a DRY CLEANING SHOP References: <4E877CCE.3040508@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4E877CCE.3040508@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112144 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 23:37:59 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > *: linear processing means - in building blocks of the digital domain > - a combination of adders, amplifiers and the hallowed delays > (Richardson). Every sound has some sine wave hidden in it (Fourier). > Now using your building blocks, build a filter and get one sine wave > from your source sound. Feed that into a delay, then into other delays > which you then modulate, and modulating amplifiers after them, you can > do additive synthesis. And if you just use enough delays, the result > becomes as close to the thing you want it to sound like as you care > (Fourier again). This reminds me of the humorous anecdote I heard about Aphex Twin. Some really big band (like Depeche Mode but not necessarily them) sent him all their tracks because he was the 'it' guy in remixing at the time. He didn't like the song at all, so he double the speed of the song while retaining it's original pitch and then repeated this process over and over and over until he used the entire song as a back beat sound; wrote his own track using it and put it out as the 'remix'. I heard they paid him a lot of money , too. LOL, he had a history of this.......before he was really famous, Trent Reznor sent him tracks to remix for the Further Down the Spiral EP. Again, Aphex Twin (aka Richard James) didn't resonate with the tracks and just sent him back one of his own tracks instead. Reznor loved it so much that he just put it out on the remix album. Paranethetically, my own roady at the time, Sue Cole was a huge Reznor fan and was always playing me obscure EPs and mixes when we would have long drives to SF for gigs. She played that song for me and it changed my whole life. Literally, as soon as I could afford a PC computer I went out, bought one and jumped into the beautiful world of digital sound design. I hear Rainer when he decries that anything can be manipulated, digitally, rendering it, essentially boring, but I still think that there are very, very beautiful (and disturbing as well) things that can be created by either synthesizing sounds from scratch or manipulating sounds so that they take on entirely new musical context. I think it's easy to become technically jaded because so much is possible, but there is much beauty left in our digital and acoustic world and in their potential mixing. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 4 00:13:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2112A183462; Tue, 4 Oct 2011 00:13:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ugnnIc5i6dFprXMOmLj0nLoP8UtuhmoPYV0xxNUAPhk=; b=nDL1EokHdI7djCjKiXUCLFF0JWxVCLeweLnoGXgj3NBoMbbTa5z3w66fsx156l8ZwV 7fG7+v0v26Bn18+WJM4uxUJCrUD0TJlw4kfkmccQMU9UoQyEkpYFh+O+4pBRrQ9MrYUU 3Kx9ebzS1fAzSDUw7D6CMc8qBwhXo5vTIbcpc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 02:13:04 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: setting up Mac for audio - questions From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112145 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 00:13:07 +0000 (UTC) and by the way folks,would you recomend me do a fresh reinstall of everything in my new imac or would you use a program like carbon clone to save time and copy everything to my imac? bear in mind that the old one has OSX leopard and the new one i believe come with OSX lion has anybody done this? On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > i know Time capsule is not FW,though it has ethernet and USB instead > and now up to 3TB of space,i believe > so would you recomend it and would it be fast in combination with > logic to access all the installed Native libraries in it for example? > cheers > Luis > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 12:20 AM, richard sales wr= ote: >> Yea, all audio on a separate drive, all virtual instruments are SUPPOSED= TO >> BE on yet another separate drive. Firewire works great for me! =A0I've d= one >> some very high track count sessions without blip. >> I've heard the new USB is faster. =A0Don't know how robust it is. >> >> And Drobo (an external modified raid) is THE BOMB for backup. =A0I have = 7TB in >> mine right now and will upgrade to 10 TB soon. =A0They're very slow to s= et up, >> slow (as in days sometimes) when installing new drives, but once set up, >> they're great for backup (use Time Machine). =A0Then I have a Newer >> Technologies Voyager for second backup. =A0I take the old drives out of = the >> Drobo when they get upgraded and use them in the Voyager for second back= up. >> =A0Voyager is just like a socket you plug different drives into as neede= d. =A0In >> lieu of a Drobo, I'd at least get a Voyager and a bunch of 1 or 2 TB raw >> internal drives to plug into it when needed. >> Drobo is great because, if a drive fails, you just plug in a new one. = =A0No >> data lost. =A0I use the cheap WD green Caviar drives. =A0Slow but, again= , great >> for safety. >> www.drobo.com >> Buy 'em at Egghead or wherever. >> One drawback: the more HDs you have hanging on Firewire (etc), the slowe= r >> the startup. >> Every time I've done a partition, I've regretted it. =A0I'm sure YMMV. >> Other World Computing makes great drives for recording. =A0Guaranteed fo= r >> three years or so. >> http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/firewire/1394/USB/EliteAL/eSATA_FW800_FW4= 00_USB >> LaCie is also good. =A0I think they might cost more. >> I usually buy raw drives from Tiger Direct. =A0Haven't shopped a whole l= ot, >> though. >> R >> richard sales >> www.glasswing.com >> www.hayleysales.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 3, 2011, at 10:41 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> Firewire can be daisy-chained. Thus no need for a hub. Avoid USB for >> audio if possible (USB data transmission capacity flutter with varying >> CPU load). >> >> It's more safe to use extra drives for your project recordings. Best >> is two drives, where you copy files to keep them identical. This >> serves two causes: you back up your work and you never have to suffer >> downtime to defrag the work dirves (given you reformat a drive before >> copying all work files to it). >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> www.looproom.com internet music hub >> >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Louie Angulo >> wrote: >> >> Hello people, >> >> im going to be aupgrading from the dual core 21" imac to the 27" quad >> >> core for audio recording purposes. >> >> The thing i need to consider before buying is: >> >> would it be better to get it with the 2TB HD than the 1TB? >> >> would you then partition the 2TB in two and put all of your software >> >> in one and your recordings into the second partition? >> >> or would you just get a 1TB and get an external HD to store your files? >> >> which one would you recommend or is faster, firewire or USB? could you >> >> give me a link to professional reliable ones? >> >> the Imacs only have one FW800 port in the back where i already have my >> >> RME FW800 plugged in >> >> that means i would need a FW hub to plug the external HD,which one >> >> would you recomend =A0that have combinations of USBs and FW? >> >> so far ive found this one : >> >> http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=3D199941 >> >> thanx for your help! >> >> cheers >> >> Luis >> >> >> >> -- >> >> www.luis-angulo.com >> >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > www.luis-angulo.com > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 4 00:45:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36483183473; Tue, 4 Oct 2011 00:45:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=pjcd1lS2KPuSe9ij5R8W8Nsj0liX0B3+d1U/xgYfuTg=; b=bhsHCJtv39tQNStbnyxylTjO1nMqIyMZLwgTfreduZPRXvgKZR8yZT8AeoMOII2CEo 1d6raJmA51l/mIzqEKE2L33O7gtvDHnNGAIm+FG0s/ppBvx2YyiAXWJM+OIfLQpLCZN6 /QIQLLGbRU20Q+Zj+4KNqyYy5VF6gtcToZ5iE= References: From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 01:44:47 +0100 Message-ID: <8534221254143249620@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: setting up Mac for audio - questions To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <3e_v5D.A.00.McliOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112146 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 00:45:00 +0000 (UTC) did it last week. if you have a time machine backup of the old mac, just plug it in to the new mac and turn it on... worked for me... like a dream.. same as old mac now with added Lion!!!! Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 4 Oct 2011, at 01:13, Louie Angulo wrote: > and by the way folks,would you recomend me do a fresh reinstall of > everything in my new imac or would you use a program like carbon clone > to save time and copy everything to my imac? bear in mind that the old > one has OSX leopard and the new one i believe come with OSX lion > has anybody done this? > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> i know Time capsule is not FW,though it has ethernet and USB instead >> and now up to 3TB of space,i believe >> so would you recomend it and would it be fast in combination with >> logic to access all the installed Native libraries in it for example? >> cheers >> Luis >> >> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 12:20 AM, richard sales wrote: >>> Yea, all audio on a separate drive, all virtual instruments are SUPPOSED TO >>> BE on yet another separate drive. Firewire works great for me! I've done >>> some very high track count sessions without blip. >>> I've heard the new USB is faster. Don't know how robust it is. >>> >>> And Drobo (an external modified raid) is THE BOMB for backup. I have 7TB in >>> mine right now and will upgrade to 10 TB soon. They're very slow to set up, >>> slow (as in days sometimes) when installing new drives, but once set up, >>> they're great for backup (use Time Machine). Then I have a Newer >>> Technologies Voyager for second backup. I take the old drives out of the >>> Drobo when they get upgraded and use them in the Voyager for second backup. >>> Voyager is just like a socket you plug different drives into as needed. In >>> lieu of a Drobo, I'd at least get a Voyager and a bunch of 1 or 2 TB raw >>> internal drives to plug into it when needed. >>> Drobo is great because, if a drive fails, you just plug in a new one. No >>> data lost. I use the cheap WD green Caviar drives. Slow but, again, great >>> for safety. >>> www.drobo.com >>> Buy 'em at Egghead or wherever. >>> One drawback: the more HDs you have hanging on Firewire (etc), the slower >>> the startup. >>> Every time I've done a partition, I've regretted it. I'm sure YMMV. >>> Other World Computing makes great drives for recording. Guaranteed for >>> three years or so. >>> http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/firewire/1394/USB/EliteAL/eSATA_FW800_FW400_USB >>> LaCie is also good. I think they might cost more. >>> I usually buy raw drives from Tiger Direct. Haven't shopped a whole lot, >>> though. >>> R >>> richard sales >>> www.glasswing.com >>> www.hayleysales.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 3, 2011, at 10:41 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >>> >>> Firewire can be daisy-chained. Thus no need for a hub. Avoid USB for >>> audio if possible (USB data transmission capacity flutter with varying >>> CPU load). >>> >>> It's more safe to use extra drives for your project recordings. Best >>> is two drives, where you copy files to keep them identical. This >>> serves two causes: you back up your work and you never have to suffer >>> downtime to defrag the work dirves (given you reformat a drive before >>> copying all work files to it). >>> >>> Greetings from Sweden >>> >>> Per Boysen >>> www.boysen.se >>> www.perboysen.com >>> www.looproom.com internet music hub >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Louie Angulo >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello people, >>> >>> im going to be aupgrading from the dual core 21" imac to the 27" quad >>> >>> core for audio recording purposes. >>> >>> The thing i need to consider before buying is: >>> >>> would it be better to get it with the 2TB HD than the 1TB? >>> >>> would you then partition the 2TB in two and put all of your software >>> >>> in one and your recordings into the second partition? >>> >>> or would you just get a 1TB and get an external HD to store your files? >>> >>> which one would you recommend or is faster, firewire or USB? could you >>> >>> give me a link to professional reliable ones? >>> >>> the Imacs only have one FW800 port in the back where i already have my >>> >>> RME FW800 plugged in >>> >>> that means i would need a FW hub to plug the external HD,which one >>> >>> would you recomend that have combinations of USBs and FW? >>> >>> so far ive found this one : >>> >>> http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=199941 >>> >>> thanx for your help! >>> >>> cheers >>> >>> Luis >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> www.luis-angulo.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> www.luis-angulo.com >> > > > > -- > www.luis-angulo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 4 01:11:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FE15183466; Tue, 4 Oct 2011 01:11:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=6DnK9SlspjQUafU6MzYmZAt1wpB1MUaNH28Mo/Kfxqk= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:17 a=LK4Z3lV3AAAA:8 a=F241C8f2IZRaHokvfT0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Steve Reich at 75 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 18:11:12 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112147 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 01:11:14 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for sharing that Todd. On Oct 3, 2011, at 3:51 PM, todd reynolds wrote: > Hi my looping brethren. =20 >=20 > Since there's oft conversation about Steve Reich here, I thought I'd = post this link for y'all. =20 >=20 > NPR Music got a few of us together to write some personal reflections = on the man and his music on the occasion of his 75th Birthday today. = Some nice audio snippets for streaming as well.=20 >=20 > http://www.npr.org/2011/10/03/140951516/steve-reich-music-we-love >=20 > All the best to you all.=20 >=20 > Todd >=20 > --=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 4 04:37:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7BC79183473; Tue, 4 Oct 2011 04:37:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dEmCZEWkrbEvBqiB4dIzF/Vw2dcT89/eJbzXXycyY30=; b=xT8w/eDmlNLWSjwofJ2WPwimpD4d/fPpi+KwlNQOvp4hjisEbAf9XVUMEiyjf/Rc4K INs7n43xLNrV4uGHVTY06o0NwaIinsONittqUQkuO1p/UjALqpDdaM8ZcNvz9pCCgNaw vSIcM4HDJbiaHYT8MZoU5UKffSOT25yhoO2rs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8534221254143249620@unknownmsgid> References: <8534221254143249620@unknownmsgid> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 06:37:04 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: setting up Mac for audio - questions From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112148 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 04:37:07 +0000 (UTC) OMG yezzzz!! On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:44 AM, mark francombe wr= ote: > did it last week. =A0if you have a time machine backup of the old mac, > just plug it in to the new mac and turn it on... worked for me... like > a dream.. same as old mac now with added Lion!!!! > > Sent from my (advertisement removed) > > On 4 Oct 2011, at 01:13, Louie Angulo wrote= : > >> and by the way folks,would you recomend me do a fresh reinstall of >> everything in my new imac or would you use a program like carbon clone >> to save time and copy everything to my imac? bear in mind that the old >> one has OSX leopard and the new one i believe come with OSX lion >> has anybody done this? >> >> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Louie Angulo >> wrote: >>> i know Time capsule is not FW,though it has ethernet and USB instead >>> and now up to 3TB of space,i believe >>> so would you recomend it and would it be fast in combination with >>> logic to access all the installed Native libraries in it for example? >>> cheers >>> Luis >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 12:20 AM, richard sales = wrote: >>>> Yea, all audio on a separate drive, all virtual instruments are SUPPOS= ED TO >>>> BE on yet another separate drive. Firewire works great for me! =A0I've= done >>>> some very high track count sessions without blip. >>>> I've heard the new USB is faster. =A0Don't know how robust it is. >>>> >>>> And Drobo (an external modified raid) is THE BOMB for backup. =A0I hav= e 7TB in >>>> mine right now and will upgrade to 10 TB soon. =A0They're very slow to= set up, >>>> slow (as in days sometimes) when installing new drives, but once set u= p, >>>> they're great for backup (use Time Machine). =A0Then I have a Newer >>>> Technologies Voyager for second backup. =A0I take the old drives out o= f the >>>> Drobo when they get upgraded and use them in the Voyager for second ba= ckup. >>>> =A0Voyager is just like a socket you plug different drives into as nee= ded. =A0In >>>> lieu of a Drobo, I'd at least get a Voyager and a bunch of 1 or 2 TB r= aw >>>> internal drives to plug into it when needed. >>>> Drobo is great because, if a drive fails, you just plug in a new one. = =A0No >>>> data lost. =A0I use the cheap WD green Caviar drives. =A0Slow but, aga= in, great >>>> for safety. >>>> www.drobo.com >>>> Buy 'em at Egghead or wherever. >>>> One drawback: the more HDs you have hanging on Firewire (etc), the slo= wer >>>> the startup. >>>> Every time I've done a partition, I've regretted it. =A0I'm sure YMMV. >>>> Other World Computing makes great drives for recording. =A0Guaranteed = for >>>> three years or so. >>>> http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/firewire/1394/USB/EliteAL/eSATA_FW800_F= W400_USB >>>> LaCie is also good. =A0I think they might cost more. >>>> I usually buy raw drives from Tiger Direct. =A0Haven't shopped a whole= lot, >>>> though. >>>> R >>>> richard sales >>>> www.glasswing.com >>>> www.hayleysales.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 3, 2011, at 10:41 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >>>> >>>> Firewire can be daisy-chained. Thus no need for a hub. Avoid USB for >>>> audio if possible (USB data transmission capacity flutter with varying >>>> CPU load). >>>> >>>> It's more safe to use extra drives for your project recordings. Best >>>> is two drives, where you copy files to keep them identical. This >>>> serves two causes: you back up your work and you never have to suffer >>>> downtime to defrag the work dirves (given you reformat a drive before >>>> copying all work files to it). >>>> >>>> Greetings from Sweden >>>> >>>> Per Boysen >>>> www.boysen.se >>>> www.perboysen.com >>>> www.looproom.com internet music hub >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Louie Angulo >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello people, >>>> >>>> im going to be aupgrading from the dual core 21" imac to the 27" quad >>>> >>>> core for audio recording purposes. >>>> >>>> The thing i need to consider before buying is: >>>> >>>> would it be better to get it with the 2TB HD than the 1TB? >>>> >>>> would you then partition the 2TB in two and put all of your software >>>> >>>> in one and your recordings into the second partition? >>>> >>>> or would you just get a 1TB and get an external HD to store your files= ? >>>> >>>> which one would you recommend or is faster, firewire or USB? could you >>>> >>>> give me a link to professional reliable ones? >>>> >>>> the Imacs only have one FW800 port in the back where i already have my >>>> >>>> RME FW800 plugged in >>>> >>>> that means i would need a FW hub to plug the external HD,which one >>>> >>>> would you recomend =A0that have combinations of USBs and FW? >>>> >>>> so far ive found this one : >>>> >>>> http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=3D199941 >>>> >>>> thanx for your help! >>>> >>>> cheers >>>> >>>> Luis >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> www.luis-angulo.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> www.luis-angulo.com >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> www.luis-angulo.com >> > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 4 06:13:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF600183473; Tue, 4 Oct 2011 06:13:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 06:13:50 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2011 00:56:44 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Video Performance Saturday and two new photo essays Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112149 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 06:13:50 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I'll be performing video at 119 Gallery in Lowell Saturday as part of this event. http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=169813629770685 Location 119 Gallery 119 Chelmsford St Lowell, Massachusetts Created By 119 Gallery More Info Rock Flint Contemporary Ensemble: [MA] Forbes Graham - trumpet and electronics Junko Simons - cello Todd Brunel - bass clarinet and soprano sax Andrea Pensado - electronics Luther Grey - drums with dr T - live video + Ouroboros: [MA NH] Dave Seidel - electronics Bill Bacon - drums, percussion with Greg Kowalski - live video + unnamed band: [Lowell] Stephanie Lak - voice, objects, fun Michael F Dailey Jr - drums, &more fun Walter Wright - drums, percussion Rock Flint Contemporary Ensemble: We explore sound and form through weaving soundscapes, pulsing rhythms and abstract tonality. Each member of the project has been active in the vibrant Boston free improvisation scene for some time. We are looking to get our concept to new audiences I also have two new photo essays on Flickr Path to the Beaver Pond http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157627678509421/ Just down a hill from the family country cottage at Lake Waubeeka is a path that cuts through the woods behind some houses and eventually leads to a beaver pond. The path is full of interesting shapes and textures, and is a photographers delight, especially when there is sunlight filtering through the trees. The August pix were taken on a cloudy day, the September ones on a sunny day. I'm looking forward to going basic there in October when the leaves will have turned. Grass Tarp Drops Stain http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157627673780979/ A few weeks ago, Marya and I visited my old friends, Richard and Maureen Solomon and their son Brian. (All three are excellent photographers -- many of Brian's pix can be seen at http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000633027754 ) There are always many interesting things to photograph around the Solomon's home, so, after an early dinner, I walked around their yard and garden with my camera. Much to my (and Richard's) surprise, the best shots were taken of a piece of plastic tarpaulin that had been used to protect part of the lawn during a staining project. Rain water had formed droplets under the tarp, and the grass and the stain provided additional textures. Here are some pictured I took of the scene -- I wish I had taken ten times as many, -- " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 4 09:44:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 91282183463; Tue, 4 Oct 2011 09:44:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=64Jxm1Y/h+YyTx3xK37FIvlxd6h7ejfDw9kQeCfgao0=; b=h0VP2kcMP9OItKYZBAWhmxG6Y37cz80wtsTI+9OFJxST1CquZyLs04hC9LPkwDT+/3 hTGHu6KkLC6FwLH7D26eDZt1/XHbLKCWvLekjg77UVdWFBuouPuqS7b9u/KTUjwnjNpG Pj6+dwjgZnxWuErpSNCHu6DNUzI/9cCHxRa/o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 11:44:28 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Steve Reich at 75 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112150 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 09:44:29 +0000 (UTC) Thanks, Todd. That link is so juicy I got to save it for my coffee break :-)) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 4 09:55:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA636183466; Tue, 4 Oct 2011 09:55:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Kx5TioT8dS241qyznGJF74zeejw+AJNM6wZQAEOZt88=; b=vhsm9Hes26gfg2eWa7yFhw++fuSPeba2y3d30UhM8fLRozEm/LRzEiuzqtFCpqM6mS Ofm1V7p7t3f2sXJyYUIT1uAqKegKvBKWe+ixQjxr4sQxhtNtuSdpYGQBP9BRgZI0aXbQ YJ88UeYW8dH0wRXrInwktn6x29hKeawc63W4w= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E8A474F.7030508@cruzio.com> References: <4E877CCE.3040508@googlemail.com> <4E8A474F.7030508@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 11:54:59 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: LOOPING a DRY CLEANING SHOP From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112151 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 09:55:00 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:37 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > I think it's easy to become technically jaded because so much is possible= , > =C2=A0but there is much beauty > left in our digital and acoustic world and in their potential mixing. I think it all comes down to the human factor involved. Choices, decisions based on a personal view. The challenge in electronic music has always been to find and use the algorithms that resonates with one's esthetic preferences. The argument that "too much is possible" doesn't really exist. However, for a person that doesn't know yet what to say the argument "too many stories need to be told" might feel quite real. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 4 12:24:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD02F183466; Tue, 4 Oct 2011 12:24:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=AqELBsYmknQkTFdpWxSzebPHgjBVs7chfIBHS5BFH/M=; b=FkCfJXiZceGSNYT2umUOnKvjYJCFcQGinE6UnW/34uzbkkavUhOkIuwH9oKCzaRWW0 Cl7hHcVWz4U2nRwRa81a15APY4mKY2PZ6VJqn8xImaHb5qRdzkehGq09Jno7Wt+1YR0n aO0upmOf4GN+eEqPysIAkNMmKaG5efMvHQXjE= References: <4E877CCE.3040508@googlemail.com> <4E8A474F.7030508@cruzio.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 13:24:46 +0100 Message-ID: <-8951764640429168005@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: LOOPING a DRY CLEANING SHOP To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305e2551df1fb904ae782d6c Resent-Message-ID: <5Rz4ID.A.Bo.YsviOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112152 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 12:24:56 +0000 (UTC) --20cf305e2551df1fb904ae782d6c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 In my personal opinion there are two distinct musical experiences. Creating and listening. For me creating must be about a performance of some kind, and therefore composing music purely on a computer, or device with absolutely NO physical interaction, is not good enough for my personal tastes. However listening us purely about the lovely gorgeous audio caressing my ears. in this latter, it matters not one jot to me if the music was created by a human, a monkey, a computer operated by one of the above, or totally generated by a computer. If it tickles my ears I'm happy! In the case of the video clip that started this thread, the performance was so obviously created in Final cut Pro or other video editing software, I simply saw it as a music video. This technique is not new, See Coldcut in early 90's. If however some were fooled into thinking it was some kind of live performance, then it was misrepresentative. To me, one could argue that the documentary style of the production was giving this impression slightly, however the performance itself did not... musically... ok-ish, but visually much more appealing, without which, I doubt we would be having this fascinating convo. m Sent from my (advertisement removed) --20cf305e2551df1fb904ae782d6c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In my personal opinion there are two d= istinct musical experiences.=A0
Creating and listening.
For me creating must be about a performance of some kind, and therefore co= mposing music purely on a computer, or device with absolutely NO physical i= nteraction, is not good enough for my personal tastes.
However listening us purely about the lovely gorgeous audio caressing = my ears. in this latter, it matters not one jot to me if the music was crea= ted by a human, a monkey, a computer operated by one of the above, or total= ly generated by a computer. If it tickles my ears I'm happy!

In the case of the video clip that started this thread,= the performance was so obviously created in Final cut Pro or other video e= diting software, I simply saw it as a music video. This technique is not ne= w, See Coldcut in early 90's.
If however some were fooled into thinking it was some kind of live per= formance, then it was misrepresentative. To me, one could argue that the do= cumentary style of the production was giving this impression slightly, howe= ver the performance itself did not...
musically... ok-ish, but visually much more appealing, without which, = I doubt we would be having this fascinating convo.

m

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--20cf307f375e6a573c04ae79aba4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 5 14:07:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED0C4183463; Wed, 5 Oct 2011 14:07:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MGijJ/GoVN6/2VV3OjkcM/RwDYa0oSryDQgt0GQvlC0=; b=qL/ykTLTfnZagTD8nuDjMFLqL76HaPgY+VkS4ZYgtO/TYiux75v2OXB66bxJH9s2Je xqqVQOTiASRN9iBBkYzLkvkpM6DUIkErhZlNscOjvXrUv0neOfaYWwwY562JrG/XT+Fw xOTO/XFBhkpWwK6TkYajKkIMT6ARX+R3obJUs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 15:07:26 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: selecting au presets in live From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112154 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 14:07:27 +0000 (UTC) ok, so on impulse, i bought a roland GI-10 (all the talk of guitar synths around here reminded me i have an internal GK pickup in one of my guitars which i haven't used for years since i sold my vg-88) i've been playing with some of the "instruments" in live and i figured out how to drop lots of different ones into a rack and use a cc to select the one i want, but if i drop a softsynth into live, how do i go about selecting presets from it? thanks in advance! sim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 5 14:22:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F972183466; Wed, 5 Oct 2011 14:22:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; bh=bXKNCNyuui59EXbXufu/UODKvuzUAXMMg5C5xEm+eW8=; b=q57IVEID7GX7Mdq/H88ivSrVkygRdkTUy3dCnYSkB9ovTpCpnubvHC4vYeQfodwBMa IvrheCZ0s2cd5OYP4Ab1JzRpSJAX0S/ylzPazo64oTAFqb4a8s+dULE1kcqEgJHHcu2M 4K2prZNxZWpLCL2zvYzzXu5kAwcHoIyUpJOZ4= Message-Id: <18195617-1DFA-4936-97AD-EC189E584DAD@gmail.com> From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-214906536 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: selecting au presets in live Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 07:22:02 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112155 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 14:22:17 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-214906536 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Oct 5, 2011, at 7:07 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > if i drop a softsynth into live, how do i > go about selecting presets from it? In the little Live pane for the synth, click on the button that looks like a bomb to bring up the control interface, then command -left click on the interface and go to Copy All from Program to get the preset list. PC must be similar. BobC http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j http://www.youtube.com/user/tynego --Apple-Mail-1-214906536 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Oct 5, 2011, = at 7:07 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:

 if i drop a softsynth into = live, how do i
go about selecting presets from = it?


In the little Live = pane for the synth, click on the button that looks like a bomb to bring = up the control interface, then command -left click on the interface and = go to Copy All from Program to get the preset list.
PC must be = similar.

BobC


=
= --Apple-Mail-1-214906536-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 5 14:24:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 71481183463; Wed, 5 Oct 2011 14:24:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; bh=xB5XU4s7NUDglAcVWt71EAVlkRXciPq1CiwkL4F62nw=; b=Po0oFCrRUq3t1zoc7NrorwQO/GOAJPhlMWzCPnIKVU1lH23kSg9rsad2inL//ah6gn pnXgQSNX6wieabkjWKez0JIyBtWx3QP70zetiW1x6F7+eIKjAr6ENkofatFILMGOWisi A0rf2nwmPyRfJaxUPP3PYnH+pH7cwT0g8hk54= Message-Id: From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-215036743 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: selecting au presets in live Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 07:24:12 -0700 References: <18195617-1DFA-4936-97AD-EC189E584DAD@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112156 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 14:24:15 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-215036743 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Oct 5, 2011, at 7:22 AM, RP Collier wrote: > then command -left click I meant command- right click. Still not awake yet. b --Apple-Mail-3-215036743 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
then command = -left click

I meant command- right = click.
Still not awake = yet.

b
= --Apple-Mail-3-215036743-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 5 14:41:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60694183462; Wed, 5 Oct 2011 14:41:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vvjsC0bERXEtbzfJ/mbT/7OowvXGZL5aV+rk9roQTCs=; b=tgOHSkD5kk2ngjeNYrof20EdPCY9t+F8oUf1f9dZ85WOGmgy9xGOm0pK3fbYuYYx3Z RbH+hRBh0vUGrPyxNS1rD9NXJyn+zNgGlQuO31GtbR+LQQ6+HO/YbCY0MlBW8dpcoq3l bkhumCLK/+Cp0sxztgSMq4N1DW5oF5Bi38Hh8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <18195617-1DFA-4936-97AD-EC189E584DAD@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 15:41:24 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: selecting au presets in live From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112157 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 14:41:26 +0000 (UTC) i don't have a bomb, i have a spanner to open the plugin window (is that what you're calling the interface?). i'v tried every combination of left and right click with ctrl, alt and command, but no dice... On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:24 PM, RP Collier wrote: > > > On Oct 5, 2011, at 7:22 AM, RP Collier wrote: > > then command -left click > > I meant command- right click. > Still not awake yet. > b From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 5 14:56:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 869AF183462; Wed, 5 Oct 2011 14:56:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; bh=klDRaOcTxbwmGVdmW3EDeqcGtgPTNFCSSa9LqnoaKwg=; b=xuD/lqiKCje9bnQ27fhWYc417OfR1eC+S01y2KZslll2Moiw7nl+tdY2p7ossMzwwA ljGyAhwy5AGM3PvNNmYO15GW2DOckb/IMBAHqdd7NLf4t7nNCflzHqjwEuTHjwjQBvK1 Rerjoyrz2TEujIOebSvq/reSfl0rL6FAnVKe0= Message-Id: <4FB2E9EC-9111-4FA9-8F38-072A1DB2001C@gmail.com> From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-216938911 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: selecting au presets in live Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 07:55:55 -0700 References: <18195617-1DFA-4936-97AD-EC189E584DAD@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <_Jz7y.A.FoH.CAHjOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112158 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 14:56:02 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4-216938911 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Oct 5, 2011, at 7:41 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > i have a spanner to open the plugin window (is > that what you're calling the interface?) Yes the spanner. If you have the plugin window open command right click should bring up a menu with Copy All from Program at the bottom. If not, you may be able to access the presets in the device title bar pull down menu, or the plugin control panel may have a preset select button. What synth are you using? BobC --Apple-Mail-4-216938911 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Oct 5, 2011, = at 7:41 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:

 i have a spanner to open = the plugin window (is
that what you're calling the = interface?)

Yes the spanner. If you = have the plugin window open command right click should bring up a menu = with Copy All from Program at the bottom. 
If not, you = may be able to access the presets in the device title bar pull down = menu, or the plugin control panel may have a preset select = button.
What synth are you = using?

BobC
= --Apple-Mail-4-216938911-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 5 15:02:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C2CE18347A; Wed, 5 Oct 2011 15:02:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=23tJGwXw6GULgLFmXT9R3xLq1oOVU5PEhXMfNEwo4d0=; b=mW/PQjUDCBF/PKVnYAJFzzeCIqbxiBw5jCJvmC4aKb/V73PFuATzS2IQAbRiq8Bfnr e17QCRP/9x4Br/xeTeiaoT3iJWS3iWpIkloKHHdN+TSRohZMKr2w73NtDX0AIf2TUxFy oLFyL7naEH2MuR2KHKwZSC8FVk3muXtO3JyLQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4FB2E9EC-9111-4FA9-8F38-072A1DB2001C@gmail.com> References: <18195617-1DFA-4936-97AD-EC189E584DAD@gmail.com> <4FB2E9EC-9111-4FA9-8F38-072A1DB2001C@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 16:02:18 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: selecting au presets in live From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <0QHsBB.A.4zH.8FHjOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112159 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 15:02:20 +0000 (UTC) selecting presets from the plugin itself is no problem. i don't see a list of factory presets in the browser when i click on the hotswap button, but that's because i thing they're in some sort of compressed file. i can easily just call up the ones i want and then save them as new presets, which i do see in the browser. my question is more to do with selecting these presets via midi (sorry, i forgot to say that in the original post). i can of course drag all the presets i want into an instrument rack and select them with the chain, which i was doing with the live instruments, but having loads of instances of the same synth running uses more cpu than i can spare. is there a way to present presets in the UI so they can be selected via midi? sim On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:55 PM, RP Collier wrote: > > On Oct 5, 2011, at 7:41 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > > =A0i have a spanner to open the plugin window (is > that what you're calling the interface?) > > Yes the spanner. If you have the plugin window open command right click > should bring up a menu with Copy All from Program at the bottom. > If not, you may be able to access the presets in the device title bar pul= l > down menu, or the plugin control panel may have a preset select button. > What synth are you using? > BobC From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 5 15:18:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39B0C183486; Wed, 5 Oct 2011 15:18:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; bh=297NRCwvIFewYYBv16ScMZUU2lhWKaHTKDtPshz6BRs=; b=lEVJM7iYQLOVC2YnbSpIB/B4LE7vaiZSPzOYk0dNRTuD1qAJkwTaA6Ajjy+hEcoTHW edzwxpL6Nu49UImDtI6ocK7z5HtjnbA26iw1vvcMADhQ6kOt7q5b8NICYPbyup06pMXi LflzzuhAMXcLwj2PumbG+6m1HL9IkMuvmSoQA= Message-Id: From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5-218261772 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: selecting au presets in live Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 08:17:57 -0700 References: <18195617-1DFA-4936-97AD-EC189E584DAD@gmail.com> <4FB2E9EC-9111-4FA9-8F38-072A1DB2001C@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112160 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 15:18:02 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5-218261772 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Oct 5, 2011, at 8:02 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > is there a way to > present presets in the UI so they can be selected via midi? I see. I'm not sure. If you click the right arrow on the title bar with MIDI learn selected you can see the parameters of the presets. I don't know if there is a way to assign parameter sets to MIDI, but there should be. Maybe the softsynth already has preassigned MIDI commands to cycle thru presets? b --Apple-Mail-5-218261772 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Oct 5, 2011, = at 8:02 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:

 is there a way = to
present presets in the UI so they can be selected via = midi?

I see. I'm not = sure.
If you click the right arrow on the title bar with MIDI = learn selected you can see the parameters of the presets.
I = don't know if there is a way to assign parameter sets to MIDI, but there = should be.
Maybe the softsynth already has preassigned MIDI = commands to cycle thru = presets?

b
= --Apple-Mail-5-218261772-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 5 15:43:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3C8C18345A; Wed, 5 Oct 2011 15:43:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yr++2wHMU0WTeu3PVjn/YCUo+35nmAyiXlOA1J3mZRs=; b=BW7sptyx72sAq3nzqo/T7zq3JaWeYRjDdn8n2QKVXB7IJag2nQ1ax3HkcsejeeAZo4 s70o67WObJjquyzemOfuQTE8xTp4JhlIOTbkCShyjhr4hjdxxhwc6ak6ekFrEihzYRyl 93OqV3zwJVz+Z01VDj2kFH9DhsbdFNGCiKdYk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <18195617-1DFA-4936-97AD-EC189E584DAD@gmail.com> <4FB2E9EC-9111-4FA9-8F38-072A1DB2001C@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 16:43:15 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: selecting au presets in live From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112161 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 15:43:16 +0000 (UTC) yeah, i think that's the way to do it - save all the presets i want to use in a new bank and then use the plugin's own preset select controls ta sim On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:17 PM, RP Collier wrote: > > On Oct 5, 2011, at 8:02 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > > =A0is there a way to > present presets in the UI so they can be selected via midi? > > I see. I'm not sure. > If you click the right arrow on the title bar with MIDI learn selected yo= u > can see the parameters of the presets. > I don't know if there is a way to assign parameter sets to MIDI, but ther= e > should be. > Maybe the softsynth already has preassigned MIDI commands to cycle thru > presets? > b From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 5 17:05:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A3003183462; Wed, 5 Oct 2011 17:05:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=IBRlmdqQIVYBj4z8wPTBSP+/iy+jbjCP5ikUl/yQbhQ=; b=NVU8oV7gtOilnPI6ft8RslhXTqo+OULXBCIrAF20Yz0pMHr3nd2slncT0Ub0Lv5lC7 yyyqA3C0YIRrx/h/t4A6IGNkJo7butY4I/OIAU7u2T+K48Qd3jZOZBPn2YDTJAQCl7OY un4GgQQygIYSYIgglfaQwenrD29KBOziZIpS4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 11:05:28 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: [No Looping Content] RIP, Bert Jansch From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112162 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 17:05:29 +0000 (UTC) Rest in peace, Bert Jansch. Some of you will recognize the name =97 http://www.holymoly.com/music/video/bert-jansch-dies-aged-67-much-great-gui= tar-player-jimi-hendrix59836 ~~D. http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 5 17:18:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F39CA183463; Wed, 5 Oct 2011 17:18:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 466879.6146.bm@omp1011.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1317835110; bh=TS24tp2PCnta2CakvMJ1tEYJ8DUK3+11SkbEd8xNxck=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=32NFoQu1XoRSXkjAX+9AUmwGbGlBFe2fRyEc9RruIW5jHVaBkZN/1jOLG28SxtJfJJvksWzr/ILgs/y1baz1YHDormvyGlVoY3+exQKNeeXN7Tm/Y73ZM/Vxr1Wtz74HW6Z29eXjBVosUubSUfI8crcQPhcGlScXWUs1KDzhstM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Jag/SFO6RdDnfrFFNucWvzk5cK7aJ6nqT3HvxmD2wOmNM7wi1GzqLHNmG64RoC0jvXeplQS8fS7LCO10RbB79uYoUUNJZKvnz+80qMfRI721W51m7JF8kAtYPIiCWNcVdtovM66GSadrUI8XtOTFJI8wyWKmZ3IXDxhF9UX7kKU=; X-YMail-OSG: u2gu3akVM1lbl1JynoMyBdDlzT5koYtDs1r_tnx111u4i3P Oj5NbEXey X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.114.317681 References: Message-ID: <1317835110.77184.YahooMailNeo@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 10:18:30 -0700 (PDT) From: tim echols Reply-To: tim echols Subject: Re: [No Looping Content] RIP, Bert Jansch To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="97308942-1422043543-1317835110=:77184" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112163 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 17:18:31 +0000 (UTC) --97308942-1422043543-1317835110=:77184 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable wow.=C2=A0 how odd--=C2=A0 i was watching a documentary he was in just a fe= w weeks ago--=C2=A0 wrote an acoustic piece called jansch after it.=C2=A0 s= ynchronicity in my life.=0A=C2=A0=0A=C2=A0=0Atime=0A=0AFrom: Dennis Moser <= sinsofmachaut@gmail.com>=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: = Wednesday, October 5, 2011 11:05 AM=0ASubject: [No Looping Content] RIP, Be= rt Jansch=0A=0ARest in peace, Bert Jansch.=0A=0ASome of you will recognize = the name =E2=80=94=0A=0Ahttp://www.holymoly.com/music/video/bert-jansch-die= s-aged-67-much-great-guitar-player-jimi-hendrix59836=0A=0A~~D.=0A=0Ahttp://= soundcloud.com/usrsbin=0Ahttp://audiozoloft.com=0Ahttp://usrslashsbin.angre= k.com/ --97308942-1422043543-1317835110=:77184 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
wow.  how odd--  i was watching= a documentary he was in just a few weeks ago--  wrote an acoustic pie= ce called jansch after it.  synchronicity in my life.
 
 
time

From:= Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.comSent: Wednesday, October = 5, 2011 11:05 AM
Subject:
[No Looping Content] RIP, Bert Jansch

Rest in peace, Bert J= ansch.

Some of you will recognize the name =E2=80=94

http://www.holymoly.com/music/video/bert-jansch-dies-aged= -67-much-great-guitar-player-jimi-hendrix59836

~~D.

http://so= undcloud.com/usrsbin
http://audiozoloft.com
http://usrslashsbin.angre= k.com/



--97308942-1422043543-1317835110=:77184-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 5 17:23:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE983183461; Wed, 5 Oct 2011 17:23:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=V47GnxASEvvgyY9+zHsVRCCr+Anp5zUpKodfQjnKsqE=; b=xxV4i+84uIe3ic3D5a/4VgMGFNsmMlNTG1r9b9Sv4vHbuZ6W4cpzqn3D6KbXpBGwKM HHq3ydS86Z9DFbwNM2Ey6udAXFMQjLWu0wBdc2VRQ//k5rYw521dJgmGnVPXCDWZqf3D BpudRkVRLoO6iD/L6axPMG0bg/hkqHPu/qL0I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1317835110.77184.YahooMailNeo@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1317835110.77184.YahooMailNeo@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 13:23:36 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [No Looping Content] RIP, Bert Jansch From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3079bd4ed9334604ae90777f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112164 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 17:23:36 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3079bd4ed9334604ae90777f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Was hearing about this earlier on FB as the news spread. A legacy of influence he spread on so many through the last several decades. Very sad of his life ending albeit cancer is so cruel I guess he is finally at peace. Loss for us all who came through the fingerstyle community at one time or another. Thanks for posting this clip Dennis. Jim On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 1:18 PM, tim echols wrote: > wow. how odd-- i was watching a documentary he was in just a few weeks > ago-- wrote an acoustic piece called jansch after it. synchronicity in = my > life. > > > time > > *From:* Dennis Moser > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 5, 2011 11:05 AM > *Subject:* [No Looping Content] RIP, Bert Jansch > > Rest in peace, Bert Jansch. > > Some of you will recognize the name =97 > > > http://www.holymoly.com/music/video/bert-jansch-dies-aged-67-much-great-g= uitar-player-jimi-hendrix59836 > > ~~D. > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf3079bd4ed9334604ae90777f Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Was hearing about this earlier on FB as the news spread.=A0 A legacy o= f influence he spread on so many through the last several decades.=A0 Very = sad of his life ending albeit cancer is so cruel I guess he is finally at p= eace.=A0 Loss for us all who came through the fingerstyle community at one = time or another.=A0 Thanks for posting this clip Dennis.
=A0
Jim

On Wed, Oct = 5, 2011 at 1:18 PM, tim echols <eekamouse67@yahoo.com> wrote:
=
wow.=A0 how odd--=A0 i was watching a documentary he was in just= a few weeks ago--=A0 wrote an acoustic piece called jansch after it.=A0 sy= nchronicity in my life.
=A0
=A0
time

From:
Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail= .com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-= delight.com
Sent: W= ednesday, October 5, 2011 11:05 AM
Subject: [No Looping Conte= nt] RIP, Bert Jansch



--
From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free= Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the = sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp= .com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--20cf3079bd4ed9334604ae90777f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 5 17:45:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA660183464; Wed, 5 Oct 2011 17:45:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Violindave@aol.com Message-ID: <18cd14.49a646a.3bbdf1cf@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 13:45:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: RIP, Bert Jansch To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_18cd14.49a646a.3bbdf1cf_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.6 sub 168 X-Originating-IP: [71.163.225.20] x-aol-global-disposition: S X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:332268032:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-REROUTE: YES x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33ca4e8c97d02834 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112165 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 17:45:59 +0000 (UTC) --part1_18cd14.49a646a.3bbdf1cf_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Awesome guitar player. I saw him live in London many times back in the late 60's, with John Renbourn and the rest of the Pentangle. He was a fundamental influence on my guitar playing and composing. Dave --part1_18cd14.49a646a.3bbdf1cf_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Awesome guitar player. I saw him live in London many times bac= k in=20 the late 60's, with John Renbourn and the rest of the Pentangle. He was a= =20 fundamental influence on my guitar playing and composing.
 
Dave
--part1_18cd14.49a646a.3bbdf1cf_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 5 18:18:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A5A7183462; Wed, 5 Oct 2011 18:18:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=yNSrRBp8Qiz49nPeg+q+lBkDIO3SkGgjtf39o3PRfg8=; b=AsGXeX2dEJhiFZka6wLakWK0iKskJ7uxzvdy56grjgi07elt7V1J9g2QbCvdecjdJu 0PXhneXqjsRSXrneJYgBYGPWuxDXdX3Q9q7JuQOhuemW3Cgy+B45anH7wk8MybCOGMAs vwbWH5zkYhSrGPId1y865hCj/uz2wNkrHmrFo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 20:18:23 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: selecting au presets in live From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112166 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 18:18:24 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > a cc to > select the one i want, but if i drop a softsynth into live, how do i > go about selecting presets from it? I'm afraid changing preset, by external MIDI, in a loaded plugin instrument isn't a good idea. It is possible, if the plugin supports it, but chances are Live will crash or stutter with noise. The reason for this is that Live is a DAW and as such allocates a memory buffer for the plugin and if the plugin goes away and another comes in this buffer assigning has to be done all over - which is sketchy in DAW play mode to say the least. A way to get around it is to do like we use to do in the Bidule host; assigning a MIDI event to mute a plugin and un-mute another. Mainstage uses the same strategy but refined to pre-load all virtual instrument presets into RAM when you boot the session. This makes it possible to hot-swap multiple plugin settings for a new set of settings. You could set up multiple tracks in Live, each one with an instance of the same instrument plugin but set to different sound patches. Then you simply assign your pedals to un-mute one while muting the others. However, this may cost some extra CPU resources as Live doesn't allow muted plugins to be offloaded the CPU in the same grade as Bidule (with the Audio Switcher instance swapping trick) and Mainstage. You may also use the computer's up/down arrow keys to scroll n load presets for an instrument plugin. I'm finding that pretty neat. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 5 23:54:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3204F183466; Wed, 5 Oct 2011 23:54:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E8CEDE8.8080307@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2011 16:53:12 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110920 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: [No Looping Content] RIP, Bert Jansch References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4mbp6C.A.0EC.F5OjOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112167 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 23:54:46 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: > Rest in peace, Bert Jansch. > I was so sad to hear of Bert's passing. He was a great musician and an inspiration! r. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 6 02:29:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BAA59183474; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 02:29:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=x5vjBkvOAOg5DigvOcHLXA3cbMf6x9owzNGs3Er+EJ4=; b=aovqf19FrsnVrrEBGmxDQLYR+DPxab59H7R98R1kQsNjhiSwGE5KW7y1nshqBehFqu UU88uPdvJR/6e7gEwylZpDIX1fCKocLy/J0T6SbDlm6khx8TDHaiSz/vl0/ECpOmyW4W Vv4fe++SZ1nuj9NWuqURUjBVWou8XUHRH3wCM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 19:29:17 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? From: doody To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016367b6170691fd104ae98177d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112168 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 02:29:19 +0000 (UTC) --0016367b6170691fd104ae98177d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Would we yet wait for the phrase, "user friendly"? --0016367b6170691fd104ae98177d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Would we yet wait for the phrase, "user friendly"?
--0016367b6170691fd104ae98177d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 6 02:33:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC88E183463; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 02:33:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 03:33:31 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01CC83D8.B80212E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3538.513 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3538.513 Resent-Message-ID: <7ta1bD.A.-WE.5NRjOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112169 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 02:33:29 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01CC83D8.B80212E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable People would be paying Xerox for their pre-existing GUI computer. From: doody=20 Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 3:29 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? Would we yet wait for the phrase, "user friendly"? ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01CC83D8.B80212E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
People would be paying Xerox for their pre-existing GUI = computer.
 
From: doody
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 3:29 AM
Subject: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never=20 been?
 
Would we yet wait for the phrase, "user=20 friendly"?
------=_NextPart_000_0028_01CC83D8.B80212E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 6 02:34:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 095EC183478; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 02:34:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=8b1IJb8lGGIa9KtOQiEJD4VNmGnzNn/dyfVZ4+59Q2Q=; b=vrHYGVsEdX/Z6rZHY/ikE228+Gu5pP+IONpEHjO923Wb/ovasXFi2pewxZHHal9awR BZNAkWuvYgftHYbRKSQyACiO7p3rMJqk3NUuAZa1KOwhaU7hR5cfg/7KyEOYVRZa7pB6 T7xEGrBIc3UEEZAIXzoV7V4T4/f8o+Z5aW/No= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 22:34:05 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5016081897e9804ae982854 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112170 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 02:34:05 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec5016081897e9804ae982854 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable echo echo, amazing human that did so much. I had missed the news till this evening and my son pointed it out, I was shocked, knew he was sick but had hoped that he would stabilize for a while but went so quick. RIP Steve, ma= y Apple still embrace your spirit in their path... On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 10:29 PM, doody wrote: > Would we yet wait for the phrase, "user friendly"? > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --bcaec5016081897e9804ae982854 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable echo echo, amazing human that did so much. =A0I had missed the news till th= is evening and my son pointed it out, I was shocked, knew he was sick but h= ad hoped that he would stabilize for a while but went so quick. =A0RIP Stev= e, may Apple still embrace your spirit in their path...

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 10:29 PM, doody <ringdangdoodl= ed@gmail.com> wrote:
Would we yet wait for the phrase, "user friendly"= ;?



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From Broo= klyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & P= eter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF Int= ernational.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--bcaec5016081897e9804ae982854-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 6 06:32:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF498183462; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 06:32:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WRGHxL2BMjU89O8+ypnGJ0l5107nZDlAQb+1szZuuaA=; b=CQr9P7gWcEBYj1lnU0YQGph/3JVmLuN2bF03seexQfANrzF6sL5wtN0cl+NQNDjQZX rw5B90pN7pgQ943nCW6coBcQN/F9/pJl8JEohG1U6iOCOQZD/UVCOiOIWLQT1KSkdrTM +OS0H8MuR+/toRelAtD0MIUOWviK0C6niCKI0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 08:32:17 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [No Looping Content] RIP, Bert Jansch From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112171 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 06:32:18 +0000 (UTC) Devastating news...one of my acoustic folk idols i remeber listening to his records in my teen years every night,he has definetly been an influence and i realized that the piece i wrote recently and posted here a few days ago echoes him. I will miss him dearly... Luis On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Dennis Moser wrot= e: > Rest in peace, Bert Jansch. > > Some of you will recognize the name =97 > > http://www.holymoly.com/music/video/bert-jansch-dies-aged-67-much-great-g= uitar-player-jimi-hendrix59836 > > ~~D. > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 6 09:27:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C045B183479; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 09:27:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bhPU6PD/VWtMPEfYDY1mUBpj+Kpvevkt7M74DfF8XL4=; b=owSijn4P4HBE46tiwehUZ+ZZ3AKVkj4Yeuptek3j/CtcOeP1kGYNgkcZoj/Rj3PNJg vZ+zEJu/SwrhCbhRjWgCSB8zV0tTO2KC+TgZTPiMxJlq/JDdqaDbAuOlvj1DmA68nJ/J /rbis01p5a8zwLPRfvTm9NlPsTs/DvEq6s9dM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 10:27:26 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: selecting au presets in live From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112172 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 09:27:27 +0000 (UTC) thanks per. i'll do some testing and see what the cpu load is like when i have multiple instances loaded, but only one of them active sim On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Simeon Harris > wrote: >> a cc to >> select the one i want, but if i drop a softsynth into live, how do i >> go about selecting presets from it? > > > I'm afraid changing preset, by external MIDI, in a loaded plugin > instrument isn't a good idea. It is possible, if the plugin supports > it, but chances are Live will crash or stutter with noise. The reason > for this is that Live is a DAW and as such allocates a memory buffer > for the plugin and if the plugin goes away and another comes in this > buffer assigning has to be done all over - which is sketchy in DAW > play mode to say the least. > > A way to get around it is to do like we use to do in the Bidule host; > assigning a MIDI event to mute a plugin and un-mute another. Mainstage > uses the same strategy but refined to pre-load all virtual instrument > presets into RAM when you boot the session. This makes it possible to > hot-swap multiple plugin settings for a new set of settings. > > You could set up multiple tracks in Live, each one with an instance of > the same instrument plugin but set to different sound patches. Then > you simply assign your pedals to un-mute one while muting the others. > However, this may cost some extra CPU resources as Live doesn't allow > muted plugins to be offloaded the CPU in the same grade as Bidule > (with the Audio Switcher instance swapping trick) and Mainstage. > > You may also use the computer's up/down arrow keys to scroll n load > presets for an instrument plugin. I'm finding that pretty neat. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 6 14:52:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4BD7D183466; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 14:52:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=3kn4snR/2TdwuYXvh+wm0CPnSGzQFWY7ukd303aPFv0= c=1 sm=1 a=4z8nKjRIbM4A:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:17 a=GFcF-JzGKzrJxzx40zwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 07:52:27 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <83RawD.A.25E.tCcjOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112173 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 14:52:29 +0000 (UTC) RIP Steve Jobs. Without you our lives would not at all be the same. You = were one of those rare gifts that providence grants each era, totally = transforming everything we thought we knew what the future was going to = be like. We baby boomers never got our jetpacks, monorails, bubble = houses, or robot housemaids. What you gave us was better. You will be = missed more than you will know. On Oct 5, 2011, at 7:29 PM, doody wrote: > Would we yet wait for the phrase, "user friendly"? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 6 15:04:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2869D183474; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 15:04:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=qyWa8GlnhhoAjz/2jvVWbGn4CZU9vvuvwvk7sP+oKWk=; b=fwhu1V6K1YTn2+p45eAIhZZLzEVKbkffEqb/+15S4GDrur5hr6AJG8mmZCAuQHooMp DOgpk4d9dPcSvhJWDcR1XZUQs4kBMiV3J6pE8BYU8S5UMcdHVdpyyFnmXjOmMUOAZ8fh OAD1EzDGJiR0mWTj+7yl7az4Y12yqUvShDqWM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> References: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 11:04:28 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5485cd01ce73a04aea2a4ce Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112174 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 15:04:28 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec5485cd01ce73a04aea2a4ce Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ted that is sweet man. Great and reflective words. Amazing spirit that will hopefully be always embraced by Apple... On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 10:52 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wr= ote: > RIP Steve Jobs. Without you our lives would not at all be the same. You > were one of those rare gifts that providence grants each era, totally > transforming everything we thought we knew what the future was going to b= e > like. We baby boomers never got our jetpacks, monorails, bubble houses, o= r > robot housemaids. What you gave us was better. You will be missed more th= an > you will know. > > On Oct 5, 2011, at 7:29 PM, doody wrote: > > > Would we yet wait for the phrase, "user friendly"? > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --bcaec5485cd01ce73a04aea2a4ce Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ted that is sweet man.=A0 Great and reflective words.=A0 Amazing spirit tha= t will hopefully be always embraced by Apple...

On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 10:52 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn &= lt;tedkillian@charter.net>= wrote:
RIP Steve Jobs. Without you our lives would no= t at all be the same. You were one of those rare gifts that providence gran= ts each era, totally transforming everything we thought we knew what the fu= ture was going to be like. We baby boomers never got our jetpacks, monorail= s, bubble houses, or robot housemaids. What you gave us was better. You wil= l be missed more than you will know.

On Oct 5, 2011, at 7:29 PM, doody wrote:

> Would we yet wait for the phrase, "user friendly"?




--
From Bro= oklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & = Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF In= ternational.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--bcaec5485cd01ce73a04aea2a4ce-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 6 15:36:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 81659183474; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 15:36:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=3kn4snR/2TdwuYXvh+wm0CPnSGzQFWY7ukd303aPFv0= c=1 sm=1 a=4z8nKjRIbM4A:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=50Cz1CyOAAAA:8 a=l1qK0aSRAAAA:8 a=OS-3HS7yxuYv2ENy1OYA:9 a=MDfHyxaUKWOTCQOvTdAA:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 08:36:15 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112175 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 15:36:17 +0000 (UTC) In my office at work, I have one of those big old black and white "Think = Different" posters - the one with Pablo Picasso on it. They should one last poster for the series with a picture of Steve. On Oct 6, 2011, at 8:04 AM, Jim Goodin wrote: > Ted that is sweet man. Great and reflective words. Amazing spirit = that will hopefully be always embraced by Apple... >=20 > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 10:52 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn = wrote: > RIP Steve Jobs. Without you our lives would not at all be the same. = You were one of those rare gifts that providence grants each era, = totally transforming everything we thought we knew what the future was = going to be like. We baby boomers never got our jetpacks, monorails, = bubble houses, or robot housemaids. What you gave us was better. You = will be missed more than you will know. >=20 > On Oct 5, 2011, at 7:29 PM, doody wrote: >=20 > > Would we yet wait for the phrase, "user friendly"? >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > =46rom Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim = Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. = jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. >=20 > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 6 16:06:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00C0D183473; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 16:06:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=E3e1RyU0taOk3/IXhmHBtA4hBNmtDDIlldsArGvMZyk=; b=W8c6eGSPUAZj4J0kDLACwU0XptpWHfaai9B/9FA/pG9UGEwQKsXBKPMutVcF+OlNo6 6vTkFQLG167r0Sa1XWpYQEA0r0jF3PVKeMnky9HNdwfw7BR0UA0WXXqBJXw6wH2o7fc7 lUmyFR7kqUGFjXufBBKXC9f9jGA2l1UaosHSg= Message-ID: <4E8DD175.3000108@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 18:04:05 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9.2.22) Gecko/20110902 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.14 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? References: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112176 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 16:06:53 +0000 (UTC) Am 06.10.2011 16:52, schrieb tEd ® KiLLiAn: > like. We baby boomers never got our jetpacks, monorails, bubble houses, or robot housemaids. What you gave us was better. You will be missed more than you will know. Sorry to disagree here, but I'd prefer a jetpack, a bubble house (whatever that is) and especially a robot housemaid to a computerized notepad that ceases to function if I leave it in the sun for too long, yet requires me to register with an online store selling stupid tunes and ripping off artists in the process. Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 6 16:22:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8565183474; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 16:22:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-10-06_06:2011-10-06,2011-10-06,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1110060168 Subject: Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 09:22:23 -0700 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: <0CC15FD9-9CD8-4870-9E53-F48488982F88@mac.com> References: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112177 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 16:22:40 +0000 (UTC) I knew him and worked with him. He was the most amazingly driven and = inspiring team leader I have ever known. He scared the sh*t out of me = while inspiring my best work. =20 Long Live his Legacy Daniel On Oct 6, 2011, at 7:52 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > RIP Steve Jobs. Without you our lives would not at all be the same. = You were one of those rare gifts that providence grants each era, = totally transforming everything we thought we knew what the future was = going to be like. We baby boomers never got our jetpacks, monorails, = bubble houses, or robot housemaids. What you gave us was better. You = will be missed more than you will know. >=20 > On Oct 5, 2011, at 7:29 PM, doody wrote: >=20 >> Would we yet wait for the phrase, "user friendly"? >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 6 17:20:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB117183465; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 17:20:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=o+a7ZQ3TXOX7fziAZG10HTWY2JTchSd9L+5RkNMj6RU=; b=kuqb7ABlxG5qCZ2mDDp161oUY9X6H4XVZt9XXB8iCB3qLgfKoGtnggae5B9Z2jZsrL Tbsn2jmCyuPaAIc8+/D8dmJQ48phJ9CrBGeXDZuaUEB4NUdlYJpKD1qJrGmKuqGFGBnC iPYb3hs3Cu4j46ytNMf2Lq5nLIULIiWl6ELWY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4E8DD175.3000108@googlemail.com> References: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> <4E8DD175.3000108@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 18:20:32 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <7m-PkC.A.sYH.kNejOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112178 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 17:20:36 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: "a computerized notepad that ceases to function if I leave it in the sun for too long, yet requires me to register with an online store selling stupid tunes and ripping off artists in the process." jeez man, leave any tech in the sun too long and it'll get hot. and are you talking about iTunes? selling stupid tunes? ripping off artists? i sell my stuff through iTunes, thank you very much and my music isn't stupid (i don't think) and i'm not being ripped off. and you don't have to register, unless you want to use it. and if you don't like apple stuff, why didn't you get a blackberry? this sounds like sniping for the sake of it... i happen to love apple stuff but even if i didn't, i'd be sad to see such an innovator pass away so young. even if you don't like apple stuff, their developments forced tons of other companies to create competing products, so you can still go out and buy a tablet, or a smartphone today and you wouldn't be able to if apple had never existed. i also love pixar movies and they wouldn't exist without him, either. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 6 17:31:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D9D2C183474; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 17:31:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ozgYBSRvAaXL120BW3yP1RxVMRtIOFCFlpl4Rpfr4Jg=; b=AchrMv7U+Q/qdo+FWvlHAoNorUyoqpcGo2FV0z7akFvgoiJkr0rUG+b4j9F36Uor02 9Q5EhKMjS+bZnrvKu3qbaKS1zdLYXqUmzq3wUi8CdQ9shDo9CqBuQ9KoUuWHxUUIjt4o m7hzWASyXcmBJWy4g640OGbJMUURtJZrTl7HM= Message-ID: <4E8DE546.2060008@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 19:28:38 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9.2.22) Gecko/20110902 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.14 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? References: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> <4E8DD175.3000108@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <63FRiB.A.FnH.oXejOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112179 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 17:31:20 +0000 (UTC) Am 06.10.2011 19:20, schrieb Simeon Harris: > jeez man, leave any tech in the sun too long and it'll get hot. and Seems it's nitpick time for me now...I happen to have a block of writing paper and a pen (Kyocera, if you must know), and both continue to function no matter how long I leave them in the sun...;) -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 6 17:51:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D9D8B183466; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 17:51:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=/7mbBgcaUEbdXO+dNx9Y0P7uv4D+ZHYE6tT8B8CoLSY=; b=aClN6gITjwkCpczc05YjMReO3GLQnEdF8MifNAEVtUGMKqglcm49EaSk6nTBWMzFpj FCE8ERs3Cx0DM2PNN0BiF2J7hGWlZnyMDMwZ2aHWaMX/Pc+r8/XDy/lXklO4mJHByE1S 8Hrx6BVJ8UMYov3DHp1jOWOKhjQ7dpZkx/4dk= References: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> <4E8DD175.3000108@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <9B7294AF-37F2-4027-B2F1-0E089DF2FBCD@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8A306) From: Fabio_A Subject: Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 19:50:30 +0200 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112180 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 17:51:33 +0000 (UTC) Totally agree with you, Sim :-) -f Il giorno 06/ott/2011, alle ore 19:20, Simeon Harris ha scritto: > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Rainer Straschill > wrote: >=20 > "a computerized notepad that ceases to function if I leave it in the > sun for too long, yet requires me to register with an online store > selling stupid tunes and ripping off artists in the process." >=20 > jeez man, leave any tech in the sun too long and it'll get hot. and > are you talking about iTunes? selling stupid tunes? ripping off > artists? i sell my stuff through iTunes, thank you very much and my > music isn't stupid (i don't think) and i'm not being ripped off. and > you don't have to register, unless you want to use it. > and if you don't like apple stuff, why didn't you get a blackberry? >=20 > this sounds like sniping for the sake of it... >=20 > i happen to love apple stuff but even if i didn't, i'd be sad to see > such an innovator pass away so young. > even if you don't like apple stuff, their developments forced tons of > other companies to create competing products, so you can still go out > and buy a tablet, or a smartphone today and you wouldn't be able to if > apple had never existed. i also love pixar movies and they wouldn't > exist without him, either. >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 6 17:55:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1045018347A; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 17:55:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=82HigEUCVT0qMvZJ0QmisvDCtSYKV23NmaaSljvA0Ug=; b=TDG0qhD++QlYy0nvI8PiW4cOvegdDtOUCbI08f412J4cuNVNWoO8VSptEES0ziyjSg Nb2SxyxOg/7EeN66MNKOpFANlq4NN7ImG5dJOBVXsL2Co0cb/QBzaQIP2IuUfXd6FV5W AbwZrQ8922bzVzXZ2Eed7yPs+d/domyVcZdWY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4E8DE546.2060008@googlemail.com> References: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> <4E8DD175.3000108@googlemail.com> <4E8DE546.2060008@googlemail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 19:55:11 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: nl1TikmmijC32lVieBsl_20Pm7M Message-ID: Subject: Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305e287fd6e83604aea50741 Resent-Message-ID: <8sZZSD.A.9Q.TuejOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112181 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 17:55:31 +0000 (UTC) --20cf305e287fd6e83604aea50741 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yeah Rainer.. stop being a twat... The guy made pretty special products in a pretty special way, he got Pancreatic Cancer (correct me if Im wrong) which is not nice, as its pretty much the only remaining C, where the Docs have to say "Sorry mate, get yer life in order". There is absolutely no need to whinge on about a product he conceived of when, if you dont agree with it, you dont have to buy it. Admittedly iTunes is a bad deal for musical artists, but its not the only deal for artists. The Apps phenomenon is not purely an Apple thing, and whichever way you go, the big boy, whoever it is, will take a huge wedge. If you wanna sit and write your own code on a Linux you can... But you wont get any chicks! The guy died dude... show some sympathy please... Mark On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Am 06.10.2011 19:20, schrieb Simeon Harris: > > jeez man, leave any tech in the sun too long and it'll get hot. and >> > Seems it's nitpick time for me now...I happen to have a block of writing > paper and a pen (Kyocera, if you must know), and both continue to function > no matter how long I leave them in the sun...;) > > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --20cf305e287fd6e83604aea50741 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah Rainer.. stop being a twat...

The guy made pretty special produ= cts in a pretty special way, he got Pancreatic Cancer (correct me if Im wro= ng) which is not nice, as its pretty much the only remaining C, where the D= ocs have to say "Sorry mate, get yer life in order".

There is absolutely no need to whinge on about a product he conceived o= f when, if you dont agree with it, you dont have to buy it.

Admitted= ly iTunes is a bad deal for musical artists, but its not the only deal for = artists.

The Apps phenomenon is not purely an Apple thing, and whichever way you= go, the big boy, whoever it is, will take a huge wedge. If you wanna sit a= nd write your own code on a Linux you can... But you wont get any chicks!
The guy died dude... show some sympathy please...

Mark

= =A0

On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Raine= r Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
Am 06.10.2011 19:20, schrieb Simeon Harris:=

jeez man, leave any tech in the sun too long and it'll get hot. and
Seems it's nitpick time for me now...I happen to have a block of writin= g paper and a pen (Kyocera, if you must know), and both continue to functio= n no matter how long I leave them in the sun...;)



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Mark Francombe
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www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe

--20cf305e287fd6e83604aea50741-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 6 17:59:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 76B96183474; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 17:59:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 434958.98041.bm@omp1068.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1317923991; bh=lZdKF1/ioAeu6lBBIIEDdqh3JozelKOXIwt7iWdSsck=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OVsBTSAlnT3S7AENj1ISR+QAKsb5JjQg7iYn5qp48oNXoUtWisovn/vMuTGm8p7zz6FGy2IeL4jbSMZlALWndVX7+hxfoOJqDbOLKkYjkBsjJx1ZREpIp7JO+qOrvmk1cHCFx8GeaC4rohPxFk4rq3hQM5YLEgLOI8+bDa6khXQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=K7YXlU5lfYQVsG7DEo8BVEMQ7RVXw1R5LIrNYRxNmiNqPvX+OvFr3TWRohsvI1wW2716316K/sun0+DMvr0zIv2CDiCgWoJGeqslm0tnqFLl6RWZzr/VD07r57cgsKWrOuX5Mi0YUWjvt/WU2Wzcz2sPpIDprfGBw4HzwT5KJBE=; X-YMail-OSG: gv6or_cVM1kbyACnY6rt8ulXx9IJsmU2uZsuAlckk3N2EGG spcqf4aifvs.VWRr1ZnM9m4AzNw9wYAleTr12zB9fnsXPEjEf.dtewY3KxAC qSkW1VLGff0mkEXb9p8GqNVc5DMgB8Tx.SOY45gT4aeclUlZ48tx0caeirg9 effar1aBEZ5Z0v_XypfXfdd5sQktt6.7_mxaN_Qwk8A73cvYWovpQkCj41aU _wwIpNKbX6TcCV71K3TLRph.JTolwt_RfpUqo.IhaThqZ5qhpc5XV32eUWv3 a_oIXkazkT7mYUfBnTXK.99JRok.fvVNmt7VWCgoFzFqB2Y7fH.FKFEnHVcu BTDm6cexAWrUUau_Svje27YuxDD7rUUAKy1vcCxJQxOktIgov.VNqni.2oh6 W9s1bQpzlHJg9r_opP9_Auf_CaOsTdfmiAMh9oppbJSv_O.ef0Yk.Lyth8WZ Q7tFE3I4rQf_OH.EG2X5BH4w3 X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.114.317681 References: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> <4E8DD175.3000108@googlemail.com> <9B7294AF-37F2-4027-B2F1-0E089DF2FBCD@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1317923991.29315.YahooMailNeo@web32503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 10:59:51 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Reply-To: bill bigrig Subject: Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9B7294AF-37F2-4027-B2F1-0E089DF2FBCD@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-495408613-794630099-1317923991=:29315" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112182 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 17:59:53 +0000 (UTC) ---495408613-794630099-1317923991=:29315 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Howdy, I have the feeling the if Mr. Jobs had not come along, someone such as Commodore or Atari would have gotten around to it. Witness the MIDI ports on the Ataris. The SIDs on the Commodores. Not to take away from Mr. Jobs, but it still would have happened. The only difference is the possibility that it would have happened in a way that a certain fellow named Gates could have "bundled" it and put the other entity out of business. Rig ________________________________ From: Fabio_A <eterogenus@gmail.com> To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 10:50 AM Subject: Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? Totally agree with you, Sim :-) -f Il giorno 06/ott/2011, alle ore 19:20, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> ha scritto: > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Rainer Straschill > <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote: > > "a computerized notepad that ceases to function if I leave it in the > sun for too long, yet requires me to register with an online store > selling stupid tunes and ripping off artists in the process." > > jeez man, leave any tech in the sun too long and it'll get hot. and > are you talking about iTunes? selling stupid tunes? ripping off > artists? i sell my stuff through iTunes, thank you very much and my > music isn't stupid (i don't think) and i'm not being ripped off. and > you don't have to register, unless you want to use it. > and if you don't like apple stuff, why didn't you get a blackberry? > > this sounds like sniping for the sake of it... > > i happen to love apple stuff but even if i didn't, i'd be sad to see > such an innovator pass away so young. > even if you don't like apple stuff, their developments forced tons of > other companies to create competing products, so you can still go out > and buy a tablet, or a smartphone today and you wouldn't be able to if > apple had never existed. i also love pixar movies and they wouldn't > exist without him, either. > ---495408613-794630099-1317923991=:29315 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Howdy,

I have the feeling the if Mr. Jobs had not come along, someone such as Commodore or Atari would have gotten around to it. Witness the MIDI ports on the Ataris. The SIDs on the Commodores. Not to take away from Mr. Jobs, but it still would have happened. The only difference is the possibility that it would have happened in a way that a certain fellow named Gates could have "bundled" it and put the other entity out of business.
Rig

From: Fabio_A <eterogenus@gmail.com>
To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been?

Totally agree with you, Sim
:-)

-f




Il giorno 06/ott/2011, alle ore 19:20, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> ha scritto:

> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Rainer Straschill
> <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> "a computerized notepad that ceases to function if I leave it in the
> sun for too long, yet requires me to register with an online store
> selling stupid tunes and ripping off artists in the process."
>
> jeez man, leave any tech in the sun too long and it'll get hot. and
> are you talking about iTunes? selling stupid tunes? ripping off
> artists? i sell my stuff through iTunes, thank you very much and my
> music isn't stupid (i don't think) and i'm not being ripped off. and
> you don't have to register, unless you want to use it.
> and if you don't like apple stuff, why didn't you get a blackberry?
>
> this sounds like sniping for the sake of it...
>
> i happen to love apple stuff but even if i didn't, i'd be sad to see
> such an innovator pass away so young.
> even if you don't like apple stuff, their developments forced tons of
> other companies to create competing products, so you can still go out
> and buy a tablet, or a smartphone today and you wouldn't be able to if
> apple had never existed. i also love pixar movies and they wouldn't
> exist without him, either.
>



---495408613-794630099-1317923991=:29315-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 6 18:15:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 981D118348A; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 18:15:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E8DF04D.6000409@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 14:15:41 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112183 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 18:15:44 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long Special Focus on Steve Roach. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Live at Grace Cathedral" by Steve Roach on Timeroom Editions. Details are at the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#oct Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org/listen on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 6 21:22:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57C9318347A; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 21:22:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> <4E8DD175.3000108@googlemail.com> <4E8DE546.2060008@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 22:22:41 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01CC8476.762F4B00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3538.513 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3538.513 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112184 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 21:22:38 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01CC8476.762F4B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ah, sorry, got to step in here. Jobs didn=E2=80=99t MAKE anything. He = evangelized it. When Wozniak was creating the Apple computer, Jobs was = hustling for the money to keep making it. He was a great evangelist for = Apple, a great frontman. But he didn=E2=80=99t =E2=80=98make=E2=80=99 = anything. From: mark francombe=20 Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 6:55 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? Yeah Rainer.. stop being a twat... The guy made pretty special products in a pretty special way, he got = Pancreatic Cancer (correct me if Im wrong) which is not nice, as its = pretty much the only remaining C, where the Docs have to say "Sorry = mate, get yer life in order". There is absolutely no need to whinge on about a product he conceived of = when, if you dont agree with it, you dont have to buy it. Admittedly iTunes is a bad deal for musical artists, but its not the = only deal for artists. The Apps phenomenon is not purely an Apple thing, and whichever way you = go, the big boy, whoever it is, will take a huge wedge. If you wanna sit = and write your own code on a Linux you can... But you wont get any = chicks! The guy died dude... show some sympathy please... Mark =20 On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Rainer Straschill = wrote: Am 06.10.2011 19:20, schrieb Simeon Harris:=20 jeez man, leave any tech in the sun too long and it'll get hot. and Seems it's nitpick time for me now...I happen to have a block of = writing paper and a pen (Kyocera, if you must know), and both continue = to function no matter how long I leave them in the sun...;)=20 --=20 http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs --=20 Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01CC8476.762F4B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ah, sorry, got to step in here.  Jobs didn=E2=80=99t MAKE = anything.  He=20 evangelized it.  When Wozniak was creating the Apple computer, Jobs = was=20 hustling for the money to keep making it.  He was a great = evangelist for=20 Apple, a great frontman.  But he didn=E2=80=99t = =E2=80=98make=E2=80=99 anything.
 
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never=20 been?
 
Yeah=20 Rainer.. stop being a twat...

The guy made pretty special = products in a=20 pretty special way, he got Pancreatic Cancer (correct me if Im wrong) = which is=20 not nice, as its pretty much the only remaining C, where the Docs have = to say=20 "Sorry mate, get yer life in order".

There is absolutely no need = to=20 whinge on about a product he conceived of when, if you dont agree with = it, you=20 dont have to buy it.

Admittedly iTunes is a bad deal for musical = artists,=20 but its not the only deal for artists.

The Apps phenomenon is not = purely=20 an Apple thing, and whichever way you go, the big boy, whoever it is, = will take=20 a huge wedge. If you wanna sit and write your own code on a Linux you = can... But=20 you wont get any chicks!

The guy died dude... show some sympathy=20 please...

Mark

 

On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Rainer = Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com>= =20 wrote:
Am 06.10.2011 19:20, schrieb Simeon Harris:=20

jeez man, leave any tech in the sun too long and = it'll get=20 hot. and
Seems it's nitpick time for me = now...I happen=20 to have a block of writing paper and a pen (Kyocera, if you must = know), and=20 both continue to function no matter how long I leave them in the = sun...;)=20


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------=_NextPart_000_002D_01CC8476.762F4B00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 6 22:12:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20F6E183478; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 22:12:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fd7XqAQ0hx4Ckyhcv4P04V3ze5HfhUq1KLSXpdYdgqk=; b=MqoqvjnwMrffXJszswF0jBRLnvtt49hUHgStURN9bH0C+ojn7H8gk+tpf6Cw4EURKA QPaZZxj/oZY22di4t2WiBkmY53Qvl67w33Onu1JbIrV4FfSCR7v7UxaxCYpkrWvhLPqx u3Rkf/MHpu3bp/5Ic7QG5Q59c8xT2KvMcKPuk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> <4E8DD175.3000108@googlemail.com> <4E8DE546.2060008@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 18:12:21 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112185 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 22:12:22 +0000 (UTC) > Ah, sorry, got to step in here. =A0Jobs didn=92t MAKE anything. =A0He eva= ngelized> it. =A0When Wozniak was creating the Apple computer, Jobs was hus= tling for the> money to keep making it. =A0He was a great evangelist for Ap= ple, a great> frontman. =A0But he didn=92t =91make=92 anything.> He made things happen. He wasn't just hanging out with people who made macs, pixar movies and NeXTCubes. In fact NeXT and OpenStep are probably his biggest legacies (these are things OS X are made of). It's putting a lot of faith in coincidence to believe he didn't make any of it happen... he wasn't all about the money. He founded NeXT and I doubt he just hired a bunch of guys and told them " here's some money, please make something awesome for me and I'll sell it very well." NeXT made some great computers (for the time) but I don't believe they sold very well. Sylvain From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 6 22:16:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7542C183489; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 22:16:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ma+p8wqRESpUhHRLXZlEJVWB9OJ5/025PSQ2VZRBdU8=; b=a9kPDJlM2/QOgXcKnOZUOx96d30okp61t/9GqsiF4RMD/wnQ8NL5pzCeeArrPwM1Nw 3JZjlxXduykRgtVGg0vWKueweCb+91oa0NVpYy9UIL2ggIZMs/ckMYozFus/FlRW08sa 0Nmfq3NJX1W8Ap6lQw83CgT2TWWHhG2xhZxts= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> <4E8DD175.3000108@googlemail.com> <4E8DE546.2060008@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 16:16:02 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112186 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 22:16:03 +0000 (UTC) Nah, Mr. Goodman's right =97 Steve Jobs didn't: http://www.asymco.com/2011/10/06/steve-jobs-didnt/?utm_source=3Dfeedburner&= utm_medium=3Dfeed&utm_campaign=3DFeed:+Asymco+(asymco)&utm_content=3DGoogle= +Reader (Enjoy) Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: >> Ah, sorry, got to step in here. =A0Jobs didn=92t MAKE anything. =A0He ev= angelized> it. =A0When Wozniak was creating the Apple computer, Jobs was hu= stling for the> money to keep making it. =A0He was a great evangelist for A= pple, a great> frontman. =A0But he didn=92t =91make=92 anything.> > > He made things happen. =A0He wasn't just hanging out with people who > made macs, pixar movies and NeXTCubes. =A0In fact NeXT and OpenStep are > probably his biggest legacies (these are things OS X are made of). > It's putting a lot of faith in coincidence to believe he didn't make > any of it happen... =A0he wasn't all about the money. =A0 He founded NeXT > and I doubt he just hired a bunch of guys and told them " here's some > money, please make something awesome for me and I'll sell it very > well." =A0NeXT made some great computers (for the time) but I don't > believe they sold very well. > > Sylvain > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 6 22:23:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE3F318348D; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 22:23:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6jfKkuGNVxcT9v2sWwpBqoKSgotci/zJEVAn9txxTvo=; b=gj4dX/wSAKeQ6i0/3dKC8Rn6uCL8Zf1/+PTjYWdf7XyrGLcsR3jp+IJclc/GeBST8g NPt1CBzUb3r5OGY3mzSSsB5tvuvy/Ljg+D0vhMbR3lBYBZelsktZ7DIDIHoKjy9GibB0 SRa4LT+zCs6H3EJNKWjFhxEChdMRsWB0qAXLE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> <4E8DD175.3000108@googlemail.com> <4E8DE546.2060008@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 18:23:14 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112187 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 22:23:15 +0000 (UTC) Sorry, but that was partly my point. Sylvain On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Dennis Moser wrot= e: > Nah, Mr. Goodman's right =97 Steve Jobs didn't: > > http://www.asymco.com/2011/10/06/steve-jobs-didnt/?utm_source=3Dfeedburne= r&utm_medium=3Dfeed&utm_campaign=3DFeed:+Asymco+(asymco)&utm_content=3DGoog= le+Reader > > (Enjoy) > > Best, > > Dennis > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Sylvain Poitras > wrote: >>> Ah, sorry, got to step in here. =A0Jobs didn=92t MAKE anything. =A0He e= vangelized> it. =A0When Wozniak was creating the Apple computer, Jobs was h= ustling for the> money to keep making it. =A0He was a great evangelist for = Apple, a great> frontman. =A0But he didn=92t =91make=92 anything.> >> >> He made things happen. =A0He wasn't just hanging out with people who >> made macs, pixar movies and NeXTCubes. =A0In fact NeXT and OpenStep are >> probably his biggest legacies (these are things OS X are made of). >> It's putting a lot of faith in coincidence to believe he didn't make >> any of it happen... =A0he wasn't all about the money. =A0 He founded NeX= T >> and I doubt he just hired a bunch of guys and told them " here's some >> money, please make something awesome for me and I'll sell it very >> well." =A0NeXT made some great computers (for the time) but I don't >> believe they sold very well. >> >> Sylvain >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 6 22:23:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 437B218348F; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 22:23:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UfnDk+d0odeahECqWzs2uqrvHjVXsZjoeNOOCM6AvSE=; b=mJdh9h+mR3T4UOgZVMm3bfPWc1cxx/Ir2aks9TYaPfIugmPK6diqnbRh4OxHiexPUM l9W7Ny5unkrIRhenLCDnKER7C0oDDCFEQvr/qcFzCMSUE9fvaWNOJWFKGXjjbq4wSr/1 Sdo7lBwduWc8B+9Ir+P5CL5tiDO2c/y6lgq4s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> <4E8DD175.3000108@googlemail.com> <4E8DE546.2060008@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 15:23:35 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112188 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 22:23:37 +0000 (UTC) No offense, but this list strikes me as an attempt at being clever that just comes off as pedantic rubbish. Steve Jobs did not create products. He created an organization that predictably and reliably created emotionally resonant products. Steve Jobs did not make movies. He made a company that predictably and reliably made blockbusters. Steve Jobs did not wrest market share from competitors. He created new markets that attracted and sustained competitors. Steve Jobs did not design anything. He gave others the freedom to think about what jobs products are hired to do. Steve Jobs did not re-engineer processes. He brought engineering processes to works of creativity and the creative process to engineering. Steve Jobs did not develop new management theories. He showed by example that innovation can be managed. Steve Jobs was not a visionary. He put the dots together and saw where they led. Steve Jobs was not a futurist. He just built the future one piece at a = time. Steve Jobs did not distort reality. He spoke what he believed would become reality at a time when those beliefs seemed far fetched. Steve Jobs was not charismatic. He spoke from the heart compelling others to follow him. Steve Jobs was not a gifted orator. He spoke plainly. Steve Jobs was not a magician. He practiced, a lot. Kevin On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Dennis Moser wrot= e: > Nah, Mr. Goodman's right =97 Steve Jobs didn't: > > http://www.asymco.com/2011/10/06/steve-jobs-didnt/?utm_source=3Dfeedburne= r&utm_medium=3Dfeed&utm_campaign=3DFeed:+Asymco+(asymco)&utm_content=3DGoog= le+Reader > > (Enjoy) > > Best, > > Dennis > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Sylvain Poitras > wrote: >>> Ah, sorry, got to step in here. =A0Jobs didn=92t MAKE anything. =A0He e= vangelized> it. =A0When Wozniak was creating the Apple computer, Jobs was h= ustling for the> money to keep making it. =A0He was a great evangelist for = Apple, a great> frontman. =A0But he didn=92t =91make=92 anything.> >> >> He made things happen. =A0He wasn't just hanging out with people who >> made macs, pixar movies and NeXTCubes. =A0In fact NeXT and OpenStep are >> probably his biggest legacies (these are things OS X are made of). >> It's putting a lot of faith in coincidence to believe he didn't make >> any of it happen... =A0he wasn't all about the money. =A0 He founded NeX= T >> and I doubt he just hired a bunch of guys and told them " here's some >> money, please make something awesome for me and I'll sell it very >> well." =A0NeXT made some great computers (for the time) but I don't >> believe they sold very well. >> >> Sylvain >> >> > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 6 22:28:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 447EA183490; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 22:28:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2212 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 22:28:33 UTC From: To: References: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> <4E8DD175.3000108@googlemail.com> <4E8DE546.2060008@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 16:51:37 -0500 Message-ID: <015101cc8472$20a84aa0$61f8dfe0$@michaelplishka.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0152_01CC8448.37D48C90" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQEG0B6kXYsCeWqjJoZtcGBJG0FeOQHSSsPoAfRa9oEBfK3WAAFJj00NAgYCMjsA19hPr5av6rZg Content-Language: en-us X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: <-MbkEC.A.I8E.RuijOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112189 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 22:28:34 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0152_01CC8448.37D48C90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thinking about words that describe Steve Jobs. =20 Evangelizer Synthesizer Designer Visionary Businessman Authentic =20 =20 I agree with some of the other folks. GUI's would've happened = regardless. Parallel development in technology is bizarrely, and = frustratingly, common. Even iTunes- remember Napster? It was one of = the first steps in the directions of iTunes. =20 SJ had a great ability to "steal with his eyes" then pull it all = together and roll it out as something else that appealed to the sense of = simplicity and beauty in all people - then charge a premium for it. =20 There are other things that he did that weren't necessarily things I'd = want my children to do - but his path was his and he lived it = profoundly. =20 RIP =20 "So long, and thanks for all the fish" =20 =20 Plish =20 =20 =20 Michael Plishka www.michaelplishka.com www.scribbledmusings.com www.zenstorming.com =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0152_01CC8448.37D48C90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thinking about words that describe Steve = Jobs.

 

Evangelizer

Synthesizer

Designer

Visionary

Businessman

Authentic

 

 

I agree with some of the other folks.=C2=A0 GUI's would've happened = regardless.=C2=A0 Parallel development in technology is bizarrely, and = frustratingly, common. =C2=A0Even iTunes- remember Napster?=C2=A0 It was = one of the first steps in the directions of = iTunes.

 

SJ had a great ability to "steal with his eyes" then pull = it all together and roll it out as something else that appealed to the = sense of simplicity and beauty in all people - then charge a premium for = it.

 

There are other things that he did that weren't necessarily things = I'd want my children to do - but his path was his and he lived it = profoundly.

 

RIP

 

"So long, and thanks for all the = fish"

 

 

Plish

 

 

 

Michael Plishka

www.michaelplishka.com

www.scribbledmusings.com

www.zenstorming.com

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_0152_01CC8448.37D48C90-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 6 23:47:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2D9E18348D; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 23:47:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net><4E8DD175.3000108@googlemail.com><4E8DE546.2060008@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 00:47:23 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3538.513 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3538.513 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112190 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 23:47:20 +0000 (UTC) Or attempted deification? -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Cheli-Colando Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 11:23 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? No offense, but this list strikes me as an attempt at being clever that just comes off as pedantic rubbish. Steve Jobs did not create products. He created an organization that predictably and reliably created emotionally resonant products. Steve Jobs did not make movies. He made a company that predictably and reliably made blockbusters. Steve Jobs did not wrest market share from competitors. He created new markets that attracted and sustained competitors. Steve Jobs did not design anything. He gave others the freedom to think about what jobs products are hired to do. Steve Jobs did not re-engineer processes. He brought engineering processes to works of creativity and the creative process to engineering. Steve Jobs did not develop new management theories. He showed by example that innovation can be managed. Steve Jobs was not a visionary. He put the dots together and saw where they led. Steve Jobs was not a futurist. He just built the future one piece at a time. Steve Jobs did not distort reality. He spoke what he believed would become reality at a time when those beliefs seemed far fetched. Steve Jobs was not charismatic. He spoke from the heart compelling others to follow him. Steve Jobs was not a gifted orator. He spoke plainly. Steve Jobs was not a magician. He practiced, a lot. Kevin On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Dennis Moser wrote: > Nah, Mr. Goodman's right — Steve Jobs didn't: > > http://www.asymco.com/2011/10/06/steve-jobs-didnt/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+Asymco+(asymco)&utm_content=Google+Reader > > (Enjoy) > > Best, > > Dennis > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Sylvain Poitras > wrote: >>> Ah, sorry, got to step in here. Jobs didn’t MAKE anything. He >>> evangelized> it. When Wozniak was creating the Apple computer, Jobs was >>> hustling for the> money to keep making it. He was a great evangelist >>> for Apple, a great> frontman. But he didn’t ‘make’ anything.> >> >> He made things happen. He wasn't just hanging out with people who >> made macs, pixar movies and NeXTCubes. In fact NeXT and OpenStep are >> probably his biggest legacies (these are things OS X are made of). >> It's putting a lot of faith in coincidence to believe he didn't make >> any of it happen... he wasn't all about the money. He founded NeXT >> and I doubt he just hired a bunch of guys and told them " here's some >> money, please make something awesome for me and I'll sell it very >> well." NeXT made some great computers (for the time) but I don't >> believe they sold very well. >> >> Sylvain >> >> > > -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 7 00:34:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9ACA183498; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 00:34:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 7032 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 00:34:32 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=XWD5/VRj2HUJOhsR8cgmvPBlhMACpZXxseY1Kn/ehQI= c=1 sm=0 a=7HKktpRrDbgA:10 a=5UBfXvP3Od8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Pq5w6/OiCe8pl5iuHRIo4A==:17 a=hkEQo9qjAAAA:8 a=MotFZId2AAAA:8 a=ZPmXoD64KdJgS8bvVJ0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=4q_kQQmmVIUA:10 a=iboFNtL947oA:10 a=Pq5w6/OiCe8pl5iuHRIo4A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 66.25.180.248 From: Victor Eijkhout Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Off to do some looping ok OK Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 17:37:19 -0500 Message-Id: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112191 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 00:34:32 +0000 (UTC) I'll be doing some looping on Native American Flute at the Medicine Park = Flute Festival. I'll be on stage sat by 3:30. I doubt that anyone here = will be in the neighbourhood but I thought I'd mention it anyway. http://www.medicinepark.com/Flute.php Here's a preview, not involving looping but my new EH Freeze: http://eijkhout.net/mp3s/loop/moonbeam.mp3 Victor. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 7 01:51:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A26C18349A; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 01:51:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=CKBBFOpPYfBSFfEY1Rl9efxuAv/fdt7oFsWUUq3BrLQ= c=1 sm=1 a=BiXzNe4w_98A:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:17 a=zJaDf1sIGG2ABbXpeBwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 18:51:08 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9F9A407C-8816-46EC-8558-B46BED6980A9@charter.net> References: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> <4E8DD175.3000108@googlemail.com> <4E8DE546.2060008@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112192 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 01:51:10 +0000 (UTC) I think it's an interesting and noteworthy phenomenon, how in many of = the places I've visited online today where people were personally making = an effort and in their own word memorializing Steve's Jobs' impact on = their lives following the announcement of his death . . . and no matter = what, there was always one person who pops up there who wants to piss = all over the proceedings. That's humanity for you.= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 7 01:57:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30B7B18349F; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 01:57:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ssdlmuvjkLEZiEYmTNUptmugl7dijAYRaFnf81ueRQI=; b=kwqGZo0are+OJU+Z47Q8nkbvwqE45NfLUFN2zHy6pI7gayYFJiKA6MnfWmAsdxDWHb wfYywWHqxMsUaY6j/f6bymKgjNaLaoFXHfrjQLOjo1/f7rKMS2gs0aGv7SN/0Ms6Posw 4vv14WQ/AaTjMSdQqUsDDzdqSug7rUmeVakAc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9F9A407C-8816-46EC-8558-B46BED6980A9@charter.net> References: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> <4E8DD175.3000108@googlemail.com> <4E8DE546.2060008@googlemail.com> <9F9A407C-8816-46EC-8558-B46BED6980A9@charter.net> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 19:57:32 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112193 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 01:57:34 +0000 (UTC) Ted, You probably also saw the guy over on G+ who was doing exactly that, going on at length about capitalist running dogs, etc., and only reaffirming my lack of faith in most of humanity. There's a wonderful old quote that I first encountered as having been on a New England tombstone: "As you are now, I once was. As I am now, you'll one day be." Pretty much sums it up for all, assholes and angels alike. Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:51 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wr= ote: > I think it's an interesting and noteworthy phenomenon, how in many of the= places I've visited online today where people were personally making an ef= fort and in their own word memorializing Steve's Jobs' impact on their live= s following the announcement of his death . . . and no matter what, there w= as always one person who pops up there who wants to piss all over the proce= edings. That's humanity for you. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 7 02:19:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 571A218349A; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 02:19:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <246CC1436FC84B26A4C830E358A2E243@ELUK1> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> <4E8DD175.3000108@googlemail.com> <4E8DE546.2060008@googlemail.com> <9F9A407C-8816-46EC-8558-B46BED6980A9@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <9F9A407C-8816-46EC-8558-B46BED6980A9@charter.net> Subject: Re: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 03:18:00 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3538.513 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3538.513 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112194 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 02:19:23 +0000 (UTC) Well, we're all entitled to our opinions nonetheless. To some he was a God, to others far less. -----Original Message----- From: tEd ® KiLLiAn Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 2:51 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? I think it's an interesting and noteworthy phenomenon, how in many of the places I've visited online today where people were personally making an effort and in their own word memorializing Steve's Jobs' impact on their lives following the announcement of his death . . . and no matter what, there was always one person who pops up there who wants to piss all over the proceedings. That's humanity for you. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 7 04:29:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6816C18347A; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 04:29:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3616 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 04:29:43 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-10-07_01:2011-10-06,2011-10-07,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1110060348 Subject: Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? From: kenn lowy In-reply-to: <20111006222338.A2C39183491@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 23:29:17 -0400 Message-id: References: <20111006222338.A2C39183491@arsenic.violacea.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112195 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 04:29:43 +0000 (UTC) It's easy to say "someone would have come up with...". But they didn't, Steve Jobs did. And let's not forget, his computers, from very early on, were directed towards artists. He saw things differently, whether you liked him or not, I think that's just a fact. He saw a mouse at Xerox parc and thought this was the way people should interact with a computer. Xerox didn't get it, Steve did. The iPhone and it's OS changed the way phones work now. Steve threw out one prototype after another until it met his standard. The iPad was something he believed in. He even acknowledged that he had no idea who the audience was, but he knew there was one. He was right about that too. Whenever someone young (I consider 56 to be young) dies of Cancer, it's a tragedy to their family and friends. In this case, it is that and much more. The world lost an amazing innovator. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 7 04:57:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7ABD18347A; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 04:57:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ZQf6LmlzX8YnwoReUxzrJBA1nMccmzOjnoVukI26gnM=; b=jp4NjpcEGryJkYe4ovM1QO5qn7pasnHV2jz3PQJftniSyORET9Zk8DPhGfRDwQiL+K 9LGlBQoWVWpXZJsSGU9q2Vq1EBdJWvNRIVWH9inxjZIwH1C+D3vg4wlBR4FcPmt8+V12 AjAk1UseWGVVjhREpahCByUtRYrSvpdACDjVo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 21:57:45 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Off to do some looping ok OK From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e65b413e2b819104aeae48fd Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112196 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 04:57:47 +0000 (UTC) --0016e65b413e2b819104aeae48fd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Speaking of the freeze, I've discovered I have to cool it with my EH Freeze a little bit. The most common thing I was doing to was freezing my electronic tom sound, which creates a sine-wave sound which is apparently painful to everyone except me. On typical drum kit sounds, it requires a tricky bit of timing, but can be pretty rad. I'm at a show at the moment, so I can't listen to the mp3 just yet, but I'm curious about how well it does with flute. -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt Victor Eijkhout was all: > I'll be doing some looping on Native American Flute at the Medicine Park > Flute Festival. I'll be on stage sat by 3:30. I doubt that anyone here will > be in the neighbourhood but I thought I'd mention it anyway. > > http://www.medicinepark.com/Flute.php > > Here's a preview, not involving looping but my new EH Freeze: > > http://eijkhout.net/mp3s/loop/moonbeam.mp3 > > Victor. > > --0016e65b413e2b819104aeae48fd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Speaking of the freeze, I've discovered I have to cool it with my EH Fr= eeze a little bit. The most common thing I was doing to was freezing my ele= ctronic tom sound, which creates a sine-wave sound which is apparently pain= ful to everyone except me. On typical drum kit sounds, it requires a tricky= bit of timing, but can be pretty rad.

I'm at a show at the moment, so I can't listen to the mp3 just = yet, but I'm curious about how well it does with flute.


--
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemus= ic.com
Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com
Rigs! http://www.youtube.= com/user/ribosomematt

Victor Eijkhout <victor@eijkhout.net> was all= :
I'll be doing some looping on Native American Flute at the Medicine Par= k Flute Festival. I'll be on stage sat by 3:30. I doubt that anyone her= e will be in the neighbourhood but I thought I'd mention it anyway.

http://= www.medicinepark.com/Flute.php

Here's a preview, not involving looping but my new EH Freeze:

ht= tp://eijkhout.net/mp3s/loop/moonbeam.mp3

Victor.



--0016e65b413e2b819104aeae48fd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 7 05:40:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7954C18348C; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 05:40:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E8E9089.1010606@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 22:39:21 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110920 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? References: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040301020300090409050605" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112197 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 05:40:58 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040301020300090409050605 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, tEd ® KiLLiAn wrote: > RIP Steve Jobs. Without you our lives would not at all be the same. You were one of those rare gifts that providence grants each era, totally transforming everything we thought we knew what the future was going to be like. We baby boomers never got our jetpacks, monorails, bubble houses, or robot housemaids. What you gave us was better. You will be missed more than you will know. This is the single most eloquent, beautiful and heart rending obituary that I've read about the amazing Steve Jobs (and I've read dozens in the last two days). Thanks for making me pause, think and remember with both sadness and fondness. Rick --------------040301020300090409050605 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, tEd ® KiLLiAn wrote:
RIP Steve Jobs. Without you our lives would not at all be the same. You were one of those rare gifts that providence grants each era, totally transforming everything we thought we knew what the future was going to be like. We baby boomers never got our jetpacks, monorails, bubble houses, or robot housemaids. What you gave us was better. You will be missed more than you will know.

This is the single most eloquent, beautiful and heart rending obituary that I've read about
the amazing Steve Jobs (and I've read dozens in the last two days).     Thanks for making me pause, think and remember with both sadness and fondness.

Rick
--------------040301020300090409050605-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 7 06:04:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C850E183486; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 06:04:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E8E9600.5040704@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 23:02:40 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110920 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simeon Harris CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090901000003020009010802" Resent-Message-ID: <-87x_B.A.YqC.eZpjOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112198 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 06:04:14 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090901000003020009010802 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > i happen to love apple stuff but even if i didn't, i'd be sad to see > such an innovator pass away so young. I'm with you here, Simeon. No ifs, ands or buts............he had a huge impact on our world and , consequently on the way we work, communicate and think. Personally, I abhor iTunes. Of course, Jobs didn't begin this way of thinking (Napster did), but what I dislike is that iTunes has the arrogance to tell artists what they are able to charge for their products. They are so ubiquitous so one doesn't really have the ability to chose another vendor to sell stuff. In other words, it hurts sales for those who could charge more and it deprives sales and exposure from new artists who don't have the 'clout' to sell a song for 99 cents. IMHO, an artist should have the ability through supply and demand, to charge whatever they want for a download: not according to iTunes where 99 cents is the law. But life is complex and things have to be seen in shades of gray. Steve Jobs deserves a ton of credit for his vision despite the fact that I, personally, have a few beefs with the way Apple has gone in the last five years........... I believe he deserves our gratitude for his impact on culture. Rick Walker --------------090901000003020009010802 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:
i happen to love apple stuff but even if i didn't, i'd be sad to see
such an innovator pass away so young.
I'm with you here, Simeon.

No ifs, ands or buts............he had a huge impact on our world and , consequently on the
way we work, communicate and think.

Personally,  I abhor iTunes.    Of course,  Jobs didn't begin this way of thinking (Napster did),
but what I dislike is that iTunes has the arrogance to tell artists what they are able to
charge for their products.

They are so ubiquitous so one doesn't really have the ability to chose another vendor to sell stuff.
In other words,  it hurts sales for those who could charge more and it deprives sales and exposure
from new artists who don't have the 'clout' to sell a song for 99 cents.

IMHO, an artist should have the ability through supply and demand, to charge whatever they want for
a download:   not according to iTunes where 99 cents is the law.

But life is complex and things have to be seen in shades of gray.

Steve Jobs deserves a ton of credit for his vision despite the fact that I, personally, have a few
beefs with the way Apple has gone in the last five years...........

I believe he deserves our gratitude for his impact on culture.

Rick Walker
--------------090901000003020009010802-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 7 07:06:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 885E7183489; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 07:06:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_98e38a3d-45fd-4dd1-acdf-d578daaccc26_" X-Originating-IP: [86.165.53.2] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 07:06:23 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,<2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net>,<4E8DD175.3000108@googlemail.com>,,<4E8DE546.2060008@googlemail.com>,,<9F9A407C-8816-46EC-8558-B46BED6980A9@charter.net>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Oct 2011 07:06:23.0882 (UTC) FILETIME=[9FA396A0:01CC84BF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112199 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 07:06:25 +0000 (UTC) --_98e38a3d-45fd-4dd1-acdf-d578daaccc26_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I heard a Steve Jobs' speech today on the BBC. He gave it to students at St= anford University following the discovery of his first tumour.It was profou= nd. Given from the point of view of a man who had looked death in the face.= Here's a transcript:http://news.stanford.edu/news/2005/june15/jobs-061505.= html Whatever you think of the man=2C read the section about death in this speec= h here if you care to.I was quite moved by it.On anther note.Here's another= gravestone poem that I fist saw on the tomb of a medieval knight in a smal= l seaside chapel in Oxwich bay=2C Wales.Remember me as you pass by=2CAs you= are now=2C so once was I=2CAs I am now=2C so you will be=2CPrepare for dea= th and follow me. Morbidly=2C Gareth. > Date: Thu=2C 6 Oct 2011 19:57:32 -0600 > Subject: Re: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? > From: sinsofmachaut@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Ted=2C >=20 > You probably also saw the guy over on G+ who was doing exactly that=2C > going on at length about capitalist running dogs=2C etc.=2C and only > reaffirming my lack of faith in most of humanity. >=20 > There's a wonderful old quote that I first encountered as having been > on a New England tombstone: >=20 > "As you are now=2C I once was. > As I am now=2C you'll one day be." >=20 > Pretty much sums it up for all=2C assholes and angels alike. >=20 > Best=2C >=20 > Dennis >=20 > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Thu=2C Oct 6=2C 2011 at 7:51 PM=2C tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > > I think it's an interesting and noteworthy phenomenon=2C how in many of= the places I've visited online today where people were personally making a= n effort and in their own word memorializing Steve's Jobs' impact on their = lives following the announcement of his death . . . and no matter what=2C t= here was always one person who pops up there who wants to piss all over the= proceedings. That's humanity for you. > > >=20 = --_98e38a3d-45fd-4dd1-acdf-d578daaccc26_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I heard a Steve Jobs' speech today on the BBC. He gave it to students at St= anford University following the discovery of his first tumour.
It was p= rofound. Given from the point of view of a man who had looked death in the = face. =3B
Here's a transcript:
http://news.stanford= .edu/news/2005/june15/jobs-061505.html

Whatever yo= u think of the man=2C read the section about death in this speech here if y= ou care to.
I was quite moved by it.
On anther note.
Here's another gravestone poem that I fist saw on the tomb of a med= ieval knight in a small seaside chapel in Oxwich bay=2C Wales.
=
Remember me as you pass by=2C
As you are now=2C so= once was I=2C
As I am now=2C so you will be=2C
=
Prepare for death and follow me.

<= /div>
Morbidly=2C Gareth.


>=3B Date: Thu=2C 6 = Oct 2011 19:57:32 -0600
>=3B Subject: Re: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... Wha= t if he had never been?
>=3B From: sinsofmachaut@gmail.com
>=3B T= o: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B Ted=2C
>= =3B
>=3B You probably also saw the guy over on G+ who was doing exact= ly that=2C
>=3B going on at length about capitalist running dogs=2C et= c.=2C and only
>=3B reaffirming my lack of faith in most of humanity.<= br>>=3B
>=3B There's a wonderful old quote that I first encountered= as having been
>=3B on a New England tombstone:
>=3B
>=3B = "As you are now=2C I once was.
>=3B As I am now=2C you'll one day be."=
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>=3B Pretty much sums it up for all=2C assholes and angels= alike.
>=3B
>=3B Best=2C
>=3B
>=3B Dennis
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>=3B http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin
>=3B http://audiozoloft.com>=3B http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/
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>=3B >=3B On Thu=2C Oct 6=2C 2011 at 7:51 PM=2C tEd =AE KiLLiAn <=3Btedkil= lian@charter.net>=3B wrote:
>=3B >=3B I think it's an interesting = and noteworthy phenomenon=2C how in many of the places I've visited online = today where people were personally making an effort and in their own word m= emorializing Steve's Jobs' impact on their lives following the announcement= of his death . . . and no matter what=2C there was always one person who p= ops up there who wants to piss all over the proceedings. That's humanity fo= r you.
>=3B >=3B
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= --_98e38a3d-45fd-4dd1-acdf-d578daaccc26_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 7 10:43:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4EE44183486; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 10:43:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E8ED7D1.90007@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 03:43:29 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110920 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Davignon CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Off to do some looping ok OK References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112200 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 10:43:38 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Speaking of the freeze, I've discovered I have to cool it with my EH > Freeze a little bit. The most common thing I was doing to was freezing > my electronic tom sound, which creates a sine-wave sound which is > apparently painful to everyone except me. On typical drum kit sounds, > it requires a tricky bit of timing, but can be pretty rad. > > I'm at a show at the moment, so I can't listen to the mp3 just yet, > but I'm curious about how well it does with flute. I, too, started to overuse this pedal that , in effect, just freezes individual tones. Where I'm finding beautiful goodies, however, is freezing very quiet and incidental sounds. Rubbing your hands over the strings so that they make 'noise's and freezing them creates truly beautiful sounds..........very noise oriented and NOT loud. I don't know if you have a compressor or not, but one technique I'm using is to run everything into a Boss compressor that is turned up all the way on every knob (normally very obnoxious because it overcompresses everything and causes a lot of 'pumping' sounds. However, if you run nothing into the pedal (but still through your pitch shifters, distortions, delays, what have you) when you quit making noises, the inherent noise of all of those pedals is brought to a loud volume that has some cool effects if you use the Freeze function. Additionally, I've found that playing melodies and using temporary freezes that you hold only for a short while is very effective: particularly it is forcing me to get deeper into harmony and the extensions of both scales and chords...........mostly because most things that you freeze occasionally, sound bad. it takes skill to use this pedal and it's an unusual one. I'm still in love with mine but have quickly found that it's 'cliched' uses are very predictable and intrusive. rick. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 7 12:06:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF1BD18348C; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 12:06:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 12:06:53 UTC Message-id: <0LSP00JQ3072X3E0@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 07:06:35 -0400 From: "Richard Rives" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Reply-to: "Richard Rives" Subject: Re: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? In-reply-to: <9F9A407C-8816-46EC-8558-B46BED6980A9@charter.net> X-Mailer: Palm webOS v1.0.1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Alternative__boundary__1317985598316 Resent-Message-ID: <9Z_mw.A.WvG.dtujOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112201 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 12:06:53 +0000 (UTC) --Alternative__boundary__1317985598316 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lurker here. I wouldn't call it pissing on the proceedings, it is just a splash of cold= water in the face. Now about the mouse..... I thought Atari also saw the same thing at Parc an= d bought the patent for the mechanism from some inventor? Also..... One button mouse.... Only makes it half way.  (that was supp= osed to be funny) Mr. Jobs saw potential in everything and was a refiner of ideas. Refining= the human interface (note the people  he worked with in the beginning= ). The goal..... Lets not complicate things  ( at least not on the sur= face) There will be many generational opinions about him. Those who grew up prior= to the PC revolution, those during the PC revo and those of the i_generati= on. I'm sad he is gone. Too young. Rich -- Sent from my Palm Pre On Oct 6, 2011 9:51 PM, tEd =C2=AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net>= wrote:=20 I think it's an interesting and noteworthy phenomenon, how in many of the= places I've visited online today where people were personally making an ef= fort and in their own word memorializing Steve's Jobs' impact on their live= s following the announcement of his death . . . and no matter what, there= was always one person who pops up there who wants to piss all over the pro= ceedings. That's humanity for you. --Alternative__boundary__1317985598316 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lurker here.

I wouldn't call it pissing on the proceedings, it is ju= st a splash of cold water in the face.


Now about the mouse.....= I thought Atari also saw the same thing at Parc and bought the patent for= the mechanism from some inventor?

Also..... One button mouse.... On= ly makes it half way.  (that was supposed to be funny)


Mr.= Jobs saw potential in everything and was a refiner of ideas. Refining the= human interface (note the people  he worked with in the beginning).= The goal..... Lets not complicate things  ( at least not on the surfa= ce)

There will be many generational opinions about him. Those who gr= ew up prior to the PC revolution, those during the PC revo and those of the= i_generation.

I'm sad he is gone. Too young.

Rich



-- Sent from my Palm Pre


On Oct 6, 2011 9:51 PM, tEd =C2=AE KiLLiAn <tedki= llian@charter.net> wrote:

I think it's an interesting and notewo= rthy phenomenon, how in many of the places I've visited online today where= people were personally making an effort and in their own word memorializin= g Steve's Jobs' impact on their lives following the announcement of his dea= th . . . and no matter what, there was always one person who pops up there= who wants to piss all over the proceedings. That's humanity for you.
--Alternative__boundary__1317985598316-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 7 12:59:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC740183489; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 12:59:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E8EF7AA.5070204@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 08:59:22 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Top 20 Report for September, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112202 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 12:59:35 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/top20-09sep.html WDIY 88.1 FM "Galactic Travels" Top 20 for September, 2011. Shows #752 to #756; 1-September-2011 to 29-September-2011 Reported in non-ranked, alphanumeric order. Compiled by Bill Fox The Special Focus for September was Robert Carty. http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#sep ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL ======================================================================== Alpha Wave Movement - Soniq Variants - HRR Mario Schonwalder Frank Rothe - Filter-Kaffee 101 - Syngate Max Corbacho - Lost Links - relaxedMACHINERY Modulator ESP - Event Horizon - Earth Mantra Modulator ESP - The Unknowing - none Numina - Dawn of Obscurity - Numinamusic Recordings Paul Ellis - From Out of the Vast Comes Nearness - Lotuspike Paul Nagle - Beyond E-Ville - none Robert Carty - Oceanic Space - Deep Sky Music Robert Carty - Sonic Magic - Space for Music Robert Carty - Starlight Vol. 1 - Deep Sky Robert Carty - Starlight Vol. 2 - Deep Sky Robert Carty - Sun Tales - Deep Sky Music Schnitzler, Schroyder, and Gresbek - Minced Valves - Ricochet Dream Steve Brand - Avatara - relaxedMACHINERY Steve Roach - Quiet Music - Projekt Steve Rose - The Diminishing Day - none Surface 10 - In Vitro Tide - DiN Various Artists - Home Patterning - Periphery Vic Hennegan - Field of Worlds and Mirrors - Alien Tribes Music Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 7 13:12:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 13C9E18348C; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 13:12:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E8EFAC1.2010301@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 09:12:33 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #757 for October 6, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112203 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 13:12:46 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/111006.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #757 October 6, 2011. RECAP: On this show, I began a month-long focus on Steve Roach. The Featured CD at Midnight was the first disk from "Live at Grace Cathedral" on Timeroom Editions. http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#oct PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Keller and Long Distances Long Distances (Manikin) Schonwalder A Produce and Planet Atmo Intangible (Hypnos) Loren Nerell Zero Ohms Peace of the Pi Worlds, Afterworlds (relaxed MACHINERY) Robert Carty concert excerpt Live at the Old Church 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Steve Roach Embracing the Space Live at Grace Cathedral disk 1 (Timeroom Editions) Steve Roach Dreaming and Sleep Quiet Music (Projekt) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Steve Roach. The Featured CD at Midnight will be disk two from "Live at Grace Cathedral" on Timeroom Editions. Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/listen on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 7 15:50:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B1D7183486; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 15:50:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020209.4E8F1FC0.0042,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=f7+iIEBXlRg8DgWVVSd61rd0G1hrWSJW6o4ACgxAEYw= c=1 sm=1 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:17 a=szmbgav8MsSqkdyj92QA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Clayton Gary Lehmann" To: References: <4E8ED7D1.90007@cruzio.com> Subject: EH Freeze Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 08:50:23 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <4E8ED7D1.90007@cruzio.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 thread-index: AcyE3fpdTA0SxzmfRFeiUV1ypBgeqwAKdd8g Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112204 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 15:50:25 +0000 (UTC) I'm using mine on acoustic guitar-- I find the bad sounds to occur only occasionally, and for the most part, the pedal adds a reverb like density to the sound. As I play plectrum style, with a flat pick, it's most useful to be able to grab a slice of the sound to add single notes to-- Obviously, I don't try to freeze the short percussive notes--but it sounds like y'all are . . . From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 7 16:56:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1259318348A; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 16:56:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_EH0jumnMwaNP4by2SYRhTg)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-10-07_05:2011-10-07,2011-10-07,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1110070182 From: Daniel Thomas Subject: Re: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 09:56:30 -0700 In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> <4E8DD175.3000108@googlemail.com> <4E8DE546.2060008@googlemail.com> <9F9A407C-8816-46EC-8558-B46BED6980A9@charter.net> Message-id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <3AtglB.A.eCD.W9yjOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112205 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 16:56:54 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_EH0jumnMwaNP4by2SYRhTg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable He was a good man, Y'all. I knew him. What ever your position on = technology divides, Steve was a brilliant and ethical man whose singular = drive was to "make Apple gift to humanity." (His words to Apple = employees in our last quarterly meeting with him.) Any many respects, he has succeeded. My life is enriched for having met = and worked with him. =20 Rest in peace, sweet Prince. Daniel Shane Thomas On Oct 7, 2011, at 12:06 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > I heard a Steve Jobs' speech today on the BBC. He gave it to students = at Stanford University following the discovery of his first tumour. > It was profound. Given from the point of view of a man who had looked = death in the face.=20 > Here's a transcript: > http://news.stanford.edu/news/2005/june15/jobs-061505.html >=20 > Whatever you think of the man, read the section about death in this = speech here if you care to. > I was quite moved by it. > On anther note. > Here's another gravestone poem that I fist saw on the tomb of a = medieval knight in a small seaside chapel in Oxwich bay, Wales. > Remember me as you pass by, > As you are now, so once was I, > As I am now, so you will be, > Prepare for death and follow me. >=20 > Morbidly, Gareth. >=20 >=20 > > Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 19:57:32 -0600 > > Subject: Re: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? > > From: sinsofmachaut@gmail.com > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >=20 > > Ted, > >=20 > > You probably also saw the guy over on G+ who was doing exactly that, > > going on at length about capitalist running dogs, etc., and only > > reaffirming my lack of faith in most of humanity. > >=20 > > There's a wonderful old quote that I first encountered as having = been > > on a New England tombstone: > >=20 > > "As you are now, I once was. > > As I am now, you'll one day be." > >=20 > > Pretty much sums it up for all, assholes and angels alike. > >=20 > > Best, > >=20 > > Dennis > >=20 > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > > http://audiozoloft.com > > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:51 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn = wrote: > > > I think it's an interesting and noteworthy phenomenon, how in many = of the places I've visited online today where people were personally = making an effort and in their own word memorializing Steve's Jobs' = impact on their lives following the announcement of his death . . . and = no matter what, there was always one person who pops up there who wants = to piss all over the proceedings. That's humanity for you. > > > > >=20 --Boundary_(ID_EH0jumnMwaNP4by2SYRhTg) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
He was a good man, Y'all.  I knew him. =   What ever your position on technology divides, Steve was a = brilliant and ethical man whose singular drive was to "make Apple gift = to humanity."  (His words to Apple employees in our last quarterly = meeting with him.)

Any many respects, he has = succeeded.  My life is enriched for having met and worked with = him.
  
Rest in peace,  sweet = Prince.

Daniel Shane = Thomas

On Oct 7, 2011, at 12:06 AM, = Gareth Whittock wrote:

I heard a Steve Jobs' speech today on the BBC. He = gave it to students at Stanford University following the discovery of = his first tumour.
It was profound. Given from the point of view of a = man who had looked death in the face. 
Here's a = transcript:

Whatever you think of the man, read the section about death in = this speech here if you care to.
I was quite moved by = it.
On anther note.
Here's another gravestone poem = that I fist saw on the tomb of a medieval knight in a small seaside = chapel in Oxwich bay, Wales.
As you are now, so = once was I,
As I am now, so you will be,
 sinsofmachaut@gmail.com
>= ; To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
> 
> Ted,
> 
> You probably also = saw the guy over on G+ who was doing exactly that,
> going on at = length about capitalist running dogs, etc., and only
> reaffirming = my lack of faith in most of humanity.
> 
> There's a = wonderful old quote that I first encountered as having been
> on a = New England tombstone:
> 
> "As you are now, I = once was.
> As I am now, you'll one day be."
> 
> Pretty much sums = it up for all, assholes and angels alike.
> 
> Best,
> 
> = Dennis
> 
> http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin> http://audiozoloft.com
> http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 6, = 2011 at 7:51 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <
tedkillian@charter.net> = wrote:
> > I think it's an interesting and noteworthy = phenomenon, how in many of the places I've visited online today where = people were personally making an effort and in their own word = memorializing Steve's Jobs' impact on their lives following the = announcement of his death . . . and no matter what, there was always one = person who pops up there who wants to piss all over the proceedings. = That's humanity for you.
> >
> 
<= /span>

= --Boundary_(ID_EH0jumnMwaNP4by2SYRhTg)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 7 17:33:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C807183489; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 17:33:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-10-07_05:2011-10-07,2011-10-07,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1110070194 Subject: Re: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? From: Daniel Thomas X-Priority: 3 In-reply-to: <246CC1436FC84B26A4C830E358A2E243@ELUK1> Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 10:33:12 -0700 Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: <70411412-0DD6-4858-A8C1-776B5A3DCF65@mac.com> References: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> <4E8DD175.3000108@googlemail.com> <4E8DE546.2060008@googlemail.com> <9F9A407C-8816-46EC-8558-B46BED6980A9@charter.net> <246CC1436FC84B26A4C830E358A2E243@ELUK1> To: Stephen Goodman X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112206 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 17:33:33 +0000 (UTC) > To some he was a God, to others far less. And to some he was a mentor, friend, father, husband, human. Be gentle. Daniel On Oct 6, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > Well, we're all entitled to our opinions nonetheless. To some he was = a God, to others far less. >=20 > -----Original Message----- From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 2:51 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? >=20 > I think it's an interesting and noteworthy phenomenon, how in many of = the places I've visited online today where people were personally making = an effort and in their own word memorializing Steve's Jobs' impact on = their lives following the announcement of his death . . . and no matter = what, there was always one person who pops up there who wants to piss = all over the proceedings. That's humanity for you.=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 7 19:37:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0C9218348B; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 19:37:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=pCpHEqVUy+qgKhc6GpRYALjrZm++s93dzfPC3xJBQd0= c=1 sm=2 a=LkOJC974lfsA:10 a=agWTFdhlyG4A:10 a=kZCaSYHnAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=4qjLafa_CQuam163l64A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=9dKDUTTeGJsA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=BgeTwur8buqJBAOINMUA:7 X-Telus-Outbound-IP: 64.180.193.124 Subject: Re: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-406641795 From: richard sales X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <70411412-0DD6-4858-A8C1-776B5A3DCF65@mac.com> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 12:37:38 -0700 Message-Id: References: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> <4E8DD175.3000108@googlemail.com> <4E8DE546.2060008@googlemail.com> <9F9A407C-8816-46EC-8558-B46BED6980A9@charter.net> <246CC1436FC84B26A4C830E358A2E243@ELUK1> <70411412-0DD6-4858-A8C1-776B5A3DCF65@mac.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112207 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 19:37:41 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4-406641795 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 That's the nature of "God".=20 The ultimate Rorschach ink blot. The varying tones of our gripes and hallelujahs = (interpretations/opinions) about "God" (Steve Jobs, anything - esp the = famous) usually reveal more about ourselves, OUR natures, than the = matter being discussed.=20 R richard sales www.glasswing.com On Oct 7, 2011, at 10:33 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote: >> To some he was a God, to others far less. >=20 > And to some he was a mentor, friend, father, husband, human. Be = gentle. >=20 > Daniel >=20 > On Oct 6, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote: >=20 >> Well, we're all entitled to our opinions nonetheless. To some he was = a God, to others far less. >>=20 >> -----Original Message----- From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn >> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 2:51 AM >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? >>=20 >> I think it's an interesting and noteworthy phenomenon, how in many of = the places I've visited online today where people were personally making = an effort and in their own word memorializing Steve's Jobs' impact on = their lives following the announcement of his death . . . and no matter = what, there was always one person who pops up there who wants to piss = all over the proceedings. That's humanity for you.=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-4-406641795 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 The ultimate Rorschach ink = blot.
The varying tones of our gripes and hallelujahs = (interpretations/opinions) about "God" (Steve Jobs, anything - esp the = famous) usually reveal more about ourselves, OUR natures, than the = matter being = discussed. 

R

richard sales
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On Oct 7, 2011, at 10:33 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote:

To some he was a God, to = others far less.

And to some he was a mentor, = friend, father, husband, human.  Be gentle.

Daniel

On = Oct 6, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote:

Well, we're all entitled to our opinions nonetheless. =  To some he was a God, to others far = less.

-----Original = Message----- From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 2:51 = AM
To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
Subject: OT = Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never = been?

I think it's an = interesting and noteworthy phenomenon, how in many of the places I've = visited online today where people were personally making an effort and = in their own word memorializing Steve's Jobs' impact on their lives = following the announcement of his death . . . and no matter what, there = was always one person who pops up there who wants to piss all over the = proceedings. That's humanity for you. =


= --Apple-Mail-4-406641795-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 7 19:54:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 19AE718348C; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 19:54:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pKyZnSedrBRmEY+nT45tODldrIqNe3rn+JK07/FNOrU=; b=KGaO0+V9EPkludPBEy0/rhS8Q23GLHK1Jty4gZ/CiUOwgFVP1vHPj7w0mCUDeYW7HN Kr9ncnZQ0QNW3fQj5/cyysRLuOOkQIjBVt/mutOPUmEOZOXWYur+H2BLu2mAudnl/6Y4 8eTwZVgIFjHwUyGhW8Rrj+LeCJOp5vFhC/L80= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 14:54:57 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: scott hansen's some new "short" loops...(digitech dl8) From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00221597508ed62db404aebad029 Resent-Message-ID: <2PN4fB.A.I5F.Sk1jOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112208 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 19:54:58 +0000 (UTC) --00221597508ed62db404aebad029 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i just got done putting some new loops up that i've done over the last few weeks on my soundclick page: http://www.soundclick.com/hsacnostetn i think there are 22 short loops, all ranging around 2 min or so (give/take) i did this b/c when i 1st got my tascam dr03 i was recording some of my practice sessions, letting it run 10 min or so and they sounded cool to listen back to (for me), but when i went to upload them, none of them would, b/c the file was too big. then i thought. hmmm, 10 min probably too long (ha!). so these were recorded over 3 different days of doing stuff, using: my homemade guitar-zoom g2-wayhuge swollen pickle-digitech dl8-korg kaoss pad 2 (not sure if i ever turned it on?)-lexicon mx200-fender keyboard amp- recorded to my tascam dr03 (set on this little kids chair, 8" off ground, probably 10" from speaker-real scientific!) my guitar has a feedback mic switch that i use occasionally (i love feedback), can't remember if i turned on the ground kill for static. i sometimes had the mic on w/ a clean acoustic setting for "piezo acoustic-y sounds" funny thing this is the most i've recorded looping wise in a long time. honestly i think i set the DL8 to 2 sec delays and messed around w/ that, then at some pt started using 1 sec delays...just had fun setting up short wacky rhythms....at times i think i was thinking of how andre lafosse would set up his loops in "normalize"--was probably thinking along those lines.... the other funny thing, is i always set the limit of "2 min " to myself, i think i have old-age ADD....about 2 min is all i can focus...ha! enjoy.... s--- --00221597508ed62db404aebad029 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i just got done putting some new loops up that i've done over the last = few weeks on my soundclick page:


i think there are 22 short loops, all ranging around 2 = min or so (give/take)
i did this b/c when i 1st got my tascam dr0= 3 i was recording some of my practice sessions, letting it run 10 min or so=
and they sounded cool to listen back to (for me), but when i went to u= pload them, none of them would, b/c the file was too big.
then i = thought. hmmm, 10 min probably too long (ha!).
so these were reco= rded over 3 different days of doing stuff, using:
my homemade guitar-zoom g2-wayhuge swollen pickle-digitech dl8-korg ka= oss pad 2 (not sure if i ever turned it on?)-lexicon mx200-fender keyboard = amp-
recorded to my tascam dr03 (set on this little kids chair, 8= " off ground, probably 10" from speaker-real scientific!)

my guitar has a feedback mic switch that i use occasion= ally (i love feedback), can't remember if i turned on the ground kill f= or static. i sometimes had the mic on w/ a clean
acoustic setting= for "piezo acoustic-y sounds"

funny thing this is the most i've recorded looping = wise in a long time. honestly i think i set the DL8 to 2 sec delays and mes= sed around w/ that,
then at some pt started using 1 sec delays...= just had fun setting up short wacky rhythms....at times i think i was think= ing of how andre lafosse would=A0
set up his loops in "normalize"--was probably thinking along= those lines....

the other funny thing, is i alway= s set the limit of "2 min " to myself, i think i have old-age ADD= ....about 2 min is all i can focus...ha!
enjoy....
s---
--00221597508ed62db404aebad029-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 7 20:53:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC7EE18348A; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 20:53:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E8F66D3.10502@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 13:53:39 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110920 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Nice Review of the Loopers Delight Compilation CD vol IV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112209 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 20:53:46 +0000 (UTC) I have a very talented 55 year old student who is not familiar with the live looping world. I gave her a copy of the Loopers Delight Compilation CD vol IV and was very gratified that she wrote this about it: "Also, thanks for the Looping CD...it is very cool! All of the pieces evoke memories or dreams ...seagulls and tides or different cultures that I have wandered into. It will get a lot of listening time...it is deep." Congratulations everybody. This kind of review is what we dream of, especially when people are taking what we do devoid of it's technological context. Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 7 21:11:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41B0B183489; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 21:11:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_HcYiw+JMPHqpDLvuGYApeQ)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-10-07_06:2011-10-07,2011-10-07,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1110070260 Subject: Re: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? From: Daniel Thomas X-Priority: 3 In-reply-to: Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:10:44 -0700 Message-id: References: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> <4E8DD175.3000108@googlemail.com> <4E8DE546.2060008@googlemail.com> <9F9A407C-8816-46EC-8558-B46BED6980A9@charter.net> <246CC1436FC84B26A4C830E358A2E243@ELUK1> <70411412-0DD6-4858-A8C1-776B5A3DCF65@mac.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112210 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 21:11:07 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_HcYiw+JMPHqpDLvuGYApeQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable "The varying tones of our gripes and hallelujahs = (interpretations/opinions) about "God" (Steve Jobs, anything - esp the = famous) usually reveal more about ourselves, OUR natures, than the = matter being discussed. " beautiful insight, Richard. Thank you. d On Oct 7, 2011, at 12:37 PM, richard sales wrote: > That's the nature of "God".=20 > The ultimate Rorschach ink blot. > The varying tones of our gripes and hallelujahs = (interpretations/opinions) about "God" (Steve Jobs, anything - esp the = famous) usually reveal more about ourselves, OUR natures, than the = matter being discussed.=20 >=20 > R >=20 > richard sales > www.glasswing.com >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Oct 7, 2011, at 10:33 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote: >=20 >>> To some he was a God, to others far less. >>=20 >> And to some he was a mentor, friend, father, husband, human. Be = gentle. >>=20 >> Daniel >>=20 >> On Oct 6, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote: >>=20 >>> Well, we're all entitled to our opinions nonetheless. To some he = was a God, to others far less. >>>=20 >>> -----Original Message----- From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn >>> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 2:51 AM >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> Subject: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? >>>=20 >>> I think it's an interesting and noteworthy phenomenon, how in many = of the places I've visited online today where people were personally = making an effort and in their own word memorializing Steve's Jobs' = impact on their lives following the announcement of his death . . . and = no matter what, there was always one person who pops up there who wants = to piss all over the proceedings. That's humanity for you.=20 >>=20 >=20 --Boundary_(ID_HcYiw+JMPHqpDLvuGYApeQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable "The = varying tones of our gripes and hallelujahs (interpretations/opinions) = about "God" (Steve Jobs, anything - esp the famous) usually reveal more = about ourselves, OUR natures, than the matter being discussed. = "

beautiful insight, Richard. Thank = you.

d

On = Oct 7, 2011, at 12:37 PM, richard sales wrote:

That's the nature of = "God". 
The ultimate Rorschach ink blot.
The varying = tones of our gripes and hallelujahs (interpretations/opinions) about = "God" (Steve Jobs, anything - esp the famous) usually reveal more about = ourselves, OUR natures, than the matter being = discussed. 

R

richard sales
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On Oct 7, 2011, at 10:33 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote:

To some he was a God, to = others far less.

And to some he was a mentor, = friend, father, husband, human.  Be gentle.

Daniel

On = Oct 6, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote:

Well, we're all entitled to our opinions nonetheless. =  To some he was a God, to others far = less.

-----Original = Message----- From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 2:51 = AM
To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
Subject: OT = Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never = been?

I think it's an = interesting and noteworthy phenomenon, how in many of the places I've = visited online today where people were personally making an effort and = in their own word memorializing Steve's Jobs' impact on their lives = following the announcement of his death . . . and no matter what, there = was always one person who pops up there who wants to piss all over the = proceedings. That's humanity for you. =



= --Boundary_(ID_HcYiw+JMPHqpDLvuGYApeQ)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 7 21:12:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0BDA18348A; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 21:12:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=USsCTBUUVix01MdA8X2bYEGEsqnHXYENePW2h8rFGGI=; b=euZFCBmdzKZNMgffeOlZLsWH2nxcoVXu7fSfjj5bV7opaglCgzgoBBVXIg04yV3U8A UlGQkBKzGv6rdpz0N2fu26y46z8gu1GHFtkHu3Sk7qKLCFDML0eDpkFtkoTKxTEXaBZ2 aIMZ0oyvSuFzoC50bscnDzPxE3/yRGtFCoPvI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> <4E8DD175.3000108@googlemail.com> <4E8DE546.2060008@googlemail.com> <9F9A407C-8816-46EC-8558-B46BED6980A9@charter.net> <246CC1436FC84B26A4C830E358A2E243@ELUK1> <70411412-0DD6-4858-A8C1-776B5A3DCF65@mac.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 17:11:40 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c3cd69ab22404aebbe54a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112211 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 21:12:22 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c3cd69ab22404aebbe54a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks for that one, Richard. So true, at least over here in my head... On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 3:37 PM, richard sales wrote= : > That's the nature of "God". > The ultimate Rorschach ink blot. > The varying tones of our gripes and hallelujahs (interpretations/opinions= ) > about "God" (Steve Jobs, anything - esp the famous) usually reveal more > about ourselves, OUR natures, than the matter being discussed. > > R > > richard sales > www.glasswing.com > > > > On Oct 7, 2011, at 10:33 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote: > > To some he was a God, to others far less. > > > And to some he was a mentor, friend, father, husband, human. Be gentle. > > Daniel > > On Oct 6, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > > Well, we're all entitled to our opinions nonetheless. To some he was a > God, to others far less. > > > -----Original Message----- From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn > > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 2:51 AM > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? > > > I think it's an interesting and noteworthy phenomenon, how in many of the > places I've visited online today where people were personally making an > effort and in their own word memorializing Steve's Jobs' impact on their > lives following the announcement of his death . . . and no matter what, > there was always one person who pops up there who wants to piss all over = the > proceedings. That's humanity for you. > > > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 The most recent newsletter is here. =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page . =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --0015174c3cd69ab22404aebbe54a Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks for that one, Richard. =A0So true, at least over here in my head...= =A0

On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 3:37 PM, richa= rd sales <ric= hard@glasswing.com> wrote:
That= 9;s the nature of "God".=A0
The ultimate Rorschach ink blot.<= /div>
The varying tones of our gripes and hallelujahs (interpretations/opini= ons) about "God" (Steve Jobs, anything - esp the famous) usually = reveal more about ourselves, OUR natures, than the matter being discussed.= =A0

R

richard sales



On Oct 7, 2011, at 10:33 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote:

To some he was a God= , to others far less.

And to some he was a mentor, frie= nd, father, husband, human. =A0Be gentle.

Daniel

On Oct 6, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote:
Well, we're all entitled to our opinions non= etheless. =A0To some he was a God, to others far less.

-----Original Message----- From:= tEd =AE KiLLiAn
Sent: Friday, Oc= tober 07, 2011 2:51 AM
To: Loopers-= Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... Wh= at if he had never been?

I think it's an interesting and note= worthy phenomenon, how in many of the places I've visited online today = where people were personally making an effort and in their own word memoria= lizing Steve's Jobs' impact on their lives following the announceme= nt of his death . . . and no matter what, there was always one person who p= ops up there who wants to piss all over the proceedings. That's humanit= y for you.





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=95 The most recent newsletter is here.

=95=A0Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now avail= able wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page.



--0015174c3cd69ab22404aebbe54a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 7 21:14:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 714D6183486; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 21:14:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=hDHQHa732T6azZuP4gOG+T6AnmtuSw4V5ixdvNkzzN8=; b=PkgbdBuCPuFcVVPFnsTcOceJy796jkfBChAvUVkq/aJQiMDe4bae8IRlG23EdkW2D3 yjlt9DXlz102OM5NxGQKGgyQnX6xDqin9BgCbEn8y7EHc/9yyzvu+wbbtcA+DFjCsDDL 27cOUNTAYph7eEvf1hAtCIaqtx8SW6mCHD344= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> References: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> From: todd reynolds Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 17:13:39 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c3cd6a35c9404aebbecd4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112212 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 21:14:20 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c3cd6a35c9404aebbecd4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable without a doubt the most inspiring RIP post I've read... thanks, Ted. On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 10:52 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wr= ote: > RIP Steve Jobs. Without you our lives would not at all be the same. You > were one of those rare gifts that providence grants each era, totally > transforming everything we thought we knew what the future was going to b= e > like. We baby boomers never got our jetpacks, monorails, bubble houses, o= r > robot housemaids. What you gave us was better. You will be missed more th= an > you will know. > > On Oct 5, 2011, at 7:29 PM, doody wrote: > > > Would we yet wait for the phrase, "user friendly"? > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 The most recent newsletter is here. =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page . =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --0015174c3cd6a35c9404aebbecd4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable without a doubt the most inspiring RIP post I've read... thanks, Ted.
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 10:52 AM, tEd =AE K= iLLiAn <tedk= illian@charter.net> wrote:
RIP Steve Jobs. Without you our lives would= not at all be the same. You were one of those rare gifts that providence g= rants each era, totally transforming everything we thought we knew what the= future was going to be like. We baby boomers never got our jetpacks, monor= ails, bubble houses, or robot housemaids. What you gave us was better. You = will be missed more than you will know.

On Oct 5, 2011, at 7:29 PM, doody wrote:

> Would we yet wait for the phrase, "user friendly"?




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=95 The most recent newsletter is here.

=95=A0Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now avail= able wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page.



--0015174c3cd6a35c9404aebbecd4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 7 21:16:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A722018348A; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 21:16:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=Z98EzepzLCoc1ejq9HK+wSBnMw9n9QaqXinxKwV5ILQ=; b=AkacorbEGX+WwMNvJWtSj7W70ayLSssbn8ac912YUlOizA1XVe4aiup6BxP6oMFmsO bRGEc9iRd6bw4cKM5oUI6eauxEfyNti8ftPbKXZW1KQ7p0D89YdC1Zwfn7xiK9t3ZOt0 0UQxcYKSEkmoNFXOMQN3Ilb5Lq1ILKZ7OCDMA= References: <4E8F66D3.10502@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4E8F66D3.10502@cruzio.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8L1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <3C52AB8A-5D82-4AF2-AEA3-FADCC29F32BD@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8L1) From: Wytold Subject: Re: Nice Review of the Loopers Delight Compilation CD vol IV Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 17:16:42 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: <_KboO.A.M5H.Ex2jOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112213 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 21:16:52 +0000 (UTC) Cool - I'd like to check out this compilation CD! Where can I listen to it?= ? Wytold On Oct 7, 2011, at 4:53 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > I have a very talented 55 year old student who is not familiar with the li= ve > looping world. >=20 > I gave her a copy of the Loopers Delight Compilation CD vol IV > and was very gratified that she wrote this about it: >=20 > "Also, thanks for the Looping CD...it is very cool! All of the pieces evok= e memories or dreams ...seagulls and tides or different cultures that I have= wandered into. It will get a lot of listening time...it is deep." >=20 >=20 > Congratulations everybody. This kind of review is what we dream of, espec= ially when people are taking what we do > devoid of it's technological context. >=20 > Rick Walker >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 7 21:19:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C17C18348E; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 21:19:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=Fe5gwiOOAUX3se0HTvwW/VqA0AEnuk+6AhdMWpLjV4Y=; b=BCfON8EcbJ1ccJ46v6IkOg1seRReoCwifcQEb3qrzPokMUn6zFdwntCl5Y+YKEQc71 qJY6EI0vmZRoZUsamgxrT4g1UmtKshpvUXR+F2QQtYCy8R7YRqS/LGS+79UFY3vyM5jR 7SWSG43qhbBfnAecjEQd2bhAQVVtba5Nnl528= References: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> <4E8DD175.3000108@googlemail.com> <4E8DE546.2060008@googlemail.com> <9F9A407C-8816-46EC-8558-B46BED6980A9@charter.net> <246CC1436FC84B26A4C830E358A2E243@ELUK1> <70411412-0DD6-4858-A8C1-776B5A3DCF65@mac.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-416285010 Message-Id: <5FF27A57-4348-4326-9F3D-7077DE9C4834@gmail.com> Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8C148) From: Jean-Paul De Roover Subject: Re: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 18:17:58 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112214 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 21:19:27 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-416285010 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I'm curious to know how the world would have reacted if it had been the deat= h of Bill Gates? What differences we'd see in online memorials etc. Apple us= ers have always felt more like they're in a community rather than Windows, w= hich always felt like a default grouping you were associated with. Definitel= y an interesting study; the comparison of world reactions to either deaths (= well, when Bill goes) and how they match company images. Jean-Paul De Roover (807) 251-3376 www.jeanpaulderoover.com Check out the brand new music video for "You"!=20 http://youtube.com/watch?v=3DW7QnxUgGQPc *Sent from my iPhone.* On 2011-10-07, at 5:11 PM, todd reynolds wrote: > thanks for that one, Richard. So true, at least over here in my head...=20= >=20 > On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 3:37 PM, richard sales wrot= e: > That's the nature of "God".=20 > The ultimate Rorschach ink blot. > The varying tones of our gripes and hallelujahs (interpretations/opinions)= about "God" (Steve Jobs, anything - esp the famous) usually reveal more abo= ut ourselves, OUR natures, than the matter being discussed.=20 >=20 > R >=20 > richard sales > www.glasswing.com >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Oct 7, 2011, at 10:33 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote: >=20 >>> To some he was a God, to others far less. >>=20 >> And to some he was a mentor, friend, father, husband, human. Be gentle. >>=20 >> Daniel >>=20 >> On Oct 6, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote: >>=20 >>> Well, we're all entitled to our opinions nonetheless. To some he was a G= od, to others far less. >>>=20 >>> -----Original Message----- From: tEd =C2=AE KiLLiAn >>> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 2:51 AM >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> Subject: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? >>>=20 >>> I think it's an interesting and noteworthy phenomenon, how in many of th= e places I've visited online today where people were personally making an ef= fort and in their own word memorializing Steve's Jobs' impact on their lives= following the announcement of his death . . . and no matter what, there was= always one person who pops up there who wants to piss all over the proceedi= ngs. That's humanity for you.=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > =E2=80=A2 The most recent newsletter is here. >=20 > =E2=80=A2 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available whe= rever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page. >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > http://toddreynolds.com > http://twitter.com/digifiddler > http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic > http://blog.toddreynolds.com > http://facebook.com/toddreynolds > http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds >=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-3-416285010 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
I'm curious to know how the world would= have reacted if it had been the death of Bill Gates? What differences we'd s= ee in online memorials etc. Apple users have always felt more like they're i= n a community rather than Windows, which always felt like a default grouping= you were associated with. Definitely an interesting study; the comparison o= f world reactions to either deaths (well, when Bill goes) and how they match= company images.

Jean-Paul De Roover
(807) 251-3376

Check out the brand new music video for "You"! 
= http://youtube.com/watc= h?v=3DW7QnxUgGQPc

*Sent from my iPhone.*
<= div>
On 2011-10-07, at 5:11 PM, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:

thanks for that one, Richard.  So true, at l= east over here in my head... 

On Fri,= Oct 7, 2011 at 3:37 PM, richard sales <richard@g= lasswing.com> wrote:
That's th= e nature of "God". 
The ultimate Rorschach ink blot.
The varying tones of our gripes and hallelujahs (interpretations/opinio= ns) about "God" (Steve Jobs, anything - esp the famous) usually reveal more a= bout ourselves, OUR natures, than the matter being discussed. 

R

richard sales


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On Oct 7, 2011, at 10:33 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote:

To some he was a God, t= o others far less.

And to some he was a mentor, friend, f= ather, husband, human.  Be gentle.

Daniel

On Oct 6, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote:

=
Well, we're all entitled to our opinions nonethele= ss.  To some he was a God, to others far less.

-----Original Message----- From: t= Ed =C2=AE KiLLiAn
Sent: Friday, Oc= tober 07, 2011 2:51 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= .com
Subject: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... Wha= t if he had never been?

I think it's an interesting and noteworthy p= henomenon, how in many of the places I've visited online today where people w= ere personally making an effort and in their own word memorializing Steve's J= obs' impact on their lives following the announcement of his death . . . and= no matter what, there was always one person who pops up there who wants to p= iss all over the proceedings. That's humanity for you.


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=E2=80=A2 Th= e most recent newsletter is here.

=E2=80=A2 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now a= vailable wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page.


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= --Apple-Mail-3-416285010-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 7 21:31:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCBCA183486; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 21:31:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=GUKHofmXzzKohtRBCeFrFr2zqbfVvBB0hPVMh6wOKik=; b=M2xB7koFhOBDHNsMVsT4XuZgX1lY5LaXJJ7rs9Iz8Z4gZ4yEl+Mjd1esg//m7pzVPR ksUNTnf1WxGg1Egip225v9u/elFaiNDikp3rMbdHD3asaxDPy7GkaCUpLjijkRV+BpD0 xaveL8ozi0weyuPzHNF2DxE37p9pnXD3lRSxc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5FF27A57-4348-4326-9F3D-7077DE9C4834@gmail.com> References: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> <4E8DD175.3000108@googlemail.com> <4E8DE546.2060008@googlemail.com> <9F9A407C-8816-46EC-8558-B46BED6980A9@charter.net> <246CC1436FC84B26A4C830E358A2E243@ELUK1> <70411412-0DD6-4858-A8C1-776B5A3DCF65@mac.com> <5FF27A57-4348-4326-9F3D-7077DE9C4834@gmail.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 17:31:16 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151743f83ca4c9a804aebc2b56 Resent-Message-ID: <_5KWYC.A.Vb.N_2jOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112215 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 21:31:57 +0000 (UTC) --00151743f83ca4c9a804aebc2b56 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I hope, when Bill Gates dies, and he most certainly will, that he'll be memorialized for all the money he's used to make the life a little better for those who struggle. It is indeed in ways that Steve Jobs did not point his efforts to. Bill Gates has done some pretty fantastic things and changed the world in similar ways even. I do hope he gets his due, and before he's unable to enjoy it. good thing to think about, Jean-Paul, thanks. On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover wrote: > I'm curious to know how the world would have reacted if it had been the > death of Bill Gates? What differences we'd see in online memorials etc. > Apple users have always felt more like they're in a community rather than > Windows, which always felt like a default grouping you were associated wi= th. > Definitely an interesting study; the comparison of world reactions to eit= her > deaths (well, when Bill goes) and how they match company images. > > Jean-Paul De Roover > (807) 251-3376 > www.jeanpaulderoover.com > > Check out the brand new music video for "You"! > http://youtube.com/watch?v=3DW7QnxUgGQPc > > *Sent from my iPhone.* > > On 2011-10-07, at 5:11 PM, todd reynolds wrote: > > thanks for that one, Richard. So true, at least over here in my head... > > On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 3:37 PM, richard sales < > richard@glasswing.com> wrote: > >> That's the nature of "God". >> The ultimate Rorschach ink blot. >> The varying tones of our gripes and hallelujahs (interpretations/opinion= s) >> about "God" (Steve Jobs, anything - esp the famous) usually reveal more >> about ourselves, OUR natures, than the matter being discussed. >> >> R >> >> richard sales >> www.glasswing.com >> >> >> >> On Oct 7, 2011, at 10:33 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote: >> >> To some he was a God, to others far less. >> >> >> And to some he was a mentor, friend, father, husband, human. Be gentle. >> >> Daniel >> >> On Oct 6, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote: >> >> Well, we're all entitled to our opinions nonetheless. To some he was a >> God, to others far less. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn >> >> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 2:51 AM >> >> To: >> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> Subject: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? >> >> >> I think it's an interesting and noteworthy phenomenon, how in many of th= e >> places I've visited online today where people were personally making an >> effort and in their own word memorializing Steve's Jobs' impact on their >> lives following the announcement of his death . . . and no matter what, >> there was always one person who pops up there who wants to piss all over= the >> proceedings. That's humanity for you. >> >> >> >> > > > -- > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > =95 The most recent newsletter is here. > > =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever > music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page > . > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > http://toddreynolds.com > http://twitter.com/digifiddler > > http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic > http://blog.toddreynolds.com > http://facebook.com/toddreynolds > > http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds > > > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 The most recent newsletter is here. =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page . =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --00151743f83ca4c9a804aebc2b56 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I hope, when Bill Gates dies, and he most certainly will, that he'll be= memorialized for all the money he's used to make the life a little bet= ter for those who struggle. =A0It is indeed in ways that Steve Jobs did not= point his efforts to. =A0Bill Gates has done some pretty fantastic things = and changed the world in similar ways even. =A0I do hope he gets his due, a= nd before he's unable to enjoy it. =A0good thing to think about, Jean-P= aul, thanks.=A0



On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 6:= 17 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover <j.de.roover@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm curious to know how the world would h= ave reacted if it had been the death of Bill Gates? What differences we'= ;d see in online memorials etc. Apple users have always felt more like they= 're in a community rather than Windows, which always felt like a defaul= t grouping you were associated with. Definitely an interesting study; the c= omparison of world reactions to either deaths (well, when Bill goes) and ho= w they match company images.

Jean-Paul De Roover

Check out the brand new music video for "You"= !=A0
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3DW7QnxUgGQPc

*Sent= from my iPhone.*

On 2011-10-07, at 5:11 PM,= todd reynolds <= toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:

thanks for that one, Richard. =A0So true, at least over here in my hea= d...=A0

On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 3:37 PM, r= ichard sales <richard@glasswing.com> wrote:
That'= ;s the nature of "God".=A0
The ultimate Rorschach ink blot.
The varying tones of our gripes and hallelujahs (interpretations/opini= ons) about "God" (Steve Jobs, anything - esp the famous) usually = reveal more about ourselves, OUR natures, than the matter being discussed.= =A0

R

richard sales


On Oct 7, 2011, at 10:33 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote:

To some he was a God= , to others far less.

And to some he was a mentor, frie= nd, father, husband, human. =A0Be gentle.

Daniel

On Oct 6, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote:
Well, we're all entitled to our opinions non= etheless. =A0To some he was a God, to others far less.

-----Original Message----- From:= tEd =AE KiLLiAn
Sent: Friday, Oc= tober 07, 2011 2:51 AM
To: Looper= s-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... Wh= at if he had never been?

I think it's an interesting and note= worthy phenomenon, how in many of the places I've visited online today = where people were personally making an effort and in their own word memoria= lizing Steve's Jobs' impact on their lives following the announceme= nt of his death . . . and no matter what, there was always one person who p= ops up there who wants to piss all over the proceedings. That's humanit= y for you.





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=95=A0Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now avail= able wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page.






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--00151743f83ca4c9a804aebc2b56-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 7 22:12:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B81318348B; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 22:12:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=HItg5kUajuzuBEDfSNPzy2hXPQlsFbAXdKDPpi3yLz4=; b=skA8m0RrZEhKALBPr1rr+nh1UYNz7bltu0sCrcpMR779W1l23pNaBOVE47kuImzcNg dQVcpXuWDcDaXX5Cs4psxTDwJ/riMVAr9rVMibQBuWC7BdWB9hhQ1x3gIXdgJ1PrNjjJ 2TmgOrzXRi9wO0FFzNNX3XTntxJEh+8dF5MH0= References: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> <4E8DD175.3000108@googlemail.com> <4E8DE546.2060008@googlemail.com> <9F9A407C-8816-46EC-8558-B46BED6980A9@charter.net> <246CC1436FC84B26A4C830E358A2E243@ELUK1> <70411412-0DD6-4858-A8C1-776B5A3DCF65@mac.com> <5FF27A57-4348-4326-9F3D-7077DE9C4834@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-419484661 Message-Id: Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8C148) From: Jean-Paul De Roover Subject: Re: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 19:11:30 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112216 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 22:12:38 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-419484661 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 What good is a Masters in Sociology degree, otherwise? ;) Jean-Paul De Roover (807) 251-3376 www.jeanpaulderoover.com Check out the brand new music video for "You"!=20 http://youtube.com/watch?v=3DW7QnxUgGQPc *Sent from my iPhone.* On 2011-10-07, at 5:31 PM, todd reynolds wrote: > I hope, when Bill Gates dies, and he most certainly will, that he'll be me= morialized for all the money he's used to make the life a little better for t= hose who struggle. It is indeed in ways that Steve Jobs did not point his e= fforts to. Bill Gates has done some pretty fantastic things and changed the= world in similar ways even. I do hope he gets his due, and before he's una= ble to enjoy it. good thing to think about, Jean-Paul, thanks.=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover wrote: > I'm curious to know how the world would have reacted if it had been the de= ath of Bill Gates? What differences we'd see in online memorials etc. Apple u= sers have always felt more like they're in a community rather than Windows, w= hich always felt like a default grouping you were associated with. Definitel= y an interesting study; the comparison of world reactions to either deaths (= well, when Bill goes) and how they match company images. >=20 > Jean-Paul De Roover > (807) 251-3376 > www.jeanpaulderoover.com >=20 > Check out the brand new music video for "You"!=20 > http://youtube.com/watch?v=3DW7QnxUgGQPc >=20 > *Sent from my iPhone.* >=20 > On 2011-10-07, at 5:11 PM, todd reynolds wrote: >=20 >> thanks for that one, Richard. So true, at least over here in my head...=20= >>=20 >> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 3:37 PM, richard sales wro= te: >> That's the nature of "God".=20 >> The ultimate Rorschach ink blot. >> The varying tones of our gripes and hallelujahs (interpretations/opinions= ) about "God" (Steve Jobs, anything - esp the famous) usually reveal more ab= out ourselves, OUR natures, than the matter being discussed.=20 >>=20 >> R >>=20 >> richard sales >> www.glasswing.com >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Oct 7, 2011, at 10:33 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote: >>=20 >>>> To some he was a God, to others far less. >>>=20 >>> And to some he was a mentor, friend, father, husband, human. Be gentle.= >>>=20 >>> Daniel >>>=20 >>> On Oct 6, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Well, we're all entitled to our opinions nonetheless. To some he was a= God, to others far less. >>>>=20 >>>> -----Original Message----- From: tEd =C2=AE KiLLiAn >>>> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 2:51 AM >>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>>> Subject: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? >>>>=20 >>>> I think it's an interesting and noteworthy phenomenon, how in many of t= he places I've visited online today where people were personally making an e= ffort and in their own word memorializing Steve's Jobs' impact on their live= s following the announcement of his death . . . and no matter what, there wa= s always one person who pops up there who wants to piss all over the proceed= ings. That's humanity for you.=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> =E2=80=A2 The most recent newsletter is here. >>=20 >> =E2=80=A2 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wh= erever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page. >>=20 >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> http://toddreynolds.com >> http://twitter.com/digifiddler >> http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic >> http://blog.toddreynolds.com >> http://facebook.com/toddreynolds >> http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > =E2=80=A2 The most recent newsletter is here. >=20 > =E2=80=A2 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available whe= rever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page. >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > http://toddreynolds.com > http://twitter.com/digifiddler > http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic > http://blog.toddreynolds.com > http://facebook.com/toddreynolds > http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds >=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-1-419484661 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
What good is a Masters in Sociology deg= ree, otherwise? ;)

Jean-Paul De Roover
(807) 251-3376
<= a href=3D"http://www.jeanpaulderoover.com">www.jeanpaulderoover.com

Check out the brand new music video for "You"! http://youtube.com/w= atch?v=3DW7QnxUgGQPc

*Sent from my iPhone.*

On 2011-10-07, at 5:31 PM, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:

=
I hope, when Bill Gates dies, and he most cer= tainly will, that he'll be memorialized for all the money he's used to make t= he life a little better for those who struggle.  It is indeed in ways t= hat Steve Jobs did not point his efforts to.  Bill Gates has done some p= retty fantastic things and changed the world in similar ways even.  I d= o hope he gets his due, and before he's unable to enjoy it.  good thing= to think about, Jean-Paul, thanks. 



On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 6:1= 7 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover <j.de.roover@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
I'm curious to know how the world would have r= eacted if it had been the death of Bill Gates? What differences we'd see in o= nline memorials etc. Apple users have always felt more like they're in a com= munity rather than Windows, which always felt like a default grouping you we= re associated with. Definitely an interesting study; the comparison of world= reactions to either deaths (well, when Bill goes) and how they match compan= y images.

Jean-Paul De Roover

Check out the brand new music video for "You"! http://youtube.com/watch?v=3D= W7QnxUgGQPc

*Sent from my iPhone.*

On 2011-10-07, at 5:11 PM, t= odd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:
<= br>
thanks for that one, Richard.  So true, at least over here in my h= ead... 

On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 3:37 P= M, richard sales <richard@glasswing.com<= /a>> wrote:
That's the= nature of "God". 
The ultimate Rorschach ink blot.
The varying tones of our gripes and hallelujahs (interpretations/opinio= ns) about "God" (Steve Jobs, anything - esp the famous) usually reveal more a= bout ourselves, OUR natures, than the matter being discussed. 

R

richard sales


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On Oct 7, 2011, at 10:33 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote:

To some he was a God, t= o others far less.

And to some he was a mentor, friend, f= ather, husband, human.  Be gentle.

Daniel

On Oct 6, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote:

=
Well, we're all entitled to our opinions nonethele= ss.  To some he was a God, to others far less.

-----Original Message----- From: t= Ed =C2=AE KiLLiAn
Sent: Friday, Oc= tober 07, 2011 2:51 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= .com
Subject: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... Wha= t if he had never been?

I think it's an interesting and noteworthy p= henomenon, how in many of the places I've visited online today where people w= ere personally making an effort and in their own word memorializing Steve's J= obs' impact on their lives following the announcement of his death . . . and= no matter what, there was always one person who pops up there who wants to p= iss all over the proceedings. That's humanity for you.


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= --Apple-Mail-1-419484661-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 7 22:17:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 917E418348E; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 22:17:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-10-07_06:2011-10-07,2011-10-07,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1110070281 Subject: Re: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? From: kenn lowy In-reply-to: <20111007221238.B3D9B183490@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 18:17:52 -0400 Message-id: <41608AA9-2C7F-4336-9B44-2BE34D721AC6@me.com> References: <20111007221238.B3D9B183490@arsenic.violacea.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112217 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 22:17:56 +0000 (UTC) I think if it been Bill Gates the story would have been very different. Microsoft really aren't known as innovators. I think he would be remembered for similar reasons as for how he started out and grew the company, but I think there would be a lot of emphasis on his philanthropy. It would still be a huge story, but (IMHO) they are important for different reasons. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 7 23:13:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7707B18348C; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 23:13:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E8F8789.8080509@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 16:13:13 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110920 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112218 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 23:13:20 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, todd reynolds wrote: > I hope, when Bill Gates dies, and he most certainly will, that he'll > be memorialized for all the money he's used to make the life a little > better for those who struggle. It is indeed in ways that Steve Jobs > did not point his efforts to. Bill Gates has done some pretty > fantastic things and changed the world in similar ways even. I do > hope he gets his due, and before he's unable to enjoy it. good thing > to think about, Jean-Paul, thanks. Bill Gates has also had an enormous impact on the world (and I, too, applaud his amazingly generous humanitarian aid and global consciousness raising efforts with his charitable foundations after his professional work was finished. But a distinction that I think most people are referencing (at least unconsciously) in their tributes is that Steve Jobs always has had a very, very strong aesthetic mixed in with his business efforts. The look of Apple products; their ergonomic appeal; their conscious attempt at ease of usage (even when, to me it's irritating because they become increasingly difficult to customize) have all been a huge aspect of his contribution. I don't think this single aspect can be overestimated. Their has always been a sense of style, grace and beauty associated with his career. In a world that seems increasingly complex and perplexing, his aesthetic vision has been like a cool refreshing shower. I'll forgive him that his computers run really hot. I'll even most likely by a PC laptop the next time I"m forced to, but I really do get and appreciate where his heart has been the entire time. When you talk about billionaires, that says a hell of a lot. Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 7 23:25:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EFDD518348B; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 23:25:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 867666.6787.bm@omp1050.mail.bf1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1318029936; bh=ZznhsUALwXWpgswsQQaRbGgKR3NTUvbVLH0RQ8J8deA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=snEN+1FnVy9J3MrhS80Y3MiIexvTcvo+qYXjbhuwNxKqliqpfxLm7YJ23MQebPwrq74/7x0Y0bETWc7enigmm5LVnRR+0wHSzC/YRxBsv73Wnf6fLqsWfKVFii5vmeI9XNmMz86j3vRLhV1Rj53fs5TtbZ1HxKV2OI1PEJv5xpM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Y/yvESNkWJbqYo97bfZ2zeMdkyWJ4Djra238R67exIffA4j7lFCIqLHLzmAXwndB4WsrX8oL9zkLz1Hq9nCpwy7BZCt+ESHypEGTcrHWAMAwC3q5emcPBzivOtd0z+sttFzehTJ9scAHKKd2er9/Uj/YPoNg/MAek9y2xQcgauU=; X-YMail-OSG: ln58pFcVM1kb4GJBAwzJvJlkspf08UnO1sCUq1UqjVDjA6q 2JfjSMw76qu105qhvBoz.m_Djnzbq7ncVw1whVwe2325UFCcYgQa6a_FUkxN vopuH4.zKEm9KChR5sfGMssYWUE0ayn0i0Uo4Kw.H46Xwjw18444u7tgo_Gq 82chgvjAd1FEZhNsz6exgJdYCxeMObbhVmwfCu5bwaGAsqTJ9ddDwxFzj1Q0 KuuiDujs2j7pT.d.obgphL2zXepZp6MVlvsoRAUMsGq0SaBi.z1QmPM2GsEw Qy7JsN2WedbNlYAWQsrNcjm5udPF.6KgmCdtmrRgrWqaA7sDwC34tbv6e_VY JNDYnRgG88rPsAU0IkbVIBI8jC9P.iw4k7UOoXem7F2KLvSPaRRwx911zAnV dvReE1LtaoEmmaFNH5SafQf1POhz.508EsrU0p0WiN9bFErQnfTCpOstlwIS MIKdsDBhilAj0.TX.DpuQUXQrNcE4NRMKZeaPqexPpxeFc028qffjyvWnjO4 sRr51yjIfd2VY92kXxiFy7IIGwqAxk18RRzvytVKzKYKOjXDh0Mo7hqXq6V7 3GvLOCu1WRQafD_WZ0ruzRM_wEV2vVpCQXlasgaxGaK7HhOlZQw1aeyY2qoj yd0QbnN21rnV_oJ.VKJdu_MgioYvENUPnHBBXJ1gFTVQACoczQljmZWFikkJ I5.32O6BCgKZbH_dApuXKmicI7urkalY5a0oDgJSzGgU1l9QCqy.SKUE6N1x FeiQLyABwcnMz5e91ZYVUNAdi9PG3NWyM89WFbM9lvn_XaIOwlhZ58wOXAIz nFAuJdxkR7MJdebZN9mXkMaz_9pS2ntBBotOs47tqyc5hvJ1o7oeowvTVWkz 4j.982GdO1CYGFLm4rUq.jDFvX3JebTqvRXbLCQ5bmTVa3sxuSqF.LtZC9z. 3CYbhKiUpCFbNmvl7Jun2hs2R_Y4_gblwYxWSwowe8oYBEwxXK9hd9s5s5XN XiuSsctmNE4gqsQp8XJwiINfZS9MObUshl0kSqnEudQ2s65K8LPu_sAEB73A FGDYry._ZFyXtSR.OVVFqstOpiaCl5n9ZqZBr8y2CqqHRYsjMX1gkuzGa X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.114.317681 References: <4E8F8789.8080509@cruzio.com> Message-ID: <1318029935.25299.YahooMailNeo@web36705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 16:25:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Reply-To: Paul Richards Subject: Re: Re: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: <4E8F8789.8080509@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-2114655128-966015785-1318029935=:25299" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112219 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 23:25:37 +0000 (UTC) ---2114655128-966015785-1318029935=:25299 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Plus Steve Jobs (and Wozniak) both worked for Atari!=0A=A0=0Ahttp://www.lin= kedin.com/news?viewArticle=3D&articleID=3D822659214&gid=3D1900493&type=3Dme= mber&item=3D74200995&articleURL=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Etechflash%2Ecom%2Fseat= tle%2F2009%2F10%2Fatari_founder_nolan_bushnell_on_steve_jobs_amazoncom_and_= more%2Ehtml&urlhash=3DmNdp&goback=3D%2Egde_1900493_member_74200995=0A=0A=0A= ________________________________=0AFrom: Rick Walker = =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ACc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-de= light.com=0ASent: Friday, October 7, 2011 7:13 PM=0ASubject: Re: Re: OT Re:= RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been?=0A=0AOn 7/22/64 11:59 AM, tod= d reynolds wrote:=0A> I hope, when Bill Gates dies, and he most certainly w= ill, that he'll be memorialized for all the money he's used to make the lif= e a little better for those who struggle.=A0 It is indeed in ways that Stev= e Jobs did not point his efforts to.=A0 Bill Gates has done some pretty fan= tastic things and changed the world in similar ways even.=A0 I do hope he g= ets his due, and before he's unable to enjoy it.=A0 good thing to think abo= ut, Jean-Paul, thanks. =0ABill Gates has also had an enormous impact on the= world (and I, too,=A0 applaud his amazingly generous=0Ahumanitarian aid an= d global consciousness raising efforts with his charitable foundations afte= r=0Ahis professional work was finished.=0A=0ABut a distinction that I think= most people are referencing (at least unconsciously) in their=0Atributes i= s that Steve Jobs always has had a very, very strong aesthetic mixed in wit= h his=0Abusiness efforts.=0A=0AThe look of Apple products;=A0 their ergonom= ic appeal;=A0 their conscious attempt at ease of usage=0A(even when, to me = it's irritating because they become increasingly difficult to customize) ha= ve all=0Abeen a huge aspect of his contribution.=0A=0AI don't think this si= ngle aspect can be overestimated.=0A=0ATheir has always been a sense of sty= le, grace and beauty associated with his career.=0A=0AIn a world that seems= increasingly complex and perplexing,=A0 his aesthetic vision has been like= =0Aa cool refreshing shower.=0A=0AI'll forgive him that his computers run r= eally hot.=0AI'll even most likely by a PC laptop the next time I"m forced = to, but=0AI really do get and appreciate where his heart has been the entir= e time.=0AWhen you talk about billionaires,=A0 that says a hell of a lot.= =0A=0ARick ---2114655128-966015785-1318029935=:25299 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Plus Steve= Jobs (and Wozniak) both worked for Atari!
&n= bsp;

From: Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-d= elight.com
Cc: Loopers-= Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent:<= /span> Friday, October 7, 2011 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: Re: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he ha= d never been?

=0AOn 7/22/64 11:59 AM, todd reynolds wrote:> I hope, when Bill Gates dies, and he most certainly will, that he'll = be memorialized for all the money he's used to make the life a little bette= r for those who struggle.  It is indeed in ways that Steve Jobs did no= t point his efforts to.  Bill Gates has done some pretty fantastic thi= ngs and changed the world in similar ways even.  I do hope he gets his= due, and before he's unable to enjoy it.  good thing to think about, = Jean-Paul, thanks.
Bill Gates has also had an enormous impact on the wo= rld (and I, too,  applaud his amazingly generous
humanitarian aid a= nd global consciousness raising efforts with his charitable foundations aft= er
his professional work was finished.

But a distinction that I t= hink most people are referencing (at least unconsciously) in their
tribu= tes is that Steve Jobs always has had a very, very strong aesthetic mixed i= n with his
business efforts.

The look of Apple products;  their ergonomic appeal;&= nbsp; their conscious attempt at ease of usage
(even when, to me it's ir= ritating because they become increasingly difficult to customize) have all<= br>been a huge aspect of his contribution.

I don't think this single= aspect can be overestimated.

Their has always been a sense of style= , grace and beauty associated with his career.

In a world that seems= increasingly complex and perplexing,  his aesthetic vision has been l= ike
a cool refreshing shower.

I'll forgive him that his computers= run really hot.
I'll even most likely by a PC laptop the next time I"m = forced to, but
I really do get and appreciate where his heart has been t= he entire time.
When you talk about billionaires,  that says a hell= of a lot.

Rick



---2114655128-966015785-1318029935=:25299-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 8 04:29:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD5D618348E; Sat, 8 Oct 2011 04:29:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=y5kd6tewWBviDon03eGwiphSb5MRZmtwk79yvEqsejU=; b=QMsaFMYXJ5ZdHhlIGKNICDi4fDLLmeupJ0i9sB7wenPv31ooGVCiJ0uFhE3+5Vkfut F6YYv9r6KxZyjs/gqITkHlw6yPxrTNLf9aVdI6X3L0HZyHOj5FjWsMg2UxdJA5o3Jy5o fLcJLIDMOyWFLgz6BC7zXcYgLIiUHZGYdIaq0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> <4E8DD175.3000108@googlemail.com> <4E8DE546.2060008@googlemail.com> <9F9A407C-8816-46EC-8558-B46BED6980A9@charter.net> Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 00:29:18 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f78bf6518af404aec20090 Resent-Message-ID: <9aYxRD.A.AMG.hG9jOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112220 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 04:29:21 +0000 (UTC) --001485f78bf6518af404aec20090 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gareth thanks so much for posting this, just read through it, wow so much said... going to FB this as it's so touching and reflective and bittersweet on seeing that such a winner was challenged again by losing this time to th= e finality or hopefully another beginning in some other form, way, life, spirit, of death... On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 3:06 AM, Gareth Whittock w= rote: > I heard a Steve Jobs' speech today on the BBC. He gave it to students at > Stanford University following the discovery of his first tumour. > It was profound. Given from the point of view of a man who had looked dea= th > in the face. > Here's a transcript: > http://news.stanford.edu/news/2005/june15/jobs-061505.html > > Whatever you think of the man, read the section about death in this speec= h > here if you care to. > I was quite moved by it. > On anther note. > Here's another gravestone poem that I fist saw on the tomb of a medieval > knight in a small seaside chapel in Oxwich bay, Wales. > *Remember me as you pass by,**As you are now, so once was I,**As I am now= , > so you will be,**Prepare for death and follow me.* > > Morbidly, Gareth. > > > > Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 19:57:32 -0600 > > Subject: Re: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? > > From: sinsofmachaut@gmail.com > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > > > Ted, > > > > You probably also saw the guy over on G+ who was doing exactly that, > > going on at length about capitalist running dogs, etc., and only > > reaffirming my lack of faith in most of humanity. > > > > There's a wonderful old quote that I first encountered as having been > > on a New England tombstone: > > > > "As you are now, I once was. > > As I am now, you'll one day be." > > > > Pretty much sums it up for all, assholes and angels alike. > > > > Best, > > > > Dennis > > > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > > http://audiozoloft.com > > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:51 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn > wrote: > > > I think it's an interesting and noteworthy phenomenon, how in many of > the places I've visited online today where people were personally making = an > effort and in their own word memorializing Steve's Jobs' impact on their > lives following the announcement of his death . . . and no matter what, > there was always one person who pops up there who wants to piss all over = the > proceedings. That's humanity for you. > > > > > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --001485f78bf6518af404aec20090 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gareth thanks so much for posting this, just read through it, wow so much s= aid... going to FB this as it's so touching and reflective and bittersw= eet on seeing that such a winner was challenged again by losing this time t= o the finality or hopefully another beginning in some other form, way, life= , spirit, of death...

On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 3:06 AM, Gareth Whitt= ock <buddh= amachine@live.co.uk> wrote:
I heard a Steve Jobs' speech today on the BBC. He gave it to students a= t Stanford University following the discovery of his first tumour.
It w= as profound. Given from the point of view of a man who had looked death in = the face.=A0
Here's a transcript:

Whatever= you think of the man, read the section about death in this speech here if = you care to.
I was quite moved by it.
On anther note.
Here'= s another gravestone poem that I fist saw on the tomb of a medieval knight = in a small seaside chapel in Oxwich bay, Wales.
Remember me as you pass by,=
As= you are now, so once was I,
As I am now, so you will be,
Prepare for death and follow me.

Morbidly, Gareth.


> Date: Thu= , 6 Oct 2011 19:57:32 -0600
> Subject: Re: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... W= hat if he had never been?
> From: sinsofmachaut@gmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

>
> Ted,
>
> You probably also saw the guy = over on G+ who was doing exactly that,
> going on at length about capitalist running dogs, etc., and only
&g= t; reaffirming my lack of faith in most of humanity.
>
> There= 's a wonderful old quote that I first encountered as having been
> on a New England tombstone:
>
> "As you are now, I o= nce was.
> As I am now, you'll one day be."
>
>= Pretty much sums it up for all, assholes and angels alike.
>
> Best,
>
> Dennis
>
> http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin
&= gt; http://audiozoloft= .com
> http://u= srslashsbin.angrek.com/
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct = 6, 2011 at 7:51 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
> > I think it's an interesting and noteworthy phenomenon, how in= many of the places I've visited online today where people were persona= lly making an effort and in their own word memorializing Steve's Jobs&#= 39; impact on their lives following the announcement of his death . . . and= no matter what, there was always one person who pops up there who wants to= piss all over the proceedings. That's humanity for you.
> >
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from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF Int= ernational.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--001485f78bf6518af404aec20090-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 8 11:36:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E5F518348B; Sat, 8 Oct 2011 11:36:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TCLiJb0SVL37y5lmevz3RL+zcYqQqRcrdPeX16lM3bY=; b=iuQy9u08sVcM21fSPSs/2Bv1evrpxPBuv49M9ZWK4WXm8tkCLJ8mOhZR1gcIgYmjrA qCQbUqh63TNZH7jG3ZZ927Rdy7WdifpXEk2I8TE6Z0pzH67ihIZwvc4WEcTuCr/aSxVR OmBHPAAe5Qzxe3CRE2eLlzFT6ZBhvT+kwNIRs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 13:36:44 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Echoplex plop noise From: atq sound To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0022159761dae8943204aec7f839 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112221 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 11:36:46 +0000 (UTC) --0022159761dae8943204aec7f839 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello, I am trying to fix my Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro. Everytime I loop something with the echoplex there is a "plop" noise at the start/end of the loop. Even when there is no input and it's just recording silence. This happens as well when I overdub. I already checked this: - it happens both with LOOP IV and LOOP 3.3 - changing RAM didn't make a difference either I did some research on the web and found a comment of Matthias Grob to a user who had the same problem: *"If the blopp happens in other situations, too, it might be the DC aligning, a trimmer, easy to set"* Does anyone know what he's talking about? Any advice is welcome. Thanks and kind regards! --0022159761dae8943204aec7f839 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello,

I am trying to fix my Oberheim= Echoplex Digital Pro.

Everytime I loop something with the echoplex = there is a "plop" noise at the start/end of the loop.
Even whe= n there is no input and it's just recording silence. This happens as we= ll when I overdub.

I already checked this:
- it happens both with LOOP IV and LOOP 3.3<= br>- changing RAM didn't make a difference either

I did some res= earch on the web and found a comment of Matthias Grob to a user who had the= same problem:
"If the blopp happens in other situations, too, it might be the DC = aligning, a trimmer, easy to set"

Does anyone know what he&= #39;s talking about?
Any advice is welcome.

Thanks and kind regar= ds!
--0022159761dae8943204aec7f839-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 8 12:25:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2786A18348B; Sat, 8 Oct 2011 12:25:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Kelly Reynolds Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: for sale oberheim echoplex Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 07:25:26 -0500 Message-Id: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:224958032:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33824e9041504f8d X-AOL-IP: 184.100.93.55 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112222 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 12:25:55 +0000 (UTC) I am selling my Oberheim echoplex with Loop 4 software and echoplex foot = pedal for $450 includes shipping in US Boomerang Phrase Sampler version 1 $200 includes shipping in US. Have = manuals for both units.=20 Let me know if your interested off list. Thanks Kelly From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 9 14:42:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00A38183486; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 14:42:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=aMOPNNv6yHn0YFKA4vrQgvnTpca6IbJsxycKbWNTXCU=; b=pYUDsgVkoaws2OJCtst4c13aG5TXUslG22BQKA66BsSvRo97u04nO3NK+t9DuIG9yN 3m5MK1jujc9VHSJh4JJdoVia65ckXyr7gDD0W+o1v7IOSbY3eRlvAHPgEdoXXIjhlKi+ boh6x6spuzk+Xk69XWfrNHtGglDaveLJfv6A8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 16:42:16 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Y2K/UCSC clinic From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112223 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 14:42:17 +0000 (UTC) For those who come to Santa Cruz for the Loopfest: I heard that my clinic at the Electronic Music Program of UCSC will be open to the public as well. It's Friday 14th 2pm to 3:15. Will play for demo and try to squeeze in a full listing of factors to keep in mind when performing live electronics as well as "instant composition". All theory broken down to hands-on example/demo. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 9 16:53:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58D6418347A; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 16:53:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 09 Oct 2011 16:53:23 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <4E8F8789.8080509@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 09:46:42 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <07545631-3994-46CF-AF87-E388CB569F3F@grubmah.com> References: <4E8F8789.8080509@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112224 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 16:53:24 +0000 (UTC) On Oct 7, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, todd reynolds wrote: >> I hope, when Bill Gates dies, and he most certainly will, that he'll = be memorialized for all the money he's used to make the life a little = better for those who struggle. It is indeed in ways that Steve Jobs did = not point his efforts to. Bill Gates has done some pretty fantastic = things and changed the world in similar ways even. I do hope he gets = his due, and before he's unable to enjoy it. good thing to think about, = Jean-Paul, thanks.=20 > Bill Gates has also had an enormous impact on the world (and I, too, = applaud his amazingly generous > humanitarian aid and global consciousness raising efforts with his = charitable foundations after > his professional work was finished. >=20 > But a distinction that I think most people are referencing (at least = unconsciously) in their > tributes is that Steve Jobs always has had a very, very strong = aesthetic mixed in with his > business efforts. >=20 > The look of Apple products; their ergonomic appeal; their conscious = attempt at ease of usage > (even when, to me it's irritating because they become increasingly = difficult to customize) have all > been a huge aspect of his contribution. >=20 > I don't think this single aspect can be overestimated. >=20 > Their has always been a sense of style, grace and beauty associated = with his career. >=20 > In a world that seems increasingly complex and perplexing, his = aesthetic vision has been like > a cool refreshing shower. >=20 > I'll forgive him that his computers run really hot. > I'll even most likely by a PC laptop the next time I"m forced to, but > I really do get and appreciate where his heart has been the entire = time. > When you talk about billionaires, that says a hell of a lot. When I was at Microsoft, people would ask why it was that when Apple = took a harsh and controlling stance the industry and public accepted it = in a way that they never would from Microsoft. They wondered whether = this had to do with Microsoft not being in the valley. But, of course, = that would only explain the industry reaction and not the public = reaction. My answer was that it had to do with the stated goals of the = companies. Microsoft's goals were about a PC on every desktop running = Microsoft software. It was a goal about reach and about reach for = Microsoft. Apple's goals were about building the best computer.(*) = Microsoft's actions would therefore be interpreted as being about = extending Microsoft's reach. Apple's actions would be interpreted as = being about their pursuit of the best computer. The former is about the = company. The latter is about the product. The former directly benefits = no one other than Microsoft. The latter most directly benefits the = customer. And, so similar actions, viewed through those very different = lenses get viewed in very different ways. Mark (*) One may disagree about whether their choices led to better = computers. If one values customization, they clearly did not. But that = disagreement doesn't undermine the notion that they were making = decisions on the basis of what they felt would make for better = computers. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 9 17:09:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4AE1D183464; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 17:09:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=nok0sAqvuTQ3zxEzlqxdCabOYRxbekey86sUeDl/15k=; b=OJj5bhArsNk1KDmnJfAH1EfGHD9T+R6gu6HeTX9JLzXaxbqkkTDM/o9gGD8hxvvMfD 8Y+korJPQY3mdK87FNG1A74BCazcvh7ItcYYO15fBnCoW3cCLTvn8ZMeHy9GAlHOhN2a I01SsRhx0Yfvl0+mIQiyyYt+QbRxC6NrX8yPE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <07545631-3994-46CF-AF87-E388CB569F3F@grubmah.com> References: <4E8F8789.8080509@cruzio.com> <07545631-3994-46CF-AF87-E388CB569F3F@grubmah.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 13:09:12 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151743f83c2880c704aee0be3c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112225 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 17:09:54 +0000 (UTC) --00151743f83c2880c704aee0be3c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable great insight, Mark, thanks for that! > > When I was at Microsoft, people would ask why it was that when Apple took= a > harsh and controlling stance the industry and public accepted it in a way > that they never would from Microsoft. They wondered whether this had to d= o > with Microsoft not being in the valley. But, of course, that would only > explain the industry reaction and not the public reaction. My answer was > that it had to do with the stated goals of the companies. Microsoft's goa= ls > were about a PC on every desktop running Microsoft software. It was a goa= l > about reach and about reach for Microsoft. Apple's goals were about build= ing > the best computer.(*) Microsoft's actions would therefore be interpreted = as > being about extending Microsoft's reach. Apple's actions would be > interpreted as being about their pursuit of the best computer. The former= is > about the company. The latter is about the product. The former directly > benefits no one other than Microsoft. The latter most directly benefits t= he > customer. And, so similar actions, viewed through those very different > lenses get viewed in very different ways. > > Mark > > (*) One may disagree about whether their choices led to better computers. > If one values customization, they clearly did not. But that disagreement > doesn't undermine the notion that they were making decisions on the basis= of > what they felt would make for better computers. > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 The most recent newsletter is here. =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page . =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --00151743f83c2880c704aee0be3c Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

great i= nsight, Mark, thanks for that!=A0


<= /div>
=A0
When I was at Microsoft, people would ask why it was that when Apple took a= harsh and controlling stance the industry and public accepted it in a way = that they never would from Microsoft. They wondered whether this had to do = with Microsoft not being in the valley. But, of course, that would only exp= lain the industry reaction and not the public reaction. My answer was that = it had to do with the stated goals of the companies. Microsoft's goals = were about a PC on every desktop running Microsoft software. It was a goal = about reach and about reach for Microsoft. Apple's goals were about bui= lding the best computer.(*) Microsoft's actions would therefore be inte= rpreted as being about extending Microsoft's reach. Apple's actions= would be interpreted as being about their pursuit of the best computer. Th= e former is about the company. The latter is about the product. The former = directly benefits no one other than Microsoft. The latter most directly ben= efits the customer. And, so similar actions, viewed through those very diff= erent lenses get viewed in very different ways.

Mark

(*) One may disagree about whether their choices led to better computers. I= f one values customization, they clearly did not. But that disagreement doe= sn't undermine the notion that they were making decisions on the basis = of what they felt would make for better computers.




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=95 The most recent newsletter is here.

=95=A0Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now avail= able wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page.



--00151743f83c2880c704aee0be3c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 9 17:54:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1CE3183479; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 17:54:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=lKSOL1kGddHiNrwll/VcH89Se00SBr9ToSPvPRjnXc0=; b=da7Z2kdhHBPMDtOQW4NBq0bX/cZjFKC0Slwgn2yCNInoWAQ9lNDAojuv2VDhBXUmwb AUMINl7PcLwQ3zxE1y2AhTeKHMR5AjSrMDKLxjVwuEvKGoCA8Kkt0XofoSeSlK6h/SGj UvItmrb+LPc5yvxyjMRYo18LoX2ezavFOwfWs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4E8F8789.8080509@cruzio.com> <07545631-3994-46CF-AF87-E388CB569F3F@grubmah.com> Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 13:54:33 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec547ccd1f0d1aa04aee15dfb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112226 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 17:54:35 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec547ccd1f0d1aa04aee15dfb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark agreed, wonderful observation... On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 1:09 PM, todd reynolds wrote: > > > great insight, Mark, thanks for that! >> > > > > >> When I was at Microsoft, people would ask why it was that when Apple too= k >> a harsh and controlling stance the industry and public accepted it in a = way >> that they never would from Microsoft. They wondered whether this had to = do >> with Microsoft not being in the valley. But, of course, that would only >> explain the industry reaction and not the public reaction. My answer was >> that it had to do with the stated goals of the companies. Microsoft's go= als >> were about a PC on every desktop running Microsoft software. It was a go= al >> about reach and about reach for Microsoft. Apple's goals were about buil= ding >> the best computer.(*) Microsoft's actions would therefore be interpreted= as >> being about extending Microsoft's reach. Apple's actions would be >> interpreted as being about their pursuit of the best computer. The forme= r is >> about the company. The latter is about the product. The former directly >> benefits no one other than Microsoft. The latter most directly benefits = the >> customer. And, so similar actions, viewed through those very different >> lenses get viewed in very different ways. >> >> Mark >> >> (*) One may disagree about whether their choices led to better computers= . >> If one values customization, they clearly did not. But that disagreement >> doesn't undermine the notion that they were making decisions on the basi= s of >> what they felt would make for better computers. >> >> > > > -- > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > =95 The most recent newsletter is here. > > =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever > music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page > . > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > http://toddreynolds.com > http://twitter.com/digifiddler > http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic > http://blog.toddreynolds.com > http://facebook.com/toddreynolds > http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds > > > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --bcaec547ccd1f0d1aa04aee15dfb Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark agreed, wonderful observation...

On = Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 1:09 PM, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:


great in= sight, Mark, thanks for that!=A0

=A0
When I was at Microsoft, people would ask why it was that when Apple took a= harsh and controlling stance the industry and public accepted it in a way = that they never would from Microsoft. They wondered whether this had to do = with Microsoft not being in the valley. But, of course, that would only exp= lain the industry reaction and not the public reaction. My answer was that = it had to do with the stated goals of the companies. Microsoft's goals = were about a PC on every desktop running Microsoft software. It was a goal = about reach and about reach for Microsoft. Apple's goals were about bui= lding the best computer.(*) Microsoft's actions would therefore be inte= rpreted as being about extending Microsoft's reach. Apple's actions= would be interpreted as being about their pursuit of the best computer. Th= e former is about the company. The latter is about the product. The former = directly benefits no one other than Microsoft. The latter most directly ben= efits the customer. And, so similar actions, viewed through those very diff= erent lenses get viewed in very different ways.

Mark

(*) One may disagree about whether their choices led to better computers. I= f one values customization, they clearly did not. But that disagreement doe= sn't undermine the notion that they were making decisions on the basis = of what they felt would make for better computers.




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=95 The most recent newsletter is h= ere.

=95=A0Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now avail= able wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page.






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= From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Go= odin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will bene= fit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

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--bcaec547ccd1f0d1aa04aee15dfb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 9 20:11:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B60CE183477; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 20:11:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1545 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 09 Oct 2011 20:11:41 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=3kn4snR/2TdwuYXvh+wm0CPnSGzQFWY7ukd303aPFv0= c=1 sm=1 a=Zq2FpVYgtBoA:10 a=LkOJC974lfsA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=6wrDOa2Tlcs1iS1ByyX37A==:17 a=vE9Yp3RhAAAA:8 a=ryVJR2_73NE8G1OvwxIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=zXEfOMw5J-gA:10 a=6wrDOa2Tlcs1iS1ByyX37A==:117 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 11:23:14 -0700 Subject: Re: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? From: Richard Atkinson To: LOOPERS DELIGHT LIST Message-ID: Thread-Topic: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? Thread-Index: AcyGsIH7wIcbVvKjEeCKcgAWy4YwYQ== In-Reply-To: <07545631-3994-46CF-AF87-E388CB569F3F@grubmah.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112227 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 20:11:41 +0000 (UTC) I've been an active Mac user since 1995, due to my profession of being in the graphics industry. Macs were the de facto standard after the industry started moving away from analog procedures (stat cameras, film/development chemistry, and 'burning' of printing plates) and from proprietary computer systems. Now, in my industry, software is king, and it's being developed for both platforms. The software looks and feels identical, minus a few keyboard shortcuts. So, the platform wars are moot from that perspective. So, with that experience driving my perspective, I see Apple as the Porsche, and PC's as the 'kit cars'. One cannot deny that Porsche has some of the best industrial design around. Everything fits, everything looks fantastic, and the whole 'package' looks and feels like it was created with an integrated purpose and aesthetic, from concept to completion. In contrast, you can't deny the 'wow' factor of a 500+ horsepower 'kit car', with a supercharged V8, purple metal-flake paintjob (with flames, of course), and custom machined aluminum steering wheel! They both have their place, I guess, and will win the hearts of some while alienating others. Rich On 10/9/11 9:46 AM, "Mark Hamburg" wrote: > On Oct 7, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > >> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, todd reynolds wrote: >>> I hope, when Bill Gates dies, and he most certainly will, that he'll be >>> memorialized for all the money he's used to make the life a little better >>> for those who struggle. It is indeed in ways that Steve Jobs did not point >>> his efforts to. Bill Gates has done some pretty fantastic things and >>> changed the world in similar ways even. I do hope he gets his due, and >>> before he's unable to enjoy it. good thing to think about, Jean-Paul, >>> thanks. >> Bill Gates has also had an enormous impact on the world (and I, too, applaud >> his amazingly generous >> humanitarian aid and global consciousness raising efforts with his charitable >> foundations after >> his professional work was finished. >> >> But a distinction that I think most people are referencing (at least >> unconsciously) in their >> tributes is that Steve Jobs always has had a very, very strong aesthetic >> mixed in with his >> business efforts. >> >> The look of Apple products; their ergonomic appeal; their conscious attempt >> at ease of usage >> (even when, to me it's irritating because they become increasingly difficult >> to customize) have all >> been a huge aspect of his contribution. >> >> I don't think this single aspect can be overestimated. >> >> Their has always been a sense of style, grace and beauty associated with his >> career. >> >> In a world that seems increasingly complex and perplexing, his aesthetic >> vision has been like >> a cool refreshing shower. >> >> I'll forgive him that his computers run really hot. >> I'll even most likely by a PC laptop the next time I"m forced to, but >> I really do get and appreciate where his heart has been the entire time. >> When you talk about billionaires, that says a hell of a lot. > > When I was at Microsoft, people would ask why it was that when Apple took a > harsh and controlling stance the industry and public accepted it in a way that > they never would from Microsoft. They wondered whether this had to do with > Microsoft not being in the valley. But, of course, that would only explain the > industry reaction and not the public reaction. My answer was that it had to do > with the stated goals of the companies. Microsoft's goals were about a PC on > every desktop running Microsoft software. It was a goal about reach and about > reach for Microsoft. Apple's goals were about building the best computer.(*) > Microsoft's actions would therefore be interpreted as being about extending > Microsoft's reach. Apple's actions would be interpreted as being about their > pursuit of the best computer. The former is about the company. The latter is > about the product. The former directly benefits no one other than Microsoft. > The latter most directly benefits the customer. And, so similar actions, > viewed through those very different lenses get viewed in very different ways. > > Mark > > (*) One may disagree about whether their choices led to better computers. If > one values customization, they clearly did not. But that disagreement doesn't > undermine the notion that they were making decisions on the basis of what they > felt would make for better computers. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 9 20:31:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2693183477; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 20:31:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=3kn4snR/2TdwuYXvh+wm0CPnSGzQFWY7ukd303aPFv0= c=1 sm=1 a=LkOJC974lfsA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:17 a=H8nBcDuu9KoohGRZfE4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= In-Reply-To: <07545631-3994-46CF-AF87-E388CB569F3F@grubmah.com> Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 13:31:14 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <44F3B593-4620-4E78-9C7B-84A2375F5F18@charter.net> References: <4E8F8789.8080509@cruzio.com> <07545631-3994-46CF-AF87-E388CB569F3F@grubmah.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112228 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 20:31:16 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for the insight Mark. On Oct 9, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > When I was at Microsoft, people would ask why it was that when Apple = took a harsh and controlling stance the industry and public accepted it = in a way that they never would from Microsoft. They wondered whether = this had to do with Microsoft not being in the valley. But, of course, = that would only explain the industry reaction and not the public = reaction. My answer was that it had to do with the stated goals of the = companies. Microsoft's goals were about a PC on every desktop running = Microsoft software. It was a goal about reach and about reach for = Microsoft. Apple's goals were about building the best computer.(*) = Microsoft's actions would therefore be interpreted as being about = extending Microsoft's reach. Apple's actions would be interpreted as = being about their pursuit of the best computer. The former is about the = company. The latter is about the product. The former directly benefits = no one other than Microsoft. The latter most directly benefits the = customer. And, so similar actions, viewed through those very different = lenses get viewed in very different ways. >=20 > Mark >=20 > (*) One may disagree about whether their choices led to better = computers. If one values customization, they clearly did not. But that = disagreement doesn't undermine the notion that they were making = decisions on the basis of what they felt would make for better = computers. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 9 20:34:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 465C2183479; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 20:34:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=3kn4snR/2TdwuYXvh+wm0CPnSGzQFWY7ukd303aPFv0= c=1 sm=1 a=LkOJC974lfsA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:17 a=paj5xQu-rro7P2BAD1wA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 13:34:41 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <63CZK.A.rsE.jVgkOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112229 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 20:34:43 +0000 (UTC) That's a good analogy (I think) Richard. I too have been using Macs in the same industry (currently as an art = director in an ad firm). It's interesting how many of us (graphic arts types) are also musicians. Best, Ted On Oct 9, 2011, at 11:23 AM, Richard Atkinson wrote: > I've been an active Mac user since 1995, due to my profession of being = in > the graphics industry. Macs were the de facto standard after the = industry > started moving away from analog procedures (stat cameras, = film/development > chemistry, and 'burning' of printing plates) and from proprietary = computer > systems. >=20 > Now, in my industry, software is king, and it's being developed for = both > platforms. The software looks and feels identical, minus a few = keyboard > shortcuts. So, the platform wars are moot from that perspective. >=20 > So, with that experience driving my perspective, I see Apple as the = Porsche, > and PC's as the 'kit cars'. >=20 > One cannot deny that Porsche has some of the best industrial design = around. > Everything fits, everything looks fantastic, and the whole 'package' = looks > and feels like it was created with an integrated purpose and = aesthetic, from > concept to completion. >=20 > In contrast, you can't deny the 'wow' factor of a 500+ horsepower 'kit = car', > with a supercharged V8, purple metal-flake paintjob (with flames, of > course), and custom machined aluminum steering wheel! >=20 > They both have their place, I guess, and will win the hearts of some = while > alienating others. >=20 > Rich From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 9 21:28:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7513183464; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 21:28:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=/SKEfRdihAwcSwQiMcdzXmDjw55dVzMKHbncP6dYF3o=; b=HNudWhp97BLXRXXndJfFDZqRaHYjEcBcEkiVc8K+yPzJzbkPokSNupBmpDx+K/cHHt 0+jYRv650NG65/erXfKLBRYKYZlx/GvSq7PdceSqQTRn1V8POtJL8+gkJjdakl/9Vrh6 NT+RSF+LfTRcjqEY9NNBbgZBwmXv2s1mGL0DY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 23:27:54 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 68QJnNYuY5Nck6hBM0AdumzJc2o Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305b122e163f2104aee45a4f Resent-Message-ID: <_PD1fD.A.NhF.uHhkOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112230 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 21:28:14 +0000 (UTC) --20cf305b122e163f2104aee45a4f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well Ive been a mac user AND a PC user for 20 years.. never really seen the difference except that when I couldnt get my company to buy my computers for me I went for PC, when they did, I bought macs... But its was the software that counted, and as long as it was on both I didnt care what I used... Now Ive come to the conclusion that I hate both mac AND PC, and am wonderin= g what else is there? Im going for pens pencils and paper... m On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 10:34 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wr= ote: > That's a good analogy (I think) Richard. > > I too have been using Macs in the same industry (currently as an art > director in an ad firm). > > It's interesting how many of us (graphic arts types) are also musicians. > > Best, > > Ted > > On Oct 9, 2011, at 11:23 AM, Richard Atkinson wrote: > > > I've been an active Mac user since 1995, due to my profession of being = in > > the graphics industry. Macs were the de facto standard after the > industry > > started moving away from analog procedures (stat cameras, > film/development > > chemistry, and 'burning' of printing plates) and from proprietary > computer > > systems. > > > > Now, in my industry, software is king, and it's being developed for bot= h > > platforms. The software looks and feels identical, minus a few keyboar= d > > shortcuts. So, the platform wars are moot from that perspective. > > > > So, with that experience driving my perspective, I see Apple as the > Porsche, > > and PC's as the 'kit cars'. > > > > One cannot deny that Porsche has some of the best industrial design > around. > > Everything fits, everything looks fantastic, and the whole 'package' > looks > > and feels like it was created with an integrated purpose and aesthetic, > from > > concept to completion. > > > > In contrast, you can't deny the 'wow' factor of a 500+ horsepower 'kit > car', > > with a supercharged V8, purple metal-flake paintjob (with flames, of > > course), and custom machined aluminum steering wheel! > > > > They both have their place, I guess, and will win the hearts of some > while > > alienating others. > > > > Rich > > --=20 *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --20cf305b122e163f2104aee45a4f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well Ive been a mac user AND a PC user for 20 years.. never really seen the= difference except that when I couldnt=A0 get my company to buy my computer= s for me I went for PC, when they did, I bought macs... But its was the sof= tware that counted, and as long as it was on both I didnt care what I used.= ..

Now Ive come to the conclusion that I hate both mac AND PC, and am wond= ering what else is there? Im going for pens pencils and paper...

m
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 10:34 PM, tEd =AE K= iLLiAn <tedk= illian@charter.net> wrote:
That's a good analogy (I think) Richard= .

I too have been using Macs in the same industry (currently as an art direct= or in an ad firm).

It's interesting how many of us (graphic arts types) are also musicians= .

Best,

Ted

On Oct 9, 2011, at 11:23 AM, Richard Atkinson wrote:

> I've been an active Mac user since 1995, due to my profession of b= eing in
> the graphics industry. =A0Macs were the de facto standard after the in= dustry
> started moving away from analog procedures (stat cameras, film/develop= ment
> chemistry, and 'burning' of printing plates) and from propriet= ary computer
> systems.
>
> Now, in my industry, software is king, and it's being developed fo= r both
> platforms. =A0The software looks and feels identical, minus a few keyb= oard
> shortcuts. =A0So, the platform wars are moot from that perspective. >
> So, with that experience driving my perspective, I see Apple as the Po= rsche,
> and PC's as the 'kit cars'.
>
> One cannot deny that Porsche has some of the best industrial design ar= ound.
> Everything fits, everything looks fantastic, and the whole 'packag= e' looks
> and feels like it was created with an integrated purpose and aesthetic= , from
> concept to completion.
>
> In contrast, you can't deny the 'wow' factor of a 500+ hor= sepower 'kit car',
> with a supercharged V8, purple metal-flake paintjob (with flames, of > course), and custom machined aluminum steering wheel!
>
> They both have their place, I guess, and will win the hearts of some w= hile
> alienating others.
>
> Rich




--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
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--20cf305b122e163f2104aee45a4f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 9 22:05:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3BC1E183475; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 22:05:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=CWIro/rqEEDCqMccRqfJgP5X2O+W7ATDGEskgpbX4go=; b=pTJ89x0pUDso9hJFHSZ5hgGv1XNrHAy/u60xvNdFLQJdjgMw5m9dcoEOTfWj44fqQs i0ae5htBx4G//tYaGh5V3IzjDS4PlTGVZoSV5SHnmnfVYOnOAh+omAcl1imJ6mXDfMcx qi54/2FUHPp5yuEWT5rBSZwec7hi/yflu9hqY= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1244.3) Subject: Re: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 18:05:28 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1244.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112231 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 22:05:31 +0000 (UTC) :) Been feeling the same way lately Mark.=20 I've been too busy to loop, but when I get back to it, I'm sticking with = pens, paper, and a few pedals. On Oct 9, 2011, at 5:27 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Well Ive been a mac user AND a PC user for 20 years.. never really = seen the difference except that when I couldnt get my company to buy my = computers for me I went for PC, when they did, I bought macs... But its = was the software that counted, and as long as it was on both I didnt = care what I used... >=20 > Now Ive come to the conclusion that I hate both mac AND PC, and am = wondering what else is there? Im going for pens pencils and paper... >=20 > m From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 9 22:41:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8BFB183475; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 22:41:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 09 Oct 2011 22:41:23 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_K69CSvdysd5CBY7hxrNXCw)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-10-09_07:2011-10-08,2011-10-09,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1110090255 From: Daniel Thomas Subject: Re: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 14:18:03 -0700 In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112232 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 22:41:23 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_K69CSvdysd5CBY7hxrNXCw) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > They both have their place, I guess They both have a place in my studio! :) Daniel On Oct 9, 2011, at 11:23 AM, Richard Atkinson wrote: > I've been an active Mac user since 1995, due to my profession of being in > the graphics industry. Macs were the de facto standard after the industry > started moving away from analog procedures (stat cameras, film/development > chemistry, and 'burning' of printing plates) and from proprietary computer > systems. > > Now, in my industry, software is king, and it's being developed for both > platforms. The software looks and feels identical, minus a few keyboard > shortcuts. So, the platform wars are moot from that perspective. > > So, with that experience driving my perspective, I see Apple as the Porsche, > and PC's as the 'kit cars'. > > One cannot deny that Porsche has some of the best industrial design around. > Everything fits, everything looks fantastic, and the whole 'package' looks > and feels like it was created with an integrated purpose and aesthetic, from > concept to completion. > > In contrast, you can't deny the 'wow' factor of a 500+ horsepower 'kit car', > with a supercharged V8, purple metal-flake paintjob (with flames, of > course), and custom machined aluminum steering wheel! > > They both have their place, I guess, and will win the hearts of some while > alienating others. > > Rich > > > > On 10/9/11 9:46 AM, "Mark Hamburg" wrote: > >> On Oct 7, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Rick Walker wrote: >> >>> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, todd reynolds wrote: >>>> I hope, when Bill Gates dies, and he most certainly will, that he'll be >>>> memorialized for all the money he's used to make the life a little better >>>> for those who struggle. It is indeed in ways that Steve Jobs did not point >>>> his efforts to. Bill Gates has done some pretty fantastic things and >>>> changed the world in similar ways even. I do hope he gets his due, and >>>> before he's unable to enjoy it. good thing to think about, Jean-Paul, >>>> thanks. >>> Bill Gates has also had an enormous impact on the world (and I, too, applaud >>> his amazingly generous >>> humanitarian aid and global consciousness raising efforts with his charitable >>> foundations after >>> his professional work was finished. >>> >>> But a distinction that I think most people are referencing (at least >>> unconsciously) in their >>> tributes is that Steve Jobs always has had a very, very strong aesthetic >>> mixed in with his >>> business efforts. >>> >>> The look of Apple products; their ergonomic appeal; their conscious attempt >>> at ease of usage >>> (even when, to me it's irritating because they become increasingly difficult >>> to customize) have all >>> been a huge aspect of his contribution. >>> >>> I don't think this single aspect can be overestimated. >>> >>> Their has always been a sense of style, grace and beauty associated with his >>> career. >>> >>> In a world that seems increasingly complex and perplexing, his aesthetic >>> vision has been like >>> a cool refreshing shower. >>> >>> I'll forgive him that his computers run really hot. >>> I'll even most likely by a PC laptop the next time I"m forced to, but >>> I really do get and appreciate where his heart has been the entire time. >>> When you talk about billionaires, that says a hell of a lot. >> >> When I was at Microsoft, people would ask why it was that when Apple took a >> harsh and controlling stance the industry and public accepted it in a way that >> they never would from Microsoft. They wondered whether this had to do with >> Microsoft not being in the valley. But, of course, that would only explain the >> industry reaction and not the public reaction. My answer was that it had to do >> with the stated goals of the companies. Microsoft's goals were about a PC on >> every desktop running Microsoft software. It was a goal about reach and about >> reach for Microsoft. Apple's goals were about building the best computer.(*) >> Microsoft's actions would therefore be interpreted as being about extending >> Microsoft's reach. Apple's actions would be interpreted as being about their >> pursuit of the best computer. The former is about the company. The latter is >> about the product. The former directly benefits no one other than Microsoft. >> The latter most directly benefits the customer. And, so similar actions, >> viewed through those very different lenses get viewed in very different ways. >> >> Mark >> >> (*) One may disagree about whether their choices led to better computers. If >> one values customization, they clearly did not. But that disagreement doesn't >> undermine the notion that they were making decisions on the basis of what they >> felt would make for better computers. >> > --Boundary_(ID_K69CSvdysd5CBY7hxrNXCw) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable They both = have their place, I guess
They both have a place = in my = studio! 

:)

Daniel =    
On Oct 9, 2011, at 11:23 AM, Richard Atkinson = wrote:

I've been an = active Mac user since 1995, due to my profession of being in
the = graphics industry.  Macs were the de facto standard after the = industry
started moving away from analog procedures (stat cameras, = film/development
chemistry, and 'burning' of printing plates) and = from proprietary computer
systems.

Now, in my industry, = software is king, and it's being developed for both
platforms. =  The software looks and feels identical, minus a few = keyboard
shortcuts.  So, the platform wars are moot from that = perspective.

So, with that experience driving my perspective, I = see Apple as the Porsche,
and PC's as the 'kit cars'.

One = cannot deny that Porsche has some of the best industrial design = around.
Everything fits, everything looks fantastic, and the whole = 'package' looks
and feels like it was created with an integrated = purpose and aesthetic, from
concept to completion.

In = contrast, you can't deny the 'wow' factor of a 500+ horsepower 'kit = car',
with a supercharged V8, purple metal-flake paintjob (with = flames, of
course), and custom machined aluminum steering = wheel!

They both have their place, I guess, and will win the = hearts of some while
alienating others.

Rich



On = 10/9/11 9:46 AM, "Mark Hamburg" <mark@grubmah.com> = wrote:

On Oct 7, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Rick = Walker wrote:

On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, todd reynolds = wrote:
I hope, when Bill Gates dies, = and he most certainly will, that he'll = be
memorialized for all the money he's used to make the life = a little better
for = those who struggle.  It is indeed in ways that Steve Jobs did not = point
his = efforts to.  Bill Gates has done some pretty fantastic things = and
changed = the world in similar ways even.  I do hope he gets his due, = and
before = he's unable to enjoy it.  good thing to think about, = Jean-Paul,
thanks. 
Bill = Gates has also had an enormous impact on the world (and I, too, =  applaud
his amazingly = generous
humanitarian aid and global = consciousness raising efforts with his = charitable
foundations = after
his professional work was = finished.

But a distinction that I think = most people are referencing (at = least
unconsciously) in = their
tributes is that Steve Jobs always has had a very, very = strong aesthetic
mixed in with = his
business efforts.

The look of Apple products; =  their ergonomic appeal;  their conscious = attempt
at ease of usage
(even when, to me it's = irritating because they become increasingly = difficult
to customize) have = all
been a huge aspect of his = contribution.

I don't think this single aspect = can be overestimated.

Their has always been a sense of = style, grace and beauty associated with = his
career.

In a world that seems = increasingly complex and perplexing,  his = aesthetic
vision has been = like
a cool refreshing = shower.

I'll forgive him that his = computers run really hot.
I'll even most likely by a PC = laptop the next time I"m forced to, = but
I really do get and appreciate where his heart has been = the entire time.
When you talk about = billionaires,  that says a hell of a = lot.

When I was at = Microsoft, people would ask why it was that when Apple took = a
harsh and controlling stance = the industry and public accepted it in a way = that
they never would from = Microsoft. They wondered whether this had to do = with
Microsoft not being in = the valley. But, of course, that would only explain = the
industry reaction and not = the public reaction. My answer was that it had to = do
with the stated goals of = the companies. Microsoft's goals were about a PC = on
every desktop running = Microsoft software. It was a goal about reach and = about
reach for Microsoft. = Apple's goals were about building the best = computer.(*)
Microsoft's = actions would therefore be interpreted as being about = extending
Microsoft's reach. = Apple's actions would be interpreted as being about = their
pursuit of the best = computer. The former is about the company. The latter = is
about the product. The = former directly benefits no one other than = Microsoft.
The latter most = directly benefits the customer. And, so similar = actions,
viewed through those = very different lenses get viewed in very different = ways.

Mark

(*) One may = disagree about whether their choices led to better computers. = If
one values customization, = they clearly did not. But that disagreement = doesn't
undermine the notion = that they were making decisions on the basis of what = they
felt would make for = better computers.



= --Boundary_(ID_K69CSvdysd5CBY7hxrNXCw)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 00:05:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47DE7183475; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 00:05:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E9236DE.9060102@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 17:05:50 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110920 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Atkinson CC: LOOPERS DELIGHT LIST Subject: Re: Re: OT Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112233 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 00:05:59 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Richard Atkinson wrote: > In contrast, you can't deny the 'wow' factor of a 500+ horsepower 'kit car', > with a supercharged V8, purple metal-flake paintjob (with flames, of > course), and custom machined aluminum steering wheel! Thanks so much for name checking my favorite color, Richard. For what it's worth, when the LP-2 Mini Looper is released, sometime in this next month, it has a purple metallic case............I'm just sayin' From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 00:12:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E3DDD183478; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 00:12:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E92386E.8000504@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 17:12:30 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110920 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Todd Matthews CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Sticking with Pens, Paper and a few Pedals was: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-zosWC.A.g2H.1hjkOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112234 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 00:12:37 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: > ............ but when I get back to it, I'm sticking with pens, paper, and a few pedals. I've just been playing only 4 string acoustic instruments (tenor guitar, tenor banjo, baritone ukuklele, bass ngoni (gut string African four string bass), Appalachian dulcimers and strumsticks (well, they are 3 strings) with occasional augmentation from my Line 6 M-9............... when the LP-2 finally arrives, I'm going to have the coolest loop (re-sample) set up and all on a small pedal board. if this wonderful looping festival wasn't so all consuming (and I'm not even doing it by myself) I'd have a new set of material to showcase but, alas, there's just not enough time. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 10:27:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 613A3183477; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:27:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=r8UPYCIaR5pkDmKS7BcmQeacxbqdIRYRsySIwZ/nUqM=; b=MLY6yAa1wx6Ly4vmo0shdqE31eHIUxS76wvBadMvZbW3S9W+9SMwP039ShVhgghFTn 3HX0N5DiPzkdPfAZxxA+Tga2ZgnqftF6vYpSOk6OIIdw+JIuDH6EeiwYL2d2u800G0RO fpMBqR3rMc1hjUc65pnv+5BawTkN67JFFlIrw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:27:23 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: OT: 5/4 challenge From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd4b0e28ebffb04aeef3cd0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112235 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:27:26 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd4b0e28ebffb04aeef3cd0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Recently I made a challenge to myself, could I write something based on 5 time? Here are the results. Its gonna end to my EP that I'm releasing by the end of this month. Not so loopy, but... -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --000e0cd4b0e28ebffb04aeef3cd0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Recently I made a challenge to myself, could I write something based on 5 time?
Here are the results. Its gonna end to my EP that I'm releasing by the end of this month.
Not so loopy, but...

--
Petri Lahtinen

http://www.petrilahtinen.com

--000e0cd4b0e28ebffb04aeef3cd0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 10:29:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BCC84183477; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:29:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=afSB3AuEt5F7CCNtuTDEQjmJ0KBenVC36eECOjHSlvM=; b=cX3K3cRHpjV2nXX2mvzNH+cttlJN94GLF5MuqIyOY5HIE+duBOKhNkc21elC8j9fmE A4D2EvUAEKoUWZdSixFlqV5bt5pOyJNcd5gPaViEsKx96qVebvY17sa3hJIRF8zMFkxJ OZT8F9ukdzs6OZOkVi+NXJkURNT4V6IjBbQGA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:29:45 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: 5/4 challenge From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd4b0e2107ec104aeef45bd Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112236 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:29:46 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd4b0e2107ec104aeef45bd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 And it would be even more challenging, if I had actually enclosed the link :-D here is is: http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen/five-times-stronger-10102011/s-GjMaj btw, I shut down my FB-profile and I sincerely hope, everythings not going around the LD-facebookpage. I just cant handle the social media, too much fuss. I'm back at e-mail, phone calls and seeing people live. I'm all for this e-mail list, at the end of the day, this is the best way to do this. -Petri- 2011/10/10 Petri Lahtinen > Recently I made a challenge to myself, could I write something based on 5 > time? > Here are the results. Its gonna end to my EP that I'm releasing by the end > of this month. > Not so loopy, but... > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --000e0cd4b0e2107ec104aeef45bd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And it would be even more challenging, if I had actually enclosed the link = :-D

here is is:

http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen= /five-times-stronger-10102011/s-GjMaj

btw, I shut down my FB-profile and I sincerely hope, everythings not go= ing around
the LD-facebookpage. I just cant handle the social media, too= much fuss.
I'm back at e-mail, phone calls and seeing people live. =
I'm all for this e-mail list, at the end of the day, this is the best w= ay to do this.

-Petri-

2011/10/10 = Petri Lahtinen <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com>
Recently I made a challenge to myself, coul= d I write something based on 5 time?
Here are the results. Its gonna end= to my EP that I'm releasing by the end of this month.
Not so loopy, but...

--
Petri Lahtinen

http://www.petrilahtinen.com




--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www= .petrilahtinen.com

--000e0cd4b0e2107ec104aeef45bd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 10:31:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2A9B18347A; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:31:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_a45267b3-1500-4afb-a625-cd6f644023d9_" X-Originating-IP: [87.102.15.109] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: RE: Echoplex plop noise Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:31:36 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2011 10:31:36.0316 (UTC) FILETIME=[C9A92BC0:01CC8737] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112237 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:31:37 +0000 (UTC) --_a45267b3-1500-4afb-a625-cd6f644023d9_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yer i had it=2C not a biggie to fix...... pop open the case=2C making sure you have got rid of any static on your sel= f or your tools of course.....(and that power is off) look for a little trimmer ( plastic circle with a screw driver cross type = thread =2C basically i did this through trial and error...move it a bit to = the left.... stop working on the unit=2C poiwer it on with an instrument pl= ugged in=2C see if the sound is more or less promounced...if more then move= in the other direction by 10 degrees=2C try again...more or less...adjust = by less and less degrees until it goes away. then replace the housing and t= hats it. usual dont kill yourself caveats apply. Date: Sat=2C 8 Oct 2011 13:36:44 +0200 Subject: Echoplex plop noise From: atqsound@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Hello=2C I am trying to fix my Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro. Everytime I loop something with the echoplex there is a "plop" noise at the= start/end of the loop. Even when there is no input and it's just recording silence. This happens a= s well when I overdub. I already checked this: - it happens both with LOOP IV and LOOP 3.3 - changing RAM didn't make a difference either I did some research on the web and found a comment of Matthias Grob to a us= er who had the same problem: "If the blopp happens in other situations=2C too=2C it might be the DC alig= ning=2C a trimmer=2C easy to set" Does anyone know what he's talking about? Any advice is welcome. Thanks and kind regards! = --_a45267b3-1500-4afb-a625-cd6f644023d9_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
yer i had it=2C not a biggie to fix......

pop open the case=2C makin= g sure you have got rid of any static on your self or your tools of course.= ....(and that power is off)

look for a little trimmer ( plastic circ= le with a =3B screw driver cross type thread =2C basically i did this t= hrough trial and error...move it a bit to the left.... stop working on the = unit=2C poiwer it on with an instrument plugged in=2C see if the sound is m= ore or less promounced...if more then move in the other direction by 10 deg= rees=2C try again...more or less...adjust by less and less degrees until it= goes away. then replace the housing and thats it.

usual dont kill y= ourself caveats apply.




Date: Sa= t=2C 8 Oct 2011 13:36:44 +0200
Subject: Echoplex plop noise
From: atq= sound@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Hello=2C

I am trying to fix my Oberheim Echo= plex Digital Pro.

Everytime I loop something with the echoplex there= is a "plop" noise at the start/end of the loop.
Even when there is no i= nput and it's just recording silence. This happens as well when I overdub.<= br>
I already checked this:
- it happens both with LOOP IV and LOOP 3.3<= br>- changing RAM didn't make a difference either

I did some researc= h on the web and found a comment of Matthias Grob to a user who had the sam= e problem:
"If the blopp happens in other situations=2C too=2C it might be the DC a= ligning=2C a trimmer=2C easy to set"

Does anyone know what he's = talking about?
Any advice is welcome.

Thanks and kind regards!
= --_a45267b3-1500-4afb-a625-cd6f644023d9_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 11:04:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A02AF183478; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:04:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zfJlbtLTxiMwHOPzQmUIPKYnzZeFu7H6vATDv25S/FU=; b=INh2Q9+thxfjLG0z7eQGBf07EyzKLpPSkVSiJpCfojlVCGIIPVVqdXfJGgYco/ej9u Ix6GClwZoiDf34e+HJdk2uWZarsm4bqHecbD1NUNafF8NRILyqvheEQwIoZbQWyVQ6Yz Ta7eMEUzsHs1le0ZTYBwsI3LP2Lef2ASTty+U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:03:59 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: 5/4 challenge From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112238 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:04:00 +0000 (UTC) nice! On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > And it would be even more challenging, if I had actually enclosed the link > :-D > > here is is: > > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen/five-times-stronger-10102011/s-GjMaj > > btw, I shut down my FB-profile and I sincerely hope, everythings not going > around > the LD-facebookpage. I just cant handle the social media, too much fuss. > I'm back at e-mail, phone calls and seeing people live. > I'm all for this e-mail list, at the end of the day, this is the best way to > do this. > > -Petri- > > 2011/10/10 Petri Lahtinen >> >> Recently I made a challenge to myself, could I write something based on 5 >> time? >> Here are the results. Its gonna end to my EP that I'm releasing by the end >> of this month. >> Not so loopy, but... >> >> -- >> Petri Lahtinen >> >> http://www.petrilahtinen.com >> > > > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 11:16:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F092318347A; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:16:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=h1LI5ifh82esJssQsTIrVN2PLPYbTc+mya+LCwy5sE0=; b=MdwueWLKo+NbvCmp8axmG77vpcTQlyO7mMPM/059Ki4lhdB2rP1Lpq+Sre92UmfV7z jV+1riGvTgiN3nXTpKFs/Y4MNEGnlkQ5UitrQFgep86Lb2ofWX3wFa28vSelrRviwESj ODGV0WQJ+t0J56u6rQZ9slQJzAijv+CpY50DQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:16:40 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: 5/4 challenge From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba212477d9064404aeefecee Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112239 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:16:41 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba212477d9064404aeefecee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks Simeon! :-) 2011/10/10 Simeon Harris > nice! > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Petri Lahtinen > wrote: > > And it would be even more challenging, if I had actually enclosed the > link > > :-D > > > > here is is: > > > > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen/five-times-stronger-10102011/s-GjMaj > > > > btw, I shut down my FB-profile and I sincerely hope, everythings not > going > > around > > the LD-facebookpage. I just cant handle the social media, too much fuss. > > I'm back at e-mail, phone calls and seeing people live. > > I'm all for this e-mail list, at the end of the day, this is the best way > to > > do this. > > > > -Petri- > > > > 2011/10/10 Petri Lahtinen > >> > >> Recently I made a challenge to myself, could I write something based on > 5 > >> time? > >> Here are the results. Its gonna end to my EP that I'm releasing by the > end > >> of this month. > >> Not so loopy, but... > >> > >> -- > >> Petri Lahtinen > >> > >> http://www.petrilahtinen.com > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Petri Lahtinen > > > > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > > > > > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --90e6ba212477d9064404aeefecee Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Simeon! :-)

2011/10/10 Simeon Harr= is <s= imeonharris40@googlemail.com>
nice!

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Petri Lahtinen
<kollegavalmentaja@gmail.= com> wrote:
> And it would be even more challenging, if I had actually enclosed the = link
> :-D
>
> here is is:
>
> http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen/five-t= imes-stronger-10102011/s-GjMaj
>
> btw, I shut down my FB-profile and I sincerely hope, everythings not g= oing
> around
> the LD-facebookpage. I just cant handle the social media, too much fus= s.
> I'm back at e-mail, phone calls and seeing people live.
> I'm all for this e-mail list, at the end of the day, this is the b= est way to
> do this.
>
> -Petri-
>
> 2011/10/10 Petri Lahtinen <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com>
>>
>> Recently I made a challenge to myself, could I write something bas= ed on 5
>> time?
>> Here are the results. Its gonna end to my EP that I'm releasin= g by the end
>> of this month.
>> Not so loopy, but...
>>
>> --
>> Petri Lahtinen
>>
>> http://= www.petrilahtinen.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Petri Lahtinen
>
> http://www.= petrilahtinen.com
>
>




--
Petri Lahti= nen

http:= //www.petrilahtinen.com

--90e6ba212477d9064404aeefecee-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 11:37:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D682418348B; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:37:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=OrrXeubVh7IIt7HhfMLoJ8Keh/PxKYQyp+9kwOuE0EA=; b=RD6QPlEKqkb1/Oy9MsM+Ujw+svPESqYCUOhOdIBgszJqDYaeS2qBOW81iEUmyc3UOW ODSMVVlvkE0/prB/SJSBr1It6Lbhwc7HmX+0FNdk3T9osvLXd+GlNwV6aViwszXWxltk D4hkmNm8vD0Vx+psT/PCaM441K/KlmIovcGLE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:37:12 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9XPNPoWEOyoPVLIShmF_fBbTh-4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: 5/4 challenge To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf300512806e4b3104aef03772 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112240 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:37:34 +0000 (UTC) --20cf300512806e4b3104aef03772 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen/five-times-stronger-10102011/s-GjMaj Jeeezz that was cool as f***! -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --20cf300512806e4b3104aef03772 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen/five-t= imes-stronger-10102011/s-GjMaj

Jeeezz that was cool as f***!

--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr= .com/photos/24478662@N00/

--20cf300512806e4b3104aef03772-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 11:50:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B747183473; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:50:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E92DBF8.3010103@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 04:50:16 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110920 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Petri Lahtinen CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: 5/4 challenge References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112241 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:50:25 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > Recently I made a challenge to myself, could I write something based > on 5 time? > Here are the results. Its gonna end to my EP that I'm releasing by the > end of this month. > Not so loopy, but... > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > Very cool, Petri. I , too, am really in love with rhythmic groupings in 5. For what it is worth, I've been very slowly working on an E.P. called 5:55:55 which is broken down into 5 different pieces that are all in either 5/8 or 5/4 time signature. I started it because I kept seeing 5:55 on my clock whether it was A.M. or P.M. It was freaky how frequent that would happen and I also love playing in subdivisions of 5. It was also inspired because I had just turned 55 (very, very slowly I said, because i just had my 58th birthday last Sunday) The songs on it are called: 1) 5 2) 55 3) 5:55 (Music for Music Box, Bowed Banjo, Glass Ghatam and Synthesizer) which is the lead off track on the latest Loopers Delight Compilation CD, Volume IV 4) 5:55:55 (Farewell Kim) (which is here on youtube with an accompanying video I made) *_http://www.youtube.com/looppool#p/u/2/jQPLjy8PsJU_* 5) Hamsa' Hand (which is the arabic word for both the number 'five' and the noun 'hand' and also is an homage to Hamsa Al Din, who was one of my two spiritual musical fathers, the great Nubian Oudist and Frame Drummer (and the first person who ever gave me a lesson on the frame drum) On the 5:55 track I programmed the polyrhtym 5 against 4 using the limitation of the diatonic tuning in C of the music box. And lastly, and please forgive the OCD nature of this post but I truly love 5, I've been working really hard on playing the Dave Brubeck song, 'Take Five' with local jazz luminaries and getting into wilder and wilder improvisations against 5/4 in the solo...... going vastly and psychedlically beyond what the great jazz drummer Joe Morello did on this, the first million selling single in jazz history. Essentially, I tell whatever pianist I'm working with to play the ostinato part when the solo occurs and to NOT listen to me, because I really try to take it way, way outside rhythmically and yet always pay homage to the spirit of 5/4 (whether using groups of 1/8ths, 1/16ths , triplet 8ths or triplet 16ths.) Okay, I"ve geeked out enough................now for 24 hours of intense cleaning of my house to prepare for all the loopers who are coming. yours, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 11:58:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6FDCC183479; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:58:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=/Hg9hyvmG4zQmRAWG8xiyQRRZiNHNaJOzKvK1qkT3as=; b=VQcc6axHLpd4J5lV9OtUnLAHBc0YFWAuWQDA6zh6aENWNQpmIOguBL7+9AiZcFEgXA TMMs8pEIstKptsUq0sbFPKW52tAF8KCNNS5yQfpqlunTC3eUcqhN/eB0FI9sM1Rus3xo TdYA1r8SXqhLDulFkCQqx9BKq7UpbvY2zkV9o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E92DBF8.3010103@cruzio.com> References: <4E92DBF8.3010103@cruzio.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 07:57:32 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: 5/4 challenge To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c3cd655c1bb04aef0815d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112242 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:58:13 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c3cd655c1bb04aef0815d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Wow, Rick, you're up EARLY for your 24 hours. (of course, I was up at 5 > too.) > That link is broken though! went to listen... page comes up, but no video. (or audio for that matter. As always, I wish I were joining you guys out there. T. > > Okay, I"ve geeked out enough................now for 24 hours of intense > cleaning of my house to prepare for > all the loopers who are coming. > > yours, Rick --0015174c3cd655c1bb04aef0815d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Wow, Rick, you&#= 39;re up EARLY for your 24 hours. =A0(of course, I was up at 5 too.)

That link is broken though! =A0went to listen... page c= omes up, but no video. (or audio for that matter.=A0

As always, I wish I were joining you guys out there.=A0

T.

=A0

Okay, =A0I"ve geeked out enough................now for 24 hours of int= ense cleaning of =A0my house to prepare for
all the loopers who are coming.

yours, =A0 Rick



--0015174c3cd655c1bb04aef0815d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 11:59:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56B45183489; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:59:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=hncSYZckovRjJKlYsElQruD2Y/hfCKA+MR80eXBJikA=; b=uND0ZrgzP+uzeqL0boZ8Zkzqn+4satHcaA9JfNNdnPx7Yl6xZy6lq+t9w/Wmn9M7p0 YJI31Gzlj0etke8weJyaEZjTX6qNGAL5wfYo92yTXOQNTq51XIosLREgxAnhzil/EKdz 6qyHAmjBhmE9cQOFIARvgD3oTVO2Y8QA79rp8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4E92DBF8.3010103@cruzio.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 07:58:33 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: 5/4 challenge To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747948ef8456404aef08481 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112243 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:59:14 +0000 (UTC) --00151747948ef8456404aef08481 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable jeez, i'm a dufus... sorry. Just had to find it on the right. that was just a link to your channel... t. On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 7:57 AM, todd reynolds wrote: > Wow, Rick, you're up EARLY for your 24 hours. (of course, I was up at 5 >> too.) >> > > That link is broken though! went to listen... page comes up, but no vide= o. > (or audio for that matter. > > As always, I wish I were joining you guys out there. > > T. > > > >> >> Okay, I"ve geeked out enough................now for 24 hours of intense >> cleaning of my house to prepare for >> all the loopers who are coming. >> >> yours, Rick > > > > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 The most recent newsletter is here. =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page . =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --00151747948ef8456404aef08481 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable jeez, i'm a dufus... sorry. =A0Just had to find it on the right. =A0tha= t was just a link to your channel...=A0

t.

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 7:57 AM, todd reyno= lds <toddreyn@gm= ail.com> wrote:
Wow, Rick, you're up EARLY for your 24 hours. =A0(of course, I was up a= t 5 too.)

That link is broken though! =A0went to listen... page c= omes up, but no video. (or audio for that matter.=A0

As always, I wish I were joining you guys out there.=A0

T.

=A0

Okay, =A0I"ve geeked out enough................now for 24 hours of int= ense cleaning of =A0my house to prepare for
all the loopers who are coming.

yours, =A0 Rick






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=95 The most recent newsletter is here.

=95=A0Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now avail= able wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page.



--00151747948ef8456404aef08481-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 12:01:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C2DD18348C; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:01:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Gj8lDFDTYMM32NrBre/gZfvf7nCAP5Ih228MlMEPx3c=; b=MwY4TGH22hfekMc2cPg3RVhp/dw0Ic4vnd+53L4FWLOyoF7eD3vG4ZIkTec+Lrr7xZ wv7efNOMFzXd9fMg6Sr7wSzGbVRq3jkIoJ61QUAsapnYENbSbPY746Pxl6E5IHDUxom1 lmTy0tz9DQM8E50cNFOJrhx3cY3MeHgyZsKr8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:01:07 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: 5/4 challenge From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ra=FCl_Bonell?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016369f9bb0cbf00b04aef08b09 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112244 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:01:08 +0000 (UTC) --0016369f9bb0cbf00b04aef08b09 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Indeed, very nice! 2011/10/10 Petri Lahtinen > Recently I made a challenge to myself, could I write something based on 5 > time? > Here are the results. Its gonna end to my EP that I'm releasing by the end > of this month. > Not so loopy, but... > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > > -- .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-..-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Your moral values are meaningless, artificial constructs. For your imagination, they provide you a falsely superior position in your social group. For the strong, they provide a means by which you are easily manipulated. In reality, they serve the entertainment needs of others. In the Kimatorium, they are irrelevant. Kim Flint .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com --0016369f9bb0cbf00b04aef08b09 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Indeed, very nice!

2011/10/10 Petri Lahti= nen <ko= llegavalmentaja@gmail.com>
Recently I made a challenge to myself, could I write something based on 5 t= ime?
Here are the results. Its gonna end to my EP that I'm releasing= by the end of this month.
Not so loopy, but...

--
Petri Lahtinen

http://www.petrilahtinen.com




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.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-= .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-..-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-= .
Your moral values are meaningless, artificial constru= cts. For your imagination,
they provide you a falsely superior position in your social group.

For the strong, they provide a means by which you are e= asily manipulated.

In reality, they serve the en= tertainment needs of others.

In the Kimatorium, they are irrelevant.


Kim= Flint

.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.raulbonell.tumb= lr.com - collective= .com


--0016369f9bb0cbf00b04aef08b09-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 12:22:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D084B183478; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:22:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=YWKD7dfRn8py2aj1msvCGIXjM+BK8keHU8IayECGJ4E=; b=UmPGiKd0YjyIsURBXHfuJdl5lkE5F6COg5vMCiNMlIDqpU2RwVx4e5bvMNra4kbxEy MxUh4UP34MtJtNdspO/TWGEVAdmPiQlawaJSiuX/JMtvMfuBd4n0F9E823KlhFW5aRxE X7MzHvfg/kDODSYPl/U30+ieNX82bOilamF8k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:22:51 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: 5/4 challenge From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba2121b985ba9004aef0d974 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112245 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:22:52 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba2121b985ba9004aef0d974 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks guys for the supportive comments. And on Rick's 5-post... yeah, you really have delved into that! :-) -Petri- 2011/10/10 Ra=FCl Bonell > Indeed, very nice! > > > 2011/10/10 Petri Lahtinen > >> Recently I made a challenge to myself, could I write something based on = 5 >> time? >> Here are the results. Its gonna end to my EP that I'm releasing by the e= nd >> of this month. >> Not so loopy, but... >> >> -- >> Petri Lahtinen >> >> http://www.petrilahtinen.com >> >> > > > -- > > .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-..-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-= .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. > Your moral values are meaningless, artificial constructs. For your > imagination, > they provide you a falsely superior position in your social group. > For the strong, they provide a means by which you are easily manipulated. > In reality, they serve the entertainment needs of others. > In the Kimatorium, they are irrelevant. > > Kim Flint > .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. > raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com > > > --=20 Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --90e6ba2121b985ba9004aef0d974 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks guys for the supportive comments.
And on Rick's 5-post... yea= h, you really have delved into that! :-)

-Petri-




--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www= .petrilahtinen.com

--90e6ba2121b985ba9004aef0d974-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 12:24:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E28DF183479; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=8HS4B6d+uknplkDUIcX2mXbuqA318K3Aeogje9S4ECs=; b=e6Qy2elrbLFp6nnUPsLj8bnbPsAjI3ozNAvzGfPCT2psC+Cyt/so6p7G2ALxrSxD4M 57uTOXJZDR1PGl7gGO10FIg/NboGzezd1qdxm4ObbSO1X4tiFM+F+vfjnSc9ZF3b3BQ9 KeRW2RrsQ0VxhHaxEjS35i3dqaPaXmOYUF4j0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:24:20 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Steve Reich at 75 From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd4b0e2d5120004aef0dec5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112246 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:24:22 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd4b0e2d5120004aef0dec5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Always love everything Reich-related, thanks Todd! 2011/10/4 todd reynolds > Hi my looping brethren. > > Since there's oft conversation about Steve Reich here, I thought I'd post > this link for y'all. > > NPR Music got a few of us together to write some personal reflections > on the man and his music on the occasion of his 75th Birthday today. Some > nice audio snippets for streaming as well. > > http://www.npr.org/2011/10/03/140951516/steve-reich-music-we-love > > All the best to you all. > > Todd > > -- > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --000e0cd4b0e2d5120004aef0dec5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Always love everything Reich-related, thanks Todd!

2011/10/4 todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com>
Hi my looping brethren. =A0

Since there's oft conver= sation about Steve Reich here, I thought I'd post this link for y'a= ll. =A0

NPR Music got a few of us together to writ= e some personal reflections on=A0the man and his music on the occasion of h= is 75th Birthday today. Some nice audio snippets for streaming as well.=A0<= /div>


All the best t= o you all.=A0

Todd

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--
Petri Lahtinen

<= a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.petril= ahtinen.com

--000e0cd4b0e2d5120004aef0dec5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 12:25:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F3D7183479; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:25:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=zER+cGPFR9B3KR0JblskmY6CMjYrOb0/iUAjE5ihhgM=; b=Bp5sit/vrnBTutkuf4tx3klssPfs4gDj4pSqr14tSxsrj1q0IB7G3yu5Jt1w04ga5J vGr3bCDbal0IXqdsu+LCVkXQJU0AVBoDgYZjDghISLXMYGMshirJhBB+iN1odmUmFfnF IzUqjPW+rCgI4q50PjzOqHWqOKoMty9AgKv60= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: todd reynolds Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 08:24:58 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Steve Reich at 75 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015173feec4713c8404aef0e303 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112247 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:25:39 +0000 (UTC) --0015173feec4713c8404aef0e303 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My pleasure! On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > Always love everything Reich-related, thanks Todd! > > > 2011/10/4 todd reynolds > >> Hi my looping brethren. >> >> Since there's oft conversation about Steve Reich here, I thought I'd pos= t >> this link for y'all. >> >> NPR Music got a few of us together to write some personal reflections >> on the man and his music on the occasion of his 75th Birthday today. Som= e >> nice audio snippets for streaming as well. >> >> http://www.npr.org/2011/10/03/140951516/steve-reich-music-we-love >> >> All the best to you all. >> >> Todd >> >> -- >> >> > > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 The most recent newsletter is here. =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page . =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --0015173feec4713c8404aef0e303 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My pleasure!=A0

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8= :24 AM, Petri Lahtinen <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
Always love everything Reich-related, thanks Todd!


2011/10/4 todd reynolds <todd= reyn@gmail.com>
Hi my looping brethren. =A0

Since there's oft conver= sation about Steve Reich here, I thought I'd post this link for y'a= ll. =A0

NPR Music got a few of us together to writ= e some personal reflections on=A0the man and his music on the occasion of h= is 75th Birthday today. Some nice audio snippets for streaming as well.=A0<= /div>


All the best t= o you all.=A0

Todd

=
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--
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http://www.petrilahtinen.com




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=95 The most recent newsletter is here.

=95=A0Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now avail= able wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page.



--0015173feec4713c8404aef0e303-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 12:30:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBF3E183489; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:30:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PzeJYtfzblJbGIf1liPyP+CBBzTt9AdbWk1iBtE32a0=; b=BeagLS/WOF8tVkECuAySHvbj6vnOgIeMZVAJrAyBEzXlgcd7UCTtlQ2jxlCG5SQy6X UVQw2SlFk5sgjbmAWe23XG2NJdOysZSyyvfohwmn4zKzSWOcxDGUXNA6I/VpmxRRup5G tsUdiE2I0h2S2k5dteh3ervbAfa/VS1Qmlpz0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:30:32 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: daft question about ableton live From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <7Ih1kD.A.Hl.uVukOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112248 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:30:38 +0000 (UTC) ok, i've skimmed the manual, but i don't think my head is in the right zone... is it possible to record the main out mix? this probably seems daft, but i'm just not getting it...there's lots of stuff about clips and all that, but i just want to hit record and be able to retrieve a file of what i'm hearing from the main outs... confusedly yours... sim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 12:31:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B125318348D; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:31:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=b+pxZ9iEYvldw43ItpU+2YhF1qL81toRjBlYBDW0F/c=; b=bgs55dpswEh9Mh2zfC9b4SZMNyVQXr0aRAy28x+tJIB4n1ZxJn4KJ9vpLaIseAT4Jt gagDUiFc/vK9PJp5Ndq/gGhntrfQa/bMVMn0mmvpdr472CLc1MFh0AEpxCQA38oUsStQ sxcF10c99R421T5Gf48EMEJUeFqfClWfYLcQE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:31:12 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Tryin' Not to sound From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151773d64c64401404aef0f7be Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112249 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:31:14 +0000 (UTC) --00151773d64c64401404aef0f7be Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 as any butt-kissing-type o' thing but: I fired up my e-mail client 2 hours ago, and ever since I have been going through all of these fabulous links, discussions that recent LD-posts are full of! This community has severely changed the way I think, do and participate with the thing called music, today. And to double my plea from the 5/4-post, I hope everyone stays and participates in the list, and dont put all content on LD's Facebook-page, cause I dont have an account there anymore! Thanks to everyone! -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --00151773d64c64401404aef0f7be Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable as any butt-kissing-type o' thing but:

I fired up my e-mail clie= nt 2 hours ago,
and ever since I have been going through all of these fa= bulous links,
discussions that recent LD-posts are full of!

This = community has severely changed the way I think, do and participate with the= thing called music, today.

And to double my plea from the 5/4-post, I hope everyone stays and part= icipates in the list,
and dont put all content on LD's Facebook-page= , cause I dont have an account there anymore!

Thanks to everyone!
--
Petri Lahtinen

http://www.petrilahtinen.com

--00151773d64c64401404aef0f7be-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 12:31:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05A2C183492; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:31:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ggLFAw9H/CLmXJPh515VdFWXX+MzGhWb9BKmhmK3Osc=; b=wXZI2tjB1Fzi8sR6kaxzW+G13gBQPYHRgq1defswAnrBBhOO2lt1z94QEhutiE9vL0 449q+kg6VTi6pDhXwJJ1ImlUf0wPfjy+xkGXGaFKMv1zvLb54VhtOmIfY/IUf3RZS6Zb zqUI5cqJN34hK4DdBB4kxFoWzF0AqHQgOmeso= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:31:37 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: xF70KOUaKEShcRXpQ002ay3R4pg Message-ID: Subject: Re: daft question about ableton live From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112250 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:31:38 +0000 (UTC) make an audio track set its input to 'resampling' record enable it & hit record os. On 10 October 2011 13:30, Simeon Harris wrote: > ok, i've skimmed the manual, but i don't think my head is in the right zone... > > is it possible to record the main out mix? > > this probably seems daft, but i'm just not getting it...there's lots > of stuff about clips and all that, but i just want to hit record and > be able to retrieve a file of what i'm hearing from the main outs... > > confusedly yours... > > sim > > -- os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 12:35:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4AC12183490; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:35:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fh7hINADrYcDNlK+SYcQx8hKRs+fCsBtB0lNC15zFyE=; b=ttnKtLcsC2ehzuaaeEtg5QGYKxLZ4rVqN8ytrkp2rnNIs+Cf3nk7+nwae/J6eg/OZt ewKszUDTxU0QomLnKnOrvriwMDWxHnRV+IQRbIpxdDZ+jQMQV1hrtUXZe4Jhmep/XR69 NAe5nWwLAqqVjstiQBH0FtrBXMJYH3WnrYuP8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:35:31 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: daft question about ableton live From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112251 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:35:33 +0000 (UTC) thanks os! :O) On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Os wrote: > make an audio track > set its input to 'resampling' > record enable it & hit record > > > os. > > > On 10 October 2011 13:30, Simeon Harris wrote: >> ok, i've skimmed the manual, but i don't think my head is in the right zone... >> >> is it possible to record the main out mix? >> >> this probably seems daft, but i'm just not getting it...there's lots >> of stuff about clips and all that, but i just want to hit record and >> be able to retrieve a file of what i'm hearing from the main outs... >> >> confusedly yours... >> >> sim >> >> > > > > -- > os@collective.co.uk > http://twitter.com/expertsleepers > http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 12:59:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B588183493; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:59:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2985 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:59:19 UTC From: "Tyler, Joanne" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:12:21 +0200 Subject: RE: OT: 5/4 challenge Thread-Topic: OT: 5/4 challenge Thread-Index: AcyHRbUlasdxJO8LSmGck8xCBrpsqgAAAnEw Message-ID: <0D12F4912FB75044AD412D227F566ECF4BC0726A7A@AL-ICT-EXMB.ufh-domain.local> References: <4E92DBF8.3010103@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US, en-ZA Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, en-ZA Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_0D12F4912FB75044AD412D227F566ECF4BC0726A7AALICTEXMBufhd_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MXID: p9ACHfOY027483 X-Scanned-By: MailXServer-v4.7d on 172.20.0.10 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112252 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:59:25 +0000 (UTC) --_000_0D12F4912FB75044AD412D227F566ECF4BC0726A7AALICTEXMBufhd_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please do not send me any e-mails You are wasting my time From: todd reynolds [mailto:toddreyn@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 1:59 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: 5/4 challenge jeez, i'm a dufus... sorry. Just had to find it on the right. that was ju= st a link to your channel... t. On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 7:57 AM, todd reynolds > wrote: Wow, Rick, you're up EARLY for your 24 hours. (of course, I was up at 5 to= o.) That link is broken though! went to listen... page comes up, but no video.= (or audio for that matter. As always, I wish I were joining you guys out there. T. Okay, I"ve geeked out enough................now for 24 hours of intense cl= eaning of my house to prepare for all the loopers who are coming. yours, Rick -- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D * The most recent newsletter is here. * Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever mus= ic is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds =0D =0D The University of Fort Hare subscribes to an e-mail disclaimer. Please clic= k on the following URL to read further:=0D http://www.ufh.ac.za/disclaimer/=0D =0D --_000_0D12F4912FB75044AD412D227F566ECF4BC0726A7AALICTEXMBufhd_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
2011/10/10 Ra=FCl Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com>
Indeed, very nice!


2011/10/10 Petri Lahtinen <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com>
Recently I made a challenge to myself, could I write something based on 5 t= ime?
Here are the results. Its gonna end to my EP that I'm releasing= by the end of this month.
Not so loopy, but...

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Please do= not send me any e-mails  You are wasting my time

 

From: todd reynolds [mailto:toddreyn@gmail.com]
Sent:= Monday, October 10, 2011 1:59 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-del= ight.com
Subject: Re: OT: 5/4 challenge

 

jeez, i'm = a dufus... sorry.  Just had to find it on the right.  that was ju= st a link to your channel... 

=  

t.

 =

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 7:57 AM, todd reynold= s <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrot= e:

<= p class=3DMsoNormal>Wow, Rick, you're up EARLY for your 24 hours.  (of= course, I was up at 5 too.)

 

That link is br= oken though!  went to listen... page comes up, but no video. (or audio= for that matter. 

=  

As always, I wish I were jo= ining you guys out there. 

 

T.

 

 

=
Okay,  I"ve geeked out enough................now for 24 hours= of intense cleaning of  my house to prepare for
all the loopers wh= o are coming.

yours,   Rick

 

 

 



=

 

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Please do not send me any e-mails=A0 You are wasting my time

=A0

From: todd reyn= olds [mailto:toddre= yn@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 1:59 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@l= oopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: OT: 5/4 challenge

=A0

jeez, i'm a dufus... sorry. =A0Just had= to find it on the right. =A0that was just a link to your channel...=A0<= /u>

=A0

t.

=A0

On Mon, = Oct 10, 2011 at 7:57 AM, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:

Wow, Rick, you're up EARLY for your 24 hours. =A0(of course, I was= up at 5 too.)

=A0

That link is broken though! =A0went to listen... page = comes up, but no video. (or audio for that matter.=A0

=A0

As always, I wish I were joining you guys out there.=A0

=A0

T.

=A0

=A0


Okay, =A0I"ve geeked out enough............= ....now for 24 hours of intense cleaning of =A0my house to prepare for
a= ll the loopers who are coming.

yours, =A0 Rick

=A0

= =A0

=A0<= /p>



= =A0

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=95 The most r= ecent newsletter is here.

=A0

=95=A0Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wh= erever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page.

=A0=

=A0

= =A0

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--000e0cd4b0ee1bfbb304aef23cb6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 14:08:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84F7C183478; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:08:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E92FC64.7080901@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 16:08:36 +0200 From: chrisrover User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.4; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110920 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: 5/4 challenge Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070603010101040003070300" x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:162115168:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c24e92fc6a282e X-AOL-IP: 217.244.225.47 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112254 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:08:47 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070603010101040003070300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For your kind consideration,live looping with drums in 5/4 and more than five good reasons to do so: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkRBDZAJ3n0 Greetings to all :-) --------------070603010101040003070300 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For your kind consideration, live looping with drums
in 5/4 and more than five good reasons to do so:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkRBDZAJ3n0

Greetings to all :-)


--------------070603010101040003070300-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 14:31:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2687B183475; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:31:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=eto0M65GAn3ohwniMQnnE2jKc7U3j7pcyAq10f3W/Ps=; b=QVJ0ckOxGZax3l2/Hu+j2BedFeYD/5Cof9vtm4psgP/7Nos8d8w1k2XdcGXnDXJBOj +lckW/ctEZrMiSMWB0nHFnohYrtH8uNK5yMulaYA/FJ5Eqs9o8kLIaDMwYe4ayEALG0A 6JBCMsYyxEtcpGQ7xLU/tNWQHKE4VwBtM/9Jk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:31:11 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: 5/4 challenge From: Wytold Lebing To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51f93e57acb2e04aef2a4f4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112255 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:31:13 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec51f93e57acb2e04aef2a4f4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Petri that was awesome - especially with the overlay of the 6/8 feel. It sounded beautiful but also took me a while to figure out what was going on - which I definitely look for in music! In a completely different style, here's a video of me playing one of my looping songs that has a 'chorus' in 5: http://www.youtube.com/user/bowmoneydrums#p/u/12/9FwbxcehWCs The other parts of the song are in 4, but the chorus is in 5, and since I'm playing on an RC-50 it pretty much all needs to be the same time signature. So I put the RC-50 in 4/4, play 4 repetitions of the 5 beat phrase, and voila this show was just on Saturday night...(I know the lights are distracting, sorry hah) On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 6:29 AM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > And it would be even more challenging, if I had actually enclosed the link > :-D > > here is is: > > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen/five-times-stronger-10102011/s-GjMaj > > btw, I shut down my FB-profile and I sincerely hope, everythings not going > around > the LD-facebookpage. I just cant handle the social media, too much fuss. > I'm back at e-mail, phone calls and seeing people live. > I'm all for this e-mail list, at the end of the day, this is the best way > to do this. > > -Petri- > > > 2011/10/10 Petri Lahtinen > >> Recently I made a challenge to myself, could I write something based on 5 >> time? >> Here are the results. Its gonna end to my EP that I'm releasing by the end >> of this month. >> Not so loopy, but... >> >> -- >> Petri Lahtinen >> >> http://www.petrilahtinen.com >> >> > > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > > -- Wytold www.Wytold.com My New CD "When Fulvio Finds Celeste" --bcaec51f93e57acb2e04aef2a4f4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Petri that was awesome - especially with the overlay of the 6/8 feel.=A0 It= sounded beautiful but also took me a while to figure out what was going on= - which I definitely look for in music!

In a completely different s= tyle, here's a video of me playing one of my looping songs that has a &= #39;chorus' in 5:

http://www.youtube.com/user/bowmoneydrums#p/u/12/9FwbxcehWCs

T= he other parts of the song are in 4, but the chorus is in 5, and since I= 9;m playing on an RC-50 it pretty much all needs to be the same time signat= ure.=A0 So I put the RC-50 in 4/4, play 4 repetitions of the 5 beat phrase,= and voila

=A0this show was just on Saturday night...(I know the lights are distra= cting, sorry hah)

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at= 6:29 AM, Petri Lahtinen <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
And it would be e= ven more challenging, if I had actually enclosed the link :-D

here i= s is:

http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen/five-ti= mes-stronger-10102011/s-GjMaj

btw, I shut down my FB-profile and I sincerely hope, everythings not go= ing around
the LD-facebookpage. I just cant handle the social media, too= much fuss.
I'm back at e-mail, phone calls and seeing people live. =
I'm all for this e-mail list, at the end of the day, this is the best w= ay to do this.

-Petri-


2011/10/10 Petri Laht= inen <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com>
Recently I made a= challenge to myself, could I write something based on 5 time?
Here are = the results. Its gonna end to my EP that I'm releasing by the end of th= is month.
Not so loopy, but...

--
Petri Lahtinen

http://www.petrilahtinen.com




--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www= .petrilahtinen.com




--
Wytold=
=A0

--bcaec51f93e57acb2e04aef2a4f4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 14:48:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26754183478; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:48:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XV8DscfiIMakxZ+yaiP+myVz9ZuGa2mTUsg1mYY8at4=; b=k1XoqBwYxoylmugDt8jzY7knUyZ4fwjRSgo7TSSRm2OIB0uWPXjJ+KJRPjcHWSzWh1 HtSMV4kBaZEj18pvIs3CxTemXCVFTZDD5MqnWsbRfweQNBDGA/7zmT6tBe0ZvrSFKRvu Tw83271dHBSO8L9y3XvTjltpKAmmtxnwmWSkE= Message-ID: <4E9305A5.4080504@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 16:48:05 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: beefing up diatonic instruments - was: OT: 5/4 challenge References: <4E92DBF8.3010103@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4E92DBF8.3010103@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112256 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:48:10 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker schrieb: > On the 5:55 track I programmed the polyrhtym 5 against 4 using the > limitation > of the diatonic tuning in C of the music box. Of course, as we're all using these strange loop things, here's a concept to escape the limitations of diatonic tuning. You need: a looper which has more speed settings than normal/half/double. I personally use Mobius a lot, but something like e.g. an Eventide TimeFactory, Lexicon 84, EH SMM w/Hazari etc. will also do fine (Rick, I would expect the LP-1 can do this as well?) Sticking with the C Ionian (major) example, play a melody into the looper. Then do a varispeed, and get any of the chromatic pitches you desire...depending on which speed factor you use, more or less of them (e.g. 3/2 original speed = 5th up = you get an f#, 4/3 original speed = 4th up = you get a Bb etc.), which you can then use againts the live-played diatonic instrument. Now to wrestle this back on topic regarding odd time signatures: the loop does not only change pitch, but also tempo. So if your loop originally had a length of two bars (let's stick with the 5/4 example - that would be 10 4ths), after shifting it up a 4th, it's now 10/(4/3)=15/8ths long, but if you played a quarter note before, this is now a dotted eight. So play your original two bar melody into the looper, varispeed it to 4/3, and continue playing your original melody on your diatonic instrument - polyrhythm and chromatic tonality from a diatonic instrument all in one looping box! Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 15:19:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 72E6318347A; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:19:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 681816559/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.182.251/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.182.251 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkoCACAMk05V0rb7/2dsb2JhbAAMN5kykT0BAQEBAzhAEQsRAwECAQkWDwkDAgECAQ8uCBkDAcBeh0MEmQ6FFIco X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.68,517,1312153200"; d="scan'208";a="681816559" Message-ID: <4E930D0F.2080607@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 16:19:43 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex plop noise References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112257 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:19:44 +0000 (UTC) Phils right, but there's a way to set it accurately by going into an EDP test mode on bootup. more info to follow, I'll have to look it up. (unless anyone else knows it) andy phillip wilson wrote: > yer i had it, not a biggie to fix...... > > pop open the case, making sure you have got rid of any static on your > self or your tools of course.....(and that power is off) > > look for a little trimmer ( plastic circle with a screw driver cross > type thread , basically i did this through trial and error...move it a > bit to the left.... stop working on the unit, poiwer it on with an > instrument plugged in, see if the sound is more or less promounced...if > more then move in the other direction by 10 degrees, try again...more or > less...adjust by less and less degrees until it goes away. then replace > the housing and thats it. > > usual dont kill yourself caveats apply. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 13:36:44 +0200 > Subject: Echoplex plop noise > From: atqsound@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Hello, > > I am trying to fix my Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro. > > Everytime I loop something with the echoplex there is a "plop" noise at > the start/end of the loop. > Even when there is no input and it's just recording silence. This > happens as well when I overdub. > > I already checked this: > - it happens both with LOOP IV and LOOP 3.3 > - changing RAM didn't make a difference either > > I did some research on the web and found a comment of Matthias Grob to a > user who had the same problem: > /"If the blopp happens in other situations, too, it might be the DC > aligning, a trimmer, easy to set"/ > > Does anyone know what he's talking about? > Any advice is welcome. > > Thanks and kind regards! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 15:27:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2AB5D183489; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:27:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_16176009-0029-4090-a399-6ba7c2f100a8_" X-Originating-IP: [87.102.15.109] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: RE: Echoplex plop noise Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:27:32 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4E930D0F.2080607@tiscali.co.uk> References: ,<4E930D0F.2080607@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2011 15:27:33.0305 (UTC) FILETIME=[21A6AA90:01CC8761] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112258 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:27:34 +0000 (UTC) --_16176009-0029-4090-a399-6ba7c2f100a8_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh yer........your totally right...... thats even how i did it=2C i just forgot it existed when tryig to describe = how i might have achieved it. think it was holding down two buttons upon powerup...cant remember which th= ough > Date: Mon=2C 10 Oct 2011 16:19:43 +0100 > From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Echoplex plop noise >=20 > Phils right=2C > but there's a way to set it accurately > by going into an EDP test mode on bootup. >=20 > more info to follow=2C I'll have to look it up. >=20 > (unless anyone else knows it) >=20 > andy >=20 > phillip wilson wrote: > > yer i had it=2C not a biggie to fix...... > >=20 > > pop open the case=2C making sure you have got rid of any static on your= =20 > > self or your tools of course.....(and that power is off) > >=20 > > look for a little trimmer ( plastic circle with a screw driver cross=20 > > type thread =2C basically i did this through trial and error...move it = a=20 > > bit to the left.... stop working on the unit=2C poiwer it on with an=20 > > instrument plugged in=2C see if the sound is more or less promounced...= if=20 > > more then move in the other direction by 10 degrees=2C try again...more= or=20 > > less...adjust by less and less degrees until it goes away. then replace= =20 > > the housing and thats it. > >=20 > > usual dont kill yourself caveats apply. > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > Date: Sat=2C 8 Oct 2011 13:36:44 +0200 > > Subject: Echoplex plop noise > > From: atqsound@gmail.com > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >=20 > > Hello=2C > >=20 > > I am trying to fix my Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro. > >=20 > > Everytime I loop something with the echoplex there is a "plop" noise at= =20 > > the start/end of the loop. > > Even when there is no input and it's just recording silence. This=20 > > happens as well when I overdub. > >=20 > > I already checked this: > > - it happens both with LOOP IV and LOOP 3.3 > > - changing RAM didn't make a difference either > >=20 > > I did some research on the web and found a comment of Matthias Grob to = a=20 > > user who had the same problem: > > /"If the blopp happens in other situations=2C too=2C it might be the DC= =20 > > aligning=2C a trimmer=2C easy to set"/ > >=20 > > Does anyone know what he's talking about? > > Any advice is welcome. > >=20 > > Thanks and kind regards! >=20 = --_16176009-0029-4090-a399-6ba7c2f100a8_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Oh yer........your totally right......

thats even how i did it=2C i = just forgot it existed when tryig to describe how i might have achieved it.=

think it was holding down two buttons upon powerup...cant remember = which though

>=3B Date: Mon=2C 10 Oct 2011 16:19:43 +0100
= >=3B From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-d= elight.com
>=3B Subject: Re: Echoplex plop noise
>=3B
>=3B = Phils right=2C
>=3B but there's a way to set it accurately
>=3B b= y going into an EDP test mode on bootup.
>=3B
>=3B more info to = follow=2C I'll have to look it up.
>=3B
>=3B (unless anyone else= knows it)
>=3B
>=3B andy
>=3B
>=3B phillip wilson wr= ote:
>=3B >=3B yer i had it=2C not a biggie to fix......
>=3B &= gt=3B
>=3B >=3B pop open the case=2C making sure you have got rid o= f any static on your
>=3B >=3B self or your tools of course.....(an= d that power is off)
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B look for a little t= rimmer ( plastic circle with a screw driver cross
>=3B >=3B type t= hread =2C basically i did this through trial and error...move it a
>= =3B >=3B bit to the left.... stop working on the unit=2C poiwer it on wit= h an
>=3B >=3B instrument plugged in=2C see if the sound is more or= less promounced...if
>=3B >=3B more then move in the other directi= on by 10 degrees=2C try again...more or
>=3B >=3B less...adjust by = less and less degrees until it goes away. then replace
>=3B >=3B th= e housing and thats it.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B usual dont kill = yourself caveats apply.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >= =3B
>=3B >=3B -----------------------------------------------------= -------------------
>=3B >=3B Date: Sat=2C 8 Oct 2011 13:36:44 +0200=
>=3B >=3B Subject: Echoplex plop noise
>=3B >=3B From: atqso= und@gmail.com
>=3B >=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
&= gt=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Hello=2C
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B = I am trying to fix my Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro.
>=3B >=3B
&= gt=3B >=3B Everytime I loop something with the echoplex there is a "plop"= noise at
>=3B >=3B the start/end of the loop.
>=3B >=3B Eve= n when there is no input and it's just recording silence. This
>=3B &= gt=3B happens as well when I overdub.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B I = already checked this:
>=3B >=3B - it happens both with LOOP IV and L= OOP 3.3
>=3B >=3B - changing RAM didn't make a difference either
= >=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B I did some research on the web and found a = comment of Matthias Grob to a
>=3B >=3B user who had the same probl= em:
>=3B >=3B /"If the blopp happens in other situations=2C too=2C i= t might be the DC
>=3B >=3B aligning=2C a trimmer=2C easy to set"/<= br>>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Does anyone know what he's talking about= ?
>=3B >=3B Any advice is welcome.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >= =3B Thanks and kind regards!
>=3B
= --_16176009-0029-4090-a399-6ba7c2f100a8_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 15:44:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22B48183462; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:44:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=k7An5HpyfoBtIzgDF8JPq0xq9exFvRQv9eDbLiZ6Hj0=; b=N/Fst+12Pke4pdslm3PfNrbRdJQR3xEWvjAafX07+KDU4eoy8FzNVPiXZCEHRji7/4 ed/m+RVuG+t8t27GdtZOiwVRF75v4Lr2HcfgAPiIJGNPBim6+6tp6bHX+S0gt0sj5M+q fTJnbj1MZczSyMbIhhgZ9/Z/OGP5GWw2ub9QQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E930D0F.2080607@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4E930D0F.2080607@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:44:31 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Echoplex plop noise From: atq sound To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174feba4be1b4404aef3aa2e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112259 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:44:33 +0000 (UTC) --0015174feba4be1b4404aef3aa2e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Okay, thanks Andy and Phil. Please let me know how to do it, after you've looked it up. 2011/10/10 andy butler > Phils right, > but there's a way to set it accurately > by going into an EDP test mode on bootup. > > more info to follow, I'll have to look it up. > > (unless anyone else knows it) > > andy > > phillip wilson wrote: > >> yer i had it, not a biggie to fix...... >> >> pop open the case, making sure you have got rid of any static on your self >> or your tools of course.....(and that power is off) >> >> look for a little trimmer ( plastic circle with a screw driver cross type >> thread , basically i did this through trial and error...move it a bit to the >> left.... stop working on the unit, poiwer it on with an instrument plugged >> in, see if the sound is more or less promounced...if more then move in the >> other direction by 10 degrees, try again...more or less...adjust by less and >> less degrees until it goes away. then replace the housing and thats it. >> >> usual dont kill yourself caveats apply. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >> ------------ >> >> Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 13:36:44 +0200 >> Subject: Echoplex plop noise >> From: atqsound@gmail.com >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-**delight.com >> >> Hello, >> >> I am trying to fix my Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro. >> >> Everytime I loop something with the echoplex there is a "plop" noise at >> the start/end of the loop. >> Even when there is no input and it's just recording silence. This happens >> as well when I overdub. >> >> I already checked this: >> - it happens both with LOOP IV and LOOP 3.3 >> - changing RAM didn't make a difference either >> >> I did some research on the web and found a comment of Matthias Grob to a >> user who had the same problem: >> /"If the blopp happens in other situations, too, it might be the DC >> aligning, a trimmer, easy to set"/ >> >> >> Does anyone know what he's talking about? >> Any advice is welcome. >> >> Thanks and kind regards! >> > > --0015174feba4be1b4404aef3aa2e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Okay, thanks Andy and Phil.
Please let me know how to do it, after you&#= 39;ve looked it up.


2011/10/10 andy b= utler <akbut= ler@tiscali.co.uk>
Phils right,
but there's a way to set it accurately
by going into an EDP test mode on bootup.

more info to follow, I'll have to look it up.

(unless anyone else knows it)

andy

phillip wilson wrote:
yer i had it, not a biggie to fix......

pop open the case, making sure you have got rid of any static on your self = or your tools of course.....(and that power is off)

look for a little trimmer ( plastic circle with a =A0screw driver cross typ= e thread , basically i did this through trial and error...move it a bit to = the left.... stop working on the unit, poiwer it on with an instrument plug= ged in, see if the sound is more or less promounced...if more then move in = the other direction by 10 degrees, try again...more or less...adjust by les= s and less degrees until it goes away. then replace the housing and thats i= t.

usual dont kill yourself caveats apply.



-------------------------------------------------------------= -----------

Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 13:36:44 +0200
Subject: Echoplex plop noise
From: atqsound@gmai= l.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Hello,

I am trying to fix my Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro.

Everytime I loop something with the echoplex there is a "plop" no= ise at the start/end of the loop.
Even when there is no input and it's just recording silence. This happe= ns as well when I overdub.

I already checked this:
- it happens both with LOOP IV and LOOP 3.3
- changing RAM didn't make a difference either

I did some research on the web and found a comment of Matthias Grob to a us= er who had the same problem:
/"If the blopp happens in other situations, too, it might be the DC al= igning, a trimmer, easy to set"/


Does anyone know what he's talking about?
Any advice is welcome.

Thanks and kind regards!


--0015174feba4be1b4404aef3aa2e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 15:52:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18607183478; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:52:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=vs5gqg6xGGkr2qd/xZBkYY7o/+twos6BWTNkDP+lf5o=; b=jxM5wYNgq3lckcg3RAOFD9WOZ5AKwmxeL3DLtiA345sgB3Ms2ran0ctUYJVVgh7GHJ CNYkTw6n8rZ+cqoGQWq3bNIYAG42j51aSuwJGmiBy0Aefhkw8mPWMYH+UbT5x6/u8VIy 2iNVM7UD6f8Sg5MF5WpX6t8v2mUDWYKmX+/HU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:52:16 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: 5/4 challenge From: Boris Plotnikov To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112260 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:52:17 +0000 (UTC) I love playing Take Five using my loop station. -- Thanks, Boris Plotnikov From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 15:57:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A8F3F183475; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:57:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Z8OwBsdDDraytocPyCWwuDIZJRo+zy9joGbdYxvgM9E=; b=CUdEd1gDCkxwxpPHAyUpS+ua4JM0fQsoNTKcGIQZ94RECR2ojASiRIG2Zq4q+e9z14 T5RqrMjAboFdF3NZtRZiJnmMfvzYUEB/0MN94WwBsI4Pm7sQUMOQFKqjUEkwp+oTE2up cTietaxFGd7zn618r5m+OlmLF5U3DjcC8ZvmI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:57:11 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: 5/4 challenge From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf301b64eb0e7a7204aef3d8c1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112261 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:57:12 +0000 (UTC) --20cf301b64eb0e7a7204aef3d8c1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Nice tune ! Talking about playing in 5, here is my "contribution": http://soundcloud.com/eterogeneo/dance-polymetric-piano-counterpoint At the beginning you can recognize 2 marimba parts playing in 5 (same shape, but shifted), interlocking with other patterns of different lenghts (playingin 3 and 4). ...and yes, I love Steve Reich music :-) -fabio www.eterogeneo.com 2011/10/10 Boris Plotnikov > I love playing Take Five using my loop station. > > -- > Thanks, Boris Plotnikov > > --20cf301b64eb0e7a7204aef3d8c1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nice tune !
Talking about playing in 5, here is my "con= tribution":

http://soundcloud.com/eterogeneo= /dance-polymetric-piano-counterpoint

At =A0the beginning you can recognize=A02 marimba parts play= ing in 5 (same shape, but shifted), interlocking with other patterns of dif= ferent lenghts (playingin 3 and 4).

...and yes, I = love Steve Reich music :-)

-fabio



2011/10/10 Boris Plotnikov <ploboris@gmail.com>
I love playing Take Five using my loop stat= ion.

--
Thanks, Boris Plotnikov


--20cf301b64eb0e7a7204aef3d8c1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 16:03:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96D01183479; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 16:03:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=sai5VxSOkEwopTJBH8zwZPKL8IldbjuxtL7BWq7UtLA=; b=uhTr1hnm4XbrPfgeDbR0rqTYyECfZcyXWJAqRjnnSp9VaHPDfgpZhMs9u4VMD1MCHq Q3LxhMs+pZUf/7HuOgccEwdumOEMRKqkp4aP58Tl5OBTofdrW9r+4G7Rc4r4fCDkcqVP TiP5AXVllpIe79X1abUwAQ4+gD9r2/wVQOptQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:03:47 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Easy popular/fun songs? From: Mike Fugazzi To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517740dcaa0ffae04aef3ef6a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112262 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 16:03:48 +0000 (UTC) --001517740dcaa0ffae04aef3ef6a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I would welcome suggestuons for good looper pop music like the Joker or Pumped Up Kicks. I play a bluesy solo show with beatboxng, hummed basslines, and harmonica. But pop rock stuff kills and is a lot of fun. I use a Boomerang III for looping. I am comfortable with looping a full chord progression, but still struggle with adding bridges and choruses that aren't in real time. For example, on the Joker I play the chord progression on harmonica and loop it. During the chorus I play a rhythmic part on harmonica in realtime and use a shaker. Thanks! Sent from my phone, Mike --001517740dcaa0ffae04aef3ef6a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


I would welcome suggestuons for good looper pop music like the Joker or Pum= ped Up Kicks.=A0 I play a bluesy solo show with beatboxng, hummed basslines= , and harmonica. But pop rock stuff kills and is a lot of fun.

I use a Boomerang III for looping.=A0 I am comfortable with looping a fu= ll chord progression, but still struggle with adding bridges and choruses t= hat aren't in real time.

For example, on the Joker I play the chord progression on harmonica and = loop it.=A0 During the chorus I play a rhythmic part on harmonica in realti= me and use a shaker.

Thanks!

Sent from my phone,

Mike

--001517740dcaa0ffae04aef3ef6a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 16:10:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE3B8183464; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 16:10:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 681841031/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.182.251/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.182.251 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkoCANQXk05V0rb7/2dsb2JhbAAMN5kykT0BAQEBAgE4QAYLCyEWDwkDAgECAUUcAYd6p1KRFYdDBJkOjDw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.68,518,1312153200"; d="scan'208";a="681841031" Message-ID: <4E9318ED.3070200@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:10:21 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: beefing up diatonic instruments - was: OT: 5/4 challenge References: <4E92DBF8.3010103@cruzio.com> <4E9305A5.4080504@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4E9305A5.4080504@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112263 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 16:10:12 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Straschill wrote: > here's a > concept to escape the limitations of diatonic tuning. > You need: a looper which has more speed settings than > normal/half/double. > EH SMM w/Hazari SSM tip On my SMM I always keep the preset associated with looper programmed to a fifth up in pitch. Very nice when re-sampling the SMM with another device. (only adds one more sharp to the key though) Using the preset is the only way to make the pitch jump without hearing the intermediate pitches. It's not that easy to get the pitch tuned accuratly, so once you do the preset is a great help. >would expect the LP-1 can do this as well?) Sure, and each track can be shifted differently. Don't think everyone will like the "lo-fi digital" sound though. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 17:09:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE9B6183478; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:09:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 681970908/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.182.251/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.182.251 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkkCAPUlk05V0rb7/2dsb2JhbAAMN5kykT0BAQEBAzhAEQsYCRYPCQMCAQIBRRwBwE6HQwSZDow8 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.68,518,1312153200"; d="scan'208";a="681970908" Message-ID: <4E9326D7.5050101@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:09:43 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex plop noise References: <4E930D0F.2080607@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_ipqGD.A.eOG.PbykOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112264 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:09:35 +0000 (UTC) atq sound wrote: > Okay, thanks Andy and Phil. > Please let me know how to do it, after you've looked it up. That would seem to be the natural order of things :-) here's the button presses to get EDP do the test 1) power up the EDP while holding both Param and Overdub buttons. 2) Press Param button once (or as many times as necessary) in order to illuminate the "Switches" LED. 3) Press "Insert" Having done that the EDP will be producing a noise at the output. By adjusting the internal preset for "DC Offset" get that noise as quiet as possible. Right now I have my EDPs in a rack, so I can't open one up to find where that preset is. Hopefully Phil can help if it isn't obvious. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 17:22:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE82918347A; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:22:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E9329BC.70907@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:22:04 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110920 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rainer Straschill CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: beefing up diatonic instruments References: <4E9305A5.4080504@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4E9305A5.4080504@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-l-1L.A.jiG.EnykOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112265 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:22:12 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Sticking with the C Ionian (major) example, play a melody into the > looper. Then do a varispeed, and get any of the chromatic pitches you > desire...depending on which speed factor you use, more or less of them > (e.g. 3/2 original speed = 5th up = you get an f#, 4/3 original speed > = 4th up = you get a Bb etc.), which you can then use againts the > live-played diatonic instrument. > > Now to wrestle this back on topic regarding odd time signatures: the > loop does not only change pitch, but also tempo. So if your loop > originally had a length of two bars (let's stick with the 5/4 example > - that would be 10 4ths), after shifting it up a 4th, it's now > 10/(4/3)=15/8ths long, but if you played a quarter note before, this > is now a dotted eight. > > So play your original two bar melody into the looper, varispeed it to > 4/3, and continue playing your original melody on your diatonic > instrument - polyrhythm and chromatic tonality from a diatonic > instrument all in one looping box! Very nice idea, Rainer! Another simple solution I use a lot is just using a Digitech Red Whammy or a Boss Intellishifter stomp box pedal set to 1/2 steps and use it judiciously to expand my Diatonic instruments (especially the Strum Stick or Appalachian Mountain Dulcimers) to Chromatic playing. One thing I actually like about the piece I recorded for the L.D. Vol IV comp is that it is constrained to the diatonic intervals but with the pinky slide and bowed banjo and the synthesizer I can bring in accidentals that make it more sophisticated harmonically. I really dug that I made a physical loop of the 5 against 4 toy music box pattern........actually taped into place to play continually as long as I was cranking it. It actually took a lot of discipline to crank it at exactly the same speed for the recording...........thank god for loopers, eh? lol. rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 17:46:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE2F9183464; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:46:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E932F6C.1020506@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:46:20 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110920 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "ANDREA CENTAZZO (Italy)" , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" , "ANDREA CENTAZZO (Italy)" , "NAT GRANT (Australia)" , "ROBERTO ZORZI (Italy)" , "MANDO-MAN (aka Hideki Nakanishi)(Japan)" , STEVE UCELLO , ADDAMANTIUM the PLUMBER , LINDSEY WALKER , LAURIE AMAT , DARREN NELSEN , TIM THOMPSON , SAYAKA YABUKI , TAIT REED , RICK WALKER , MATT DAVIGNON , CYNTHIA WEYUKER , "DISONOVA (Matt Herman)" , TREVOR McLAIN , JACK SCHULTZ , DANIEL ROBBINS , BILL WALKER & NANCY LeVAN 414 Darwin , "PER BOYSEN (Sweden)" , PETE NOVEMBRE , JOHN WHOOLEY , "GEORGINA BRETT (England)" , DANIEL THOMAS , ADRIAN GORMLEY , "SEMIH YANYALI (Turkey)" , "LASSE THORNING (Denmark)" , WAYNE JACKSON , JOSH FRIEDMAN , "MATT TRUMBULL (met at Crepe Place show)" , "ANNE O'ROURKE" , MONZELLE DOZIER , JASON CHASE , MARILYN McNEAL , "PATTY STUCKI (Germany)" , GEORGE DEMAREST , ART SIMON , Rr Duck , STAN CARD , HERMIT CONVENTION aka Craig Prentice Subject: Y2KX+1 Headliner ANDREA CENTAZZO needs a ride from Oakland to Santa Cruz this Saturday Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2w0z3C.A.u_G.G-ykOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112266 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:46:46 +0000 (UTC) Our headliner, the percussionist, Andrea Centazzo is in need of a ride from Oakland to Santa Cruz on Saturday morning or late afternoon (the 15th) for his appearance at the festival later that night. Are there any loopers coming down from the Bay Area who could give him a ride with his equipment (just as much as you can take on an airplane)? We'd be greatly in your debt if you could help out. Please write immediately to "ANDREA CENTAZZO (Italy)" and cc it to me, thanks so much, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 17:58:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DBDC183473; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:58:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=yAWBQaZ2zoZ1VSu70MZ1NITarYxw0UCjDSKc9PLwWkQ=; b=uSnXOiHDvrD+eiBy5gQJyj9GkpM0bks/G41fMfh2I7yiECWVYVd6aRIrwqg81oUUcJ i8VaspuHNAdm3tz6KaqW1xmM702HtCdoM3qqIF9+kFn5ZDQoG5DAF4iSga4m7dbAw6sI WFPWXHhu4urXvpKJKAybXCP605N9a2h/Mbjhc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E932F6C.1020506@cruzio.com> References: <4E932F6C.1020506@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:58:47 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Y2KX+1 Headliner ANDREA CENTAZZO needs a ride from Oakland to Santa Cruz this Saturday From: Matt Davignon To: Rick Walker , "ANDREA CENTAZZO (Italy)" Cc: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" , "NAT GRANT (Australia)" , "ROBERTO ZORZI (Italy)" , "MANDO-MAN (aka Hideki Nakanishi)(Japan)" , STEVE UCELLO , ADDAMANTIUM the PLUMBER , LINDSEY WALKER , LAURIE AMAT , DARREN NELSEN , TIM THOMPSON , SAYAKA YABUKI , TAIT REED , CYNTHIA WEYUKER , "DISONOVA (Matt Herman)" , TREVOR McLAIN , JACK SCHULTZ , DANIEL ROBBINS , "BILL WALKER & NANCY LeVAN 414 Darwin" , "PER BOYSEN (Sweden)" , PETE NOVEMBRE , JOHN WHOOLEY , "GEORGINA BRETT (England)" , DANIEL THOMAS , ADRIAN GORMLEY , "SEMIH YANYALI (Turkey)" , "LASSE THORNING (Denmark)" , WAYNE JACKSON , JOSH FRIEDMAN , "MATT TRUMBULL (met at Crepe Place show)" , "ANNE O'ROURKE" , MONZELLE DOZIER , JASON CHASE , MARILYN McNEAL , "PATTY STUCKI (Germany)" , GEORGE DEMAREST , ART SIMON , Rr Duck , STAN CARD , HERMIT CONVENTION aka Craig Prentice Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364c62cfed233f04aef58a29 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112267 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:58:50 +0000 (UTC) --0016364c62cfed233f04aef58a29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Rick and Andrea, I will be driving down from Oakland to Santa Cruz on Saturday, leaving at about 5:30pm. Does that sound good? Matt On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Our headliner, the percussionist, Andrea Centazzo > is in need of a ride from Oakland to Santa Cruz on > Saturday morning or late afternoon (the 15th) for his > appearance at the festival later that night. > > Are there any loopers coming down from the Bay Area who > could give him a ride with his equipment (just as much as you > can take on an airplane)? > > We'd be greatly in your debt if you could help out. > > Please write immediately to > > "ANDREA CENTAZZO (Italy)" > > > > and cc it to me, > > thanks so much, > > Rick Walker > -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt --0016364c62cfed233f04aef58a29 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Rick and Andrea,

I will be driving down from Oakland to Santa Cr= uz on Saturday, leaving at about 5:30pm. Does that sound good?

Matt<= br>
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Rick Wa= lker <looppool@= cruzio.com> wrote:
Our headliner, = =A0the percussionist, =A0Andrea Centazzo
is in need of a ride from Oakland to Santa Cruz on
Saturday morning or late afternoon (the 15th) for his
appearance at the festival later that night.

Are there any loopers coming down from the Bay Area who
could give him a ride with his equipment (just as much as you
can take on an airplane)?

We'd be greatly in your debt if you could help out.

Please write immediately to

"ANDREA CENTAZZO (Italy)" <andreacentazzo@ictusrecords.com>

and cc it to me, <
looppool@cruzio.com>

thanks so much,

Rick Walker



--
Matt Davignonmattdavignon@g= mail.com
= www.ribosomemusic.com
Podcast! ht= tp://ribosomematt.podomatic.com
Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/riboso= mematt
--0016364c62cfed233f04aef58a29-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 18:05:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F17C183466; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:05:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=2rGYM7lIyfb+qWLaGxowthin9+ir12Ua9hWYGOCLu9I=; b=as4H+Bc/zWV/9auP8E+JazAL/wt++CICV3YQ+9YCqCfKjsUXGwBge+4cWfmgMFpkUR UfQDJSC9GwBwrh/tp1Yyn7fxFQj9G1hEVpobEbMVf4CZKN6Kv/cJiGgi36t9m0cHzHdV aAG3TFLmPebdiY59GJ46BLPTIJZ1U00+OW+WQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ljova.work@gmail.com From: "Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin" Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:05:33 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: uZaYglcUu7cm9luGHA1vfPoWCvs Message-ID: Subject: re: the infinite 5/4 challenge To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec53961d6466a3704aef5a496 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112268 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:05:54 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec53961d6466a3704aef5a496 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin to Loopers-Delight show details 2:03 PM (1 minute ago) If you guys are willing to withstand two pieces without loops, here are two of my little pieces in 5: http://ljova.bandcamp.com/track/plume and http://ljovakontraband.bandcamp.com/track/tango-heavy (or, if you prefer to hear that by the group "Spark", head to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4k7q8jDoD8 ) I actually need to figure out a way of playing "Plume" with loops, but I'm not sure there's a way, short of pre-recording a whole bunch of material. warmly, Ljova -- Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin Web: http://Ljova.com Listen: http://www.Ljova.com/demos Watch: http://Ljova.com/videos IMDb: http://imdb.me/ljova Follow: http://twitter.com/ljovadotcom --bcaec53961d6466a3704aef5a496 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
3D""Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin to Loopers-Delight
show details 2:03 PM (1 mi= nute ago)

If you guys are w= illing to withstand two pieces without loops, here are two of my little pie= ces in 5:
http://= ljova.bandcamp.com/track/plume

and

http://ljovakontraband.bandcamp.com/track/tango-heavy
(or, if you prefer to hear that by the group "Spark", head to htt= p://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dj4k7q8jDoD8 )

I actually need to figure out a way of playing "Plume" with loops= , but=20 I'm not sure there's a way, short of pre-recording a whole bunch of= =20 material.

warmly,
Ljova


--
Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin

Web: http://Ljova.com Listen: http://www= .Ljova.com/demos
Watch: http://Ljova.c= om/videos
IMDb: http://imdb.me/ljo= va
Follow: http:/= /twitter.com/ljovadotcom

--bcaec53961d6466a3704aef5a496-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 18:09:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12AD1183464; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:09:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_e0f1c359-1690-4482-bc81-633b50ecd263_" X-Originating-IP: [212.50.182.121] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: RE: Echoplex plop noise Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:09:35 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4E9326D7.5050101@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4E930D0F.2080607@tiscali.co.uk> ,<4E9326D7.5050101@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2011 18:09:35.0814 (UTC) FILETIME=[C4B7CE60:01CC8777] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112269 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:09:37 +0000 (UTC) --_e0f1c359-1690-4482-bc81-633b50ecd263_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable bottom left with the screen towards you if memorie serves...its the only t= hing with a hex screwdriver head in the whole machine > Date: Mon=2C 10 Oct 2011 18:09:43 +0100 > From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Echoplex plop noise >=20 >=20 >=20 > atq sound wrote: > > Okay=2C thanks Andy and Phil. > > Please let me know how to do it=2C after you've looked it up. >=20 > That would seem to be the natural order of things :-) >=20 > here's the button presses to get EDP do the test >=20 > 1) power up the EDP while holding both Param and Overdub buttons. >=20 > 2) Press Param button once (or as many times as necessary) in order to il= luminate > the "Switches" LED. >=20 > 3) Press "Insert" >=20 > Having done that the EDP will be producing a noise at the output. > By adjusting the internal preset for "DC Offset" get that noise as quiet = as possible. >=20 >=20 > Right now I have my EDPs in a rack=2C so I can't open one up to find wher= e=20 > that preset is. > Hopefully Phil can help if it isn't obvious. >=20 > andy >=20 = --_e0f1c359-1690-4482-bc81-633b50ecd263_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 =3Bbottom left with the screen towards you if memorie serves...its= the only thing with a hex screwdriver head in the whole machine
>=3B Date: Mon=2C 10 Oct 2011 18:09:43 +0100
>=3B From: akbutler@tis= cali.co.uk
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Subj= ect: Re: Echoplex plop noise
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B atq= sound wrote:
>=3B >=3B Okay=2C thanks Andy and Phil.
>=3B >= =3B Please let me know how to do it=2C after you've looked it up.
>=3B=
>=3B That would seem to be the natural order of things :-)
>=3B=
>=3B here's the button presses to get EDP do the test
>=3B
= >=3B 1) power up the EDP while holding both Param and Overdub buttons.>=3B
>=3B 2) Press Param button once (or as many times as necessar= y) in order to illuminate
>=3B the "Switches" LED.
>=3B
>= =3B 3) Press "Insert"
>=3B
>=3B Having done that the EDP will be= producing a noise at the output.
>=3B By adjusting the internal prese= t for "DC Offset" get that noise as quiet as possible.
>=3B
>=3B=
>=3B Right now I have my EDPs in a rack=2C so I can't open one up to= find where
>=3B that preset is.
>=3B Hopefully Phil can help if= it isn't obvious.
>=3B
>=3B andy
>=3B
=
= --_e0f1c359-1690-4482-bc81-633b50ecd263_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 18:16:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE649183489; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:16:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7rEDoFrf7KeB0P73oVj3XeiPRTVNdDyvbmtx0qiupyY=; b=a0/3GpXq0f8FG2lXuoFRZAEtZ+IgmAbF24ESiE1eONRtNpo1aeSVodsWm+8tt1d+1S M3ISWl/MFgG0+jm7nb8pHS0QBjgWItyuvxt6KZzY8Bf7iyToXF4myBkm46OAeSSf5ape m+kmVJvsXrEjfpUOFYU9oxlyV2C7XrYK+ySyE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:16:03 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: the infinite 5/4 challenge From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517448214a7300e04aef5c8b5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112270 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:16:04 +0000 (UTC) --001517448214a7300e04aef5c8b5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 as we're in 5, i might as well post this... loops in the background. programmed the bass and drums myself... http://simeonharris.bandcamp.com/track/the-space-between-breaths also has a rare appearance from my 12 string acoustic....! sim On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin wrote: > Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin to Loopers-Delight > show details 2:03 PM (1 minute ago) > > If you guys are willing to withstand two pieces without loops, here are two > of my little pieces in 5: > http://ljova.bandcamp.com/track/plume > > and > > http://ljovakontraband.bandcamp.com/track/tango-heavy > (or, if you prefer to hear that by the group "Spark", head to > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4k7q8jDoD8 ) > > I actually need to figure out a way of playing "Plume" with loops, but I'm > not sure there's a way, short of pre-recording a whole bunch of material. > > warmly, > Ljova > > > -- > Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin > > Web: http://Ljova.com > Listen: http://www.Ljova.com/demos > Watch: http://Ljova.com/videos > IMDb: http://imdb.me/ljova > Follow: http://twitter.com/ljovadotcom > > --001517448214a7300e04aef5c8b5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable as we're in 5, i might as well post this...

loops in= the background. programmed the bass and drums myself...


also has a rare appearance from my 12 string acoustic..= ..!

sim

On Mon, = Oct 10, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin <= ljova@ljova.com> wrote:
3D""Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin to Loo= pers-Delight
show details 2:= 03 PM (1 minute ago)

If you guys are willing to wit= hstand two pieces without loops, here are two of my little pieces in 5:
http://= ljova.bandcamp.com/track/plume

and

http://ljovakontraband.bandcamp.com/track/tango-heavy
(or, if you prefer to hear that by the group "Spark", head to htt= p://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dj4k7q8jDoD8 )

I actually need to figure out a way of playing "Plume" with loops= , but=20 I'm not sure there's a way, short of pre-recording a whole bunch of= =20 material.

warmly,
Ljova


--
Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin

Web: http://Ljova.com Listen: http://www= .Ljova.com/demos
Watch: http://Ljova.c= om/videos
IMDb: http://imdb.me/ljo= va
Follow: http:/= /twitter.com/ljovadotcom


--001517448214a7300e04aef5c8b5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 18:51:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C41BF183489; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:51:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=nb5djyldH3QAi7VrZ9FalREY3UFLlPbXMGb0g1J2xAo=; b=N20eYGPY0rB7C6xiZaE5uzDG/s12B/EFZGRwIB1HbaFW4kv36neC4arLVqPdVCEOhI hQPtxA7jm8Bd14hqondgeyxbS9xyX+BTrUx+fgSQ77xbMs9J2rl7J2OMdOv0PQkO4t4S 4B/XTLuXWo3vxLwUqMAeOijqqUCHAllWRIRYE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 21:51:14 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: 5/4 challenge From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517740c207c78c504aef6462f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112271 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:51:15 +0000 (UTC) --001517740c207c78c504aef6462f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 all lovely pieces, thanks!!! 2011/10/10 Fabio_A > Nice tune ! > Talking about playing in 5, here is my "contribution": > > http://soundcloud.com/eterogeneo/dance-polymetric-piano-counterpoint > > At the beginning you can recognize 2 marimba parts playing in 5 (same > shape, but shifted), interlocking with other patterns of different lenghts > (playingin 3 and 4). > > ...and yes, I love Steve Reich music :-) > > -fabio > www.eterogeneo.com > > > > 2011/10/10 Boris Plotnikov > >> I love playing Take Five using my loop station. >> >> -- >> Thanks, Boris Plotnikov >> >> > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --001517740c207c78c504aef6462f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable all lovely pieces, thanks!!!

2011/10/10 F= abio_A <eterog= enus@gmail.com>
Nice tune !
Talking about playing in 5, here is my "con= tribution":

http://soundcl= oud.com/eterogeneo/dance-polymetric-piano-counterpoint

At =A0the beginning you can recognize=A02 marimba parts play= ing in 5 (same shape, but shifted), interlocking with other patterns of dif= ferent lenghts (playingin 3 and 4).

...and yes, I = love Steve Reich music :-)

-fabio



2011/10/10 Bori= s Plotnikov <ploboris@gmail.com>
I love playing Take Five using my loop stati= on.

--
Thanks, Boris Plotnikov





--
Petri Lahti= nen

http:= //www.petrilahtinen.com

--001517740c207c78c504aef6462f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 19:04:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54124183478; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:04:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=vFa5BJR6Z5ibKm/InJIOgmFOM7QwQfyTABJwhCn2ZdY=; b=YdFH/7zdjlxglgaOf/V/n27C+i6pgxmryZ69YSEMXqL1+ar8gNHsgigglXxIErEnWv GLzvdyeaFKuO58snSEupWlT3SU7m/LvcbtFNw4c8mxPVhJ38WCpDZOEzcOjJ8AWOVG+m i2aapGnFTUjTXijlbYZPHmyFI0OfLEZozMXCc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 22:04:37 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: 5/4 challenge From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151773d64c591f9d04aef67683 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112272 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:04:38 +0000 (UTC) --00151773d64c591f9d04aef67683 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Good grief! I'm not kidding - I have 55 unread mails on my Gmail right now! :-D -Petri- 2011/10/10 Petri Lahtinen > all lovely pieces, thanks!!! > > > 2011/10/10 Fabio_A > >> Nice tune ! >> Talking about playing in 5, here is my "contribution": >> >> http://soundcloud.com/eterogeneo/dance-polymetric-piano-counterpoint >> >> At the beginning you can recognize 2 marimba parts playing in 5 (same >> shape, but shifted), interlocking with other patterns of different lenghts >> (playingin 3 and 4). >> >> ...and yes, I love Steve Reich music :-) >> >> -fabio >> www.eterogeneo.com >> >> >> >> 2011/10/10 Boris Plotnikov >> >>> I love playing Take Five using my loop station. >>> >>> -- >>> Thanks, Boris Plotnikov >>> >>> >> > > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --00151773d64c591f9d04aef67683 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good grief! I'm not kidding - I have 55 unread mails on my Gmail right = now!

:-D

-Petri-

2011/10/10= Petri Lahtinen <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com>
all lovely pieces, thanks!!!


2011/10/10 Fabio_A <eterogenus@gmail.com>
Nice tune !
Talking about playing in 5, here is my "con= tribution":

http://soundcl= oud.com/eterogeneo/dance-polymetric-piano-counterpoint

At =A0the beginning you can recognize=A02 marimba parts play= ing in 5 (same shape, but shifted), interlocking with other patterns of dif= ferent lenghts (playingin 3 and 4).

...and yes, I = love Steve Reich music :-)

-fabio


2011/10/10 Boris Plotnikov <= span dir=3D"ltr"><ploboris@gmail.com>
I love playing Take Five using my loop stati= on.

--
Thanks, Boris Plotnikov





<= div>



--
Petri Lahti= nen

http:= //www.petrilahtinen.com

--00151773d64c591f9d04aef67683-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 19:30:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 441B7183462; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:30:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_3NYYYmVMuOW+p8fWZ/fKfg)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-10-10_05:2011-10-10,2011-10-10,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1110100227 From: Daniel Thomas Subject: Re: OT: 5/4 challenge Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:30:15 -0400 In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-id: <112D9C7F-AF69-4083-8CA1-84796C50651F@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112273 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:30:20 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_3NYYYmVMuOW+p8fWZ/fKfg) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT And one from from me too-- This live looping improv video has been lying around waiting for me to cut the other camera angle in. I never got around to it. When I saw this thread I just jumped ahead and posted it anyway. Its mostly a shot of my elbow. Tres Sexy. One Kind Favor http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNrCHSAE4uA Daniel On Oct 10, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > all lovely pieces, thanks!!! > > 2011/10/10 Fabio_A > Nice tune ! > Talking about playing in 5, here is my "contribution": > > http://soundcloud.com/eterogeneo/dance-polymetric-piano-counterpoint > > At the beginning you can recognize 2 marimba parts playing in 5 (same shape, but shifted), interlocking with other patterns of different lenghts (playingin 3 and 4). > > ...and yes, I love Steve Reich music :-) > > -fabio > www.eterogeneo.com > > > > 2011/10/10 Boris Plotnikov > I love playing Take Five using my loop station. > > -- > Thanks, Boris Plotnikov > > > > > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > --Boundary_(ID_3NYYYmVMuOW+p8fWZ/fKfg) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable http://www.youtube.c= om/watch?v=3DfNrCHSAE4uA

Daniel 


On Oct 10, 2011, at 2:51 PM, = Petri Lahtinen wrote:

all lovely = pieces, thanks!!!

2011/10/10 Fabio_A = <eterogenus@gmail.com>
Nice tune !
Talking about playing in 5, here is my = "contribution":

http://soundcloud.com/eterogeneo/dance-polymetric-piano-= counterpoint

At  the beginning you can recognize 2 marimba = parts playing in 5 (same shape, but shifted), interlocking with other = patterns of different lenghts (playingin 3 and = 4).

...and yes, I love Steve Reich music = :-)

-fabio



2011/10/10 Boris Plotnikov <ploboris@gmail.com>
I love playing Take = Five using my loop station.

--
Thanks, Boris Plotnikov





--
Petri = Lahtinen

http://www.petrilahtinen.com


= --Boundary_(ID_3NYYYmVMuOW+p8fWZ/fKfg)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 21:11:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B294183464; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 21:11:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=W4jy/aZnXTClLhwv8ZvaNLrBUIGwRHE/U0THta45YXk=; b=FVMt+0KfiYeluy4adRFHHEV+mt1S/BT20ZKi05kw38FJMYflIQ0cDbfobtRXbTvV2F Iv6EqhyEPFWvXGKGi6w0GaseuvDfUfK6ToAcQh0oELrS6iKdQmEeHQ/149c+swD26Uvf igr0jv6XlaaIs2ZPjBe01ZW00Ydius5EeFDVI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <112D9C7F-AF69-4083-8CA1-84796C50651F@mac.com> References: <112D9C7F-AF69-4083-8CA1-84796C50651F@mac.com> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:11:10 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: 5/4 challenge From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f337ce642f104aef83a4a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112274 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 21:11:11 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307f337ce642f104aef83a4a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Daniel that is wonderful! Just fav'd on FB. Really dig the tone on the guitar and intricacy in the manipulated/plucked like treble part going on. Great feel of a great song. jim On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Daniel Thomas wrote= : > And one from from me too-- > This live looping improv video has been lying around waiting for me to cu= t > the other camera angle in. I never got around to it. When I saw this thr= ead > I just jumped Da and posted it anyway. Its mostly a shot of my elbow. T= res > Sexy. > > *One Kind Favor * > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfNrCHSAE4uA > > Daniel > > > On Oct 10, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > > all lovely pieces, thanks!!! > > 2011/10/10 Fabio_A > >> Nice tune ! >> Talking about playing in 5, here is my "contribution": >> >> http://soundcloud.com/eterogeneo/dance-polymetric-piano-counterpoint >> >> At the beginning you can recognize 2 marimba parts playing in 5 (same >> shape, but shifted), interlocking with other patterns of different lengh= ts >> (playingin 3 and 4). >> >> ...and yes, I love Steve Reich music :-) >> >> -fabio >> www.eterogeneo.com >> >> >> >> 2011/10/10 Boris Plotnikov >> >>> I love playing Take Five using my loop station. >>> >>> -- >>> Thanks, Boris Plotnikov >>> >>> >> > > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf307f337ce642f104aef83a4a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Daniel that is wonderful! =A0Just fav'd on FB. =A0Really dig the tone o= n the guitar and intricacy in the manipulated/plucked like treble part goin= g on. =A0Great feel of a great song.

jim

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> wro= te:
And one from from me too-- =A0=A0<= div>This live looping improv video has been lying around waiting for me to = cut the other camera angle in. I never got around to it. =A0When I saw this= thread I just jumped Da and posted it anyway. =A0Its mostly a shot of my e= lbow. =A0Tres Sexy.

One Kind Favor=A0

Daniel=A0


On Oct 10, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote:
all lovely pieces, thanks!!!

2011/10/10 Fabio_A <eterogenus@gmail.com>
Nice tune !
Talking about playing in 5, here is my "con= tribution":

http://soundcl= oud.com/eterogeneo/dance-polymetric-piano-counterpoint

At =A0the beginning you can recognize=A02 marimba parts play= ing in 5 (same shape, but shifted), interlocking with other patterns of dif= ferent lenghts (playingin 3 and 4).

...and yes, I = love Steve Reich music :-)

-fabio


2011/10/10 Boris Plotnikov = <ploboris@gmail.com>
I love playing Take Five using my loop stati= on.

--
Thanks, Boris Plotnikov





--
Petri Lahti= nen

http= ://www.petrilahtinen.com




--
From Brooklyn To Glindran, = a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proce= eds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn= .bandcamp.com.

woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--20cf307f337ce642f104aef83a4a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 10 22:28:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA1E8183464; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 22:28:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mH4V8+mYZ0jmgomzTVKu2YNxDw80D9TnhVfxwkLopbo=; b=OQvfRtjs7y5L78G5Q/e55bLYyIQ3jcw7IMgm+B2NkzrrX1+uzeew5rEGif8IjGOR2C JHSSvfE4VYXni2DFtOP0JHmQOVnvVzsPn5qNUTSnJVqI1r7YKAcgcjgRkmi7LAxbjwod ZG/QVfJWQuLLI/Hi9LzN6QXzGqU5L5H+lvdS0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 00:28:45 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <6uTgEC.A.5jE.fG3kOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112275 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 22:28:47 +0000 (UTC) 10 years ago with had Steve Jobs,Bob Hope and Johny Cash now we have no jobs,no hope and no cash.... RIP Jobs Luis On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 11:13 PM, todd reynolds wrote: > without a doubt the most inspiring RIP post I've read... thanks, Ted. > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 10:52 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn > wrote: >> >> RIP Steve Jobs. Without you our lives would not at all be the same. You >> were one of those rare gifts that providence grants each era, totally >> transforming everything we thought we knew what the future was going to = be >> like. We baby boomers never got our jetpacks, monorails, bubble houses, = or >> robot housemaids. What you gave us was better. You will be missed more t= han >> you will know. >> >> On Oct 5, 2011, at 7:29 PM, doody wrote: >> >> > Would we yet wait for the phrase, "user friendly"? >> > > > > -- > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > =95 The most recent newsletter is here. > =95=A0Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherev= er > music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page. > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > http://toddreynolds.com > http://twitter.com/digifiddler > http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic > http://blog.toddreynolds.com > http://facebook.com/toddreynolds > http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds > > > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 11 00:15:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50288183466; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 00:15:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: To: Subject: LP-2 Mini Looper Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:15:25 -0500 Message-ID: <017201cc87aa$e1939f40$a4baddc0$@michaelplishka.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AcyHqtpF8mHezozzQ6Gk1UPMa5jABA== Content-Language: en-us X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: <-m_QwB.A.1OG.iq4kOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112276 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 00:15:31 +0000 (UTC) Anyone have any ideas on: 1. Release 2. Best price Thanks! Plish michael plishka www.michaelplishka.com www.scribbledmusings.com www.zenstorming.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 11 00:57:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB319183464; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 00:57:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=kqmpHHP2pO3rl2fttGTBQhA0A/ZTV+ZO6jigvKy+Ccc=; b=G9+kV7+/Yo260efBojcMXpUSMfMO+/F/VqhEfBGPby7NUW7novL/nyUGMoRefHSSYZ Mh5vrXcvspCOrg2iikkIbkepo1OIyPQUDdhwfKTClVJ4dFiamgejwlk/txndI3YauG1p YHWa76ILeD9x+A/yVn/a8g49BtXJWHz9Nfu4U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ljova.work@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <2F37130C-B802-4E13-870F-9C52D9EFA96B@charter.net> From: "Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin" Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 20:57:27 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: jihAAkbqQHWnJgaAJ_YccmcMGsA Message-ID: Subject: Re: RIP Steve Jobs... What if he had never been? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec520e4f35d005104aefb65c7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112277 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 00:57:48 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec520e4f35d005104aefb65c7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 but we've still got Love (Courtney... or Quest) -- Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin Web: http://Ljova.com Listen: http://www.Ljova.com/demos Watch: http://Ljova.com/videos IMDb: http://imdb.me/ljova Follow: http://twitter.com/ljovadotcom On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > 10 years ago with had Steve Jobs,Bob Hope and Johny Cash > now we have no jobs,no hope and no cash.... > RIP Jobs > Luis > --bcaec520e4f35d005104aefb65c7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable but we've s= till got Love (Courtney... or Quest)
--
Lev = 9;Ljova' Zhurbin

Web: http://Ljova.com
Listen: http://www= .Ljova.com/demos
Watch: http://Ljova.com/videos
IMDb: http://imdb.me/ljova
Follow: http:/= /twitter.com/ljovadotcom


On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Louie A= ngulo <= louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
10 years ago with had Steve Jobs,Bob Hope and Johny Cash =A0 now we have no jobs,no hope and no cash....
RIP Jobs
Luis

--bcaec520e4f35d005104aefb65c7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 11 01:15:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B536E183466; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 01:15:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E9398C2.1000305@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:15:46 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110920 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mike@michaelplishka.com CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LP-2 Mini Looper References: <017201cc87aa$e1939f40$a4baddc0$@michaelplishka.com> In-Reply-To: <017201cc87aa$e1939f40$a4baddc0$@michaelplishka.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112278 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 01:15:54 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mike@michaelplishka.com wrote: > Anyone have any ideas on: > 1. Release > 2. Best price > I'm thinking within the next four weeks and it is a fixed price at $300.00 available through www.looperlative.com Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 11 01:27:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 61A8C183475; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 01:27:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=e2YafhrRm9UAdvv4UOV2NHx62iO18Rp3RpfJa3pC80g=; b=ZyF6VsYIqsnO4QzamzL/FY4XWyKOIpNVX1qCoCJJqzG0pBAL38e5HezYNdf9ObT1B1 3dhVBsbS6L3/Cyjsz88ugxQIYbqrnmgPuBAtgN7uYoBLoHYDvr2uEeFbHhzD45re3cNd bJJuqDjbtkPFbwwDmMSno6QESbwjDk3f8pREs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <112D9C7F-AF69-4083-8CA1-84796C50651F@mac.com> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 21:27:45 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: 5/4 challenge From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f337c824d7104aefbd001 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112279 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 01:27:46 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307f337c824d7104aefbd001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As echo'd I really dug your 'One Kind Favor' take Daniel. In response to that as sometimes I hear something that I really dig and I react with my spin which may have nothing to do with the piece at all other than the energy of muse that it gave me. This was the case with your piece which I've always loved the trad tune but your spin was cool. This said I've been playing a lot of banjo of late and improvising with it. Sorry there is no looping in this (well maybe some organic repetitive in there) so it's now OT as OT from 5/4 but here is my repose of creative energy from hearing Dan's piece. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/251618/Jim_Goodin_One_Kind_101011.mp3 jim On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Jim Goodin wrote= : > Daniel that is wonderful! Just fav'd on FB. Really dig the tone on the > guitar and intricacy in the manipulated/plucked like treble part going on= . > Great feel of a great song. > > jim > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Daniel Thomas wro= te: > >> And one from from me too-- >> This live looping improv video has been lying around waiting for me to c= ut >> the other camera angle in. I never got around to it. When I saw this th= read >> I just jumped Da and posted it anyway. Its mostly a shot of my elbow. = Tres >> Sexy. >> >> *One Kind Favor * >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfNrCHSAE4uA >> >> Daniel >> >> >> On Oct 10, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: >> >> all lovely pieces, thanks!!! >> >> 2011/10/10 Fabio_A >> >>> Nice tune ! >>> Talking about playing in 5, here is my "contribution": >>> >>> http://soundcloud.com/eterogeneo/dance-polymetric-piano-counterpoint >>> >>> At the beginning you can recognize 2 marimba parts playing in 5 (same >>> shape, but shifted), interlocking with other patterns of different leng= hts >>> (playingin 3 and 4). >>> >>> ...and yes, I love Steve Reich music :-) >>> >>> -fabio >>> www.eterogeneo.com >>> >>> >>> >>> 2011/10/10 Boris Plotnikov >>> >>>> I love playing Take Five using my loop station. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Thanks, Boris Plotnikov >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Petri Lahtinen >> >> http://www.petrilahtinen.com >> >> >> > > > -- > *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodi= n > & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds > > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. > > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf307f337c824d7104aefbd001 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As echo'd I really dug your 'One Kind Favor' take Daniel. =A0In= response to that as sometimes I hear something that I really dig and I rea= ct with my spin which may have nothing to do with the piece at all other th= an the energy of muse that it gave me. =A0This was the case with your piece= which I've always loved the trad tune but your spin was cool.

This said I've been playing a lot of banjo of late and i= mprovising with it. =A0Sorry there is no looping in this (well maybe some o= rganic repetitive in there) so it's now OT as OT from 5/4 but here is m= y repose of creative energy from hearing Dan's piece.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/251618/Jim_Goodin_One_Kind_10101= 1.mp3

jim
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at = 5:11 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Daniel that is wonderful! =A0Just fav'd= on FB. =A0Really dig the tone on the guitar and intricacy in the manipulat= ed/plucked like treble part going on. =A0Great feel of a great song.

jim

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com<= /a>> wrote:
Daniel=A0


On Oct 10, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote:

all lovely pieces, thanks!!!

2011/10/10 Fabio_A <eterogenus@gmail.com>
Nice tune !
Talking about playing in 5, here is my "con= tribution":

http://soundcl= oud.com/eterogeneo/dance-polymetric-piano-counterpoint

At =A0the beginning you can recognize=A02 marimba parts play= ing in 5 (same shape, but shifted), interlocking with other patterns of dif= ferent lenghts (playingin 3 and 4).

...and yes, I = love Steve Reich music :-)

-fabio


2011/10/10 Boris Plotnikov = <ploboris@gmail.com>
I love playing Take Five using my loop stati= on.

--
Thanks, Boris Plotnikov





--
Petri Lahti= nen

http= ://www.petrilahtinen.com





--
F= rom Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin= & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds

from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn= .bandcamp.com.

woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com



--
From Broo= klyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & P= eter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF Int= ernational.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--20cf307f337c824d7104aefbd001-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 11 01:54:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FCE2183464; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 01:54:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=6Tr2vszjiluFZYzUrNMyHmu7jhxH+Zx6nRwukybTd8M=; b=QFJuY75IgIF5vYHp8lvy0BXtZFT15BvLdlbexrY0zrJ+PtSaSXNPJCkF9HRelrX4jo ptFonDDU6rCwDsqJvkKcrdkn66pDka6AbYx3ncvsKJmJcgsYA9ddNb1pOitThHBos8d8 7F9hCK5riiPfirPAcPokzn7hpqNosUxTepUR0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 21:54:07 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: 5/4 challenge From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f337cd8737c04aefc2e42 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112280 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 01:54:09 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307f337cd8737c04aefc2e42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I didn't get this on first listen Petri as being in 5, very smooth in addition to what I said to you earlier.. sorry to contrib something OT and OThread (see below) but really dug the inspiration... On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 6:29 AM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > And it would be even more challenging, if I had actually enclosed the lin= k > :-D > > here is is: > > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen/five-times-stronger-10102011/s-GjMaj > > btw, I shut down my FB-profile and I sincerely hope, everythings not goin= g > around > the LD-facebookpage. I just cant handle the social media, too much fuss. > I'm back at e-mail, phone calls and seeing people live. > I'm all for this e-mail list, at the end of the day, this is the best way > to do this. > > -Petri- > > > 2011/10/10 Petri Lahtinen > >> Recently I made a challenge to myself, could I write something based on = 5 >> time? >> Here are the results. Its gonna end to my EP that I'm releasing by the e= nd >> of this month. >> Not so loopy, but... >> >> -- >> Petri Lahtinen >> >> http://www.petrilahtinen.com >> >> > > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf307f337cd8737c04aefc2e42 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I didn't get this on first listen Petri as being in 5, very smooth in a= ddition to what I said to you earlier.. sorry to contrib something OT and O= Thread (see below) but really dug the inspiration...

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 6:29 AM, Petri Lahtinen <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
And it would be even more challenging, if I had actually enclosed the link = :-D

here is is:

http://soundcloud= .com/petrilahtinen/five-times-stronger-10102011/s-GjMaj

btw, I shut down my FB-profile and I sincerely hope, everythings not go= ing around
the LD-facebookpage. I just cant handle the social media, too= much fuss.
I'm back at e-mail, phone calls and seeing people live. =
I'm all for this e-mail list, at the end of the day, this is the best w= ay to do this.

-Petri-


2011/10/10 Petri Laht= inen <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com>
Recently I made a challenge to myself, could= I write something based on 5 time?
Here are the results. Its gonna end = to my EP that I'm releasing by the end of this month.
Not so loopy, but...

--
Petri Lahtinen

http://www.petrilahtinen.com




--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www= .petrilahtinen.com




--
= From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Go= odin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will bene= fit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--20cf307f337cd8737c04aefc2e42-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 11 02:08:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74135183464; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 02:08:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_NpzWlXv3xUYNC9jiEVfuxg)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-10-10_07:2011-10-10,2011-10-10,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=4 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1110100356 From: Daniel Thomas Subject: Re: OT: 5/4 challenge Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 22:08:48 -0400 In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <112D9C7F-AF69-4083-8CA1-84796C50651F@mac.com> Message-id: <70761AE0-2206-448D-A122-F3EAC6CC92DB@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <8a6MjD.A.WQ.wU6kOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112281 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 02:08:49 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_NpzWlXv3xUYNC9jiEVfuxg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Thank you for listening, Jim. Nice track and god like Banjo sound. It = has the old rootsy fourstring blues banjo quality. =20 Nice mood. > Really dig the tone on the guitar and intricacy in the = manipulated/plucked like treble part going on That treble part is actually played on a kapoed Charango with a lapsteel = bar. I am thinking the Charango has probably never been played as a = lap steel before. If someone know otherwise, please turn me on. Daniel=20 On Oct 10, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Jim Goodin wrote: > As echo'd I really dug your 'One Kind Favor' take Daniel. In response = to that as sometimes I hear something that I really dig and I react with = my spin which may have nothing to do with the piece at all other than = the energy of muse that it gave me. This was the case with your piece = which I've always loved the trad tune but your spin was cool. >=20 > This said I've been playing a lot of banjo of late and improvising = with it. Sorry there is no looping in this (well maybe some organic = repetitive in there) so it's now OT as OT from 5/4 but here is my repose = of creative energy from hearing Dan's piece. >=20 > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/251618/Jim_Goodin_One_Kind_101011.mp3 >=20 > jim > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Jim Goodin = wrote: > Daniel that is wonderful! Just fav'd on FB. Really dig the tone on = the guitar and intricacy in the manipulated/plucked like treble part = going on. Great feel of a great song. >=20 > jim >=20 > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Daniel Thomas = wrote: > And one from from me too-- =20 > This live looping improv video has been lying around waiting for me to = cut the other camera angle in. I never got around to it. When I saw = this thread I just jumped Da and posted it anyway. Its mostly a shot of = my elbow. Tres Sexy. >=20 > One Kind Favor=20 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfNrCHSAE4uA >=20 > Daniel=20 >=20 >=20 > On Oct 10, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: >=20 >> all lovely pieces, thanks!!! >>=20 >> 2011/10/10 Fabio_A >> Nice tune ! >> Talking about playing in 5, here is my "contribution": >>=20 >> http://soundcloud.com/eterogeneo/dance-polymetric-piano-counterpoint >>=20 >> At the beginning you can recognize 2 marimba parts playing in 5 = (same shape, but shifted), interlocking with other patterns of different = lenghts (playingin 3 and 4). >>=20 >> ...and yes, I love Steve Reich music :-) >>=20 >> -fabio >> www.eterogeneo.com >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> 2011/10/10 Boris Plotnikov >> I love playing Take Five using my loop station. >>=20 >> -- >> Thanks, Boris Plotnikov >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> Petri Lahtinen >>=20 >> http://www.petrilahtinen.com >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > =46rom Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim = Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds >=20 > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. = jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. >=20 > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > =46rom Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim = Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. = jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. >=20 > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --Boundary_(ID_NpzWlXv3xUYNC9jiEVfuxg) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Thank = you for listening, Jim.  Nice track and god like Banjo sound. =  It has the old rootsy fourstring blues banjo quality. =  
Nice mood.

Really dig the = tone on the guitar and intricacy in the manipulated/plucked like treble = part going = on

That = treble part is actually played on a kapoed Charango with a lapsteel bar. =   I am thinking the Charango has probably never been played as a = lap steel before.  If someone know otherwise, please turn me = on.

Daniel 
On Oct 10, = 2011, at 9:27 PM, Jim Goodin wrote:

As echo'd = I really dug your 'One Kind Favor' take Daniel.  In response to = that as sometimes I hear something that I really dig and I react with my = spin which may have nothing to do with the piece at all other than the = energy of muse that it gave me.  This was the case with your piece = which I've always loved the trad tune but your spin was cool.

This said I've been playing a lot of banjo of late and = improvising with it.  Sorry there is no looping in this (well maybe = some organic repetitive in there) so it's now OT as OT from 5/4 but here = is my repose of creative energy from hearing Dan's piece.

htt= p://dl.dropbox.com/u/251618/Jim_Goodin_One_Kind_101011.mp3

jim<= br>
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Jim = Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com><= /span> wrote:
Daniel that is wonderful!  Just fav'd on FB.  Really = dig the tone on the guitar and intricacy in the manipulated/plucked like = treble part going on.  Great feel of a great song.

jim

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> = wrote:
And one from = from me too--   
This live looping improv video has = been lying around waiting for me to cut the other camera angle in. I = never got around to it.  When I saw this thread I just jumped Da = and posted it anyway.  Its mostly a shot of my elbow.  Tres = Sexy.
= Daniel 


On Oct 10, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Petri Lahtinen = wrote:

all lovely pieces, = thanks!!!

2011/10/10 Fabio_A <eterogenus@gmail.com>
Nice tune !
Talking about playing in 5, here is my = "contribution":

http://soundcloud.com/eterogeneo/dance-polymetric-piano-= counterpoint

At  the beginning you can recognize 2 marimba = parts playing in 5 (same shape, but shifted), interlocking with other = patterns of different lenghts (playingin 3 and = 4).

...and yes, I love Steve Reich music = :-)

-fabio


2011/10/10 Boris = Plotnikov <ploboris@gmail.com>
I love playing Take = Five using my loop station.

--
Thanks, Boris Plotnikov





--
Petri = Lahtinen

http://www.petrilahtinen.com

=




-- =
=46rom Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording = by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.  Proceeds
=
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.  jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com



--
=46rom = Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn.  Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will = benefit JDRF International.  jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com

= --Boundary_(ID_NpzWlXv3xUYNC9jiEVfuxg)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 11 02:24:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94E80183464; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 02:24:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=RVGBkzuAoov4uSsN8n8pgKgcEVq6HZNdH/fRpTPSAf0=; b=b55S/u8H7PlSeuoQY4TUoZxIt6Na+HVkiXtNMHrll4TDNItK4bcuW0TSOdVeIttLfM 1WbAnicN0Oi1X9vH2PvHKyLn38mtza7p/0BUmu1vW1SPaDUEq2EdwhHoAVWDmZATqcXE WcwyARI3AGRf9e3sWi9v9Ho5Qg9JhTj1E+hrA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <70761AE0-2206-448D-A122-F3EAC6CC92DB@mac.com> References: <112D9C7F-AF69-4083-8CA1-84796C50651F@mac.com> <70761AE0-2206-448D-A122-F3EAC6CC92DB@mac.com> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 22:24:28 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: 5/4 challenge From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f3a3e62f7e504aefc9b11 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112282 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 02:24:29 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307f3a3e62f7e504aefc9b11 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's wild as I almost said it was dulcimer like or something very 'foreign' that you were getting and it was a great contrast Dan to the thic= k more modern electric g sound. You are knighted first lap steel Charango player! (though bet Mr Bill W will comment :) ). Thanks re the banjo think it probably comes from low action on a cheap one as well as my technique is like all my string explorations kind of naive hybrid from my fingerstyle guitar days though I really like claw hammer and appalachian style stuff so that's probably in my psychy as well as Arkansas roots. That song is such a haunting thing to me and I didn't get it till your word= s came in and I went wow... good to be talking, don't think I've ever met you at the loopfests though have heard you several times and just missed you saying hello. Not going to be out this year but bet it's going to be sweet... j On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Daniel Thomas wrot= e: > Thank you for listening, Jim. Nice track and god like Banjo sound. It h= as > the old rootsy fourstring blues banjo quality. > Nice mood. > > Really dig the tone on the guitar and intricacy in the manipulated/plucke= d >> like treble part going on > > > That treble part is actually played on a kapoed Charango with a lapsteel > bar. I am thinking the Charango has probably never been played as a lap > steel before. If someone know otherwise, please turn me on. > > Daniel > On Oct 10, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Jim Goodin wrote: > > As echo'd I really dug your 'One Kind Favor' take Daniel. In response to > that as sometimes I hear something that I really dig and I react with my > spin which may have nothing to do with the piece at all other than the > energy of muse that it gave me. This was the case with your piece which > I've always loved the trad tune but your spin was cool. > > This said I've been playing a lot of banjo of late and improvising with i= t. > Sorry there is no looping in this (well maybe some organic repetitive in > there) so it's now OT as OT from 5/4 but here is my repose of creative > energy from hearing Dan's piece. > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/251618/Jim_Goodin_One_Kind_101011.mp3 > > jim > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Jim Goodin wro= te: > >> Daniel that is wonderful! Just fav'd on FB. Really dig the tone on the >> guitar and intricacy in the manipulated/plucked like treble part going o= n. >> Great feel of a great song. >> >> jim >> >> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Daniel Thomas wr= ote: >> >>> And one from from me too-- >>> This live looping improv video has been lying around waiting for me to >>> cut the other camera angle in. I never got around to it. When I saw th= is >>> thread I just jumped Da and posted it anyway. Its mostly a shot of my >>> elbow. Tres Sexy. >>> >>> *One Kind Favor * >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfNrCHSAE4uA >>> >>> Daniel >>> >>> >>> On Oct 10, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: >>> >>> all lovely pieces, thanks!!! >>> >>> 2011/10/10 Fabio_A >>> >>>> Nice tune ! >>>> Talking about playing in 5, here is my "contribution": >>>> >>>> http://soundcloud.com/eterogeneo/dance-polymetric-piano-counterpoint >>>> >>>> At the beginning you can recognize 2 marimba parts playing in 5 (same >>>> shape, but shifted), interlocking with other patterns of different len= ghts >>>> (playingin 3 and 4). >>>> >>>> ...and yes, I love Steve Reich music :-) >>>> >>>> -fabio >>>> www.eterogeneo.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2011/10/10 Boris Plotnikov >>>> >>>>> I love playing Take Five using my loop station. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Thanks, Boris Plotnikov >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Petri Lahtinen >>> >>> http://www.petrilahtinen.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim >> Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds >> >> from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. >> jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. >> >> woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com >> > > > > -- > *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodi= n > & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. > > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com > > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf307f3a3e62f7e504aefc9b11 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's wild as I almost said it was dulcimer like or something very = 9;foreign' that you were getting and it was a great contrast Dan to the= thick more modern electric g sound. =A0You are knighted first lap steel Ch= arango player! (though bet Mr Bill W will comment :) ).

Thanks re the banjo think it probably comes from low action = on a cheap one as well as my technique is like all my string explorations k= ind of naive hybrid from my fingerstyle guitar days though I really like cl= aw hammer and appalachian style stuff so that's probably in my psychy a= s well as Arkansas roots.

That song is such a haunting thing to me and I didn'= ;t get it till your words came in and I went wow... good to be talking, don= 't think I've ever met you at the loopfests though have heard you s= everal times and just missed you saying hello. =A0Not going to be out this = year but bet it's going to be sweet...

j

On Mon, Oct 10, 201= 1 at 10:08 PM, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> wrote:
Thank you for listening, Jim. =A0Nice t= rack and god like Banjo sound. =A0It has the old rootsy fourstring blues ba= njo quality. =A0
Nice mood.

=
Really dig the tone on the guitar and intricacy in the manipulated/plucked = like treble part going on
<= br>
That treble part is actually played on a kapoed Charang= o with a lapsteel bar. =A0 I am thinking the Charango has probably never be= en played as a lap steel before. =A0If someone know otherwise, please turn = me on.

Daniel=A0
On Oct 10, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Jim Go= odin wrote:

As echo'd I really dug y= our 'One Kind Favor' take Daniel. =A0In response to that as sometim= es I hear something that I really dig and I react with my spin which may ha= ve nothing to do with the piece at all other than the energy of muse that i= t gave me. =A0This was the case with your piece which I've always loved= the trad tune but your spin was cool.

This said I've been playing a lot of banjo of late and i= mprovising with it. =A0Sorry there is no looping in this (well maybe some o= rganic repetitive in there) so it's now OT as OT from 5/4 but here is m= y repose of creative energy from hearing Dan's piece.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/251618/Jim_Goo= din_One_Kind_101011.mp3

jim
On Mon= , Oct 10, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com= > wrote:
Daniel that i= s wonderful! =A0Just fav'd on FB. =A0Really dig the tone on the guitar = and intricacy in the manipulated/plucked like treble part going on. =A0Grea= t feel of a great song.

jim

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com<= /a>> wrote:
Daniel=A0


On Oct 10, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote:

all lovely pieces, thanks!!!

2011/10/10 Fabio_A <eterogenus@gmail.com>
Nice tune !
Talking about playing in 5, here is my "con= tribution":

http://soundcl= oud.com/eterogeneo/dance-polymetric-piano-counterpoint

At =A0the beginning you can recognize=A02 marimba parts play= ing in 5 (same shape, but shifted), interlocking with other patterns of dif= ferent lenghts (playingin 3 and 4).

...and yes, I = love Steve Reich music :-)

-fabio


2011/10/10 Boris Plotnikov = <ploboris@gmail.com>
I love playing Take Five using my loop stati= on.

--
Thanks, Boris Plotnikov





--
Petri Lahti= nen

http= ://www.petrilahtinen.com





--
F= rom Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin= & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds

from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthor= n.bandcamp.com.

woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com



--
From Broo= klyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & P= eter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF Int= ernational.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

wo= odandwiremusic.wordpress.com




--
From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new = World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn= .bandcamp.com.

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--20cf307f3a3e62f7e504aefc9b11-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 11 04:24:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F2B3183464; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 04:24:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=AxzjO7Kwvd1wm6Z6aQJ0hNyUWMPhhUSblh7qjTSyHXM=; b=Lxuxlm7hZnWI1hhpdY7PWPJE+MW2mJEnZ0jB5wGpmce6pC0jdFfyIShi3UTKMdd+mY Uuytt5kmQRY0tmqA7b53vjK8uMQTc5mCB01P7a7fBq5/oNIMXZ3syc6f6k3+3AX0eOvc Eukeju3nKdAFtnJzknAzC552VJd6ypM2UnYwQ= References: <535942.84104.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <535942.84104.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Christopher Darrow Subject: Radio Lab - Show on loops with middle section about a magnetic tape loop dying. Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 00:24:19 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112283 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 04:24:41 +0000 (UTC) It is so odd to me that this has not been posted yet. (Forgive me if I = missed it, but a search of my emails shows no results.) If you've not yet heard the podcast "Radio Lab," it's great. One of the = best out there... it's like This American Life but with a faster pace, = add science, add fantastic audio engineering.=20 Anyhoo, last week's theme was---you guessed it---Loops.=20 In particular (and this is why I post) the middle segment regards some = 25 year old tape loops being transferred to digital but apparently too = late as they began to deteriorate with each pass. What results is the = death of the loop, physically and sonically, as the metallic/magnetic = (whatever) fragments fall as dust to the floor, bit by bit, until the = tape itself is clear rather then brown.=20 The tail goes first until at last you can just barely hear only the = attacks.=20 Thought you might find it interesting too, so I'm posting: = www.radiolab.org Since we're (I'm) on the topic of interesting loop links, if you have = not yet heard of or checked out 9BeetStreatch ( http://www.l=E6yf.com/ ) = it is Beethoven's 9th slowed down to 24 hours without pitch shifting and = it loops every day. So tune in one time of day and it sounds sad (minor = chord) and another happy (major chord) for example.=20 ---Christopher From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 11 10:05:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5EA5183460; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:05:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/64oCoTlPvKZOlmv5ZqP643Q8AOjgaXwu9EDk+GQQbw=; b=tgfGgZrOol1EOy1Z9OvT83dKaUjjE2MH3/A599pG4zNrhzmuaV4bOobQQThl6SZqQZ NZk8KuRRsgTq94wIJpFjcdFY1f7Kejcxl74oes2E28EdPZp+mfpWa6F3jeUS8rBMCf7+ RAkyyx+CTv3galHwA/d0OuHe+AjViUIp1sb4g= Message-ID: <4E9414F0.7070409@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 12:05:36 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Looper's Delight Mailing List Subject: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?preview_for_my_upcoming_album_=22Akust?= =?ISO-8859-15?Q?ik_Kies=3A_Reflexiv_H=F6ren=22?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112284 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:05:41 +0000 (UTC) Hey gang, there's a preview for the upcoming second half of my piano solo double album "Akustik Kies", scheduled for release in November 2011. http://soundcloud.com/moinlabs/ein-strandspaziergang-ohne (The first half, which doesn't contain any looping or other processing, is here: http://moinlabs.de/index.php?id=288) Akustik Kies is a collection of solo piano improvisations which I did as part of my MoinSound Studio Sessions. On the first half (Transitiv Sehen), there's unprocessed piano, the second half is piano plus added processing oddness. The track above, "Ein Strandspaziergang ohne Netzwerk (lang)" (a walk on the beach without networks (long)), starts of with until about 0:30 with som unaccompanied intro, which is then looped, halfspeeded and sent through some surreal reverb. Later (around 1:00), the track sees some short (susrec, susmult) loops, to create some odd groove which you can hear unobstructed around 2:03, on top of which a slow melodic development starts. A repeating cadenza is stated at 4:27, while in the background the loops start to fade. 5:10 sees the dominating motif, a kind of flamenco-inspired figure for the ending of the track. Enjoy! Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 11 10:49:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1912183462; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:49:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=TIEsha25hdtu09UCncsQtwlHrq+5dkf8aUUnvVXp5Qo=; b=IiwtufOE6g5E/RAlvaN+EF7uNFZ2RGbV1jsBmb7PNyq9/ZRJHiNwVGTMelcjgvy6JI teeZ9P1IWe+dolSjFkSEC2roUgWPpd8HZszGl7dtfIsgN7p1r99YdoLoiuyiteQIGrq/ I7Fk/9b40ujFjz+vG8Z1OBavAHj2MS/F3ocCk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <112D9C7F-AF69-4083-8CA1-84796C50651F@mac.com> References: <112D9C7F-AF69-4083-8CA1-84796C50651F@mac.com> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:49:21 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: 5/4 challenge From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517740c20f74af504af03a825 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112285 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:49:22 +0000 (UTC) --001517740c20f74af504af03a825 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 thanks for sharing, Daniel really haunting, beautiful mood in the piece, made me think of death and other mandatory but natural things in life. Really nice one!!!! --001517740c20f74af504af03a825 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 thanks for sharing, Daniel
really haunting, beautiful mood in the piece,
made me think of death and other mandatory but natural things in life.
Really nice one!!!!
--001517740c20f74af504af03a825-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 11 12:07:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC79A18345C; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 12:07:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 12:07:31 UTC Message-ID: <8750c5e40ac666fb521d8eded60d2fee.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 08:00:50 -0400 Subject: Re: OT: 5/4 challenge From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Andr=E9_Donawa=22?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112286 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 12:07:31 +0000 (UTC) Digging all the 5/4 tracks. Here's my first foray into then new frontier. I've got some other times in there, but I can't remember what they are. http://andredonawa.com/audio/ANDRE_DONAWA-Everything.m3u http://islandfunk.com http://www.andredonawa.com http://www.youtube.com/user/AndreDonawa On Mon, October 10, 2011 6:29 am, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > And it would be even more challenging, if I had actually enclosed the link > :-D > > here is is: > > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen/five-times-stronger-10102011/s-GjMaj > > btw, I shut down my FB-profile and I sincerely hope, everythings not going > around > the LD-facebookpage. I just cant handle the social media, too much fuss. > I'm back at e-mail, phone calls and seeing people live. > I'm all for this e-mail list, at the end of the day, this is the best way > to > do this. > > -Petri- > > 2011/10/10 Petri Lahtinen > >> Recently I made a challenge to myself, could I write something based on >> 5 >> time? >> Here are the results. Its gonna end to my EP that I'm releasing by the >> end >> of this month. >> Not so loopy, but... >> >> -- >> Petri Lahtinen >> >> http://www.petrilahtinen.com >> >> > > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > http://islandfunk.com http://www.andredonawa.com http://www.youtube.com/user/AndreDonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 11 14:28:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92BE7183460; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:28:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7+ziJxa7586qzOAPmHHTdS/Ax3bBsT6d6bm24IVHO38=; b=TjpIX7mOMSSQs56aEhjICE29sxB69f4vhSxpGOaumyK8FMimciCZ395Ad1wxBrgfdf ouwnE0sGpjMkFgfyYdC13uFDS1GqR0h9Rsa7jFh4Ou80UQJWWAFTTiIlDSwMd6GUhIGo 4zsqVh4iSeuaAD5bdSoEqkAMMDPoQCBVDTTuM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: danielhlevine@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <535942.84104.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:28:40 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1v4M8IUn9Bavv7NNCmkZE9x1mnA Message-ID: Subject: Re: Radio Lab - Show on loops with middle section about a magnetic tape loop dying. From: daniel To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6de181e559f9104af06b918 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112287 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:28:42 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6de181e559f9104af06b918 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable awesome!!!!!! On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Christopher Darrow w= rote: > > It is so odd to me that this has not been posted yet. (Forgive me if I > missed it, but a search of my emails shows no results.) > > If you've not yet heard the podcast "Radio Lab," it's great. One of the > best out there... it's like This American Life but with a faster pace, ad= d > science, add fantastic audio engineering. > > Anyhoo, last week's theme was---you guessed it---Loops. > > In particular (and this is why I post) the middle segment regards some 25 > year old tape loops being transferred to digital but apparently too late = as > they began to deteriorate with each pass. What results is the death of th= e > loop, physically and sonically, as the metallic/magnetic (whatever) > fragments fall as dust to the floor, bit by bit, until the tape itself is > clear rather then brown. > > The tail goes first until at last you can just barely hear only the > attacks. > > Thought you might find it interesting too, so I'm posting: > www.radiolab.org > > Since we're (I'm) on the topic of interesting loop links, if you have not > yet heard of or checked out 9BeetStreatch ( http://www.l=E6yf.com/) it is Beethoven's 9th slowed down to 24 hours witho= ut pitch shifting and > it loops every day. So tune in one time of day and it sounds sad (minor > chord) and another happy (major chord) for example. > > ---Christopher > > > > --0016e6de181e559f9104af06b918 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable awesome!!!!!!

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:= 24 AM, Christopher Darrow <thedarrow@gmail.com> wrote:

It is so odd to me that this has not been posted yet. (Forgive me if I miss= ed it, but a search of my emails shows no results.)

If you've not yet heard the podcast "Radio Lab," it's gre= at. One of the best out there... it's like This American Life but with = a faster pace, add science, add fantastic audio engineering.

Anyhoo, last week's theme was---you guessed it---Loops.

In particular (and this is why I post) the middle segment regards some 25 y= ear old tape loops being transferred to digital but apparently too late as = they began to deteriorate with each pass. What results is the death of the = loop, physically and sonically, as the metallic/magnetic (whatever) fragmen= ts fall as dust to the floor, bit by bit, until the tape itself is clear ra= ther then brown.

The tail goes first until at last you can just barely hear only the attacks= .

Thought you might find it interesting too, so I'm posting: www.radiolab.org

Since we're (I'm) on the topic of interesting loop links, if you ha= ve not yet heard of or checked out 9BeetStreatch ( http://www.l=E6yf.com/ ) it is Beetho= ven's 9th slowed down to 24 hours without pitch shifting and it loops e= very day. So tune in one time of day and it sounds sad (minor chord) and an= other happy (major chord) for example.

---Christopher




--0016e6de181e559f9104af06b918-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 11 16:03:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A261183460; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:03:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: 217.70.178.142 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter14-d.gandi.net X-Originating-IP: 101.1.164.204 Message-ID: <4E9468CB.6030402@m3ch.net> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 01:03:23 +0900 From: Dust Bunnies User-Agent: Postbox 2.5.2 (Macintosh/20110802) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Radio Lab - Show on loops with middle section about a magnetic tape loop dying. References: <535942.84104.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112288 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:03:47 +0000 (UTC) Christopher Darrow wrote: > > In particular (and this is why I post) the middle segment regards some 25 year old > tape loops being transferred to digital but apparently too late as they began to deteriorate > with each pass. What results is the death of the loop, physically and sonically, as the > metallic/magnetic (whatever) fragments fall as dust to the floor, bit by bit, until the tape > itself is clear rather then brown. Haven't heard the Radio Lab episode, but from the description it sounds like you're talking about William Basinski, "The Disintegration Loops". Beautiful and sublime; IIRC there are actually four complete albums (DL I-IV). "Disintegration Loops III" is one of my favorite "rainy Saturday morning with a cup of tea" disks. Good choice, for both conceptual art and looping! --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 11 16:08:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12F5818345B; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:08:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-10-11_04:2011-10-11,2011-10-11,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1110110163 Subject: Re: OT: 5/4 challenge From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 09:54:18 -0400 Message-id: <26CB7FF6-C9E1-4108-94EA-72DC4B6AEE07@mac.com> References: <112D9C7F-AF69-4083-8CA1-84796C50651F@mac.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <8qYRG.A.IbD.XoGlOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112289 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:08:56 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for listening, Petri, Jim, et al. I have been thinking a lot about death recently. My mom, my uncles, my Mentor Steve J. Death is a good friend. Keeps me honest. Makes every moment as meaningful as its meant to be. Daniel On Oct 11, 2011, at 6:49 AM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > thanks for sharing, Daniel > really haunting, beautiful mood in the piece, > made me think of death and other mandatory but natural things in life. > Really nice one!!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 11 16:21:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE2DF183460; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:21:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xavAaL3ur14p+Uove2qPZx5tX5wUZS2nsQ6H+2gq3Ho=; b=xr4qe2ApdrFqeCdKLdwEeKQnpFSXtwxrdTNakwK01pnmqo2NzBUAH60TRs4KRGiul8 rp7PsXHVIM06dQfWj3KWpy25YVFZgE5nbWDYKgjQStGDVM4ZNhgftADhvuoBa+jsFTQG gzpJ8RwUq+D6fedWES3U2XWaoy5hinIhwLhm4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <26CB7FF6-C9E1-4108-94EA-72DC4B6AEE07@mac.com> References: <112D9C7F-AF69-4083-8CA1-84796C50651F@mac.com> <26CB7FF6-C9E1-4108-94EA-72DC4B6AEE07@mac.com> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 12:21:28 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: 5/4 challenge From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112290 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:21:29 +0000 (UTC) It must be in the water Daniel. Ever since my dad passed in 2002 it has played steadily. Perhaps as you say, the doorprize of life is a 'good friend' in its. reminder to embrace the moments. On 10/11/11, Daniel Thomas wrote: > Thanks for listening, Petri, Jim, et al. > > I have been thinking a lot about death recently. My mom, my uncles, my > Mentor Steve J. Death is a good friend. Keeps me honest. Makes every > moment as meaningful as its meant to be. > > Daniel > On Oct 11, 2011, at 6:49 AM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > >> thanks for sharing, Daniel >> really haunting, beautiful mood in the piece, >> made me think of death and other mandatory but natural things in life. >> Really nice one!!!! > > --=20 Sent from my mobile device *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 11 17:53:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DBF0E18345F; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 17:53:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ZNwTw/eBWxC9XVStZZYqce9TlHrZLqIiskDJMtMp8mI=; b=S9KodBqwMImr88Z2QeMDg1i21aPVh8+b6LZSFZU23BgTy9u0oe8V22xrxXy7W3jk8E 0I1Y3oZZxuZxWILC/kKFgwygne38/khNbAT7zL8lzlyIqiDvRS/4frqnWWCwqsPuRyLv eciBd8loVX0dHAWX53EOo5okOCT6UkYPNn3ZQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:53:24 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: daft question about ableton live From: Jeffrey Collins To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174792c280558104af0995ba Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112291 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 17:53:25 +0000 (UTC) --0015174792c280558104af0995ba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 you can also set it to record from the master by selecting Master instead of Resample. There are a number of tutorials on cool things you can do by utilizing the output of the master to make your track sweeter. I recommend checking out this one.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zefepp5GTjc Cheers. Jeffrey On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Simeon Harris < simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > thanks os! > > :O) > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Os wrote: > > make an audio track > > set its input to 'resampling' > > record enable it & hit record > > > > > > os. > > > > > > On 10 October 2011 13:30, Simeon Harris > wrote: > >> ok, i've skimmed the manual, but i don't think my head is in the right > zone... > >> > >> is it possible to record the main out mix? > >> > >> this probably seems daft, but i'm just not getting it...there's lots > >> of stuff about clips and all that, but i just want to hit record and > >> be able to retrieve a file of what i'm hearing from the main outs... > >> > >> confusedly yours... > >> > >> sim > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > os@collective.co.uk > > http://twitter.com/expertsleepers > > http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ > > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ > > > > > > --0015174792c280558104af0995ba Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable you can also set it to record from the master by selecting Master instead o= f Resample. There are a number of tutorials on cool things you can do by ut= ilizing the output of the master to make your track sweeter. I recommend ch= ecking out this one....
Jeffrey


On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Simeon Harris <simeonhar= ris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
thanks os!

:O)

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Os <os@collective.co.uk> wrote:
> make an audio track
> set its input to 'resampling'
> record enable it & hit record
>
>
> os.
>
>
> On 10 October 2011 13:30, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> ok, i've skimmed the manual, but i don't think my head is = in the right zone...
>>
>> is it possible to record the main out mix?
>>
>> this probably seems daft, but i'm just not getting it...there&= #39;s lots
>> of stuff about clips and all that, but i just want to hit record a= nd
>> be able to retrieve a file of what i'm hearing from the main o= uts...
>>
>> confusedly yours...
>>
>> sim
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> os@collective.co.uk
> http:/= /twitter.com/expertsleepers
> http://w= ww.darkroomtheband.net/
> http:/= /www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/
>
>


--0015174792c280558104af0995ba-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 11 18:13:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70768183461; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 18:13:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=W1dC1c+k3+k6DmIAgYxt5wyIScHBC/pAGYQQzLSvly4=; b=xs2Oj9ybo0cg4bSjoqVYZgbp/VBpbMyga9KGzdXtFO8TajTuRXsG6rkp8i3cC+UneF hQiMdVIQNVzGasJvnn/aqv2SKtt6UH7lf6Q3Wvw0lBJsZVq5uvmLJ7ATCi9WujwPUji+ gQerfNc5Of4zcshP1lpudhqbJc1HC/2HzL+vQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:13:48 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: daft question about ableton live From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112292 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 18:13:50 +0000 (UTC) thanks jeff - what's the difference between recording from the master and resampling? sim On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Jeffrey Collins wrote: > you can also set it to record from the master by selecting Master instead of > Resample. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 11 20:13:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3E74183460; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:13:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E94A34A.6040002@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:12:58 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110920 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christopher Darrow CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Radio Lab - Show on loops with middle section about a magnetic tape loop dying. References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112293 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:13:06 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Christopher Darrow wrote: > > The tail goes first until at last you can just barely hear only the attacks. > > Those disentegrating tapes are really beautiful. They are augmenting with reverb, however. It would be nice to hear what it sounds like without the reverb added. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 11 23:11:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94E2F18345D; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 23:11:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7Hf+6xXHxjD32kaDYSTdddP09prP6GbfrEWebZGrOQM=; b=qjMeFEzD3I3mkZur9pln5LVLO7C4LHfd49YV7tjcY24OUGULlUWn2n9PYmli8zL6J8 xQtJXsAKrZjXH6EENIc0jiTvE3Krb9OcKYcm/s54CFK9bAkyZ93m+ph7ZSbyUk23v/vi BvRy12sjJVD70v0u5lQtQDygDKnda7D3KKgXY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 18:11:53 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: eno interview in TAPE OP 85 (sept/nov 2011) From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=002215b03bd678089404af0e086b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112294 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 23:11:54 +0000 (UTC) --002215b03bd678089404af0e086b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i'm about 1/2 way through the brian eno interview in the new TAPE OP magazine (#85, sept/nov 2011). he is a really interesting guy. i know there's been a lot of talk on here about his work, people pt out articles. but i'm finding this interesting. i may have to investigate him more.....although i did love his last solo album that came out, the one he did w/ some "ambient guitarist" guy.... thought i'd share.... here's a link: http://www.tapeop.com/articles/85/brian-eno/ to the illustrations used in the article, and some extra photos. no web article yet. wonder if they will put it up after issue is out as an archive. don't know. s--- www.soundclick.com/hsacnostetn --002215b03bd678089404af0e086b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i'm about 1/2 way through the brian eno interview in the new TAPE OP ma= gazine (#85, sept/nov 2011).
he is a really interesting guy. i know the= re's been a lot of talk on here about his work, people pt out articles.=
but i'm finding this interesting. i may have to investigate him mo= re.....although i did love his last solo album that
came out, the= one he did w/ some "ambient guitarist" guy....
thought= i'd share....

here's a link:

to the illustrations used in the article, and= some extra photos. no web article yet. wonder if they will put it up after= issue is out as an archive.
don't know.
s---
--002215b03bd678089404af0e086b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 12 00:56:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B67A1183460; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 00:56:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=9yBhq3Yhlgu0X8ESRzpZ7Ut2jb4QHYtDxrFKHp2TWns=; b=VK3hHSzNIldBoPJS4/T3EafNXeC5CH3dsLqGwOueFTTx1/9mrbh0PX6Y33INjkdpGF 6kKw1K5dY2ccD/TyNXFkIc+gwUvx2lRLGrohyN2Wwqbf5l/4lQ8az/9NKA9gpi/k/gEw cMheTDWDeeo5k1jZaYrxtyXI75+/qpKAwPUiE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:56:54 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: daft question about ableton live From: Jeffrey Collins To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747b9aa07bb1604af0f80d3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112295 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 00:56:55 +0000 (UTC) --00151747b9aa07bb1604af0f80d3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i'm not 100% but i think it has something to do with allowing you flexibility in how you use your effects. On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Simeon Harris < simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > thanks jeff - what's the difference between recording from the master > and resampling? > > sim > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Jeffrey Collins > wrote: > > you can also set it to record from the master by selecting Master instead > of > > Resample. > > --00151747b9aa07bb1604af0f80d3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i'm not 100% but i think it has something to do with allowing you=A0fle= xibility=A0in how you use your effects.

O= n Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com= > wrote:
thanks jeff - what's the difference bet= ween recording from the master
and resampling?

sim

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Jeffrey Collins
<jeffreycollins1975@gmai= l.com> wrote:
> you can also set it to record from the master by selecting Master inst= ead of
> Resample.


--00151747b9aa07bb1604af0f80d3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 12 05:59:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 955D218345E; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 05:59:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020208.4E952CDC.000B,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=f7+iIEBXlRg8DgWVVSd61rd0G1hrWSJW6o4ACgxAEYw= c=1 sm=1 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:17 a=SaT-V5p6AAAA:8 a=IiiUAVabh8HmuM4rLXEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=EG5Tyq-5LNaKu5yxFSgA:9 a=AIgSOOKYcwhygQX3FkUA:7 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Clayton Gary Lehmann" To: Subject: Loop a Hang? Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:59:48 -0700 Message-ID: <8890580649A14C1495906E7AEE86A6F5@your0548c161e1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0035_01CC8869.7A031DF0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcyIpCYVewTaoGjIR7KmZovRsxfkAQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112296 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 05:59:57 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01CC8869.7A031DF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello- Anybody (hello Mr. Looppool) tried looping this instrument? http://wiki.ask.com/Hang_(musical_instrument)#Sound_examples G ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01CC8869.7A031DF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_0035_01CC8869.7A031DF0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 12 08:16:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 387A8183460; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 08:16:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-WhiteListed: mail was accepted with no delay X-WhiteListed: mail was accepted with no delay X-Originating-IP: 217.70.178.133 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter3-d.gandi.net X-Originating-IP: 101.1.164.204 Message-ID: <4E954B8D.1020307@m3ch.net> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:10:53 +0900 From: Dust Bunnies User-Agent: Postbox 2.5.2 (Macintosh/20110802) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loop a Hang? References: <8890580649A14C1495906E7AEE86A6F5@your0548c161e1> In-Reply-To: <8890580649A14C1495906E7AEE86A6F5@your0548c161e1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4HR_yC.A.h-B.UzUlOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112297 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 08:16:21 +0000 (UTC) Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote: > > Anybody (hello Mr. Looppool) tried looping this instrument? > > http://wiki.ask.com/Hang_(musical_instrument)#Sound_examples From what I understand, the actual Hang drum is somewhat expensive and slightly difficult to get hold of (it's a handmade quality/boutique instrument, with a waiting list). Although I believe there are supposedly some other manufacturers who make instruments that are *almost* the same thing. FWIW, there's a pretty decent Tonehammer sample library out for the Hang. I was using that library to build one of the tracks that I was going to submit last year for the LD Compilation IV. Then I realized the music I'd put together sounded like "HAPPY CALYPSO MUSIC, MON!' and I hated it. So I shelved that tune. Would love to see what an accomplished percussionist like Mr. Walker could do with one of those, however. --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 12 08:48:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9AF418345E; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 08:48:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=5BnZINKZVMhZ96HqXcx8qhz+cpS4JXtH+uuuOnegGwU=; b=IDucvHrKRcgaGUGbEqvmo7j+SHj3vyDtixFSjOJWtycMRzemseAiXak5+5Zh2MSN0U lgn6FAbY6KijjixALqzCMmylAcramtqPbqd7h+5J1EU5TSWaq+ECCWY4dApxU7ujEZFy V+Xbs9gC1ky02XH4TIxQ4OmhzyLIIJ/SwvB2Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4E954B8D.1020307@m3ch.net> References: <8890580649A14C1495906E7AEE86A6F5@your0548c161e1> <4E954B8D.1020307@m3ch.net> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:48:08 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: VmRUUwfKwCNG1Lrzw_dweD6b1kk Message-ID: Subject: Re: Loop a Hang? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3005128079d64a04af1616ac Resent-Message-ID: <3l8biC.A.SaC.cRVlOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112298 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 08:48:28 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3005128079d64a04af1616ac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Dust Bunnies wrote: > Then I realized the music I'd put together sounded like "HAPPY CALYPSO > MUSIC, MON!' and I hated it. Ha ha CLASSIC!! I have to agree that Steel band sound is pretty terrible aint it... Was always one of the drawbacks of the Notting Hill Carnival... shame cos the IDEA of a hand beaten musical intrument from an oil drum appeals greatly... Now if only Test Dept had made one, or Neubauten, they might make it work! -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --20cf3005128079d64a04af1616ac Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Ha ha CLASS= IC!! I have to agree that Steel band sound is pretty terrible aint it... Wa= s always one of the drawbacks of the Notting Hill Carnival... shame cos the= IDEA of a hand beaten musical intrument from an oil drum appeals greatly..= . Now if only Test Dept had made one, or Neubauten, they might make it work= !



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--20cf3005128079d64a04af1616ac-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 12 09:25:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDBEC183460; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:25:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: 217.70.178.139 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter10-d.gandi.net X-Originating-IP: 101.1.164.204 Message-ID: <4E955CED.1060206@m3ch.net> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 18:25:01 +0900 From: Dust Bunnies User-Agent: Postbox 2.5.2 (Macintosh/20110802) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loop a Hang? References: <8890580649A14C1495906E7AEE86A6F5@your0548c161e1> <4E954B8D.1020307@m3ch.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112299 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:25:24 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Dust Bunnies > wrote: > > Then I realized the music I'd put together sounded like "HAPPY > CALYPSO MUSIC, MON!' and I hated it. > > Ha ha CLASSIC!! I have to agree that Steel band sound is pretty terrible > aint it... Oh, I'm sure there's appeal for some people, but I personally find it just hideous. I'm certain that if I wind up in a personalized hell someday, it'll be filled with steel drummers. And large spiders... Yeeeeuch! ;) Although, there is some pretty cool stuff that's been done for "suspense" or "chase"-style soundtrack work. You can hear it in some of the stock libraries like Heavyocity's Evolve. It seems I'm no good at I that, unfortunately. Every time I try it turns into, "Under da sea, oh under da seeeeea...". > Now if only Test Dept had made one, or > Neubauten, they might make it work! Reminds me of waaaaaay back when I was a rock photographer. One of the coolest shows that I shot was for SPK (Graham Revell's original industrial group; before he got famous for doing movie soundtracks). One of the primary instruments used during the show was a pair of oil drums. And during one of the final numbers Revell starts going at the drums with a handheld electric metal grinder. It was cool enough to watch, because not only did it sound neat but it produced a shower of sparks every time he hit it. Then, about halfway through that number, Revell picks up the drum and holds it high over his head at the edge of the stage. It took about five beats for everybody on the floor of the "pit" to look up at Graham looming over them, and to register what was about to happen. Then people scatter in every direction like kitchen mice when the light's turned on, *just* as he throws the drum down onto the dancefloor -- THOOM! Immediately, he jumps into the pit along with it and, with the grinder, begins going at the drum like a madman. A long stream of sparks shoots out in front of him -- probably 8 or 10 feet long -- and he uses it like a firehose to chase and corral the crowd from one side of the floor around the next. Me? I've got a camera, remember? So it occurs to me that the camera will actually allow some face and eye protection. While the rest of the crowd is fleeing in every direction, I'm actually running(!) in to get as close as possible. Then, he sees what I'm doing and turns the full rain of this thing on me -- showering me with tiny shards of flaming metal like a kid playing with the backyard water tap. It went on like that for the best part of five minutes, with him chasing the crowd, and me off to one side snapping away as fast as I can. I ended up with some minor burns across my neck, hands, and arms, but nothing serious or scarring. And well worth the photos I got & living to tell the tale! :) --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 12 14:19:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E4DD183460; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:19:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=6DnK9SlspjQUafU6MzYmZAt1wpB1MUaNH28Mo/Kfxqk= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:17 a=mWf6_Cw6AAAA:8 a=SaT-V5p6AAAA:8 a=HtzfrSzsXvdbpTNkO8gA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Loop a Hang? From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= In-Reply-To: <8890580649A14C1495906E7AEE86A6F5@your0548c161e1> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 07:19:32 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4CAC7AFA-33EF-41E3-8763-9211A62805A1@charter.net> References: <8890580649A14C1495906E7AEE86A6F5@your0548c161e1> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112300 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:19:34 +0000 (UTC) Looks sort of similar to this too (which I sort of have a hankering = for):=20 On Oct 11, 2011, at 10:59 PM, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote: > Hello=97 > Anybody (hello Mr. Looppool) tried looping this instrument? > http://wiki.ask.com/Hang_(musical_instrument)#Sound_examples > G From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 12 14:27:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0936C183460; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:27:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <8890580649A14C1495906E7AEE86A6F5@your0548c161e1> <4E954B8D.1020307@m3ch.net> <4E955CED.1060206@m3ch.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loop a Hang? In-Reply-To: <4E955CED.1060206@m3ch.net> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: michael klobuchar X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CE57023AEA61E6_13F0_B7E9_webmail-d177.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 34188-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CE57023ADE7B6A-13F0-5662@webmail-d177.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [151.201.115.98] Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:27:39 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:241898224:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29484e95a3db60a5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112301 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:27:40 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CE57023AEA61E6_13F0_B7E9_webmail-d177.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" <> well!.....where are the pics big nut?.....:) =20 ----------MB_8CE57023AEA61E6_13F0_B7E9_webmail-d177.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" <<And well worth the photos I got>>

well!.....where are the pics big nut?.....:)

----------MB_8CE57023AEA61E6_13F0_B7E9_webmail-d177.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 12 16:32:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C2A8183452; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:32:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020208.4E95C11F.00C4,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=E1u1CDwvnKqfC54qdI2pbMkyaueQESI4nkxnfsgqnO8= c=1 sm=1 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=mWf6_Cw6AAAA:8 a=SaT-V5p6AAAA:8 a=HtzfrSzsXvdbpTNkO8gA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Clayton Gary Lehmann" To: References: <8890580649A14C1495906E7AEE86A6F5@your0548c161e1> <4CAC7AFA-33EF-41E3-8763-9211A62805A1@charter.net> Subject: RE: Loop a Hang? Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:32:24 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <4CAC7AFA-33EF-41E3-8763-9211A62805A1@charter.net> Thread-Index: AcyI6fjPCDdffXL7RJCrY1cgHCoyfQAEmS8g X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112302 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:32:33 +0000 (UTC) The Tankdrum and other tongue drums seem to be more steel drum like--not that there's anything wrong with that . . . The hang is Swiss, is Mattias the go to guy for hang looping? Or Claude? G -----Original Message----- From: tEd R KiLLiAn [mailto:tedkillian@charter.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 7:20 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loop a Hang? Looks sort of similar to this too (which I sort of have a hankering for): On Oct 11, 2011, at 10:59 PM, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote: > Hello- > Anybody (hello Mr. Looppool) tried looping this instrument? > http://wiki.ask.com/Hang_(musical_instrument)#Sound_examples > G From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 13 03:21:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4445C18345A; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 03:21:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: 217.70.178.131 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter11-d.gandi.net X-Originating-IP: 101.1.164.204 Message-ID: <4E96590F.8030000@m3ch.net> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:20:47 +0900 From: Dust Bunnies User-Agent: Postbox 2.5.2 (Macintosh/20110802) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loop a Hang? References: <8890580649A14C1495906E7AEE86A6F5@your0548c161e1> <4E954B8D.1020307@m3ch.net> <4E955CED.1060206@m3ch.net> <8CE57023ADE7B6A-13F0-5662@webmail-d177.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CE57023ADE7B6A-13F0-5662@webmail-d177.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112303 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 03:21:09 +0000 (UTC) michael klobuchar wrote: > <> > > well!.....where are the pics big nut?.....:) Hah! A fair request. But I haven't really done any print work since the early 90's... maybe before, even. Besides, all the negs are in a storage shed back in the Windy City (still trying to get all that crap moved over here). I've got a huge box full of negatives from the various shows I shot, so there're a lot of cool images just sitting around. Hopefully, I'll have it all back before the end of next year, and can actually start sharing a lot of that stuff again. For the moment, just hoping the stories are entertaining enough. :) --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 13 04:50:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C07218345E; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 04:50:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A02020A.4E966E0F.010F,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=XdbPDGv6iT76Ln+URUviy1cMTZ8Xsv+LLtHm2N5DBds= c=1 sm=1 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:17 a=EHpVGjJScTaVnru5ZKkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Clayton Gary Lehmann" To: References: <8890580649A14C1495906E7AEE86A6F5@your0548c161e1> <4E954B8D.1020307@m3ch.net> <4E955CED.1060206@m3ch.net> <8CE57023ADE7B6A-13F0-5662@webmail-d177.sysops.aol.com> <4E96590F.8030000@m3ch.net> Subject: RE: Loop a Hang? Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:50:15 -0700 Message-ID: <34813B68ACE74607A7AAE25D91293A04@your0548c161e1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <4E96590F.8030000@m3ch.net> Thread-Index: AcyJVzO7UfY6ROTZRJWcF6c2lFXMwgADFjYQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112304 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 04:50:26 +0000 (UTC) I would settle for the "HAPPY CALYPSO MUSIC", mon . . . From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 13 08:38:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39CA918345E; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 08:38:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=jn3W7d2oRwIWdHunNNuDyi1l9qawULF0HrCcL+j4yOY=; b=dlXgN/3WOJoaVHoREbvLrhT/HvcrIBPArtwaCwrR+GVCNOUjZEn6WAF9I8FdQlRMyw Ves6trgFM8LqjRS2knhW2zew57lWa0U6HmJYjX+BKHXGw6iHN7nvdxWiKn4Kd2rZ0Gl/ bktxlJ9twIsDOdnwPtmauj1n3zrY5cR4/EvrY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 10:38:28 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: the infinite 5/4 challenge From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307d008292ee2304af2a1056 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112305 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 08:38:29 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307d008292ee2304af2a1056 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This is wonderful Simeon!!! cheers Luis On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Simeon Harris < simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > as we're in 5, i might as well post this... > > loops in the background. programmed the bass and drums myself... > > http://simeonharris.bandcamp.com/track/the-space-between-breaths > > also has a rare appearance from my 12 string acoustic....! > > sim > > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin wrote: > >> Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin to Loopers-Delight >> show details 2:03 PM (1 minute ago) >> >> If you guys are willing to withstand two pieces without loops, here are >> two of my little pieces in 5: >> http://ljova.bandcamp.com/track/plume >> >> and >> >> http://ljovakontraband.bandcamp.com/track/tango-heavy >> (or, if you prefer to hear that by the group "Spark", head to >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4k7q8jDoD8 ) >> >> I actually need to figure out a way of playing "Plume" with loops, but I'm >> not sure there's a way, short of pre-recording a whole bunch of material. >> >> warmly, >> Ljova >> >> >> -- >> Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin >> >> Web: http://Ljova.com >> Listen: http://www.Ljova.com/demos >> Watch: http://Ljova.com/videos >> IMDb: http://imdb.me/ljova >> Follow: http://twitter.com/ljovadotcom >> >> > -- www.luis-angulo.com --20cf307d008292ee2304af2a1056 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is wonderful Simeon!!!
cheers
Luis

<= div>

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Sim= eon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
as we're in 5, i might as well post thi= s...

loops in the background. programmed the bass and dr= ums myself...


also has a rare appearance from my 12 string acoustic..= ..!

sim


<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Lev 'Ljova&#= 39; Zhurbin <ljova@ljova.com> wrote:
3D""Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin to Loopers-Delight
show details 2:= 03 PM (1 minute ago)

If you guys are willing to wit= hstand two pieces without loops, here are two of my little pieces in 5:
http://= ljova.bandcamp.com/track/plume

and

http://ljovakontraband.bandcamp.com/track/tango-heavy
(or, if you prefer to hear that by the group "Spark", head to htt= p://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dj4k7q8jDoD8 )

I actually need to figure out a way of playing "Plume" with loops= , but=20 I'm not sure there's a way, short of pre-recording a whole bunch of= =20 material.

warmly,
Ljova


--
Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin

Web: http://Ljova.com Listen: http://www= .Ljova.com/demos
Watch: http://Ljova.c= om/videos
IMDb: http://imdb.me/ljo= va
Follow: http:/= /twitter.com/ljovadotcom





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www.luis-angulo.com
--20cf307d008292ee2304af2a1056-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 13 09:15:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0F5018345F; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 09:15:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jnLq+OV8PYYV2ndTf6eNaKMab5IbgcZetAVe2qrQFng=; b=YdqZm7i9pOgZu5i9L5J+/9+6/yIiw+b38YNYHRt285XzqYAA/tYZqKgKMdQv6SP5+p 2tD2t104DEo+e0IgbAnbnZHlh4teohVDv9MT6DeXIKD52/6rlVvL/H1YL8kasjidvq+6 cDR2VVxiqEJalbb4uewtI9J6amZWdYRcjXTCo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 10:15:30 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: the infinite 5/4 challenge From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d044518b30b104204af2a9585 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112306 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 09:15:31 +0000 (UTC) --f46d044518b30b104204af2a9585 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 thanks luis! On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > This is wonderful Simeon!!! > cheers > Luis > > > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Simeon Harris < > simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> as we're in 5, i might as well post this... >> >> loops in the background. programmed the bass and drums myself... >> >> http://simeonharris.bandcamp.com/track/the-space-between-breaths >> >> also has a rare appearance from my 12 string acoustic....! >> >> sim >> >> >> --f46d044518b30b104204af2a9585 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks luis!

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 9:38= AM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
This is wonderful Simeon!!!
cheers
Luis

<= div>

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Sim= eon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote= :
as we're in 5, i might as well post this= ...

loops in the background. programmed the bass and dru= ms myself...


also has a rare appearance from my 12 string acoustic..= ..!

sim


--f46d044518b30b104204af2a9585-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 13 11:42:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3CDC18345E; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 11:42:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E96CE82.2090106@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 04:41:54 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110920 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: 1st Night of the Y2KX+1 LoopFest Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112307 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 11:42:02 +0000 (UTC) We had a really nice first night of the festival tonight. It was the best attended show we've ever had in San Jose at the Anno Domini Gallery (thanks to a superlative publicity campaign by Steve Uccello). Bill and I started things off and had a really nice set together. Nat Grant said it was really wonderful because we played so effortlessly. Per Boysen came next with his new beautiful, small red Stick. It's the first time I've seen him perform with it and it was a really beautiful and very musical performance. Next up, newcomer, Patty Stucki (playing under the moniker Eela Soley) did a very beautiful set with voice, alto saxophone, silver flute and bamboo flute. She has a very nice combination of darkness with some strong 3rd world (especially middle=eastern) influences melodically. I really enjoyed it. Next Hideki Nakanishi (aka Mandoman) played what was, for me , the most compelling set I've seen him play in his numerous festival appearances. He really mixed it up, playing very rhythmic pieces with ambient pieces and also included some really nice Daxaphone playing as well to take it into an abstract direction. Georgina Brett came next. I really like the direction she is taking, mixing long layered loops of vocal, completely eschewing anything I've heard people do in the A Capella looping world. She's doing fascinating work by singing lines with out any consonants in them and going back in and overdubbing the consonants. It's a really unique approach that fascinates me. Her set, unfortunately, was plagued with feedback though and the sound from the P.A. was continually frustrating to her so she ended early. I felt bad that she had a hard set and promised her that we will set things straight, sonically , when she plays the main festival on Sunday. She is really as talented as all the buzz about her, as well as being a really sweet human being (who treated us to an amazing home made vegetarian soup when we got back from the venue) and I look forward to hearing her have a happier set on Sunday night at 10:00. Nat Grant finished off the evening with a very interesting and evolving set mixing all kinds of interesting percussive textures. Her set was easily the most avant garde of the evening and I, personally, loved it. The synchronicity between what she was doing and the beautiful Loopy Cam work of Maha Taitano really created a great atmosphere. Tim Thompson, Loopy Cam's inventor has graciously taught Maha and I how to use the Loopy Cam and also lent us the high powered computers to project it at the festival. Tim will be doing his own set with his new amazing visual and audio invention, the Space Palette, at 6:00 on Saturday. I walked on stage and played some non-looped Sonica (which is a 60's invention that combines a diatonic touch strip with organ like sounds) to accompany Nat's final minutes of her set. I just love how this artist thinks so it's always a thrill to play with her. At the headliners concert with Andrea Centazzo (Italy) and Matt Davignon, Nat and I will combine the end of her set with the beginning of mine with a couple of improvisations. I'm really looking forward to that (right after Santa Cruz Vice Mayor, Don Lane, presents the "International Live Looping Day" proclamation to the headlining artists. For the first time in many years (due to a miscommunication on my part with the Luggage Store) we actually have a day off tomorrow and then the main festival begins on Friday evening. It's a strong lineup this year and we'll even have a world technology premiere to end Friday evening's concert by the Sennheiser Research Lab of Palo Alto of a Wireless Midi/Microphone Controller used with a portable live looping rig. We came close to showing the LP-2 Mini Looper and Bob Amstadt is actually going to miss the festival (after having provided sound for us tonight) because he's home all weekend assembling LP-2 to begin mailing out. I can't wait to get mine. Okay................the whole house is full of snoring loopers and it's probably time for me to hit the hay! Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 13 13:03:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53FF618345C; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:03:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=6i15dxRGi+6vv0/K8lyaYHHOO2f968i4C5pKgyXMkco=; b=JFb8LjahpNQopK3i7FcjNxgcwTHISX7OIV/junapC0WCtG3jv7vGiXNxYxivZNAWrF crAeLctYD2UbJZBb7KM4u3jm/66EGStFtBVGnlMwPX9xbVcP0s26O/wU5JcCCaBzjQyc 0MCI9E+jmS4AgC7DRQsuCRRh1qZEXHedXYy6c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E96CE82.2090106@cruzio.com> References: <4E96CE82.2090106@cruzio.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 09:02:27 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 1st Night of the Y2KX+1 LoopFest To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174784420f8a9704af2dc3a2 Resent-Message-ID: <4Nse9.A.T_H.NGulOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112308 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:03:09 +0000 (UTC) --0015174784420f8a9704af2dc3a2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 lovely to have the report, Rick! Thanks for churning it out even after a long day... On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > We had a really nice first night of the festival tonight. > > --0015174784420f8a9704af2dc3a2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable lovely to have the report, Rick! Thanks for churning it out even after a lo= ng day...=A0

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 7:41= AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
We had a really nice first night of the fes= tival tonight.




--0015174784420f8a9704af2dc3a2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 13 13:14:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F08718345A; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:14:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=QWA+9D5nXkpCLeb4QgGL/IqnPY5Dbs6df3IhrLcrvLY=; b=qCqzpGdRrqrzCzs0/gZvxtPrmaL5QJRPrbA7At3RnKOkpZn0wGIh9hTNTzUHQZXb4M YhFccPzuJY9/xn3eftAy3b5eQ9AOh9yOlvKzGtcOH5lBuE2NtF5mczU+5XulMueyG75s PszcWdMz7TX6LtYYBBEWaABSQaXeHbEsS8RZ4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 15:14:19 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: the infinite 5/4 challenge From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3040e3be19664504af2deb75 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112309 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:14:20 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3040e3be19664504af2deb75 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 BEAUTIFUL INDEED ! -f 2011/10/13 Simeon Harris > thanks luis! > > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Louie Angulo > wrote: > >> This is wonderful Simeon!!! >> cheers >> Luis >> >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Simeon Harris < >> simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >>> as we're in 5, i might as well post this... >>> >>> loops in the background. programmed the bass and drums myself... >>> >>> http://simeonharris.bandcamp.com/track/the-space-between-breaths >>> >>> also has a rare appearance from my 12 string acoustic....! >>> >>> sim >>> >>> >>> --20cf3040e3be19664504af2deb75 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable BEAUTIFUL INDEED !

-f

= 2011/10/13 Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com>
thanks luis!


On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Louie Angulo <<= a href=3D"mailto:louie.angulo@googlemail.com" target=3D"_blank">louie.angul= o@googlemail.com> wrote:
This is wonderful Simeon!!!
cheers
Luis

<= div>

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Sim= eon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote= :
as we're in 5, i might as well post this= ...

loops in the background. programmed the bass and dru= ms myself...


also has a rare appearance from my 12 string acoustic..= ..!

sim



--20cf3040e3be19664504af2deb75-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 13 15:40:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5DECE18345C; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 15:40:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=59GF4lN2GvdBpFoEHq0+11yjLQiZ5yloW66x2WVvots=; b=x9dn1S91ZGSoeRtMTK/SB4W+NA4vOm+GUKMZxlN5ukHigsAcy521IItFoPcHjXghl9 tlzrerkg6Ekz4yvj2HhiN2RqifbFY+YDzdZ2L3C/W7f6LjuTwcII4wfUkMU6bjKPfIlt 18cqpcC6dslIctMiG61hTMRbCxErpVJFVQsjk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 11:40:15 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [No Looping Content] RIP, Bert Jansch From: Todd Lainhart To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307ac879fdedf804af2ff40c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112310 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 15:40:16 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307ac879fdedf804af2ff40c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm touched to hear that he's had such an impact on other loopers here. I loved Bert's playing, and really miss him. -- Todd On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Louie Angulo w= rote: > Devastating news...one of my acoustic folk idols i remeber listening > to his records in my teen years every night,he has definetly been an > influence and i realized that the piece i wrote recently and posted > here a few days ago echoes him. > I will miss him dearly... > Luis > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Dennis Moser > wrote: > > Rest in peace, Bert Jansch. > > > > Some of you will recognize the name =E2=80=94 > > > > > http://www.holymoly.com/music/video/bert-jansch-dies-aged-67-much-great-g= uitar-player-jimi-hendrix59836 > > > > ~~D. > > > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > > http://audiozoloft.com > > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > > > > > > > -- > www.luis-angulo.com > > --20cf307ac879fdedf804af2ff40c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm touched to hear that he's had such an impact on other loopers h= ere. =C2=A0I loved Bert's playing, and really miss him.

<= div>=C2=A0 -- Todd

On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at= 2:32 AM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
Devastating news...one of my acoustic folk = idols i remeber listening
to his records in my teen years every night,he has definetly been an
influence and i realized that the piece i wrote recently and posted
here a few days ago echoes him.
I will miss him dearly...
Luis





On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:
> Rest in peace, Bert Jansch.
>
> Some of you will recognize the name =E2=80=94
>
> http://www.= holymoly.com/music/video/bert-jansch-dies-aged-67-much-great-guitar-player-= jimi-hendrix59836
>
> ~~D.
>
> http://sou= ndcloud.com/usrsbin
> http://audiozolof= t.com
> http://u= srslashsbin.angrek.com/
>
>



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--20cf307ac879fdedf804af2ff40c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 13 16:51:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6EFF418345C; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:51:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 301 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:51:49 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_273e5346-c942-4539-a4cc-bce53412965a_" X-Originating-IP: [170.104.174.208] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: RE: 1st Night of the Y2KX+1 LoopFest Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 09:46:45 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4E96CE82.2090106@cruzio.com> References: <4E96CE82.2090106@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Oct 2011 16:46:48.0132 (UTC) FILETIME=[B2FCF040:01CC89C7] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112311 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:51:49 +0000 (UTC) --_273e5346-c942-4539-a4cc-bce53412965a_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You're killing me=2C Rick! I wish I was there! Actually=2C I wish I was any= where but at work right now... J.D. =20 > Date: Thu=2C 13 Oct 2011 04:41:54 -0700 > From: looppool@cruzio.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: 1st Night of the Y2KX+1 LoopFest >=20 > We had a really nice first night of the festival tonight. >=20 > It was the best attended show we've ever had in San Jose at the Anno Domi= ni > Gallery (thanks to a superlative publicity campaign by Steve Uccello). >=20 > Bill and I started things off and had a really nice set together. > Nat Grant said it was really wonderful because we played so effortlessly. >=20 > Per Boysen came next with his new beautiful=2C small red Stick. > It's the first time I've seen him perform with it and it was a really=20 > beautiful > and very musical performance. >=20 > Next up=2C newcomer=2C Patty Stucki (playing under the moniker Eela Soley= ) > did a very beautiful set with voice=2C alto saxophone=2C silver flute and= =20 > bamboo > flute. She has a very nice combination of darkness with some strong > 3rd world (especially middle=3Deastern) influences melodically. I really= =20 > enjoyed > it. >=20 > Next Hideki Nakanishi (aka Mandoman) played what was=2C for me =2C the mo= st=20 > compelling > set I've seen him play in his numerous festival appearances. He really=20 > mixed it up=2C > playing very rhythmic pieces with ambient pieces and also included some=20 > really nice > Daxaphone playing as well to take it into an abstract direction. >=20 > Georgina Brett came next. I really like the direction she is taking=2C=20 > mixing long layered > loops of vocal=2C completely eschewing anything I've heard people do in=20 > the A Capella > looping world. She's doing fascinating work by singing lines with out=20 > any consonants > in them and going back in and overdubbing the consonants. It's a really=20 > unique approach > that fascinates me. Her set=2C unfortunately=2C was plagued with feedback= =20 > though and the sound from the P.A. > was continually frustrating to her so she ended early. I felt bad=20 > that she had a hard > set and promised her that we will set things straight=2C sonically =2C wh= en=20 > she plays the > main festival on Sunday. She is really as talented as all the buzz=20 > about her=2C as well > as being a really sweet human being (who treated us to an amazing home=20 > made vegetarian > soup when we got back from the venue) and I look forward > to hearing her have a happier set on Sunday night at 10:00. >=20 > Nat Grant finished off the evening with a very interesting and evolving=20 > set mixing all kinds of interesting > percussive textures. Her set was easily the most avant garde of the=20 > evening and I=2C personally=2C > loved it. The synchronicity between what she was doing and the=20 > beautiful Loopy Cam work > of Maha Taitano really created a great atmosphere. Tim Thompson=2C=20 > Loopy Cam's inventor > has graciously taught Maha and I how to use the Loopy Cam and also lent=20 > us the high powered > computers to project it at the festival. Tim will be doing his own set=20 > with his new amazing visual > and audio invention=2C the Space Palette=2C at 6:00 on Saturday. >=20 > I walked on stage and played some non-looped Sonica (which is a 60's=20 > invention that combines > a diatonic touch strip with organ like sounds) to accompany Nat's final=20 > minutes of her set. > I just love how this artist thinks so it's always a thrill to play with h= er. >=20 > At the headliners concert with Andrea Centazzo (Italy) and Matt=20 > Davignon=2C Nat and I will combine the > end of her set with the beginning of mine with a couple of improvisations= . > I'm really looking forward to that (right after Santa Cruz Vice Mayor=2C= =20 > Don Lane=2C presents the > "International Live Looping Day" proclamation to the headlining artists. >=20 > For the first time in many years (due to a miscommunication on my part=20 > with the Luggage Store) > we actually have a day off tomorrow and then the main festival begins on= =20 > Friday evening. >=20 > It's a strong lineup this year and we'll even have a world technology=20 > premiere to end Friday evening's > concert by the Sennheiser Research Lab of Palo Alto of a Wireless=20 > Midi/Microphone Controller used with a portable live looping rig. >=20 > We came close to showing the LP-2 Mini Looper and Bob Amstadt is=20 > actually going to miss the festival (after having > provided sound for us tonight) because he's home all weekend assembling=20 > LP-2 to begin mailing out. > I can't wait to get mine. >=20 > Okay................the whole house is full of snoring loopers and it's=20 > probably time for me to hit the hay! >=20 > Rick Walker >=20 = --_273e5346-c942-4539-a4cc-bce53412965a_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You're killing me=2C Rick! I wish I was there! Actually=2C I wish I was any= where =3Bbut at work right now...
J.D.
 =3B
>=3B Date: Thu=2C 13 Oct 2011 04:41:54 -0700
>=3B From: looppool@cru= zio.com
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Subject= : 1st Night of the Y2KX+1 LoopFest
>=3B
>=3B We had a really nic= e first night of the festival tonight.
>=3B
>=3B It was the best= attended show we've ever had in San Jose at the Anno Domini
>=3B Gall= ery (thanks to a superlative publicity campaign by Steve Uccello).
>= =3B
>=3B Bill and I started things off and had a really nice set toge= ther.
>=3B Nat Grant said it was really wonderful because we played so= effortlessly.
>=3B
>=3B Per Boysen came next with his new beaut= iful=2C small red Stick.
>=3B It's the first time I've seen him perfor= m with it and it was a really
>=3B beautiful
>=3B and very music= al performance.
>=3B
>=3B Next up=2C newcomer=2C Patty Stucki (p= laying under the moniker Eela Soley)
>=3B did a very beautiful set wit= h voice=2C alto saxophone=2C silver flute and
>=3B bamboo
>=3B f= lute. She has a very nice combination of darkness with some strong
>= =3B 3rd world (especially middle=3Deastern) influences melodically. I reall= y
>=3B enjoyed
>=3B it.
>=3B
>=3B Next Hideki Nakanis= hi (aka Mandoman) played what was=2C for me =2C the most
>=3B compell= ing
>=3B set I've seen him play in his numerous festival appearances. = He really
>=3B mixed it up=2C
>=3B playing very rhythmic pieces = with ambient pieces and also included some
>=3B really nice
>=3B= Daxaphone playing as well to take it into an abstract direction.
>=3B=
>=3B Georgina Brett came next. I really like the direction she is ta= king=2C
>=3B mixing long layered
>=3B loops of vocal=2C complete= ly eschewing anything I've heard people do in
>=3B the A Capella
&= gt=3B looping world. She's doing fascinating work by singing lines with out=
>=3B any consonants
>=3B in them and going back in and overdubb= ing the consonants. It's a really
>=3B unique approach
>=3B that= fascinates me. Her set=2C unfortunately=2C was plagued with feedback
&= gt=3B though and the sound from the P.A.
>=3B was continually frustrat= ing to her so she ended early. I felt bad
>=3B that she had a hard>=3B set and promised her that we will set things straight=2C sonically = =2C when
>=3B she plays the
>=3B main festival on Sunday. She is= really as talented as all the buzz
>=3B about her=2C as well
>= =3B as being a really sweet human being (who treated us to an amazing home =
>=3B made vegetarian
>=3B soup when we got back from the venue) = and I look forward
>=3B to hearing her have a happier set on Sunday ni= ght at 10:00.
>=3B
>=3B Nat Grant finished off the evening with = a very interesting and evolving
>=3B set mixing all kinds of interest= ing
>=3B percussive textures. Her set was easily the most avant garde = of the
>=3B evening and I=2C personally=2C
>=3B loved it. The sy= nchronicity between what she was doing and the
>=3B beautiful Loopy C= am work
>=3B of Maha Taitano really created a great atmosphere. Tim Th= ompson=2C
>=3B Loopy Cam's inventor
>=3B has graciously taught M= aha and I how to use the Loopy Cam and also lent
>=3B us the high pow= ered
>=3B computers to project it at the festival. Tim will be doing h= is own set
>=3B with his new amazing visual
>=3B and audio inven= tion=2C the Space Palette=2C at 6:00 on Saturday.
>=3B
>=3B I wa= lked on stage and played some non-looped Sonica (which is a 60's
>=3B= invention that combines
>=3B a diatonic touch strip with organ like s= ounds) to accompany Nat's final
>=3B minutes of her set.
>=3B I = just love how this artist thinks so it's always a thrill to play with her.<= BR>>=3B
>=3B At the headliners concert with Andrea Centazzo (Italy)= and Matt
>=3B Davignon=2C Nat and I will combine the
>=3B end o= f her set with the beginning of mine with a couple of improvisations.
&g= t=3B I'm really looking forward to that (right after Santa Cruz Vice Mayor= =2C
>=3B Don Lane=2C presents the
>=3B "International Live Loopi= ng Day" proclamation to the headlining artists.
>=3B
>=3B For th= e first time in many years (due to a miscommunication on my part
>=3B= with the Luggage Store)
>=3B we actually have a day off tomorrow and = then the main festival begins on
>=3B Friday evening.
>=3B
&= gt=3B It's a strong lineup this year and we'll even have a world technology=
>=3B premiere to end Friday evening's
>=3B concert by the Sennh= eiser Research Lab of Palo Alto of a Wireless
>=3B Midi/Microphone Co= ntroller used with a portable live looping rig.
>=3B
>=3B We cam= e close to showing the LP-2 Mini Looper and Bob Amstadt is
>=3B actua= lly going to miss the festival (after having
>=3B provided sound for u= s tonight) because he's home all weekend assembling
>=3B LP-2 to begi= n mailing out.
>=3B I can't wait to get mine.
>=3B
>=3B Oka= y................the whole house is full of snoring loopers and it's
&g= t=3B probably time for me to hit the hay!
>=3B
>=3B Rick Walker<= BR>>=3B
= --_273e5346-c942-4539-a4cc-bce53412965a_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 13 17:48:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C49E1183454; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:48:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+4btVKWMj1RiVqHT03Mblj3MSyLhebjsnE9SOturoP0=; b=lPnDweJ/uB+mxtHEnCFVXrqac666ohHTxLpCxd4Df6y8RpJUiHxBN/wBmSO7mffbOA h2KqA0RT1hxWmMP9ntNNTgk4QOJyT94j+Yj81OiKkC5EhqoUyIJIEy9hTzHKGMdtMPPJ xKh2tlA5Ze7DUWzQHlEeSGnJZ05/lb8tjSTYc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:48:12 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: FS/Spam: Moog Midi Murf / Boss Slicer From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174be34e959d3204af31be6a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112312 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:48:13 +0000 (UTC) --0015174be34e959d3204af31be6a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sorry to spam, but I imagine some folks would be interested in these rhythmic pieces. Moog Midi Murf: $375 ship/pp. Has power adapter, no manual. VERY good condition. Boss Slicer: $135 ship/pp. No adapter, typical boss 9v center negative. Good condition. I have a ton of references on the gear page and ebay. Let me know! Shipping from Chicago, IL. Prefer to keep it continental U.S. --0015174be34e959d3204af31be6a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry to spam, but I imagine some folks would be interested in these rhythm= ic pieces.

Moog Midi Murf: $375 ship/pp. Has power adapt= er, no manual. VERY good condition.
Boss Slicer: $135 ship/pp. No= adapter, typical boss 9v center negative. Good condition.

I have a ton of references on the gear page and ebay. L= et me know!

Shipping from Chicago, IL. Prefer to k= eep it continental U.S.=A0
--0015174be34e959d3204af31be6a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 13 21:53:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7497E18345B; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 21:53:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E975DBB.9080201@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:52:59 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112313 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 21:53:13 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on Steve Roach. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Live at Grace Cathedral" disk 2 by Steve Roach on Timeroom Editions. Details are at the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#oct Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org/listen on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 13 21:57:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF53118345C; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 21:57:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E975EDE.2060007@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:57:50 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110920 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: the infinite 5/4 challenge References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8UvwIC.A.RAB.m71lOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112314 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 21:57:58 +0000 (UTC) I've been putting off, as a complete guilty pleasure, listening to everything in this delightful thread because the Loopfestival gets very all consuming as it begins, but I snuck a listen to this track this morning: Wow, really nice work, Simeon! It's also a really cool and clever subdivision of the slower quarter note in 5/4. Also, as a drummer, I can't get a little snooty about guitarists programming drum machines (just because they so frequently don't sound 'realistic' to my ears but this is a really great, natural feeling use of programmed drums. Listening to it, I was jealous of the drummer who got to track it with you until I read later that you had programmed it. Not that it means a hill of beans as they say, but this drummer says YEAH!!! Nice work! rick walker ps now when will you come be featured in California some time soon? There's a juicy festival spot just waiting for you if you ever decide to cross that little pond twixt us. > > > http://simeonharris.bandcamp.com/track/the-space-between-breaths > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 13 22:10:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6DD5A18345C; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:10:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E9761C5.7050604@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 15:10:13 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110920 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Interesting critique of Wednesdays' Y2KX+1 show Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_Hmz1.A.HSB.MH2lOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112315 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:10:20 +0000 (UTC) I got an email from someone who attended last night's show in San Jose and I thought it was fascinating, and although I found his praise of Bill's and my set flattering, I did not agree in the slightest with the 'take' This person wrote: "I thought Wednesday's show was heavy on the avant garde. Although, your performance was outstanding! Might one of the three Santa Cruz days feature more "conventional" music? Anyone else who was there, care to weigh in on this comment. Of all the sets, I only thought Nat Grant's was experimental and non-prorgammatic but maybe I'm getting used to going to looping festivals. Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 13 22:18:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EEE26183462; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:18:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=iRKGE/F70HNMEOXrlTAgrs/GIIzXy6W4WWDWFyZTUqw=; b=CbhHUHTMPfhWwb5m6WXq5PLuZbOdv99pmcXsgv65o7+jLf/OlF43fkaxyAbfliO/Aw mjPMfXK5uO4wBRcsgduDTvIY7wG7Gf7sIhGGgaOi737MgiVBz+XLIaMY7514RQW4v50m +bepKcBLAtKgLEvQOtMOkQA3YuLIFM2h3YKrg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E9761C5.7050604@cruzio.com> References: <4E9761C5.7050604@cruzio.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:17:35 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Interesting critique of Wednesdays' Y2KX+1 show To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c189a56256a04af35846b Resent-Message-ID: <-v5qED.A.1kB.wO2lOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112316 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:18:24 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c189a56256a04af35846b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable lol. Amazing. I've lost ALL perspective on what's avant-garde and what's 'conventional'. It all sounds joyous to me, all part of one continuum. Unless it seems inauthentic, insincere, less than thoughtful and not taken seriously in preparation or execution. That's when my labels pop up in my head. Amazing how different our perspectives are as humans. Of course, bring an African traditional musician to that same concert, and get a completely different take on it... On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > I got an email from someone who attended last night's show in San Jose > and I thought it was fascinating, and although I found his praise of Bill= 's > and my > set flattering, I did not agree in the slightest with the 'take' > > This person wrote: > "I thought Wednesday's show was heavy on the avant garde. Although, your > performance was outstanding! > > Might one of the three Santa Cruz days feature more "conventional" music? > > > > Anyone else who was there, care to weigh in on this comment. > Of all the sets, I only thought Nat Grant's was experimental and > non-prorgammatic > but maybe I'm getting used to going to looping festivals. > > Rick Walker > > > > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 The most recent newsletter is here. =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page . =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --0015174c189a56256a04af35846b Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable lol. =A0Amazing. =A0I've lost ALL perspective on what's avant-garde= and what's 'conventional'. =A0It all sounds joyous to me, all = part of one continuum. =A0Unless it seems inauthentic, insincere, less than= thoughtful and not taken seriously in preparation or execution. =A0That= 9;s when my labels pop up in my head. =A0Amazing how different our perspect= ives are as humans. Of course, bring an African traditional musician to tha= t same concert, and get a completely different take on it...=A0

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Rick Walker= <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
I got an email from someone who attended last night's show in San Jose<= br> and I thought it was fascinating, and although I found his praise of Bill&#= 39;s and my
set flattering, =A0I did not agree in the slightest with the 'take'=

This person wrote:
"I thought Wednesday's show was heavy on the avant garde. =A0Altho= ugh, your performance was outstanding!

Might one of the three Santa Cruz days feature more "conventional"= ; music?



Anyone else who was there, =A0care to weigh in on this comment.
Of all the sets, I only thought Nat Grant's was experimental and non-pr= orgammatic
but maybe I'm getting used to going to looping festivals.

Rick Walker







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--0015174c189a56256a04af35846b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 13 23:17:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F417118345A; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:17:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:17:04 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kevinkissinger.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=BdWhxs/LzHnkQjc2GdsKKCNSKSIPAjxHUIHJhzDW4n4=; b=LFpJiApOblc7w84r0wYAnu6thJIH8JyKdA6MvTeLDldmpVz5/njoVt53MrazlIZ4Iau2GzXauBQ98Tmpz5uzVkzKrQfTMuLpI1AfPitVU3NuZwrKs2lTx4rfMaIY8jEL; Message-ID: <20111013181024.11381rv3s1kf56n4@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:10:24 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Interesting critique of Wednesdays' Y2KX+1 show References: <4E9761C5.7050604@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4E9761C5.7050604@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3.9) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112317 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:17:04 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Rick Walker : > I got an email from someone who attended last night's show in San Jose > and I thought it was fascinating, and although I found his praise of > Bill's and my > set flattering, I did not agree in the slightest with the 'take' > > This person wrote: > "I thought Wednesday's show was heavy on the avant garde. Although, > your performance was outstanding! > > Might one of the three Santa Cruz days feature more "conventional" music? > > > > Anyone else who was there, care to weigh in on this comment. > This year I am unable to attend though I've participated for the last four years. My thought is that the Y2K loopfest attracts performers from all over the world. Why would someone expend the time and expense to attend a festival of "conventional" music far away when "conventional" music is available just about everywhere? I don't really consider my music to be "avante-garde" however it is unconventional. A festival of "conventional" music would not be interested in me, anyway. With you in spirit, Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 14 05:57:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A43CC18345E; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 05:57:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: Subject: FW: wery interesting guestion ! Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 07:57:02 +0200 Message-ID: <70215E754BE640CCB8F4CF5AFFC5FE28@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003C_01CC8A46.DBBE5710" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcyJw+fzjtAnSQBNRnKo4WhrUR2qUQAcS/og X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112318 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 05:57:06 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01CC8A46.DBBE5710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pavel (not a looper, not even a musician I think) lives in Khabarovsk in the far east of Russia, near the Chinese border. I know him (only online of course) because he shares my love for retrofuturistic images. He wrote me this funny email this morning because he is looking for some sort of disco song. Does his description ring a bell for you? Help much appreciated. -Michael Peters At me an interesting question. I search for one song. Style evrodance. The afroamerican sings. Not Sonique, no! In the song beginning plays The electronic piano, keys quickly play. Then plays ensemble of electronic violins. A song electronic, dancing. The afroamerican sings a powerful voice: Looo oooove!... You beee o-o... Looo oooo ve... You bee o... I badly remember the Refrain. Like so: You bee ooo. O-o! Iii in my go home! Iii in my go home!..... Looo oooove! (play piano) You beee o-o... Looo oooove! You bee o-o... In the end of a song plays only one electronic piano. I asked on sites of search of songs, searched in YouTube, I was helped by people. But nobody remembers this song! I remember, it was called, is similar as - Discoteca fit for fun. And can be - Feat For Fun. Year - 2002-2005. I don't remember neither names, nor singers. Very much I want to find this song. Ask your acquaintances, - can, they know? ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01CC8A46.DBBE5710 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Pavel (not a looper, not even a musician I = think) lives=20 in Khabarovsk in the far east of Russia, near the Chinese border. I know = him=20 (only online of course) because he shares my love for = retrofuturistic=20 images. He wrote me this funny email this morning because he is looking = for some=20 sort of disco song. Does his description ring a bell for you? Help much=20 appreciated.
 
-Michael Peters
 
At me an interesting question. I search for one song. Style = evrodance. The=20 afroamerican sings. Not Sonique, no! In the song beginning plays  = The=20 electronic piano, keys quickly play. Then plays ensemble of electronic = violins.=20 A song electronic, dancing.  The afroamerican sings a powerful = voice: Looo=20 oooove!... You beee o-o... Looo oooo ve... You bee o... I = badly=20 remember the Refrain. Like so:   You bee ooo. O-o! Iii in my go = home! Iii=20 in my go home!..... Looo oooove! (play piano) You beee o-o... Looo = oooove!=20 You bee o-o...
In the end of a song plays only one electronic = piano.
I=20 asked on sites of search of songs, searched in YouTube, I was helped by = people.=20 But nobody remembers this song!
I remember, it was called, is similar = as -=20 Discoteca fit for fun. And can be - Feat For Fun.
Year - 2002-2005. I = don't=20 remember neither names, nor singers. Very much I want to find this = song.
Ask=20 your acquaintances, - can, they=20 know?

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------=_NextPart_000_003C_01CC8A46.DBBE5710-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 14 07:27:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5941D18345E; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 07:27:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YBeU0EsNrKDjFA9e1Hyso7TTYHJeV0RpUtSQVNwKfnQ=; b=tKuZxOvXOplPcWnVofJpCYtU++mu2L/0tbi1Ub7RvkiKtgV5JNypmqjYHSpEzUJYoj tadRDG74B0fYnojudwVRx8uzG6NWD502Q6jSq+mwfbRmTLjDPJ/ZxVJoJdLIWBUFLlJo dQe+0in/Jd20o8r27bSa3xhazibTPdVBJ8i7g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:27:51 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [No Looping Content] RIP, Bert Jansch From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112319 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 07:27:52 +0000 (UTC) Cheers Todd, here is the tune i mean i recently recorded warning: no looping content;-) http://soundcloud.com/luis-angulo/el-ni-o Luis On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Todd Lainhart wrote: > I'm touched to hear that he's had such an impact on other loopers here. = =A0I > loved Bert's playing, and really miss him. > =A0 -- Todd > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> >> Devastating news...one of my acoustic folk idols i remeber listening >> to his records in my teen years every night,he has definetly been an >> influence and i realized that the piece i wrote recently and posted >> here a few days ago echoes him. >> I will miss him dearly... >> Luis >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Dennis Moser >> wrote: >> > Rest in peace, Bert Jansch. >> > >> > Some of you will recognize the name =97 >> > >> > >> > http://www.holymoly.com/music/video/bert-jansch-dies-aged-67-much-grea= t-guitar-player-jimi-hendrix59836 >> > >> > ~~D. >> > >> > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin >> > http://audiozoloft.com >> > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> www.luis-angulo.com >> > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 14 08:34:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 06AF018345C; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 08:34:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KxclhPKNY8v59usBqrZOSll389VZqr/enQwPnL9Hywc=; b=nTZeNdECw/Oa/0A1le+TdN0tEyIyfjMbVle8U7IeslPI2vCdZIvxmS+e2KuriIVQR+ 2v+5W5nX/mX2jNvUpaMLcW9SFqYzQqL0LOGzb7rH785rIZTGZd4qCzcCkUJn9jLGoV0b vsrouZvtMAhVr3TazrMcphNI6x9bGEoXVT0YE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <70215E754BE640CCB8F4CF5AFFC5FE28@mpeserver> References: <70215E754BE640CCB8F4CF5AFFC5FE28@mpeserver> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:34:36 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FW: wery interesting guestion ! From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112320 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 08:34:36 +0000 (UTC) no idea what the song is, but i love his description! On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 6:57 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > Pavel (not a looper, not even a musician I think) lives in Khabarovsk in = the > far east of Russia, near the Chinese border. I know him (only online of > course) because=A0he shares my love for retrofuturistic images. He wrote = me > this funny email this morning because he is looking for some sort of disc= o > song. Does his description ring a bell for you? Help much appreciated. > > -Michael Peters > > At me an interesting question. I search for one song. Style evrodance. Th= e > afroamerican sings. Not Sonique, no! In the song beginning plays=A0 The > electronic piano, keys quickly play. Then plays ensemble of electronic > violins. A song electronic, dancing.=A0 The afroamerican sings a powerful > voice: Looo oooove!... You beee o-o...=A0Looo oooo ve... You bee o...=A0I= badly > remember the Refrain. Like so:=A0 =A0You bee ooo. O-o! Iii in my go home!= Iii in > my go home!.....=A0Looo oooove! (play piano) You beee o-o... Looo oooove!= You > bee o-o... > In the end of a song plays only one electronic piano. > I asked on sites of search of songs, searched in YouTube, I was helped by > people. But nobody remembers this song! > I remember, it was called, is similar as - Discoteca fit for fun. And can= be > - Feat For Fun. > Year - 2002-2005. I don't remember neither names, nor singers. Very much = I > want to find this song. > Ask your acquaintances, - can, they know? > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 14 08:42:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E61F183460; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 08:42:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3A457mqvYFEisjitzr4C6f1HltKlwnCQeARc+sg8Wr4=; b=iwQQgbO02rlETtZvvGTdfT5gG7fRLjx/rRr/vJd4cdXiRhsfHvXzfzbuwR0TYyEPUY 6psSH7I6TIgRszIJ21HcUofxPRZmOWQ+LqgTTfFTMoqmCjd7hw4tsfkzTtlamFWCwU5O TOfEvQhF0iqfkZtCenUtqEOi5R1YnClu3avmU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4E975EDE.2060007@cruzio.com> References: <4E975EDE.2060007@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:42:32 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: the infinite 5/4 challenge From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112321 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 08:42:33 +0000 (UTC) i'd love to cross the pond, rick...but time and money prevent me doing so at the moment. maybe when i'm rich and famous and living the lifestyle of the genius billionaire playboy philanthropist...no wait...that's tony stark isn't it...still...i got the suit... anyway, thanks for commenting...it's always nice to get compliments from drummers about my drum programming...they're a tough crowd! :O) sim On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > I've been putting off, as a complete guilty pleasure, =A0listening to > everything in this delightful thread > because the Loopfestival gets very all consuming as it begins, =A0 but I = snuck > a listen to this track this morning: > > Wow, =A0really nice work, Simeon! =A0 =A0 =A0It's also a really cool and = clever > subdivision of the slower quarter > note in 5/4. > > Also, as a drummer, =A0I can't get a little snooty about guitarists > programming drum machines (just because > they so frequently don't sound 'realistic' to my ears but this is a reall= y > great, natural feeling use of programmed > drums. =A0 =A0Listening to it, =A0I was jealous of the drummer who got to= track it > with you until I read later that you > had programmed it. =A0 =A0 Not that it means a hill of beans as they say,= =A0but > this drummer says YEAH!!! > > Nice work! > > rick walker > > ps =A0now when will you come be featured in California some time soon? > There's a juicy festival spot just waiting for you if you ever decide to > cross that little pond twixt us. >> >> >> =A0 =A0http://simeonharris.bandcamp.com/track/the-space-between-breaths >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 14 10:51:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A073218345C; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 10:51:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 677365174/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.189.89/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.189.89 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlUCAFATmE5V0r1Z/2dsb2JhbAAMN5l9kXh9NAJiAYgCtyaHbQSZDYxA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,345,1315177200"; d="scan'208";a="677365174" Message-ID: <4E98141B.20800@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:51:07 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT new Zoom video/sound recorder Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112322 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 10:51:08 +0000 (UTC) For all you You-Tubers http://www.zoom.co.jp/products/q3hd Zooms upgrade of the Q3 video/sound recorder has the welcome addition of a line input. Still has the 120deg mic spacing :-( Although Zoom call this XY ...er...which it isn't. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 14 11:30:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5ACAB18345C; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:30:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/7NxP5FieG9L5w+OJKI7GAMvp7wU5gRzXfJqIJ7658w=; b=owGVW3mpRi0paswYx9GjsLEmSLoW/tby2W3C0GFj+vCynDv3AcHMqB9rQFhub8sM0r RvAd5pPAArntu5IE+D2PqdyNHE1KvyZABSl0nUygBQ18NBgVPEwwaa+/jXYabWSlGEQb 0eQauB6QCAEWyuoiVE1t7y5T8gjg5IGewquzI= Message-ID: <4E981D3D.5020001@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 13:30:05 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: FW: wery interesting guestion ! References: <70215E754BE640CCB8F4CF5AFFC5FE28@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: <70215E754BE640CCB8F4CF5AFFC5FE28@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112323 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:30:07 +0000 (UTC) Michael Peters schrieb: > The afroamerican sings. Not Sonique, no! In the song beginning plays > The electronic piano, keys quickly play. "The Bebop Tango (of the old jazzmen's church" by Frank Zappa. The afroamerican who doesn't sing Sonique and plays the quick keys on the electric piano would be George Duke...;) -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 14 12:40:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0635183461; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:40:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1800 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:40:11 UTC Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 08:10:07 -0400 From: Douglas Baldwin Subject: I'm back. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Loopers-Delight-d@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <6D148F97540A48BAA7C97736D9E12721@Bedroom> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 111014-0, 10/14/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean References: <20111014072752.8B282183461@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112324 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:40:11 +0000 (UTC) Greetings fellow Loopers and Loopees, I'm returning to the fold, or folding and returning, as loopers often do... After a bout of gigging in conventional musical ideoms, I'm performing live looping again. I've just done a couple of gigs so far, but will be ramping up more and more throughout the winter with the goal of very steady loop-gigging by next Spring. I'm on Long Island, New York - are there any other loopers on this cigar-shaped object? I'm looking forward to contributing to the community again, and after reading a few Digests and scanning the newsgroup archives, it's good to see so many names I recognize AND intelligent commentary from names I DON'T recognize. I'd like to hear from anyone who live-loop-gigs regularly, and any loopers on LI. Feel free to check out my web site: www.TheCoyote.org. Live looping is audio karma. Douglas Baldwin: the Coyote Loops! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 14 12:42:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FC6D18345D; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:42:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E982E0F.1060108@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 08:41:51 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #758 for October 13, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112325 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:42:05 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/111013.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #758 October 13, 2011. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Steve Roach. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Live at Grace Cathedral" disk two on Timeroom Editions. http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#oct PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) The Redundant Rocker Renee as Yoko Heart (Unsung) Alpha Wave Movement Contours and Soniq Variants (HRR) Cloudforms Conrad Schnitzler, RED Minced Valves (Ricochet Dream) Steve Schroyder, and Patrick Gresbek VA [Robert Rich] May 15, 2010. Home Patterning (Periphery) Robert Schrader Trinity * Lost Atlantis (Innova) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Steve Roach Merging with Grace Live at Grace Cathedral disk 2 (Timeroom Editions) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Steve Roach. The Featured CD at Midnight will be disk one from "Immersion Five: Circadian Rhythms" on Timeroom Editions. Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/listen on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 14 12:55:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 789EB183462; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:55:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BnmKSGVW7hIVMkG+ULRZHUFrPSK8RuSUy6+SxY5oRBI=; b=BO2fu6F0mWS45TlmdLn6ZNbTGHP57QkhLsS/GDqNHRJo1DF24R0qrSUQSZZ3WjSwtk 7O6tCvEhXJ1o121hj0kSqwCvi4NZG253gBINJgGEU16mZTmpZHQngqYY+VzXoABa8bMw bIib5zglTcmM3vSQ1V6sNnstFNJnqdG41D53Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E981D3D.5020001@googlemail.com> References: <70215E754BE640CCB8F4CF5AFFC5FE28@mpeserver> <4E981D3D.5020001@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:55:17 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FW: wery interesting guestion ! From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112326 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:55:18 +0000 (UTC) i remeber a chinese guy that once asked back when i was playing in a cover band if we could play "hoy kum gua" it took me a while to realize he meant "oye como va" On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Michael Peters schrieb: >> >> The afroamerican sings. Not Sonique, no! In the song beginning plays =A0= The >> electronic piano, keys quickly play. > > "The Bebop Tango (of the old jazzmen's church" by Frank Zappa. The > afroamerican who doesn't sing Sonique and plays the quick keys on the > electric piano would be George Duke...;) > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 14 13:03:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C8B618345E; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 13:03:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AKvXhLYTVpNe4OR831nS6DwY3GGdaFoYz9gjyWer4E0=; b=uh8YY1IiRs4kv3eABNO2KGomEwqt6GxVGmTjzyHffMAcSgNVQ+EYQZT6guGxBOhMrB h0dnTWe5LEENHIcsXNh9ACS4Zb+YUIExp9uqPkIOOWPbjzk8GUuXoSJ+kSN0RSZJ5h51 JbSoVl2yFmG2OQdLkySCYGuikttSRB1kUYrlc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4E96CE82.2090106@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:03:16 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 1st Night of the Y2KX+1 LoopFest From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112327 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 13:03:17 +0000 (UTC) Thax for reporting Rick wish i was there,but this year i think im broke like never before wish you all a great festival! Luis On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Jeremy devros wro= te: > You're killing me, Rick! I wish I was there! Actually, I wish I was > anywhere=A0but at work right now... > J.D. > >> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 04:41:54 -0700 >> From: looppool@cruzio.com >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: 1st Night of the Y2KX+1 LoopFest >> >> We had a really nice first night of the festival tonight. >> >> It was the best attended show we've ever had in San Jose at the Anno >> Domini >> Gallery (thanks to a superlative publicity campaign by Steve Uccello). >> >> Bill and I started things off and had a really nice set together. >> Nat Grant said it was really wonderful because we played so effortlessly= . >> >> Per Boysen came next with his new beautiful, small red Stick. >> It's the first time I've seen him perform with it and it was a really >> beautiful >> and very musical performance. >> >> Next up, newcomer, Patty Stucki (playing under the moniker Eela Soley) >> did a very beautiful set with voice, alto saxophone, silver flute and >> bamboo >> flute. She has a very nice combination of darkness with some strong >> 3rd world (especially middle=3Deastern) influences melodically. I really >> enjoyed >> it. >> >> Next Hideki Nakanishi (aka Mandoman) played what was, for me , the most >> compelling >> set I've seen him play in his numerous festival appearances. He really >> mixed it up, >> playing very rhythmic pieces with ambient pieces and also included some >> really nice >> Daxaphone playing as well to take it into an abstract direction. >> >> Georgina Brett came next. I really like the direction she is taking, >> mixing long layered >> loops of vocal, completely eschewing anything I've heard people do in >> the A Capella >> looping world. She's doing fascinating work by singing lines with out >> any consonants >> in them and going back in and overdubbing the consonants. It's a really >> unique approach >> that fascinates me. Her set, unfortunately, was plagued with feedback >> though and the sound from the P.A. >> was continually frustrating to her so she ended early. I felt bad >> that she had a hard >> set and promised her that we will set things straight, sonically , when >> she plays the >> main festival on Sunday. She is really as talented as all the buzz >> about her, as well >> as being a really sweet human being (who treated us to an amazing home >> made vegetarian >> soup when we got back from the venue) and I look forward >> to hearing her have a happier set on Sunday night at 10:00. >> >> Nat Grant finished off the evening with a very interesting and evolving >> set mixing all kinds of interesting >> percussive textures. Her set was easily the most avant garde of the >> evening and I, personally, >> loved it. The synchronicity between what she was doing and the >> beautiful Loopy Cam work >> of Maha Taitano really created a great atmosphere. Tim Thompson, >> Loopy Cam's inventor >> has graciously taught Maha and I how to use the Loopy Cam and also lent >> us the high powered >> computers to project it at the festival. Tim will be doing his own set >> with his new amazing visual >> and audio invention, the Space Palette, at 6:00 on Saturday. >> >> I walked on stage and played some non-looped Sonica (which is a 60's >> invention that combines >> a diatonic touch strip with organ like sounds) to accompany Nat's final >> minutes of her set. >> I just love how this artist thinks so it's always a thrill to play with >> her. >> >> At the headliners concert with Andrea Centazzo (Italy) and Matt >> Davignon, Nat and I will combine the >> end of her set with the beginning of mine with a couple of improvisation= s. >> I'm really looking forward to that (right after Santa Cruz Vice Mayor, >> Don Lane, presents the >> "International Live Looping Day" proclamation to the headlining artists. >> >> For the first time in many years (due to a miscommunication on my part >> with the Luggage Store) >> we actually have a day off tomorrow and then the main festival begins on >> Friday evening. >> >> It's a strong lineup this year and we'll even have a world technology >> premiere to end Friday evening's >> concert by the Sennheiser Research Lab of Palo Alto of a Wireless >> Midi/Microphone Controller used with a portable live looping rig. >> >> We came close to showing the LP-2 Mini Looper and Bob Amstadt is >> actually going to miss the festival (after having >> provided sound for us tonight) because he's home all weekend assembling >> LP-2 to begin mailing out. >> I can't wait to get mine. >> >> Okay................the whole house is full of snoring loopers and it's >> probably time for me to hit the hay! >> >> Rick Walker >> > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 14 14:02:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D46C6183462; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:02:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: 217.70.178.145 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter17-d.gandi.net X-Originating-IP: 115.30.213.129 Message-ID: <4E9840CF.1090201@m3ch.net> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 23:01:51 +0900 From: Dust Bunnies User-Agent: Postbox 2.5.2 (Macintosh/20110802) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Looper's Delight Compilation IV... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112328 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:02:16 +0000 (UTC) Since there's a Thursday gap before the full LY2k+1 festivities begin... I thought I'd mention here publicly how well the latest Looper's Delight Compilation (the fourth) came out. I received my copies on this side of the world a few days ago, and frankly, I'm shocked: shocked at how good it is. This community continues to amaze and delight on so many levels. The tracks themselves are a diverse yet coherent collection. It's surprising to think that 13 looping artists from all over the world could show so many divergent backgrounds, yet produce a compilation that flows nearly seamlessly from one musical vision to the next. Together, they compile a box of pretty matches, each a different color. One match may be more indigo or another may be quite too red, yet together they all burn in a single coherent flame. And the production on each track is superb. Despite the fact that most (all?) were certainly recorded in home or project studios, you'd be hard-pressed to hear any deficiency in the production standards. Overall, the quality is top-notch. I know many felt that we should eschew a physical article for download-only, but organizer David Kirkdorffer stuck to his guns and produced a truly high quality release -- from the selection & arrangement, through the mastering & production process, to packaging & final release. I look at it in my hand, and know that it feels and sounds every bit like a professional release from an established label. David did a great job of the curation. And Ted Killian deserves an extra-special nod for the amazing and beautiful cover design that he was able to bring to the project. I think they both deserve a special thank you for all their hard work. I know that there should be quite a few copies available at the merchandise table at Loopfest. I'd recommend any who gets a chance to grab a copy and give it a listen for themselves. You won't regret it, IMNSHO. --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 14 14:41:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9AC6F183460; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:41:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=7DyoRAkI6zMF6SZZC0SxWFy0pRzljRLELzll8096LYY=; b=RnMvU6FxJX/vfmLgefEHrPGmAEYPVXZLUjBU1+dWreTTMzesVmHPO9e3SJ8QT04feT z69GPbJQOKf+1J6YRqv4XTfIOxfgtpfJtjRKHn+1AV7Zuqwbg+0sAQIsGSh74/EgxHQp RdwurONxKgB9xOq++o3+MUWFAzZ0RGcVTMQhg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E9840CF.1090201@m3ch.net> References: <4E9840CF.1090201@m3ch.net> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:41:39 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looper's Delight Compilation IV... From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf300fb2bd45c4c304af4341e5 Resent-Message-ID: <7xIEYC.A._OG.koEmOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112329 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:41:40 +0000 (UTC) --20cf300fb2bd45c4c304af4341e5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I echo your toughts ! Just got my CDs today: the artwork is great and it sounds very PRO ! The first track, by Rick Walker, sounds like a perfect opening, the overral sound is great..I can wait to going deep into each song on this evening. Unfortunately there's not webiste where to buy it, at least at the moment. Hope it will be...in the meanwhile...if you are in Santa Cruz...follow Dust Bunnies suggestion ! -f www.eterogeneo.com 2011/10/14 Dust Bunnies > Since there's a Thursday gap before the full LY2k+1 festivities begin... > > I thought I'd mention here publicly how well the latest Looper's Delight > Compilation (the fourth) came out. I received my copies on this side of the > world a few days ago, and frankly, I'm shocked: shocked at how good it is. > This community continues to amaze and delight on so many levels. > > The tracks themselves are a diverse yet coherent collection. It's > surprising to think that 13 looping artists from all over the world could > show so many divergent backgrounds, yet produce a compilation that flows > nearly seamlessly from one musical vision to the next. Together, they > compile a box of pretty matches, each a different color. One match may be > more indigo or another may be quite too red, yet together they all burn in a > single coherent flame. > > And the production on each track is superb. Despite the fact that most > (all?) were certainly recorded in home or project studios, you'd be > hard-pressed to hear any deficiency in the production standards. > > Overall, the quality is top-notch. I know many felt that we should eschew > a physical article for download-only, but organizer David Kirkdorffer stuck > to his guns and produced a truly high quality release -- from the selection > & arrangement, through the mastering & production process, to packaging & > final release. I look at it in my hand, and know that it feels and sounds > every bit like a professional release from an established label. > > David did a great job of the curation. And Ted Killian deserves an > extra-special nod for the amazing and beautiful cover design that he was > able to bring to the project. I think they both deserve a special thank you > for all their hard work. > > I know that there should be quite a few copies available at the merchandise > table at Loopfest. I'd recommend any who gets a chance to grab a copy and > give it a listen for themselves. You won't regret it, IMNSHO. > > --m. > > --20cf300fb2bd45c4c304af4341e5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I echo your toughts !
Just got my CDs today: the artwork is great and i= t sounds very PRO !
The first track, by Rick Walker, sounds like = a perfect opening, the overral sound is great..I can wait to going deep int= o each song on=A0this evening.

Unfortunately there's not webiste where to buy it, = at least at the moment.
Hope it will be...in the meanwhile...if y= ou are in Santa Cruz...follow Dust Bunnies suggestion !

-f


2011/10/14 Dust Bunnies <mech@m3ch.net><= /span>
Since there's a Thursday gap before the= full LY2k+1 festivities begin...

I thought I'd mention here publicly how well the latest Looper's De= light Compilation (the fourth) came out. =A0I received my copies on this si= de of the world a few days ago, and frankly, I'm shocked: shocked at ho= w good it is. =A0This community continues to amaze and delight on so many l= evels.

The tracks themselves are a diverse yet coherent collection. =A0It's su= rprising to think that 13 looping artists from all over the world could sho= w so many divergent backgrounds, yet produce a compilation that flows nearl= y seamlessly from one musical vision to the next. =A0Together, they compile= a box of pretty matches, each a different color. =A0One match may be more = indigo or another may be quite too red, yet together they all burn in a sin= gle coherent flame.

And the production on each track is superb. =A0Despite the fact that most (= all?) were certainly recorded in home or project studios, you'd be hard= -pressed to hear any deficiency in the production standards.

Overall, the quality is top-notch. =A0I know many felt that we should esche= w a physical article for download-only, but organizer David Kirkdorffer stu= ck to his guns and produced a truly high quality release -- from the select= ion & arrangement, through the mastering & production process, to p= ackaging & final release. =A0I look at it in my hand, and know that it = feels and sounds every bit like a professional release from an established = label.

David did a great job of the curation. =A0And Ted Killian deserves an extra= -special nod for the amazing and beautiful cover design that he was able to= bring to the project. =A0I think they both deserve a special thank you for= all their hard work.

I know that there should be quite a few copies available at the merchandise= table at Loopfest. =A0I'd recommend any who gets a chance to grab a co= py and give it a listen for themselves. =A0You won't regret it, IMNSHO.=

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--m.


--20cf300fb2bd45c4c304af4341e5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 14 14:42:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 917FE18345B; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:42:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 405.6407.bm@omp1025.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1318603376; bh=xHM2SRyc2w8JDLbYmCi/+TFtQPXIQFzwaGisC2vAVdA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lY6h/tPg73XYmEzMVc/JL/sL4pj9sA8nr3kFzBUMELDX4i3qMdqy9q7GUGgS1kUkG5w4pcU3ClY5dAPn5vZA9eCRVomf8vtftLjBJh/d0x/kJewrbW8HhQSK5IcH6a8sYwl6S4Mf95r1Cydw1co77DZTQfE5CGbBDAuuFF8yqFk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5Dmk38XFAZwzrIuVup5kHY19oyAMSp0uRXvzx5yMTIckH8JsblPSLy1FCWuW9TcGcvK8wahxd9yYzvWdjUtkJkn5XrdmWzfMs2V8sV4wQj943bhqzEv5SJjaune010Q6Z+dqrHM8HUcS0QNy9eXnmZ8YkFESlcgK4s9PVZYg3q4=; X-YMail-OSG: F6abKZUVM1mZVo5.Fx0_x8IxT1tYr6F5y6PoF4aofGcKIcE XxVtBF1wJKHKdRMrtkfrpD5QoccNfbCvQWTAZJMx6pcaNzhYi8bePu0HwvH0 sn8RrWqbB6IEtKeRt8ClPZa39tnkBgG8UVcf5MVYsXo86b01q_LiwziGG7tR SkM3Fy1L40NmbqWYAABbNTEIvZB2BuPdbSwqAkPGTofsl8MHXnJ8SvoiYqdB U2wpm5uAl2mDcdkIAfruMaiAldxVjkGVhSRwk7RCI.qTXNjXZUhCHapt6R2u EyJJDGzyl6k0Nf3n.gLYjYMDbIWRSSZ3nK4gSBxwq7_Blrf8rWxfEOoonmfh nITEbfLH1UzJSIJqHRfa7zTAMsXWdhwPPEvOfp66XQIuAJajv_HFV5T8E1ud hyQE9Vd3mWF2kIgF94_0IGTOFX_O0OoJp.eM2B01yCOu00tLC.dhlGKByDBw UjmmZs7BGU8F4CJIqzcxGopbzGRUE2mDUodpt X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.114.317681 References: <4E9840CF.1090201@m3ch.net> Message-ID: <1318603375.14095.YahooMailNeo@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 07:42:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Reply-To: Paul Richards Subject: Re: Looper's Delight Compilation IV... To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: <4E9840CF.1090201@m3ch.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-2114655128-219262915-1318603375=:14095" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112330 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:42:57 +0000 (UTC) ---2114655128-219262915-1318603375=:14095 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I checked the Loopers Delight website and only saw Compilation #3 as the "l= atest". Am I missing something? Where can I purchase a copy?=0A=A0=0ARegard= s, Paul=0A=0AFrom: Dust Bunnies =0ATo: "Loopers-Delight@loop= ers-delight.com" =0ASent: Friday, Octo= ber 14, 2011 10:01 AM=0ASubject: Looper's Delight Compilation IV...=0A=0ASi= nce there's a Thursday gap before the full LY2k+1 festivities begin...=0A= =0AI thought I'd mention here publicly how well the latest Looper's Delight= Compilation (the fourth) came out.=A0 I received my copies on this side of= the world a few days ago, and frankly, I'm shocked: shocked at how good it= is.=A0 This community continues to amaze and delight on so many levels.=0A= =0AThe tracks themselves are a diverse yet coherent collection.=A0 It's sur= prising to think that 13 looping artists from all over the world could show= so many divergent backgrounds, yet produce a compilation that flows nearly= seamlessly from one musical vision to the next.=A0 Together, they compile = a box of pretty matches, each a different color.=A0 One match may be more i= ndigo or another may be quite too red, yet together they all burn in a sing= le coherent flame.=0A=0AAnd the production on each track is superb.=A0 Desp= ite the fact that most (all?) were certainly recorded in home or project st= udios, you'd be hard-pressed to hear any deficiency in the production stand= ards.=0A=0AOverall, the quality is top-notch.=A0 I know many felt that we s= hould eschew a physical article for download-only, but organizer David Kirk= dorffer stuck to his guns and produced a truly high quality release -- from= the selection & arrangement, through the mastering & production process, t= o packaging & final release.=A0 I look at it in my hand, and know that it f= eels and sounds every bit like a professional release from an established l= abel.=0A=0ADavid did a great job of the curation.=A0 And Ted Killian deserv= es an extra-special nod for the amazing and beautiful cover design that he = was able to bring to the project.=A0 I think they both deserve a special th= ank you for all their hard work.=0A=0AI know that there should be quite a f= ew copies available at the merchandise table at Loopfest.=A0 I'd recommend = any who gets a chance to grab a copy and give it a listen for themselves.= =A0 You won't regret it, IMNSHO.=0A=0A=A0=A0=A0 --m. ---2114655128-219262915-1318603375=:14095 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I checked the Loopers Delight website and= only saw Compilation #3 as the "latest". Am I missing something? Where can= I purchase a copy?
 
Regards, Paul

From:= Dust Bunnies <mech@m3ch.net>
To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" <Looper= s-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
S= ent: Friday, October 14, 2011 10:01 AM
Subject: Looper's Delight Compilation IV...

Since there's a Thursday gap before the full LY2k+1 festivities be= gin...

I thought I'd mention here publicly how well the latest Loope= r's Delight Compilation (the fourth) came out.  I received my copies o= n this side of the world a few days ago, and frankly, I'm shocked: shocked at how= good it is.  This community continues to amaze and delight on so many= levels.

The tracks themselves are a diverse yet coherent collection= .  It's surprising to think that 13 looping artists from all over the = world could show so many divergent backgrounds, yet produce a compilation t= hat flows nearly seamlessly from one musical vision to the next.  Toge= ther, they compile a box of pretty matches, each a different color.  O= ne match may be more indigo or another may be quite too red, yet together t= hey all burn in a single coherent flame.

And the production on each = track is superb.  Despite the fact that most (all?) were certainly rec= orded in home or project studios, you'd be hard-pressed to hear any deficie= ncy in the production standards.

Overall, the quality is top-notch.&= nbsp; I know many felt that we should eschew a physical article for download-only, but organizer David Kirkdorffer stuck to his guns and produ= ced a truly high quality release -- from the selection & arrangement, t= hrough the mastering & production process, to packaging & final rel= ease.  I look at it in my hand, and know that it feels and sounds ever= y bit like a professional release from an established label.

David d= id a great job of the curation.  And Ted Killian deserves an extra-spe= cial nod for the amazing and beautiful cover design that he was able to bri= ng to the project.  I think they both deserve a special thank you for = all their hard work.

I know that there should be quite a few copies = available at the merchandise table at Loopfest.  I'd recommend any who= gets a chance to grab a copy and give it a listen for themselves.  Yo= u won't regret it, IMNSHO.

    --m.



---2114655128-219262915-1318603375=:14095-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 14 14:48:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90CB918345E; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:48:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-10-14_04:2011-10-14,2011-10-14,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1110140143 Subject: Re: Interesting critique of Wednesdays' Y2KX+1 show From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: <4E9761C5.7050604@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 10:48:32 -0400 Message-id: <70B9C3B6-6170-40F3-83EE-B800CF2F3909@mac.com> References: <4E9761C5.7050604@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112331 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:48:44 +0000 (UTC) To each his own. One man's avant garde is another man's convention. _Its the challenge of a broadly inclusive festival. And worthy one at that. Daniel On Oct 13, 2011, at 6:10 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > I got an email from someone who attended last night's show in San Jose > and I thought it was fascinating, and although I found his praise of Bill's and my > set flattering, I did not agree in the slightest with the 'take' > > This person wrote: > "I thought Wednesday's show was heavy on the avant garde. Although, your performance was outstanding! > > Might one of the three Santa Cruz days feature more "conventional" music? > > > > Anyone else who was there, care to weigh in on this comment. > Of all the sets, I only thought Nat Grant's was experimental and non-prorgammatic > but maybe I'm getting used to going to looping festivals. > > Rick Walker > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 14 15:14:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3B16183460; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:14:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <20111014072752.8B282183461@arsenic.violacea.com> <6D148F97540A48BAA7C97736D9E12721@Bedroom> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: I'm back. In-Reply-To: <6D148F97540A48BAA7C97736D9E12721@Bedroom> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: michael klobuchar X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CE589B0856BA97_1C34_1D42E_webmail-m054.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 34188-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CE589B084AD3B2-1C34-CE11@webmail-m054.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [68.162.138.161] Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:13:59 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:374145440:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c84e9851b775d0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112332 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:14:00 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CE589B0856BA97_1C34_1D42E_webmail-m054.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" YIPPPPEEEE!!!!!!!! =20 ----------MB_8CE589B0856BA97_1C34_1D42E_webmail-m054.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" YIPPPPEEEE!!!!!!!!




----------MB_8CE589B0856BA97_1C34_1D42E_webmail-m054.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 14 15:21:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E3A1183460; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:21:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020203.4E985382.01BE,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=E1u1CDwvnKqfC54qdI2pbMkyaueQESI4nkxnfsgqnO8= c=1 sm=1 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:17 a=xRfjoxBpAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=jfmHUGyPAAAA:8 a=IKc1P31AGI3_AJyMqzEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=bgAgzZxQv2QA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Clayton Gary Lehmann" To: References: <20111014072752.8B282183461@arsenic.violacea.com> <6D148F97540A48BAA7C97736D9E12721@Bedroom> Subject: RE: I'm back. Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 08:21:38 -0700 Message-ID: <27623A03D3F747BBB3E5B80CBBCC043E@your0548c161e1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <6D148F97540A48BAA7C97736D9E12721@Bedroom> thread-index: AcyKbm+VdaBtp3L1Ramx785o6ilrPAAFmIYg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112333 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:21:45 +0000 (UTC) Still using the GT-3? Mine sees some use . . . What's your main guitar effector these days? G -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Baldwin [mailto:coyotelk@optonline.net] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 5:10 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com; Loopers-Delight-d@loopers-delight.com Subject: I'm back. Greetings fellow Loopers and Loopees, I'm returning to the fold, or folding and returning, as loopers often do... After a bout of gigging in conventional musical ideoms, I'm performing live looping again. I've just done a couple of gigs so far, but will be ramping up more and more throughout the winter with the goal of very steady loop-gigging by next Spring. I'm on Long Island, New York - are there any other loopers on this cigar-shaped object? I'm looking forward to contributing to the community again, and after reading a few Digests and scanning the newsgroup archives, it's good to see so many names I recognize AND intelligent commentary from names I DON'T recognize. I'd like to hear from anyone who live-loop-gigs regularly, and any loopers on LI. Feel free to check out my web site: www.TheCoyote.org. Live looping is audio karma. Douglas Baldwin: the Coyote Loops! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 14 15:21:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2699E183465; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:21:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=6DnK9SlspjQUafU6MzYmZAt1wpB1MUaNH28Mo/Kfxqk= c=1 sm=1 a=DKlvUIG5HigA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:17 a=NrG-dKtuuKGb6XY2DFQA:9 a=vO_J-mAyyeVfqyLTglQA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Looper's Delight Compilation IV... From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= In-Reply-To: <4E9840CF.1090201@m3ch.net> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 08:21:53 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <31C52228-56CA-444A-BE8C-4D4C4D09DBC6@charter.net> References: <4E9840CF.1090201@m3ch.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112334 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:21:55 +0000 (UTC) Mr. Bunnies (AKA Duke Sexton), Thanks for the kind words about the CD design. And, I concur about how well the mastering was done. The folks that David Kirkdorffer found to do that part . . . and the = company that did the manufacturing too . . . all did an excellent job. Technically speaking, it couldn't have turned out better. I am sort of wondering if some of us shouldn't just send some copies to = Violet so she can sell them on the LD website (and perhaps help support = the operating costs thereof). I at least am willing to do so (if something of the sort hasn't already = been arranged). I'll post her a message on FB and see if she's interested in something = like that. Best regards, Ted On Oct 14, 2011, at 7:01 AM, Dust Bunnies wrote: > Since there's a Thursday gap before the full LY2k+1 festivities = begin... >=20 > I thought I'd mention here publicly how well the latest Looper's = Delight Compilation (the fourth) came out. I received my copies on this = side of the world a few days ago, and frankly, I'm shocked: shocked at = how good it is. This community continues to amaze and delight on so = many levels. >=20 > The tracks themselves are a diverse yet coherent collection. It's = surprising to think that 13 looping artists from all over the world = could show so many divergent backgrounds, yet produce a compilation that = flows nearly seamlessly from one musical vision to the next. Together, = they compile a box of pretty matches, each a different color. One match = may be more indigo or another may be quite too red, yet together they = all burn in a single coherent flame. >=20 > And the production on each track is superb. Despite the fact that = most (all?) were certainly recorded in home or project studios, you'd be = hard-pressed to hear any deficiency in the production standards. >=20 > Overall, the quality is top-notch. I know many felt that we should = eschew a physical article for download-only, but organizer David = Kirkdorffer stuck to his guns and produced a truly high quality release = -- from the selection & arrangement, through the mastering & production = process, to packaging & final release. I look at it in my hand, and = know that it feels and sounds every bit like a professional release from = an established label. >=20 > David did a great job of the curation. And Ted Killian deserves an = extra-special nod for the amazing and beautiful cover design that he was = able to bring to the project. I think they both deserve a special thank = you for all their hard work. >=20 > I know that there should be quite a few copies available at the = merchandise table at Loopfest. I'd recommend any who gets a chance to = grab a copy and give it a listen for themselves. You won't regret it, = IMNSHO. >=20 > --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 14 15:22:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BAF4183460; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:22:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020207.4E9853C2.014F,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=vUQgPkuIFdixsK0JqVXPakYPX3myWQVfjt2/U8ie43s= c=1 sm=1 a=lEjGw42azPIA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:17 a=z7E3XqKlDLdkJPu8zdAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Clayton Gary Lehmann" To: References: <4E9761C5.7050604@cruzio.com> <70B9C3B6-6170-40F3-83EE-B800CF2F3909@mac.com> Subject: RE: Interesting critique of Wednesdays' Y2KX+1 show Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 08:22:41 -0700 Message-ID: <53113ADF224E4E18AC170962222E9632@your0548c161e1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <70B9C3B6-6170-40F3-83EE-B800CF2F3909@mac.com> thread-index: AcyKgGC3UJ5Ma4SqSBusFPCTsYECtQABKcNA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112335 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:22:44 +0000 (UTC) Send 'em to my gigs. Gnarly "Master of the mundane loop" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 14 15:24:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D72EB183460; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:24:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=3kn4snR/2TdwuYXvh+wm0CPnSGzQFWY7ukd303aPFv0= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:17 a=jfmHUGyPAAAA:8 a=h4ng_dhE7ZrEpTQ8aOYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:117 Subject: Re: I'm back. Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <6D148F97540A48BAA7C97736D9E12721@Bedroom> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 08:24:54 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1AAC3EAB-C6D3-4BAE-888D-F83900CE2070@charter.net> References: <20111014072752.8B282183461@arsenic.violacea.com> <6D148F97540A48BAA7C97736D9E12721@Bedroom> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112336 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:24:56 +0000 (UTC) D. Baldwin, Coyote Man, I recognize that byline. Yep, some of us old timers are still here. On Oct 14, 2011, at 5:10 AM, Douglas Baldwin wrote: > Greetings fellow Loopers and Loopees, > I'm returning to the fold, or folding and returning, as loopers = often do... > After a bout of gigging in conventional musical ideoms, I'm = performing live looping again. I've just done a couple of gigs so far, = but will be ramping up more and more throughout the winter with the goal = of very steady loop-gigging by next Spring. I'm on Long Island, New York = - are there any other loopers on this cigar-shaped object? > I'm looking forward to contributing to the community again, and = after reading a few Digests and scanning the newsgroup archives, it's = good to see so many names I recognize AND intelligent commentary from = names I DON'T recognize. > I'd like to hear from anyone who live-loop-gigs regularly, and any = loopers on LI. Feel free to check out my web site: www.TheCoyote.org. > Live looping is audio karma. > Douglas Baldwin: the Coyote Loops! >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 14 15:29:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B2B818345A; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:29:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=OExn2/6iggJ40dYWI/7kdvJkVDYr9ZuiEj9HXF67Z1g=; b=wD5o80lURRQ/UeDU3AA7JM+vL96Xf7VqXvJ7jlRWnJk/vs+6pHEq/JmCsoLhDAuekf g7G139CukYPbyMKDeQ720XjZ8QiKprvjfDvNIMXGQ9l/Zns29AFGCfyNWc7rhgFiYpQt j1K33+haPHLb9qTKcWQ1HWP/WcUJ6fgO/VtHY= Message-ID: <4E985568.7080509@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:29:44 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Y2K11 loopfest - webcast of some kind? References: <4E96CE82.2090106@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4E96CE82.2090106@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112337 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:29:41 +0000 (UTC) Hi Rick (and others), is there some kind of web transmission of some of the festival, like there had been in previous years? Ustream or something of that kind... Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 14 15:40:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE4A418345C; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:40:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=oLGaGj8ahBU018qSGQqs8lY4NTDpxbNIqzwrgjUN+i4=; b=eW9ATqIHyyTohfJoYszQj1bx+0hp+QuBbUY9o51wEaThdER0rv8b2nGyk04a5giuFj Or/vSn6CHIZ6EO13T21CWq1ohxMw0+uvatQ8C6BeMFCreB7yPHmvoxggDaiKgTfB99or A2FniMsDXP6Rx9lX5QWBJHQDLbjb0xYHGYTQI= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Looper's Delight Compilation IV... From: Matthias Grob In-Reply-To: <1318603375.14095.YahooMailNeo@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:39:52 -0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4E9840CF.1090201@m3ch.net> <1318603375.14095.YahooMailNeo@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> To: Loop List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112338 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:40:20 +0000 (UTC) Paul, if you look closer, there is nothing new on LD since 2006 http://LiveLooping.org has been updated by Michael Peters we are working on a new version and very soon it can be updated by many = people sure, the Compilation should be mentioned there! On 14 Oct 2011, at 11:42, Paul Richards wrote: > I checked the Loopers Delight website and only saw Compilation #3 as = the "latest". Am I missing something? Where can I purchase a copy? > =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 14 15:43:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80D3C183479; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:43:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=vfpVh05UKLcX26q0N3ywEa5xgu74/5OXTcPb9bWTW6A=; b=gIkNS9Lds1G648N1yj5GTDu8Dup3ugOBOFwPknkaAJu3jb085sy3HVGUU2Smfusvsx /lX/NC+Ss2A9tKc8w6XRDSIZ4+35qHstVa0CEP0IgRu57F55ro53Z1n1+iZbA0Y/tV9j v4hi97+gAfpP4ycwTJSrGmga5myKeiVxBJNIs= From: Matthias Grob Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-43-997388945 Subject: Re: Interesting critique of Wednesdays' Y2KX+1 show Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:43:25 -0300 In-Reply-To: <20111013181024.11381rv3s1kf56n4@mail.kevinkissinger.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4E9761C5.7050604@cruzio.com> <20111013181024.11381rv3s1kf56n4@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Message-Id: <5F3C1881-7A96-46C0-A884-C5CAB302AAB7@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112339 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:43:53 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-43-997388945 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I think I can feel what the guy meant with "conventional" and I think = people who like such music are interested in yours, Kevin but thats just an opinion... On 13 Oct 2011, at 20:10, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: >=20 > I don't really consider my music to be "avante-garde" however it is = unconventional. A festival of "conventional" music would not be = interested in me, anyway. >=20 --Apple-Mail-43-997388945 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I think I can feel what the guy meant with "conventional" and I think people who like such music are interested in yours, Kevin
but thats just an opinion...

On 13 Oct 2011, at 20:10, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote:

I don't really consider my music to be "avante-garde" however it is unconventional.  A festival of "conventional" music would not be interested in me, anyway.


--Apple-Mail-43-997388945-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 14 15:51:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B1C6183465; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:51:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pHixTmTlfN1CzJ/6H+UKkgpac7QVTilXnMSpGOgRkI0=; b=qZE2IOnHx1yPnwBivrf98rpQ1/BRZKS41ENrbAZJ95TSyHUxJv/SdEK4DlyP7eUoG9 Xw6Sy6nsqu0x9sG2Is5Euchx1HrTujn/Qsato16emhUc3XDpO85G+2IzK5CxzEw+Dj0/ gR02gjqSkEnGEdADjHpXB9xx7jH+gzKJ8c9AQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6D148F97540A48BAA7C97736D9E12721@Bedroom> References: <20111014072752.8B282183461@arsenic.violacea.com> <6D148F97540A48BAA7C97736D9E12721@Bedroom> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 08:51:31 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: I'm back. From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <8NEpMC.A.mG.EqFmOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112340 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:51:32 +0000 (UTC) Welcome back to the fold (errr, loop?). Kevin On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 5:10 AM, Douglas Baldwin w= rote: > Greetings fellow Loopers and Loopees, > =A0 I'm returning to the fold, or folding and returning, as loopers often > do... > =A0 After a bout of gigging in conventional musical ideoms, I'm performin= g > live looping again. I've just done a couple of gigs so far, but will be > ramping up more and more throughout the winter with the goal of very stea= dy > loop-gigging by next Spring. I'm on Long Island, New York - are there any > other loopers on this cigar-shaped object? > =A0 I'm looking forward to contributing to the community again, and after > reading a few Digests and scanning the newsgroup archives, it's good to s= ee > so many names I recognize AND intelligent commentary from names I DON'T > recognize. > =A0 I'd like to hear from anyone who live-loop-gigs regularly, and any lo= opers > on LI. Feel free to check out my web site: www.TheCoyote.org. > =A0 Live looping is audio karma. > =A0 Douglas Baldwin: the Coyote Loops! > > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 14 17:20:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E31E018345A; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:20:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xZzmN2AtFrArAamGHDsjCfvhifIKQnoZLlvMIKX8sqU=; b=u+6G3G450pSH/wAhdeySawgJDyuS8wqjkzkwXE83yfCsF/w9Rby9iMMxliMEuEkMj5 Bej+arwnJ99oPlLD7d8FVnUKgWq6S1yJ5max+khKx1IipYvpMYNsRoWLHCR9Ob8h2agR 3tYRR6fnnZihqEEJ8CUjNKPUiWz5dkJVsz7WI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5F3C1881-7A96-46C0-A884-C5CAB302AAB7@gmail.com> References: <4E9761C5.7050604@cruzio.com> <20111013181024.11381rv3s1kf56n4@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <5F3C1881-7A96-46C0-A884-C5CAB302AAB7@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 10:20:50 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Interesting critique of Wednesdays' Y2KX+1 show From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112341 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:20:51 +0000 (UTC) I always find it interesting to hear how different people experience music. It seems each of us have our personal filtering system ;-) However, "avant-garde" was quite surprising here as only Nat's set was atonal while all others used melodies and chords as a major steppingstone. Maybe the fact that Nat's set was last left it as the dominating memory fragment in this person? I also remember that Rick joined in with Nat coming walking from behind the audience, a classic "avant-garde trick", and that might have triggered some personal bias within the listener? Personally I hope Nat will play similar music on Sunday cuz I'd love to hear those exciting sounds on the good system in the better acoustic environment of Pearl Alley Studios. See you there, guys. Greetings from Bill's Porch Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Matthias Grob wrote: > I think I can feel what the guy meant with "conventional" and I think peo= ple > who like such music are interested in yours, Kevin > but thats just an opinion... > On 13 Oct 2011, at 20:10, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: > > I don't really consider my music to be "avante-garde" however it is > unconventional. =C2=A0A festival of "conventional" music would not be int= erested > in me, anyway. > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 14 17:25:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1365A18345E; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:25:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 6390 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:25:37 UTC Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1AAC3EAB-C6D3-4BAE-888D-F83900CE2070@charter.net> References: <20111014072752.8B282183461@arsenic.violacea.com> <6D148F97540A48BAA7C97736D9E12721@Bedroom> <1AAC3EAB-C6D3-4BAE-888D-F83900CE2070@charter.net> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:39:01 -0400 Subject: Re: I'm back. From: "p koniuto" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: peter@RedSunSoundroom.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jade.liquidweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - RedSunSoundroom.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112342 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:25:37 +0000 (UTC) > D. Baldwin, Coyote Man, I recognize that byline. > > Yep, some of us old timers are still here. Yep, me too. I never left, it's just hard to keep up sometimes! But i value this community now as much as i did in 1996, and in the following few years when i learned SO MUCH from this crew. Kim, Zvonar, they have left us...but the community lives. And we keep learning, and getting off topic sometimes... A hearty thanks to the lot of you who have made up such a major part of my education--about a LOT of things! Peace, Peter ______________________________ Peter Koniuto Creative Recordist - Composer Red Sun Soundroom "Birth Music I" available now: http://redsunsoundroom.com/in-the-stream peter AT RedSunSoundroom.com ______________________________ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 14 17:56:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 06AFD18345F; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:56:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-10-14_06:2011-10-14,2011-10-14,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1110140203 Subject: Re: Interesting critique of Wednesdays' Y2KX+1 show From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 10:56:37 -0700 Message-id: References: <4E9761C5.7050604@cruzio.com> <20111013181024.11381rv3s1kf56n4@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <5F3C1881-7A96-46C0-A884-C5CAB302AAB7@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <5FJr6B.A.yCC.ffHmOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112343 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:56:47 +0000 (UTC) > Greetings from Bill's Porch One of the great respites on planet earth. I love Bill's porch. Its seen more than a few good guitar pickin sessions. Great to have you as a guest in Santa Cruz, Mr. Boysen. cheers Daniel On Oct 14, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > I always find it interesting to hear how different people experience > music. It seems each of us have our personal filtering system ;-) > However, "avant-garde" was quite surprising here as only Nat's set was > atonal while all others used melodies and chords as a major > steppingstone. Maybe the fact that Nat's set was last left it as the > dominating memory fragment in this person? I also remember that Rick > joined in with Nat coming walking from behind the audience, a classic > "avant-garde trick", and that might have triggered some personal bias > within the listener? > > Personally I hope Nat will play similar music on Sunday cuz I'd love > to hear those exciting sounds on the good system in the better > acoustic environment of Pearl Alley Studios. See you there, guys. > > Greetings from Bill's Porch > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > > > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Matthias Grob wrote: >> I think I can feel what the guy meant with "conventional" and I think people >> who like such music are interested in yours, Kevin >> but thats just an opinion... >> On 13 Oct 2011, at 20:10, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: >> >> I don't really consider my music to be "avante-garde" however it is >> unconventional. A festival of "conventional" music would not be interested >> in me, anyway. >> >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 14 18:13:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C8FF183462; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 18:13:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ejpZhlk7r5sLs/wMoVU+1ziHloOovnv6sVZlExIBW6Y=; b=bKr71TQeCvrMMSUL8ntv/lInelu3iaUttJSwuHF795cXKedeDhhaQFeoOwIrxy0n2/ Kt+/ZaVO1B2mFBuhyBvXEwAc95X5zbYo34oNkcuz6+RCshukV3ntkfQo4SatQ6JxGTX7 iEG6s5R0bmoLcGAGzZTEcyjJ9xkOKEADdgpH0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:13:00 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Looping for rehearsal, record/listen/record/ ... From: Michael Ellis To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112344 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 18:13:01 +0000 (UTC) I'm looking for a software or inexpensive hardware solution for the following seemingly simple task: Record a bar or two of playing (fiddle, fwiw) Listen to what I've just played Record another try, =A0listen, =A0etc. The catch is that I'd like it to be hands-free and, optimally, foot-free and and in continuous rhythm. =A0In other words I'm looking for a setup that will allow me to specify a fixed duration and then begin alternating automatically between recording and playing back. I currently own a Boss RC-20XL. =A0It can do a great many things, but not this. =A0I also have the very cute Everyday Looper app on my iPhone. =A0Again no luck with this particular task. This is for rehearsal only, so audio quality is less important than convenience. Anyone know of a (preferably cheap) solution? Thanks, Mike From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 14 18:44:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B755183462; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 18:44:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CzVlWEr5ywbE8X2LVge6kkBenCDAC3OOdfjVJkAEf6M=; b=cB7+f5yPDBpDxXgl3UxHWPH568zC4L/dPmFMf/QA7VtQNb8qGqGAYV/XfLh7f38dHe ce4saGNe/2mMaRpjcAQxsiEffHq/L0G2Jb2KMc4RsMdZ2mFlA7vNICN07uMXNsCEPB/n sNWAyfvvbqaaTI2dCmRE9mjTPk/depWU9a2jo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 19:44:46 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looping for rehearsal, record/listen/record/ ... From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112345 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 18:44:46 +0000 (UTC) what you want is a looper that will sit in overdub with feedback set to zero....or a simple delay unit. i can't believe the rc-20xl can't do this...anybody have experience with this unit to share? On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Michael Ellis wrote: > I'm looking for a software or inexpensive hardware solution for the > following seemingly simple task: > > Record a bar or two of playing (fiddle, fwiw) > Listen to what I've just played > Record another try, =A0listen, =A0etc. > > The catch is that I'd like it to be hands-free and, optimally, > foot-free and and in continuous rhythm. =A0In other words I'm looking > for a setup that will allow me to specify a fixed duration and then > begin alternating automatically between recording and playing back. > > I currently own a Boss RC-20XL. =A0It can do a great many things, but > not this. =A0I also have the very cute Everyday Looper app on my iPhone. > =A0Again no luck with this particular task. > > This is for rehearsal only, so audio quality is less important than > convenience. =A0Anyone know of a (preferably cheap) solution? > > Thanks, > Mike > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 14 19:21:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 423E8183460; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 19:21:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=8zM/WyhDtzsf/k3QSQ7SzbWyh0f4fP0ha6zmsp+X8z4=; b=Rdv/qv57bbM19XkPHlAiNZWegjzz03QL0e9VFGTvRc5TbjeEiii7/HvyDEL5FULDcf 8iEqvAPe8snLBqSCiF+sPbApySaX2wYwahRJQxxc8F6VUk1xX7y2HlNrsL4oJ4OfPaYp bt+A2GWB7emvKgRHscPXGyfiDQolMJ8AnSfgA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:21:41 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looping for rehearsal, record/listen/record/ ... From: Michael Ellis To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <6HcqXC.A.IvD.HvImOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112346 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 19:21:43 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > what you want is a looper that will sit in overdub with feedback set > to zero....or a simple delay unit. i can't believe the rc-20xl can't > do this...anybody have experience with this unit to share? I called the BOSS support line before posting. They confirmed the RC20XL will not do this. Cheers, Mike From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 14 19:25:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E3596183461; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 19:25:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E988C91.7010506@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:25:05 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110920 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Louie Angulo , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: 1st Night of the Y2KX+1 LoopFest References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112347 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 19:25:13 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Thax for reporting Rick wish i was there,but this year i think im > broke like never before > wish you all a great festival! Thanks bud. May your finances rebound this year, along with everyone's!!!!! love, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 14 19:45:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6FA18183460; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 19:45:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=1vdsYDoI/QObIRNYSpESZtq61MCzgx1QeORe94VdHx8=; b=Lq0CQr2YLaxoSHhdND5sUV7hdg6W67ZAFs6fcYfO1EiuxPPQzUSbn+QLgEY+Xw2zGn +NyPgEWhrU3yvhzBmSkN1yba2cAIFkyuWZec92qgZxVqR/6CswodN1F1JohEmSSqNb71 9AEa2rhR7PFkyVBF8kdS/741B/b9dU/IOr/4c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E98141B.20800@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4E98141B.20800@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:45:32 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT new Zoom video/sound recorder From: Jeffrey Collins To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c17740f53e404af47802e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112348 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 19:45:34 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c17740f53e404af47802e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'll stick with my H4n and my Canon 5D Mk2 for making my videos. Which BTW, if anyone here is interested in field recording and is wondering about which recorder to buy. I HIGHLY recommend the H4n and I'll put this up as an example. http://jeffreycollins.us/STE-004-1.mp3 I recorded it last night from my bedroom window. You can even hear the faint sound of the leaves touching the ground. Cheers. Jeffrey On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 6:51 AM, andy butler wrote: > For all you You-Tubers > > > http://www.zoom.co.jp/**products/q3hd > > Zooms upgrade of the Q3 video/sound recorder has the > welcome addition of a line input. > > Still has the 120deg mic spacing :-( > Although Zoom call this XY ...er...which it isn't. > > > > andy > > --0015174c17740f53e404af47802e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'll stick with my H4n and my Canon 5D Mk2 for making my videos. Which = BTW, if anyone here is interested in field recording and is wondering about= which recorder to buy. I HIGHLY recommend the H4n and I'll put this up= as an example.


I recorded it la= st night from my bedroom window. You can even hear the faint sound of the l= eaves touching the ground.

Cheers.=A0
Jeffrey

On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 6:51 AM, andy butler <= akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
For all you You-Tubers


http://ww= w.zoom.co.jp/products/q3hd

Zooms upgrade of the Q3 video/sound recorder has the
welcome addition of a line input.

Still has the 120deg mic spacing :-(
Although Zoom call this XY ...er...which it isn't.



andy


--0015174c17740f53e404af47802e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 14 20:44:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C127183460; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 20:44:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=j7iWPsTznlMrCJaVqWWo6KXdKfCB1ptqpiW5KreAQus=; b=X2P5BzWZCvheoTB0gKI4XnNzPOn78lFrRz9/sDKnBAH49KH0wIjmtyvnQ/7TxSQJhX Aaw+kYWJN6j9R6VY5IPmBb0FHwG32MNOmHc5NsYFyBmqDdzNK1JAcdw+i2OswsfU7VNV vC/KpdPE/m+xfSbLSRIEQvTPdAgvwrZ5syPGs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:44:25 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looping for rehearsal, record/listen/record/ ... From: Michael Ellis To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112349 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 20:44:26 +0000 (UTC) After some more searching, I came across SooperLooper (SL) , a free programmable looper program that runs on OS-X and Linux under JACK. Installation was straightforward. Had to RTFM to figure out how JackPilot works but it really didn't take long to get connected to the built-in devices on my Mac. I'm not familiar with OSC, the programmable control interface used by SL, but there seems to be an active section of discussions on the SL forum and I've posted a request there and offered to share any script I cobble together for alternating record/playback cycles. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 14 23:31:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D723D183460; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 23:31:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=yYjRztDgI2C0E051YFQrodIX4XF6f+LSB453D//QrzE=; b=SBpXiIz/qVZWkSmOlLwxQYX0Y1RIRne5klfKE71hTd8Jo+y3EaQoWaikNs3Uosn8NO pg8JTLJtwor7KoH3B6PvImvxsrENkov9Wi69pYbqoNupW0lPf5UCsVnx5Sae3cv62+S1 mSUpLluRWwaXbGjaxksMt8TIkug4PQh5nr990= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4E988C91.7010506@cruzio.com> References: <4E988C91.7010506@cruzio.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 01:31:16 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: J6v7NW70Fi3FGwKHCNdAMjYb39g Message-ID: Subject: Re: 1st Night of the Y2KX+1 LoopFest To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3005123484e3bf04af4aa8f0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112350 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 23:31:37 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3005123484e3bf04af4aa8f0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sounds like you guys are having a lot of fun, and I'm very sorry to not be able to write this on Bill porch. Its killing me not being there, last year was such a wonderful experience for me. Keep up the reports Rick and Per! And anyone else who is there!! Best wishes and have a good one! -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --20cf3005123484e3bf04af4aa8f0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sounds like you guys are having a lot of fun, and I'm very sorry to not= be able to write this on Bill porch. Its killing me not being there, last = year was such a wonderful experience for me. Keep up the reports Rick and P= er! And anyone else who is there!!

Best wishes and have a good one!


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Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
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--20cf3005123484e3bf04af4aa8f0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 14 23:53:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18495183463; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 23:53:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=MhuMNlDvUuxabd140Z+zfpHeSXDOsTtoW73v0rfcJkQ=; b=qrZk40xU+JpHB77/KpWHH6nFtJzHQJ6sbm+ylZ0IeuH5YRG1QzQQKHzZR8Y+xY/jC3 8QAeRv/uPVbDS/gvGaA1zB382xN1b0RkZ4v9RVJcHc01VbDP+sLmd7zHRXZ+uuYTSqwU uJFNt3XsZ3OA5g/DoZCDJ/OSacdhl0ghW1gog= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 01:52:59 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: GhjhDxAQH8DcGODk99I1BdY4i4Y Message-ID: Subject: Hand held live streaming video ? To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf300fb0c3282e1204af4af670 Resent-Message-ID: <4_gKt.A.7u.vtMmOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112351 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 23:53:19 +0000 (UTC) --20cf300fb0c3282e1204af4af670 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ive got a project coming up (ok its a gig, but we're trying to be arty and get some funding) that concerns an improvised performance, by my new band the "feedback loop =E9nsemble" While we play a dancer will interpret the music, infrom of a screen, the sceen is prjecting images created live from = a computer, that is reacting to and partly created by the music. The perfomer= s movements are also going to be tracked by a Kinect, and that too will affec= t the images, and also possibly some part of the sound. I digress. The start of the performance is a kind of pied piper experience, The audience will be told taht the gig takes place at a well known experimental music Cafe in Oslo (I took you there once Rick remember?), but the band will NOT be there. The Dance will be, and she will bring the audience through the streets, dancing infront, to the location of the real performance, a warehouse. But I was thinking, and heres the question, aimed at you UStream crazies, o= r any other video streaming solution. Is there anything yet that can run on iPhone??? Cos an enhancement of this idea, is that the audience is told to download a= n app or log in to a url, at the Cafe, and can see the performance space... w= e would start to play, and they would then be lead through the streets to the gig, watching their phones all the time (as most people are anyway!!!) It would be a cool moment, when, over the tinny sound of all the phones, the sound of the band is faintly heard around the corner, and as they enter the room the sound takes over. thought this was a cool idea, but... We=B4re not there with phone streaming video yet.. are we? --=20 *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --20cf300fb0c3282e1204af4af670 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ive got a project coming up (ok its a gig, but we're trying to be arty = and get some funding) that concerns an improvised performance, by my new ba= nd the "feedback loop =E9nsemble" While we play a dancer will int= erpret the music, infrom of a screen, the sceen is prjecting images created= live from a computer, that is reacting to and partly created by the music.= The perfomers movements are also going to be tracked by a Kinect, and that= too will affect the images, and also possibly some part of the sound.

I digress. The start of the performance is a kind of pied piper experie= nce, The audience will be told taht the gig takes place at a well known exp= erimental music Cafe in Oslo (I took you there once Rick remember?), but th= e band will NOT be there. The Dance will be, and she will bring the audienc= e through the streets, dancing infront, to the location of the real perform= ance, a warehouse.

But I was thinking, and heres the question, aimed at you UStream crazie= s, or any other video streaming solution.
Is there anything yet that ca= n run on iPhone???
Cos an enhancement of this idea, is that the audience= is told to download an app or log in to a url, at the Cafe, and can see th= e performance space... we would start to play, and they would then be lead = through the streets to the gig, watching their phones all the time (as most= people are anyway!!!)

It would be a cool moment, when, over the tinny sound of all the phones= ,=A0 the sound of the band is faintly heard around the corner, and as they = enter the room the sound takes over.
thought this was a cool idea, but..= .
We=B4re not there with phone streaming video yet.. are we?



--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
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--20cf300fb0c3282e1204af4af670-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 15 01:10:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDE8F18345F; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 01:10:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=9r0ayTmh6FnyzbauVvxe7C1iNQeCz+NaZZ9CRlJXu/E=; b=tjAwK42oq5kaOr8H293qSf5aFc1AWdBNRXnRbWOAcMC/pqbXprFRGCqJFdItiDc5hT HtKRMl2Fi3DnV7BoDn1vYkV9qjEZ+gHBKgc39dhqj5C/oFKY3ZZDgtcz3XsRyDZSRoJv ZLzSDe8IXOBOK1AVvJdGKwjDJHeo+mKl4nEUo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4E988C91.7010506@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 18:10:31 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 1st Night of the Y2KX+1 LoopFest From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112352 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 01:10:32 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 4:31 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Keep up the reports Rick and Per! And anyone else who is there!! Awlriighta then! Georgina reports that "Staff of Life offers the best food" and I'm bound to agree. Just around the corner from here a totally new building with organic food and even a buffet with hot or cold food to pick into a box of your preferred size. Yummi stuff! We've just eaten that now and will soon go down to the Pearl Alley Studios where Bill Walker is kicking off the Loopfest. Will grab me a huge latte on the way to fully enjoy the evening. People will film and upload from the venue, hopefully. Myself I snagged the venue wifi password yesterday when humping PA stuff down there and I have my ipnone almost on full battery now. So that's looking all good so far.. cheers peers From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 15 01:20:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 06FB118345E; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 01:20:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Fa9W7sZEW7m5cOhxjpfyL2Nc2v8uEAhCQwGaWKTktBw=; b=S07LfW+E2SZQrNk96TstrZk5C9OWdXJF3ZFimBQ/Aoafld1EgkBI9kUVhfe4k6Yihr Wzh2Z4ENWFjL5a0UrYtOscp0owtmmv8EqI53bsL6pnkj2iwz6iDw3pAWiYrbTso5GVzh eVZbON8NLIF4yPmv/W/de0msj8JxLjbhtca70= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4E988C91.7010506@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 21:20:21 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 1st Night of the Y2KX+1 LoopFest From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3071cecc6d320404af4c2de4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112353 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 01:20:21 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3071cecc6d320404af4c2de4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow, sounds all so familiar and wonderful and sorry to not be in the mix this year. It was hard to make the choice of missing but necessary this year. I am glad that #11 came to be and is growing in new ways with new production staff for the years to come. Per hope you can get a live stream out tomorrow but regardless will look fwd to seeing archived moments as soo= n as possible. Best to all of you there and loop one for all of us who are not there. Jim On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 4:31 PM, mark francombe > wrote: > > Keep up the reports Rick and Per! And anyone else who is there!! > > > Awlriighta then! Georgina reports that "Staff of Life offers the best > food" and I'm bound to agree. Just around the corner from here a > totally new building with organic food and even a buffet with hot or > cold food to pick into a box of your preferred size. Yummi stuff! > We've just eaten that now and will soon go down to the Pearl Alley > Studios where Bill Walker is kicking off the Loopfest. Will grab me a > huge latte on the way to fully enjoy the evening. People will film and > upload from the venue, hopefully. Myself I snagged the venue wifi > password yesterday when humping PA stuff down there and I have my > ipnone almost on full battery now. So that's looking all good so far.. > > cheers > peers > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf3071cecc6d320404af4c2de4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow, sounds all so familiar and wonderful and sorry to not be in the mix th= is year. =A0It was hard to make the choice of missing but necessary this ye= ar. =A0I am glad that #11 came to be and is growing in new ways with new pr= oduction staff for the years to come. =A0Per hope you can get a live stream= out tomorrow but regardless will look fwd to seeing archived moments as so= on as possible.

Best to all of you there and loop one for all of us who are = not there.

Jim

O= n Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 4= :31 PM, mark francombe <mark@m= arkfrancombe.com> wrote:
> Keep up the reports Rick and Per! And anyone else who is there!!


Awlriighta then! Georgina reports that "Staff of Life offers the= best
food" and I'm bound to agree. Just around the corner from here a totally new building with organic food and even a buffet with hot or
cold food to pick into a box of your preferred size. Yummi stuff!
We've just eaten that now and will soon go down to the Pearl Alley
Studios where Bill Walker is kicking off the Loopfest. Will grab me a
huge latte on the way to fully enjoy the evening. People will film and
upload from the venue, hopefully. Myself I snagged the venue wifi
password yesterday when humping PA stuff down there and I have my
ipnone almost on full battery now. So that's looking all good so far..<= br>
cheers
peers




--
From Broo= klyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & P= eter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF Int= ernational.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--20cf3071cecc6d320404af4c2de4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 15 01:22:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 06271183460; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 01:22:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ZaOmjjY2fjK6iiNH7YTzg3gs+DLhV6wDUJlmobL0U0k=; b=gfmmjtabMEMcNb0OtZtrmAhtCSDTWvlC5IUlDz2XVGoCFhFMCfCHAr8yhVBOWwKLsW 8XIhddkD7DR0Se2qxB+kPY8WPsc1WhayFihkMwLUppqbyWAKxeIpzWhTUq954MU1/K+4 FEAa1scqUs1P32sHJRiaYGbLkWv9mcg2galYI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 21:22:13 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [No Looping Content] RIP, Bert Jansch From: Todd Lainhart To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307cfd401de03b04af4c34a5 Resent-Message-ID: <5N8RJD.A.7JC.GBOmOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112354 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 01:22:14 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307cfd401de03b04af4c34a5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very nice. On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 3:27 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Cheers Todd, here is the tune i mean i recently recorded > warning: no looping content;-) > > http://soundcloud.com/luis-angulo/el-ni-o > > Luis > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Todd Lainhart > wrote: > > I'm touched to hear that he's had such an impact on other loopers here. > I > > loved Bert's playing, and really miss him. > > -- Todd > > > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Louie Angulo < > louie.angulo@googlemail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> Devastating news...one of my acoustic folk idols i remeber listening > >> to his records in my teen years every night,he has definetly been an > >> influence and i realized that the piece i wrote recently and posted > >> here a few days ago echoes him. > >> I will miss him dearly... > >> Luis > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Dennis Moser > >> wrote: > >> > Rest in peace, Bert Jansch. > >> > > >> > Some of you will recognize the name =E2=80=94 > >> > > >> > > >> > > http://www.holymoly.com/music/video/bert-jansch-dies-aged-67-much-great-g= uitar-player-jimi-hendrix59836 > >> > > >> > ~~D. > >> > > >> > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > >> > http://audiozoloft.com > >> > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> www.luis-angulo.com > >> > > > > > > > > -- > www.luis-angulo.com > > --20cf307cfd401de03b04af4c34a5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very nice.

On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 3:27 A= M, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
Cheers Todd, here is the tune i mean i recently recorded
warning: no looping content;-)

htt= p://soundcloud.com/luis-angulo/el-ni-o

Luis

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Todd Lainhart <tlainhart@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm touched to hear that he's had such an impact on other loop= ers here. =C2=A0I
> loved Bert's playing, and really miss him.
> =C2=A0 -- Todd
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Devastating news...one of my acoustic folk idols i remeber listeni= ng
>> to his records in my teen years every night,he has definetly been = an
>> influence and i realized that the piece i wrote recently and poste= d
>> here a few days ago echoes him.
>> I will miss him dearly...
>> Luis
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Rest in peace, Bert Jansch.
>> >
>> > Some of you will recognize the name =E2=80=94
>> >
>> >
>> > ht= tp://www.holymoly.com/music/video/bert-jansch-dies-aged-67-much-great-guita= r-player-jimi-hendrix59836
>> >
>> > ~~D.
>> >
>> > h= ttp://soundcloud.com/usrsbin
>> > http://a= udiozoloft.com
>> > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> www.luis-= angulo.com
>>
>
>



--
www.luis-angulo.co= m


--20cf307cfd401de03b04af4c34a5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 15 06:26:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CEAFF183460; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 06:26:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=1CbkU2xhYz2dgnO4sQMwz4uUGX0ZJ8qpHL3VHGO/oQ8=; b=m6kBOR74lq1yejUy2eNJuwqbfro07hEaA2A0J9JYmonvuAWeOp7J9srNA57y3Eepzt Xg6Z7K5vKfd3hf8o+gVdcW9u3kKzHFtZMIgCx2MXhx21tkY90t3NJGy3g8GZGaVbu4EJ D40LqI3bUb+gLeWeIQ7jjvqK5ox+Hm1KLVd8I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4E9761C5.7050604@cruzio.com> <20111013181024.11381rv3s1kf56n4@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <5F3C1881-7A96-46C0-A884-C5CAB302AAB7@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 23:26:18 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Interesting critique of Wednesdays' Y2KX+1 show From: Lindsey Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf303bf7929ec4dd04af507378 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112355 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 06:26:20 +0000 (UTC) --20cf303bf7929ec4dd04af507378 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I would tell them, "Yes, please listen carefully." Lindsey On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote: > > Greetings from Bill's Porch > > One of the great respites on planet earth. I love Bill's porch. Its seen > more than a few good guitar pickin sessions. Great to have you as a guest > in Santa Cruz, Mr. Boysen. > > cheers > Daniel > On Oct 14, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > > > I always find it interesting to hear how different people experience > > music. It seems each of us have our personal filtering system ;-) > > However, "avant-garde" was quite surprising here as only Nat's set was > > atonal while all others used melodies and chords as a major > > steppingstone. Maybe the fact that Nat's set was last left it as the > > dominating memory fragment in this person? I also remember that Rick > > joined in with Nat coming walking from behind the audience, a classic > > "avant-garde trick", and that might have triggered some personal bias > > within the listener? > > > > Personally I hope Nat will play similar music on Sunday cuz I'd love > > to hear those exciting sounds on the good system in the better > > acoustic environment of Pearl Alley Studios. See you there, guys. > > > > Greetings from Bill's Porch > > > > Per Boysen > > www.boysen.se > > www.perboysen.com > > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Matthias Grob > wrote: > >> I think I can feel what the guy meant with "conventional" and I think > people > >> who like such music are interested in yours, Kevin > >> but thats just an opinion... > >> On 13 Oct 2011, at 20:10, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: > >> > >> I don't really consider my music to be "avante-garde" however it is > >> unconventional. A festival of "conventional" music would not be > interested > >> in me, anyway. > >> > >> > >> > > > > --20cf303bf7929ec4dd04af507378 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would tell them, "Yes, please listen carefully."

Lindsey=

On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Daniel= Thomas <dani= elthomas4@mac.com> wrote:
> Greetings from Bill&= #39;s Porch

One of the great respites on planet earth. I love Bill's porch. = =A0Its seen more than a few good guitar pickin sessions. =A0Great to have y= ou as a guest in Santa Cruz, Mr. Boysen.

cheers
Daniel
On Oct 14, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Per = Boysen wrote:

> I always find it interesting to hear how different people experience > music. It seems each of us have our personal filtering system ;-)
> However, "avant-garde" was quite surprising here as only Nat= 's set was
> atonal while all others used melodies and chords as a major
> steppingstone. Maybe the fact that Nat's set was last left it as t= he
> dominating memory fragment in this person? I also remember that Rick > joined in with Nat coming walking from behind the audience, a classic<= br> > "avant-garde trick", and that might have triggered some pers= onal bias
> within the listener?
>
> Personally I hope Nat will play similar music on Sunday cuz I'd lo= ve
> to hear those exciting sounds on the good system in the better
> acoustic environment of Pearl Alley Studios. See you there, guys.
>
> Greetings from Bill's Porch
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.c= om
> www.looproom.com= internet music hub
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Matthias Grob <matilists@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I think I can feel what the guy meant with "conventional"= ; and I think people
>> who like such music are interested in yours, Kevin
>> but thats just an opinion...
>> On 13 Oct 2011, at 20:10, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote:
>>
>> I don't really consider my music to be "avante-garde"= ; however it is
>> unconventional. =A0A festival of "conventional" music wo= uld not be interested
>> in me, anyway.
>>
>>
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--20cf303bf7929ec4dd04af507378-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 15 08:19:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D614183461; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 08:19:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E9941FA.8080609@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 04:19:06 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Thought Radio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112356 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 08:19:22 +0000 (UTC) THOUGHT RADIO: http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio ======================================================================= My next stint on Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show, will be Saturday, October 1 at 6 am EDT/GMT-4. I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs in Phase One. I host the show every other week. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 15 09:32:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8107F183464; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 09:32:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 684590312/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.30.65/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.30.65 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmkCAM9RmU5YbR5B/2dsb2JhbAAMN4R2lQqRWAEBAQMBIxVABgsLGgIFFgsCAgkDAgECAUUcARWHZqR1kUmBMIVAgRQEmRGMQA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,350,1315177200"; d="scan'208";a="684590312" Message-ID: <4E99532C.1060903@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 10:32:28 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: 1st Night of the Y2KX+1 LoopFest References: <4E988C91.7010506@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9nXICC.A.KLH.rMVmOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112357 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 09:32:27 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > Awlriighta then! Georgina reports that "Staff of Life offers the best > food" and I'm bound to agree. Santa Cruz is full of great places to eat. (even for a vegan) ...and Streetlights is the place to go for cds. pity Rhythm Fusion closed down tho' :-( andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 15 15:41:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0CDE5183474; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 15:41:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=OHEdPxOrUNn1Z3VMA/uhXt8tmB55SeDVQ1xYbSSwha8=; b=dhM2RfZ99c5guvzfGHkE4QgBRAQBou8pHd7fsSLvbDJIOg15aTvIZJd7aTZykWptOm GM7P6qHLYAvVFIQdZfIZC5YBo4AOwSfdyR4LHLJp9HCLL79pkvPE8J96cqMPc433/hC9 I9kYSUlPx2jxNXxDntAtsKDEQj5IcRHvaOtNw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:41:26 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [No Looping Content] RIP, Bert Jansch From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112358 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 15:41:27 +0000 (UTC) Thanx Todd! cheers Luis On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 3:22 AM, Todd Lainhart wrote: > Very nice. > > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 3:27 AM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> >> Cheers Todd, here is the tune i mean i recently recorded >> warning: no looping content;-) >> >> http://soundcloud.com/luis-angulo/el-ni-o >> >> Luis >> >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Todd Lainhart >> wrote: >> > I'm touched to hear that he's had such an impact on other loopers here= . >> > =A0I >> > loved Bert's playing, and really miss him. >> > =A0 -- Todd >> > >> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Louie Angulo >> > >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Devastating news...one of my acoustic folk idols i remeber listening >> >> to his records in my teen years every night,he has definetly been an >> >> influence and i realized that the piece i wrote recently and posted >> >> here a few days ago echoes him. >> >> I will miss him dearly... >> >> Luis >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Dennis Moser >> >> wrote: >> >> > Rest in peace, Bert Jansch. >> >> > >> >> > Some of you will recognize the name =97 >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > http://www.holymoly.com/music/video/bert-jansch-dies-aged-67-much-g= reat-guitar-player-jimi-hendrix59836 >> >> > >> >> > ~~D. >> >> > >> >> > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin >> >> > http://audiozoloft.com >> >> > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> www.luis-angulo.com >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> www.luis-angulo.com >> > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 16 05:09:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 19B79183463; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 05:09:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Mark Hamburg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: OT: Stereo line/effects loop selector? Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 22:09:50 -0700 Message-Id: To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <9_gOPC.A.AjG.icmmOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112359 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 05:09:54 +0000 (UTC) Can anyone recommend a stereo version of the BOSS LS-2 Line Selector? I = want to take my guitar signal and feed it down two switch selectable = paths but each path eventually splits to stereo and I want to have a = stereo result when I come back through the line selector. Thanks. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 16 09:40:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64AA3183461; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 09:40:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zyf/vHafe+uABSp1QT5hSFXjLy48m1PXEcMYJkndnvI=; b=P4R+4MarWCTXCB+IdNLRcrl+I9eTr2z8IJzlU/IBmVwkAJqnSgS0/ebSHm3UoLbVnH 1VB1zxq6Z5z8YeZ+5kjkzVisQ2Ke1jPzfXOCn2/N5HLBF5lkz+yj84744cS2jSw/mrCV mAoM9I/xfQfCwLrnt3w2enz2S5G1kfFb9vWA8= Message-ID: <4E9AA692.5020903@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 11:40:34 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Looper's Delight Mailing List Subject: Relaunching: RIP (and this time not) Steve Jobs - Dennis, your book is the bible to many! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112360 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 09:40:42 +0000 (UTC) I'm a little confused that a everyone here covered Jobs' death at great lengths, while nobody ever mentioned that Dennis Ritchie recently passed away...then, so be it: the marketing guys always get the girls... -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 16 09:50:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9077183475; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 09:50:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=k8xwis2t12FNzjUJ3CQrdwGzvw+kV2Ooe605sOaPr5g=; b=J3/6h4VmcqeM712uwYDBnf7J2ZybeNEkzCArL0U0y9Fa03km8lmQzM9w7q86ZopSUu oB5yL3hwjJG80zPGNsaNvXXJkvQXr9Zr2IjUBS6DAQXLaefroo9ar72DN+TqKjb9VPlv leh/uxay+xskKtu3qYKstvzVKSn7o8ePAUwFw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4E9AA692.5020903@googlemail.com> References: <4E9AA692.5020903@googlemail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 11:49:53 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: tcgU9oSsUXQPPdhSG10xNZ3EiVM Message-ID: Subject: Re: Relaunching: RIP (and this time not) Steve Jobs - Dennis, your book is the bible to many! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf300fb37bae335a04af676aa8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112361 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 09:50:14 +0000 (UTC) --20cf300fb37bae335a04af676aa8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Possibly because everyone has heard of Steve Jobs, and I have no idea who Dennis Ritchie is LOL Sorry.. enlighten me? On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Rainer Straschill < moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote: > I'm a little confused that a everyone here covered Jobs' death at great > lengths, while nobody ever mentioned that Dennis Ritchie recently passed > away...then, so be it: the marketing guys always get the girls... > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --20cf300fb37bae335a04af676aa8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Possibly because everyone has heard of Steve Jobs, and I have no idea who D= ennis Ritchie is

LOL

Sorry.. enlighten me?

On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googl= email.com> wrote:
I'm a little confused that a everyone h= ere covered Jobs' death at great lengths, while nobody ever mentioned t= hat Dennis Ritchie recently passed away...then, so be it: the marketing guy= s always get the girls...

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http://moinlabs.de
Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs




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www.markfrancombe.com
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http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
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--20cf300fb37bae335a04af676aa8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 16 11:52:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD6DE183462; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 11:52:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=l0AB5sf86HHfF7pQJk7rksuo25MiwxY5pkbA8ppZMDo=; b=PFGyYBIyGAC7Hg3T3c3DWyw55wE9xQ3NcjbKcnCQz33ItWtm9rS+PGA7PRMfy29AF1 JJzN3Dey65XIRAjXHdGsMacPVQvgOcTX1+ISnqbYQGh8KF7YvjnjLtmUzBzq1fwLzi3v yA9vHd2rnTASKZxUsZxQO3+IUL0l62mrTuwLE= Message-ID: <4E9AC563.2080807@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:52:03 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Relaunching: RIP (and this time not) Steve Jobs - Dennis, your book is the bible to many! References: <4E9AA692.5020903@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112362 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 11:52:11 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe schrieb: > Possibly because everyone has heard of Steve Jobs, and I have no idea > who Dennis Ritchie is > > LOL > > Sorry.. enlighten me? Dennis Ritchie was one of the inventors of the C programming language and of UNIX. Also, he wrote the "C bible" , the book "The C Programming Language" (together with Kerninghan - the book is colloquially known as "the K&R"). Like e.g. John Bardeen, Ritchie is one of those guys that nobody knows, but whose inventions were key enablers for a lot of stuff - including the stuff Steve Jobs is famous for. Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 16 11:57:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F083183462; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 11:57:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1B4909DCEB034BEBB0D230C6A1048835@ELUK1> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <4E9AA692.5020903@googlemail.com> <4E9AC563.2080807@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4E9AC563.2080807@googlemail.com> Subject: Re: Relaunching: RIP (and this time not) Steve Jobs - Dennis, your book is the bible to many! Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 12:57:35 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3538.513 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3538.513 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112363 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 11:57:35 +0000 (UTC) Funny that, thanks Rainer. I still have my copies of K&R's book, and "The Elements of C Programming Style", as well as my yellow UNIX C reference. And I haven't programmed actively in over 20 years - but when testing something involving C language, these books assist in telling testing/programming folks more than "It died on line 7"... :) -----Original Message----- From: Rainer Straschill Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 12:52 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Relaunching: RIP (and this time not) Steve Jobs - Dennis, your book is the bible to many! mark francombe schrieb: > Possibly because everyone has heard of Steve Jobs, and I have no idea who > Dennis Ritchie is > > LOL > > Sorry.. enlighten me? Dennis Ritchie was one of the inventors of the C programming language and of UNIX. Also, he wrote the "C bible" , the book "The C Programming Language" (together with Kerninghan - the book is colloquially known as "the K&R"). Like e.g. John Bardeen, Ritchie is one of those guys that nobody knows, but whose inventions were key enablers for a lot of stuff - including the stuff Steve Jobs is famous for. Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 16 13:17:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC355183462; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:17:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 688256047/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.187.139/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.187.139 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgECADzYmk5V0ruL/2dsb2JhbAAMN5oDkhEBBUA9FhgDAgECAWEBvVSICASZEYxA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,354,1315177200"; d="scan'208";a="688256047" Message-ID: <4E9AD950.6090501@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 14:17:04 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT more fun with Yamaha (G50 battery error) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112364 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:17:00 +0000 (UTC) Having a free afternoon I decided to replace the memory backup battery in my Yamaha G50. (Essentially an Axon midi converter unit with Yamaha name). They say "When the backup battery needs to be replaced “BALo” will appear on the display when the power is turned on. When this happens, have the backup battery replaced by qualified Yamaha service personnel. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO REPLACE THE BACKUP BATTERY YOURSELF!" so we're thinking, must be some kind of fancy battery that's soldered in place. Took the top off the unit, there's a common CR2032 in a holder. Flip it out...flip in new battery. No different to changing the battery in a stomp box. I'm wondering at the time and expense of sending it back to the authorised dealer just for that. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 16 14:50:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC3EB183463; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 14:50:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=s73X9Leg4pZfn1EJqtu6fUpQ/XChaQ5HHXrMumIEB00=; b=e9p9EtYbp0bXxHH11Y7Pn0girOn/0cLK+lCIDv3bil4vtFZwUGMtKO70LxFz8Y3qJU njhodgLHk4q44q5gJ8ugrY2mFGslKb5QzRpzr7Pm7MBkMvgvnKF6wAvSjicg+R4fE0/T ZAnXE9iObfyWlE0PCBbGFB/CYcNe2416PqMpY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E9AD950.6090501@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4E9AD950.6090501@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 08:50:48 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT more fun with Yamaha (G50 battery error) From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112365 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 14:50:49 +0000 (UTC) :D =85 "For professional use only! Don't try this at home!" They gotta make their money =85 Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 7:17 AM, andy butler wrote= : > Having a free afternoon I decided to replace the memory backup battery > in my Yamaha G50. (Essentially an Axon midi converter unit with Yamaha > name). > > They say > "When the backup battery needs > to be replaced =93BALo=94 will appear on the display > when the power is turned on. When this happens, have > the backup battery replaced by qualified Yamaha > service personnel. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO REPLACE > THE BACKUP BATTERY YOURSELF!" > > so we're thinking, must be some kind of fancy battery that's > soldered in place. > > Took the top off the unit, there's a common CR2032 in a holder. > Flip it out...flip in new battery. > No different to changing the battery in a stomp box. > > I'm wondering at the time and expense of sending it back to the authorise= d > dealer just for that. > > > > andy > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 16 15:29:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7600F183460; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 15:29:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 351 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 15:29:36 UTC Message-ID: <4E9AF6FC.6050703@theambientping.com> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 11:23:40 -0400 From: PiNG Reply-To: ping@theambientping.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ambient@hyperreal" , Dark Seeds , Drone Deep Chill , Loopers Delight , The Ambient Way Subject: 10.18.11 > The PiNG presents PHOLDE + ODRADEK + GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112366 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 15:29:36 +0000 (UTC) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .10.18.11 . THE AMBiENT PiNG presents VENERA 4 featuring PHOLDE + ODRADEK + GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS @ Supermarket . 268 Augusta Ave . Kensington Market just south of College . Map, info and directions at: http://www.supermarkettoronto.com/site/section/contact Tues. Oct. 18th . Doors open at 8:00 . 1st set at 8:30 . $6 . PHOLDE . Alan Bloor (Pholde aka Knurl) opens the night with a new set of dark metal sonics wrought from his custom sound sculptures of hardened steel. Bowing & striking his unique creations Bloor will take you deep into his subterranean sound world. http://www.pholde.com . ODRADEK . It's been six years since James Bailey, Michelangelo Iaffaldano and Andy Yue improvised up a beautiful sonic storm for us. James is a master at coaxing sound treats from found sources, Michelangelo is a handmade music pioneer and Andy has found a new organic voice from an analog box since he plugged a ribbon controller into his MS20. http://www.myspace.com/odradektoronto . GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS . Stephen Lindsey and Eric Siegerman are back to mesmerize us with their wildly improvised analog projections of evolving light paintings. http://www.generalchaosvisuals.ca . BETWEEN SETS CDs by BRIAN ENO Come early to hear a live recording of the genre-defining album "Music for Airports" performed by BANG ON A CAN in 1998. Later, between sets, the purely instrumental disc of ENO's latest album "Drums Between The Bells" will be featured. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . COMiNG SOON . TUESDAY NOVEMBER 8th 2011 . ASTEROiD 2005 YU55 featuring SylURMTRiBE (Sylken + URM + Arqa Dea Tribe) + SPACENOIZ + Muh-he-con + GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS @ Supermarket . 268 Augusta Ave . Kensington Market just south of College . Map, info and directions at: http://www.supermarkettoronto.com/site/section/contact PiNG doors open at 8 . 1st set at 8:30 . $6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THE AMBiENT PiNG is a Toronto based creative community of audio artists, performers, musicians and visual artists. The PiNG presents live multimedia performances featuring ambient, electronic, soundscape, space, drone, psychedelic, chillout, downtempo, darkwave and experimental artists from around the world. http://www.theambientping.com The PiNG also has a Twitter account to send you advance updates and reminders of the when & where of future PiNG events. Just search for ambientping to find us. http://twitter.com We're also on facebook too, again just search THE AMBiENT PiNG. http://www.facebook.com ViSiT the ping things store for ambient, electronic and chill things: http://www.pingthings.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Please forward this e-mail to any interested friends or appropriate newsgroups. Thanks. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 16 15:32:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E42B1183461; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 15:32:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=b+cgK8Nr9fQvF+BbEVjP83Hi4x5FV8aLCjtuChKw2dc=; b=kP6Yzimf2s9hFmWNHDSezv8ADpknX+j0NaeiZOeGuVdgYwgQ9vRc9nlV2rqWKLsMnE XSfpkZHVzkX6uKnK6PHF9gf62sVxUwrGDeADhTAFeQndCgjItGY6P/8ROsbVXS7Uli8a pvm7SP82f9OZh5XnR4lSmvbRCSBvU91c7MiMs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1B4909DCEB034BEBB0D230C6A1048835@ELUK1> References: <4E9AA692.5020903@googlemail.com> <4E9AC563.2080807@googlemail.com> <1B4909DCEB034BEBB0D230C6A1048835@ELUK1> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 11:32:31 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Relaunching: RIP (and this time not) Steve Jobs - Dennis, your book is the bible to many! From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec502d790e022fb04af6c3288 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112367 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 15:32:32 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec502d790e022fb04af6c3288 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable True of Ritchie's passing. That book was indeed the 'bible' of C. I work with Objective C today pursuing the portable world that is directive off-spring of it. Jim On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > Funny that, thanks Rainer. I still have my copies of K&R's book, and "Th= e > Elements of C Programming Style", as well as my yellow UNIX C reference. = And > I haven't programmed actively in over 20 years - but when testing somethi= ng > involving C language, these books assist in telling testing/programming > folks more than "It died on line 7"... :) > > -----Original Message----- From: Rainer Straschill > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 12:52 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-**delight.com > Subject: Re: Relaunching: RIP (and this time not) Steve Jobs - Dennis, yo= ur > book is the bible to many! > > > mark francombe schrieb: > >> Possibly because everyone has heard of Steve Jobs, and I have no idea wh= o >> Dennis Ritchie is >> >> LOL >> >> Sorry.. enlighten me? >> > Dennis Ritchie was one of the inventors of the C programming language > and of UNIX. Also, he wrote the "C bible" , the book "The C Programming > Language" (together with Kerninghan - the book is colloquially known as > "the K&R"). > > Like e.g. John Bardeen, Ritchie is one of those guys that nobody knows, > but whose inventions were key enablers for a lot of stuff - including > the stuff Steve Jobs is famous for. > > Rainer > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --bcaec502d790e022fb04af6c3288 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable True of Ritchie's passing. =A0That book was indeed the 'bible' = of C. =A0I work with Objective C today pursuing the portable world that is = directive off-spring of it. =A0Jim

On Sun= , Oct 16, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net> w= rote:
Funny that, thanks Rainer. =A0I still have = my copies of K&R's book, and "The Elements of C Programming St= yle", as well as my yellow UNIX C reference. And I haven't program= med actively in over 20 years - but when testing something involving C lang= uage, these books assist in telling testing/programming folks more than &qu= ot;It died on line 7"... :)

-----Original Message----- From: Rainer Straschill
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 12:52 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Relaunching: RIP (and this time not) Steve Jobs - Dennis, your= book is the bible to many!


mark francombe schrieb:
Possibly because everyone has heard of Steve Jobs, and I have no idea who D= ennis Ritchie is

LOL

Sorry.. enlighten me?
Dennis Ritchie was one of the inventors of the C programming language
and of UNIX. Also, he wrote the "C =A0bible" , the book "The= C Programming
Language" (together with Kerninghan - the book is colloquially known a= s
"the K&R").

Like e.g. John Bardeen, Ritchie is one of those guys that nobody knows,
but whose inventions were key enablers for a lot of stuff - including
the stuff Steve Jobs is famous for.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer

--
http://moinlabs.de
Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs



--
= From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Go= odin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will bene= fit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--bcaec502d790e022fb04af6c3288-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 16 15:44:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E1F2183462; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 15:44:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=6DnK9SlspjQUafU6MzYmZAt1wpB1MUaNH28Mo/Kfxqk= c=1 sm=1 a=CXZSKB8osr0A:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:17 a=PhZvuSF-4H0skWeo1ocA:9 a=wLEzLCDf1ZTH2ihJ6eEA:7 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: OT more fun with Yamaha (G50 battery error) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= In-Reply-To: <4E9AD950.6090501@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 08:44:08 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4E9AD950.6090501@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <7k5ksB.A.C_F.KvvmOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112368 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 15:44:10 +0000 (UTC) Andy, Well, if what I have heard is correct from my experience with other = devices that have those little batteries in them, that tiny little = trickle of electricity needs to be constant to preserve the memory in a = chip somewhere. Simply disconnect it and plop in the other one when replacing it and = poof there goes any volitile programming in that chip. Batteries that are soldered in are one sort of problem yes, but ones = that are held in by a clip can be tricky too. I'd be interested in hearing how it goes for you. I have one older piece of gear that does have a soldered-in battery, and = the company that made the device no longer exists. When that goes, I am wondering what I'll do. I happen to have a duplicate device in storage, but that will have the = same "Achilles heel" eventually to it as well.=20 Keep us posted on what you discover. Ted On Oct 16, 2011, at 6:17 AM, andy butler wrote: > Having a free afternoon I decided to replace the memory backup battery > in my Yamaha G50. (Essentially an Axon midi converter unit with Yamaha = name). >=20 > They say > "When the backup battery needs > to be replaced =93BALo=94 will appear on the display > when the power is turned on. When this happens, have > the backup battery replaced by qualified Yamaha > service personnel. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO REPLACE > THE BACKUP BATTERY YOURSELF!" >=20 > so we're thinking, must be some kind of fancy battery that's > soldered in place. >=20 > Took the top off the unit, there's a common CR2032 in a holder. > Flip it out...flip in new battery. > No different to changing the battery in a stomp box. >=20 > I'm wondering at the time and expense of sending it back to the = authorised > dealer just for that. >=20 >=20 >=20 > andy >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 16 16:38:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2E51183461; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 16:38:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 492 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 16:38:33 UTC Message-ID: <18A0AF9B8EB34E7191D06CA3FB887ECD@ccs.local> From: "BC" To: References: <4E9AD950.6090501@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 12:30:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 111016-0, 10/16/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112369 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 16:38:33 +0000 (UTC) I'm sure this has been covered in the past before my time here. Perhaps it's a good thing to take a fresh look at the phenomenon and coping strategies from time to time. What do you do when the creative flow diminishes into a creative drip and then seemingly dries up completely? You sit at your instrument to come up with some new ideas and......nothing! You have a vague sense that your passion is just not there. You might even feel "cludgy" and awkward at the instrument. Aside from letting time pass, would anyone like to share their strategies for minimizing time spent in the creative desert? Brian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 16 16:45:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6FB2B18345D; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 16:45:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=WEDKZaeJE9KQ8D3d0BdMLtEvvW9QseZV6N7PMNTE55c=; b=QCOwG1wdHkJky4+j/T9UYoQMHCiT4uMHBp2UCk1M1YPufwK8O/yI09OG6wqCpkzjCn Veb0+NjYnK/c+nMkmKHJqtIISkE46tthuh1wphAeTebIWDsbJpoAjjTI69/zSfIFctOh qCjUp9eXGjbkRBv9Y76Jr7lXU3pguXosm4vKc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <18A0AF9B8EB34E7191D06CA3FB887ECD@ccs.local> References: <4E9AD950.6090501@tiscali.co.uk> <18A0AF9B8EB34E7191D06CA3FB887ECD@ccs.local> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 18:44:46 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5J6QTFHwwLeXrMo4vAd3NpC8Zno Message-ID: Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf300fb0c36d46e904af6d36f0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112370 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 16:45:07 +0000 (UTC) --20cf300fb0c36d46e904af6d36f0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Buy a new box..! On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 6:30 PM, BC wrote: > I'm sure this has been covered in the past before my time here. Perhaps > it's a good thing to take a fresh look at the phenomenon and coping > strategies from time to time. > > What do you do when the creative flow diminishes into a creative drip and > then seemingly dries up completely? You sit at your instrument to come up > with some new ideas and......nothing! > > You have a vague sense that your passion is just not there. You might even > feel "cludgy" and awkward at the instrument. Aside from letting time pass, > would anyone like to share their strategies for minimizing time spent in the > creative desert? > > Brian > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --20cf300fb0c36d46e904af6d36f0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Buy a new box..!



On Sun, Oct 16, = 2011 at 6:30 PM, BC <compguy2@comcast.net> wrote:
I'm sure this has been covered in the past before my time here. Perhaps= it's a good thing to take a fresh look at the phenomenon and coping st= rategies from time to time.

What do you do when the creative flow diminishes into a creative drip and t= hen seemingly dries up completely? You sit at your instrument to come up wi= th some new ideas and......nothing!

You have a vague sense that your passion is just not there. You might even = feel "cludgy" and awkward at the instrument. Aside from letting t= ime pass, would anyone like to share their strategies for minimizing time s= pent in the creative desert?

Brian



--
Mark Fra= ncombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
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--20cf300fb0c36d46e904af6d36f0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 16 16:54:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09305183465; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 16:54:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=bpy9mBMpy9I3+UK8Jc4/wXKc9NWZp0LKG0Zo5c2IYUE=; b=nOSx9WSrDm41ALvwZ16TvINXaK52mCkI8+6KqbyfUCByqNALU+qMXGBr/FtPuq9S8w DArPqjgmjDDi8LbvP1MeijGKTWLtkuNIwp+e5LQYGki0JA0UwpTnDDgBFgi0gs04zVZE IO+qPETS5wlUpjvEC6nohzxAOAIp2aRLiY8Ug= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4E9AD950.6090501@tiscali.co.uk> <18A0AF9B8EB34E7191D06CA3FB887ECD@ccs.local> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 12:54:43 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec521604fd7bc5e04af6d584f Resent-Message-ID: <2WHO1C.A.1NH.UxwmOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112371 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 16:54:44 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec521604fd7bc5e04af6d584f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I get out Oblique Strategies and take a walk in the park, commune with nature...and then buy a new box!! I am behind on this, thinking a Freeze pedal! :) j On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 12:44 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Buy a new box..! > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 6:30 PM, BC wrote: > >> I'm sure this has been covered in the past before my time here. Perhaps >> it's a good thing to take a fresh look at the phenomenon and coping >> strategies from time to time. >> >> What do you do when the creative flow diminishes into a creative drip and >> then seemingly dries up completely? You sit at your instrument to come up >> with some new ideas and......nothing! >> >> You have a vague sense that your passion is just not there. You might even >> feel "cludgy" and awkward at the instrument. Aside from letting time pass, >> would anyone like to share their strategies for minimizing time spent in the >> creative desert? >> >> Brian >> > > > > -- > *Mark Francombe* > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ > > --bcaec521604fd7bc5e04af6d584f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I get out Oblique Strategies and take a walk in the park, commune with natu= re...and then buy a new box!! I am behind on this, thinking a Freeze pedal!= :)

j

On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 12:= 44 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
Buy a new box..!<= br>


On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 6:30 PM, = BC <compguy2@comcast.net> wrote:
I'm sure this has been covered in the past before my time here. Perhaps= it's a good thing to take a fresh look at the phenomenon and coping st= rategies from time to time.

What do you do when the creative flow diminishes into a creative drip and t= hen seemingly dries up completely? You sit at your instrument to come up wi= th some new ideas and......nothing!

You have a vague sense that your passion is just not there. You might even = feel "cludgy" and awkward at the instrument. Aside from letting t= ime pass, would anyone like to share their strategies for minimizing time s= pent in the creative desert?

Brian



-- Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
<= /font>

--bcaec521604fd7bc5e04af6d584f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 16 16:57:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F24E4183462; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 16:57:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "BC" To: References: <4E9AD950.6090501@tiscali.co.uk> <18A0AF9B8EB34E7191D06CA3FB887ECD@ccs.local> Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 12:56:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007F_01CC8C03.15FB19F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 111016-0, 10/16/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112372 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 16:57:05 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007F_01CC8C03.15FB19F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LOL, definitely been there. I can tell it's not gonna work in this case, = though. I actually meandered through Guitar Center yesterday and didn't = get that usual thrill from the thought of a new toy. That goes to show = how desperate I am! ;) Brian ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mark francombe=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 12:44 PM Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? Buy a new box..! ------=_NextPart_000_007F_01CC8C03.15FB19F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
LOL, definitely been there. I can tell = it's not=20 gonna work in this case, though. I actually meandered through Guitar = Center=20 yesterday and didn't get that usual thrill from the thought of a new = toy. That=20 goes to show how desperate I am!  ;)
 
Brian
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mark=20 francombe
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 = 12:44=20 PM
Subject: Re: What do YOU do = when=20 creativity dries up?

Buy a new box..! ------=_NextPart_000_007F_01CC8C03.15FB19F0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 16 17:00:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FBB2183473; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 17:00:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "BC" To: References: <4E9AD950.6090501@tiscali.co.uk><18A0AF9B8EB34E7191D06CA3FB887ECD@ccs.local> Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 12:59:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0089_01CC8C03.7F4B65E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 111016-0, 10/16/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112373 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 17:00:06 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0089_01CC8C03.7F4B65E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm thinking I should go to church, pray, fast, and then.... buy a new = box! Hmm... I'll have to look at that Freeze pedal again. I remember seeing a = vid on that and meant to go back to it. Brian ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jeff Duke=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 12:54 PM Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? I get out Oblique Strategies and take a walk in the park, commune with = nature...and then buy a new box!! I am behind on this, thinking a Freeze = pedal! :) j=20 On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 12:44 PM, mark francombe = wrote: Buy a new box..! ------=_NextPart_000_0089_01CC8C03.7F4B65E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm thinking I should go to church, = pray, fast, and=20 then.... buy a new box!
 
Hmm... I'll have to look at that Freeze = pedal=20 again. I remember seeing a vid on that and meant to go back to = it.
 
Brian
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jeff Duke=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 = 12:54=20 PM
Subject: Re: What do YOU do = when=20 creativity dries up?

I get out Oblique Strategies and take a walk in the = park,=20 commune with nature...and then buy a new box!! I am behind on this, = thinking a=20 Freeze pedal! :)

j

On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 12:44 PM, mark = francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>=20 wrote:
Buy a new = box..!
------=_NextPart_000_0089_01CC8C03.7F4B65E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 16 17:01:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51F8A183473; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 17:01:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <4E9AD950.6090501@tiscali.co.uk> <18A0AF9B8EB34E7191D06CA3FB887ECD@ccs.local> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? In-Reply-To: <18A0AF9B8EB34E7191D06CA3FB887ECD@ccs.local> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Patrick Bishop X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CE5A3C6B069A64_1708_BC699_webmail-m050.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 34188-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CE5A3C6AF8521E-1708-4F2CD@webmail-m050.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [69.183.241.38] Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:01:44 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 1:2:398421088:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 1 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338e4e9b0df80632 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112374 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 17:01:47 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CE5A3C6B069A64_1708_BC699_webmail-m050.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I play an instrument other than my primary, which is guitar. I have a bass,= baritone, keyboard, assorted percussion instruments, and harmonicas. Somet= hing usually sparks something.=20 PJ -----Original Message----- From: BC To: Loopers-Delight Sent: Sun, Oct 16, 2011 8:38 am Subject: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? I'm sure this has been covered in the past before my time here. Perhaps it'= s=20 a good thing to take a fresh look at the phenomenon and coping strategies= =20 from time to time. What do you do when the creative flow diminishes into a creative drip and= =20 then seemingly dries up completely? You sit at your instrument to come up= =20 with some new ideas and......nothing! You have a vague sense that your passion is just not there. You might even= =20 feel "cludgy" and awkward at the instrument. Aside from letting time pass,= =20 would anyone like to share their strategies for minimizing time spent in th= e=20 creative desert? Brian=20 =20 ----------MB_8CE5A3C6B069A64_1708_BC699_webmail-m050.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" I p= lay an instrument other than my primary, which is guitar. I have a bass, ba= ritone, keybo= ard, assorted percussion instruments, and harmonicas. Something usually spa= rks something 

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----------MB_8CE5A3C6B069A64_1708_BC699_webmail-m050.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 16 17:12:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1492183474; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 17:12:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_26bc6d39-567f-48f9-85b9-b694b6315265_" X-Originating-IP: [86.172.198.36] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 17:11:58 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <4E9AD950.6090501@tiscali.co.uk> ,<18A0AF9B8EB34E7191D06CA3FB887ECD@ccs.local>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Oct 2011 17:11:59.0090 (UTC) FILETIME=[B6D41520:01CC8C26] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112375 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 17:12:00 +0000 (UTC) --_26bc6d39-567f-48f9-85b9-b694b6315265_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It might then be time for some Oblique Strategies.. http://www.rtqe.net/ObliqueStrategies/OSintro.html Peace and creativity=2C Gareth From: mark@markfrancombe.com Date: Sun=2C 16 Oct 2011 18:44:46 +0200 Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Buy a new box..! On Sun=2C Oct 16=2C 2011 at 6:30 PM=2C BC wrote: I'm sure this has been covered in the past before my time here. Perhaps it'= s a good thing to take a fresh look at the phenomenon and coping strategies= from time to time. What do you do when the creative flow diminishes into a creative drip and t= hen seemingly dries up completely? You sit at your instrument to come up wi= th some new ideas and......nothing! You have a vague sense that your passion is just not there. You might even = feel "cludgy" and awkward at the instrument. Aside from letting time pass= =2C would anyone like to share their strategies for minimizing time spent i= n the creative desert? Brian=20 --=20 Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.comwww.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ = --_26bc6d39-567f-48f9-85b9-b694b6315265_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It might then be time for some Oblique Strategies..

http://www= .rtqe.net/ObliqueStrategies/OSintro.html


Peace= and creativity=2C

Gareth


From: mark@markfrancombe.com
Date: Sun=2C 16 Oct 2011 18:44:= 46 +0200
Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up?
To: Lo= opers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Buy a new box..!



On Sun=2C Oct 16=2C 2011 at 6:30 PM=2C BC <=3Bcompguy2@comcast= .net>=3B wrote:
I'm sure this has been covered in the past before my time here. Perhaps it'= s a good thing to take a fresh look at the phenomenon and coping strategies= from time to time.

What do you do when the creative flow diminishes into a creative drip and t= hen seemingly dries up completely? You sit at your instrument to come up wi= th some new ideas and......nothing!

You have a vague sense that your passion is just not there. You might even = feel "cludgy" and awkward at the instrument. Aside from letting time pass= =2C would anyone like to share their strategies for minimizing time spent i= n the creative desert?

Brian



--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/

= --_26bc6d39-567f-48f9-85b9-b694b6315265_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 16 17:12:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 61B7918348D; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 17:12:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <541296A475834B8B90C89B78C2533865@ELUK1> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <4E9AD950.6090501@tiscali.co.uk> <18A0AF9B8EB34E7191D06CA3FB887ECD@ccs.local> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 18:12:04 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01CC8C2F.1C1B3B40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3538.513 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3538.513 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112376 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 17:12:07 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01CC8C2F.1C1B3B40 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_001A_01CC8C2F.1C1B3B40" ------=_NextPart_001_001A_01CC8C2F.1C1B3B40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Read or listen to someone else=E2=80=99s work. Like Jon Anderson sings, = =E2=80=9CDon=E2=80=99t surround yourself with yourself..=E2=80=9D=20 From: mark francombe=20 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 5:44 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? Buy a new box..! On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 6:30 PM, BC wrote: I'm sure this has been covered in the past before my time here. = Perhaps it's a good thing to take a fresh look at the phenomenon and = coping strategies from time to time. What do you do when the creative flow diminishes into a creative drip = and then seemingly dries up completely? You sit at your instrument to = come up with some new ideas and......nothing! You have a vague sense that your passion is just not there. You might = even feel "cludgy" and awkward at the instrument. Aside from letting = time pass, would anyone like to share their strategies for minimizing = time spent in the creative desert? Brian=20 --=20 Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ ------=_NextPart_001_001A_01CC8C2F.1C1B3B40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Read or listen to someone else=E2=80=99s work.  Like Jon = Anderson sings,=20 =E2=80=9CDon=E2=80=99t surround yourself with yourself..=E2=80=9D
 
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries=20 up?
 
Buy=20 a new box..!



On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 6:30 PM, BC <compguy2@comcast.net> = wrote:
I'm sure this has been covered in the past before my = time=20 here. Perhaps it's a good thing to take a fresh look at the phenomenon = and=20 coping strategies from time to time.

What do you do when the = creative=20 flow diminishes into a creative drip and then seemingly dries up = completely?=20 You sit at your instrument to come up with some new ideas=20 and......nothing!

You have a vague sense that your passion is = just not=20 there. You might even feel "cludgy" and awkward at the instrument. = Aside from=20 letting time pass, would anyone like to share their strategies for = minimizing=20 time spent in the creative desert?

Brian =


--
Mark=20 Francombe

www.markfrancombe.comwww.ordoabkhao.comhttp://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
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To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112377 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 18:14:45 +0000 (UTC) The first song that comes to mind (which fits at least some of the description) is The Who's 'Love Reign O'er Me'. It's got the (acoustic) piano playing fast at the beginning, the string section, and the word Loooooooooove!. Roger Daltrey as an AfroAmerican? Not so much of a stretch IMO... Stephen At me an interesting question. I search for one song. Style evrodance. The afroamerican sings. Not Sonique, no! In the song beginning plays The electronic piano, keys quickly play. Then plays ensemble of electronic violins. A song electronic, dancing. The afroamerican sings a powerful voice: Looo oooove!... You beee o-o... Looo oooo ve... You bee o... I badly remember the Refrain. Like so: You bee ooo. O-o! Iii in my go home! Iii in my go home!..... Looo oooove! (play piano) You beee o-o... Looo oooove! You bee o-o... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 16 19:17:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CAFD18345F; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 19:17:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Relaunching: RIP (and this time not) Steve Jobs - Dennis, your book is the bible to many! Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Mark Hamburg X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <1B4909DCEB034BEBB0D230C6A1048835@ELUK1> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 12:17:17 -0700 Cc: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <48FA30EC-2868-464E-9A31-A62303824155@grubmah.com> References: <4E9AA692.5020903@googlemail.com> <4E9AC563.2080807@googlemail.com> <1B4909DCEB034BEBB0D230C6A1048835@ELUK1> To: "Stephen Goodman" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112378 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 19:17:21 +0000 (UTC) Besides general awareness of their existence, one explanation for the = relative attention paid to Jobs's death v Ritchie's is that UNIX and C = and date from the 1970's. Jobs was still actively driving Apple forward. = I think the reaction around Jobs's death would have been different if he = were just being remembered as the co-founder of Apple. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 16 19:21:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50314183464; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 19:21:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Relaunching: RIP (and this time not) Steve Jobs - Dennis, your book is the bible to many! From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <4E9AA692.5020903@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 12:21:00 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4BD35A63-495B-4F34-AFC7-3DA37F4DF3A3@grubmah.com> References: <4E9AA692.5020903@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112379 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 19:21:03 +0000 (UTC) On Oct 16, 2011, at 2:40 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > so be it: the marketing guys always get the girls... I knew Steve Jobs. He was far more than a "marketing guy". He had a = depth of understanding around technology, design, and how people use = computers that this sort of remark entirely ignores. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 16 19:22:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09A04183462; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 19:22:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Relaunching: RIP (and this time not) Steve Jobs - Dennis, your book is the bible to many! Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Mark Hamburg X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <1B4909DCEB034BEBB0D230C6A1048835@ELUK1> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 12:22:35 -0700 Cc: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4E9AA692.5020903@googlemail.com> <4E9AC563.2080807@googlemail.com> <1B4909DCEB034BEBB0D230C6A1048835@ELUK1> To: "Stephen Goodman" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112380 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 19:22:37 +0000 (UTC) On Oct 16, 2011, at 4:57 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > Funny that, thanks Rainer. I still have my copies of K&R's book, and = "The Elements of C Programming Style", as well as my yellow UNIX C = reference. And I haven't programmed actively in over 20 years - but when = testing something involving C language, these books assist in telling = testing/programming folks more than "It died on line 7"... :) K & R remains one of the best books on programming ever written. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 16 19:27:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74BF1183462; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 19:27:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=vD8a5MKLFqwqmZ49XBH0mUiR8noOFCuDTeLStBK1Dh8=; b=d+Md8Aqps7LUR864xGkjLQ1tAQCjk7JLYKmjMhQfqJ7qP189/SP9lMta31HZvmXCS9 R6EC67XuJgjkRZmKsDYr/1ubJtvZIb65OckGVRM3DY6hM8jQXEFTgTvGbkoOHWQl8hKY OdoKhkMkKAPMTLMI3mD+DHC3oq0HwompgthB8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CE5A3C6AF8521E-1708-4F2CD@webmail-m050.sysops.aol.com> References: <4E9AD950.6090501@tiscali.co.uk> <18A0AF9B8EB34E7191D06CA3FB887ECD@ccs.local> <8CE5A3C6AF8521E-1708-4F2CD@webmail-m050.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 15:27:31 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec52157254ba0cf04af6f7b5f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112381 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 19:27:33 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec52157254ba0cf04af6f7b5f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Good one, this is something I have done recently. I got a little LPK 25 keyboard controller and have been using it with a laptop running various vst soft synth/noise making doodads. Great fun :) I even gave it it's own looper (eh 2880)! peace, j On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Patrick Bishop wrote: > I play an instrument other than my primary, which is guitar. I have a bass, > baritone, keyboard, assorted percussion instruments, and harmonicas. > Something usually sparks something. > > [image: :-)]PJ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BC > To: Loopers-Delight > Sent: Sun, Oct 16, 2011 8:38 am > Subject: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? > --bcaec52157254ba0cf04af6f7b5f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good one, this is something I have done recently. I got a little LPK 25 key= board controller and have been using it with a laptop running various vst s= oft synth/noise making doodads. Great fun :) I even gave it it's own lo= oper (eh 2880)!
peace, j


On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 1:01= PM, Patrick Bishop <pjbmhb@aol.com> wrote:
I play an instrument o= ther than my primary, which is guitar. I have a bass, baritone,= keyboard, assorted percussion instruments, and harmonicas. Som= ething usually sparks something.=A0

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--bcaec52157254ba0cf04af6f7b5f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 16 21:10:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42E44183464; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 21:10:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=zMtLP+nfKJt576PWi20e8ZkDdyF6KwRu+QyAXT0x5tM=; b=uY/j0soyMwSrBFEiblQm8pAYeExZQ6u89C9QWyjQ7vN/zIjw1TJPH3hTQdcsdWeeJc kL4s52pFyLucMeovVmjvEpQwnMxfd7f0EqvHAZ4+UEmimkWh78A+iuw+iObFUVeCbIrl iVXJki9nJtEltQcDJaIAQqFiIHwpnYIclzt3E= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4E9AD950.6090501@tiscali.co.uk> <18A0AF9B8EB34E7191D06CA3FB887ECD@ccs.local> <8CE5A3C6AF8521E-1708-4F2CD@webmail-m050.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 14:10:45 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112382 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 21:10:46 +0000 (UTC) Something different. Whatever that feels more inspiring than the "dried out" project. From recording my work I have found that the result is not always "bad" just because you feel "uninspired" when creating it. It is actually possible to practice and improve creativity just as any other activity, like circular breathing, sweep picking, speed racing or gardening. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 16 21:40:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EBD8E183462; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 21:40:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_28095ffb-9859-4e8f-bc14-af829b045f19_" X-Originating-IP: [98.232.194.119] From: Joe Clark To: Subject: RE: LP-2 Mini Looper Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 14:40:11 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4E9398C2.1000305@cruzio.com> References: <017201cc87aa$e1939f40$a4baddc0$@michaelplishka.com>,<4E9398C2.1000305@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Oct 2011 21:40:13.0307 (UTC) FILETIME=[2FBAB4B0:01CC8C4C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112383 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 21:40:14 +0000 (UTC) --_28095ffb-9859-4e8f-bc14-af829b045f19_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good god I hope so=2C I (and many others) have been waiting patiently for a= very long time! > Date: Mon=2C 10 Oct 2011 18:15:46 -0700 > From: looppool@cruzio.com > To: mike@michaelplishka.com > CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: LP-2 Mini Looper >=20 > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM=2C mike@michaelplishka.com wrote: > > Anyone have any ideas on: > > 1. Release > > 2. Best price > > >=20 > I'm thinking within the next four weeks and it is a fixed price > at $300.00 available through www.looperlative.com >=20 > Rick Walker >=20 = --_28095ffb-9859-4e8f-bc14-af829b045f19_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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= --_28095ffb-9859-4e8f-bc14-af829b045f19_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 16 21:40:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 632AE18345F; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 21:40:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <05D8199BEDC94BB6BB416B9C3DCFABC0@itowork2> From: "Ingo Ito" To: References: <18A0AF9B8EB34E7191D06CA3FB887ECD@ccs.local> Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 23:39:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0059_01CC8C5C.DFF83F90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112384 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 21:40:56 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01CC8C5C.DFF83F90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Brian, I had this situation many times and established some sort of "catalogue" = for me, what could be done against this: 1. Oblique Strategies - always a good first choice. 2. As a guitarist, try different tunings, especially ones, which you = never have tried before. 3. Listen to some of your old stuff, which you never have continued, = because at that time you didn=B4t had any ideas for it - maybe now=B4s = the time. 4. Establish a "Composing Hour", which means that every day at the same = time (that=B4s best, though different times of the day also work), you = sit with all your equipment (guitars, keyboards, computer, software, = boxes - all that you have) and force yourself to DO something for one = hour - then stop and don=B4t think about the music until you sit there = again the next day. When you have a new idea, just record a short sketch = of it. Keep away from starting arrangements, into deep sound tweaking = etc. - keep it fast and simple and move on to sth. else. There might be = little to none output at the beginning, but the continuity of = everyday=B4s working rhythm will get you on the track again. After one = month you listen to your recorded material and then start to add more = arrangements, sounds etc. (I got this idea from a very good book on this = subject: "The Art & Craft of Writing Music" by Matthew Nicholl, = http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/art-and-craft-of-writing-music/1607= 1216 , which was originally recommended by Robert Fripp) 5. Read a book. Try subjects that are not your favourite crime reading = etc., but sth. new to you. 6. Go to the cinema. Try films that are less action and more to = contemplate about afterwards. 7. Go to a concert. Especially with music, that is not your favourite = band, but somebody you just have read about in the papers or sb. had = told you it=B4s interesting. 8. Go to a museum or exhibition. If you have talent in doing sketches, = take some paper with you and try to make a sketch of one piece of art, = which you liked very much. Put this sketch on the wall where you work on = your music. Let it inspire you, watch it while you play your instrument, = let your musical thoughts meander into every possible direction and do a = simple recording of what you play 9. Leave all your musical stuff completely untouched for at least one = week (or two, or three...) and DON=B4T worry about it. 10. Okay....buy a box ;-). This one looks interesting, too: = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dj7-f-t28GOM&feature=3DBFa&list=3DPLA548F= E27426F8D8C&lf=3Dmh_lolz Hope this helps a bit :-) Cheers Ingo Ingo Ito www.itofarm.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: BC=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 6:30 PM Subject: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? I'm sure this has been covered in the past before my time here. = Perhaps it's=20 a good thing to take a fresh look at the phenomenon and coping = strategies=20 from time to time. What do you do when the creative flow diminishes into a creative drip = and=20 then seemingly dries up completely? You sit at your instrument to come = up=20 with some new ideas and......nothing! You have a vague sense that your passion is just not there. You might = even=20 feel "cludgy" and awkward at the instrument. Aside from letting time = pass,=20 would anyone like to share their strategies for minimizing time spent = in the=20 creative desert? Brian=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01CC8C5C.DFF83F90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Brian,
 
I had this situation many times and = established some=20 sort of "catalogue" for me, what could be done against = this:
 
1. Oblique Strategies - always a good first=20 choice.
2. As a guitarist, try different tunings, = especially=20 ones, which you never have tried before.
3. Listen to some of your = old stuff, which you=20 never have continued, because at that time you didn=B4t had any ideas = for it -=20 maybe now=B4s the time.
4. Establish a "Composing Hour", which means = that every=20 day at the same time (that=B4s best, though different times of the day = also work),=20 you sit with all your equipment (guitars, keyboards, computer, software, = boxes -=20 all that you have) and force yourself to DO something for one hour - = then stop=20 and don=B4t think about the music until you sit there again the = next day.=20 When you have a new idea, just record a short sketch of it. Keep away = from=20 starting arrangements, into deep sound tweaking etc. - keep it fast and = simple=20 and move on to sth. else. There might be little to none output at the = beginning,=20 but the continuity of everyday=B4s working rhythm will get you on the = track again.=20 After one month you listen to your recorded material and then start = to add=20 more arrangements, sounds etc. (I got this idea from a very good = book on=20 this subject: "The Art & Craft of Writing Music" by Matthew Nicholl, = http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/art-and-craft-of-writ= ing-music/16071216 ,=20 which was originally recommended by Robert Fripp)
5. Read a book. Try subjects that are not your = favourite=20 crime reading etc., but sth. new to you.
6. Go to the cinema. Try films that are less = action and=20 more to contemplate about afterwards.
7. Go to a concert. Especially with music, = that is not=20 your favourite band, but somebody you just have read about in the papers = or sb.=20 had told you it=B4s interesting.
8. Go to a museum or exhibition. If you have = talent in=20 doing sketches, take some paper with you and try to make a sketch of one = piece=20 of art, which you liked very much. Put this sketch on the wall where you = work on=20 your music. Let it inspire you, watch it while you play your instrument, = let=20 your musical thoughts meander into every possible direction and do a = simple=20 recording of what you play
9. Leave all your musical stuff completely = untouched for=20 at least one week (or two, or three...) and DON=B4T worry about = it.
10. Okay....buy a box ;-). This one looks = interesting,=20 too: http://www.youtube.com/watc= h?v=3Dj7-f-t28GOM&feature=3DBFa&list=3DPLA548FE27426F8D8C&lf=3D= mh_lolz
 
Hope this helps a bit :-)
 
Cheers
 
Ingo
 
 
Ingo Ito
www.itofarm.com
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 BC
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 = 6:30=20 PM
Subject: What do YOU do when = creativity=20 dries up?

I'm sure this has been covered in the past before my = time here.=20 Perhaps it's
a good thing to take a fresh look at the phenomenon = and=20 coping strategies
from time to time.

What do you do when = the=20 creative flow diminishes into a creative drip and
then seemingly = dries up=20 completely? You sit at your instrument to come up
with some new = ideas=20 and......nothing!

You have a vague sense that your passion is = just not=20 there. You might even
feel "cludgy" and awkward at the instrument. = Aside=20 from letting time pass,
would anyone like to share their = strategies for=20 minimizing time spent in the
creative desert?

Brian=20
------=_NextPart_000_0059_01CC8C5C.DFF83F90-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 16 22:22:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA1F3183461; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 22:22:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=vNAK4X1eclKJuOk34hXE5Q7ctZC3xMbR2eQoWd0Q1SQ=; b=DK6CeAkwTyAljKOKGr6eRd4DE9EKDc9Msb9MvxCGQ4hztTU2lpcOxoJMqJpsBxFVwr XUwq03O7EETka4hTeRon/RRCQrzLKuBdpyl3+GYR4IP0R8giA84AHX+iNx5ckFd1HwMQ 81VyPIbGPk/Es/sZ/hNqDDl0+m5vAMJ2dBcf8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4E9AA692.5020903@googlemail.com> <4E9AC563.2080807@googlemail.com> <1B4909DCEB034BEBB0D230C6A1048835@ELUK1> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 18:22:43 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Relaunching: RIP (and this time not) Steve Jobs - Dennis, your book is the bible to many! From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Stephen Goodman Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec547ccd1e15e2a04af71ed13 Resent-Message-ID: <-yqSgD.A.uHF.0k1mOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112385 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 22:22:44 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec547ccd1e15e2a04af71ed13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nice observations Mark. Btw did you make it to any of the fest this weekend= , performing? Hope so, I stayed home this year. Best Jim On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > On Oct 16, 2011, at 4:57 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > > > Funny that, thanks Rainer. I still have my copies of K&R's book, and > "The Elements of C Programming Style", as well as my yellow UNIX C > reference. And I haven't programmed actively in over 20 years - but when > testing something involving C language, these books assist in telling > testing/programming folks more than "It died on line 7"... :) > > K & R remains one of the best books on programming ever written. > > Mark > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --bcaec547ccd1e15e2a04af71ed13 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nice observations Mark. Btw did you make it to any of the fest this weekend= , performing? =A0Hope so, I stayed home this year. =A0Best Jim

On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com>= wrote:
On Oct 16, 2011, at 4:57 = AM, Stephen Goodman wrote:

> Funny that, thanks Rainer. =A0I still have my copies of K&R's = book, and "The Elements of C Programming Style", as well as my ye= llow UNIX C reference. And I haven't programmed actively in over 20 yea= rs - but when testing something involving C language, these books assist in= telling testing/programming folks more than "It died on line 7".= .. :)

K & R remains one of the best books on programming ever written.<= br>
Mark




--
Fr= om Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit J= DRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--bcaec547ccd1e15e2a04af71ed13-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 17 08:36:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A64A183460; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 08:36:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=xDuW/+jzIkgD0cBGTToppSf7BdehhY4MvYroF5ERjTg=; b=jlVD1aNcg6LkBfc6Dt+XnnMaDl5qD2Hkzvo65117PLcL7ODg3WTVIxfttYULBJXtZt EMz3hmKlIUdhKYkHX6/zjMLj8oLLMHRj9Nv/IWyi+MTW/dwTCfuXQ5Fo27PGslhGO06Z eMozrGseX4hm9kEbaTlIN2R4JTpRY0s9AJBsU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <05D8199BEDC94BB6BB416B9C3DCFABC0@itowork2> References: <18A0AF9B8EB34E7191D06CA3FB887ECD@ccs.local> <05D8199BEDC94BB6BB416B9C3DCFABC0@itowork2> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:36:27 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? From: andy soto To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015173fef08c447e904af7a807f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112386 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 08:36:30 +0000 (UTC) --0015173fef08c447e904af7a807f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Be interested in EVERYTHING. Inspiration can come from every aspect of life. Andy On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Ingo Ito wrote: > ** > Hi Brian, > > I had this situation many times and established some sort of "catalogue" > for me, what could be done against this: > > 1. Oblique Strategies - always a good first choice. > 2. As a guitarist, try different tunings, especially ones, which you neve= r > have tried before. > 3. Listen to some of your old stuff, which you never have continued, > because at that time you didn=B4t had any ideas for it - maybe now=B4s th= e time. > 4. Establish a "Composing Hour", which means that every day at the same > time (that=B4s best, though different times of the day also work), you si= t > with all your equipment (guitars, keyboards, computer, software, boxes - = all > that you have) and force yourself to DO something for one hour - then sto= p > and don=B4t think about the music until you sit there again the next day.= When > you have a new idea, just record a short sketch of it. Keep away from > starting arrangements, into deep sound tweaking etc. - keep it fast and > simple and move on to sth. else. There might be little to none output at = the > beginning, but the continuity of everyday=B4s working rhythm will get you= on > the track again. After one month you listen to your recorded material and > then start to add more arrangements, sounds etc. (I got this idea from a > very good book on this subject: "The Art & Craft of Writing Music" by > Matthew Nicholl, > http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/art-and-craft-of-writing-music/1607= 1216 , > which was originally recommended by Robert Fripp) > 5. Read a book. Try subjects that are not your favourite crime reading > etc., but sth. new to you. > 6. Go to the cinema. Try films that are less action and more to contempla= te > about afterwards. > 7. Go to a concert. Especially with music, that is not your favourite ban= d, > but somebody you just have read about in the papers or sb. had told you i= t=B4s > interesting. > 8. Go to a museum or exhibition. If you have talent in doing sketches, ta= ke > some paper with you and try to make a sketch of one piece of art, which y= ou > liked very much. Put this sketch on the wall where you work on your music= . > Let it inspire you, watch it while you play your instrument, let your > musical thoughts meander into every possible direction and do a simple > recording of what you play > 9. Leave all your musical stuff completely untouched for at least one wee= k > (or two, or three...) and DON=B4T worry about it. > 10. Okay....buy a box ;-). This one looks interesting, too: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dj7-f-t28GOM&feature=3DBFa&list=3DPLA548F= E27426F8D8C&lf=3Dmh_lolz > > Hope this helps a bit :-) > > Cheers > > Ingo > > > Ingo Ito > www.itofarm.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* BC > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Sunday, October 16, 2011 6:30 PM > *Subject:* What do YOU do when creativity dries up? > > I'm sure this has been covered in the past before my time here. Perhaps > it's > a good thing to take a fresh look at the phenomenon and coping strategies > from time to time. > > What do you do when the creative flow diminishes into a creative drip and > then seemingly dries up completely? You sit at your instrument to come up > with some new ideas and......nothing! > > You have a vague sense that your passion is just not there. You might eve= n > feel "cludgy" and awkward at the instrument. Aside from letting time pass= , > would anyone like to share their strategies for minimizing time spent in > the > creative desert? > > Brian > > --0015173fef08c447e904af7a807f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

=A0Be interested in EVERYTHING.

=A0Inspiration can come from= every aspect of life.

=A0Andy

On = Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Ingo Ito <ingoito@itofarm.com> wrote:
Hi Brian,
=A0
I had this situation many times and established= some=20 sort of "catalogue" for me,=A0what could be done against this:
=A0
1. Oblique Strategies - always a good first=20 choice.
2. As a guitarist, try different tunings, espec= ially=20 ones, which you never have tried before.
3. Listen to some of your old=A0stuff,=A0which = you=20 never have continued, because at that time you didn=B4t had any ideas for i= t -=20 maybe now=B4s the time.
4. Establish a "Composing Hour", whic= h means that every=20 day at the same time (that=B4s best, though different times of the day also= work),=20 you sit with all your equipment (guitars, keyboards, computer, software, bo= xes -=20 all that you have) and force yourself to DO something for one hour - then s= top=20 and don=B4t think about the music=A0until you sit there again the next day.= =20 When you have a new idea, just record a short sketch of it. Keep away from= =20 starting arrangements, into deep sound tweaking etc. - keep it fast and sim= ple=20 and move on to sth. else. There might be little to none output at the begin= ning,=20 but the continuity of everyday=B4s working rhythm will get you on the track= again.=20 After one month you=A0listen to your recorded material and then start to ad= d=20 more arrangements, sounds etc. (I got this idea from a very=A0good book on= =20 this subject: "The Art & Craft of Writing Music" by Matthew N= icholl, http://www.lulu.com/product/paperb= ack/art-and-craft-of-writing-music/16071216=A0,= =20 which was originally recommended by Robert Fripp)
5. Read a book. Try subjects that are not your = favourite=20 crime reading etc., but sth. new to you.
6. Go to the cinema. Try films that are less ac= tion and=20 more to contemplate about afterwards.
7. Go to a concert. Especially with music, that= is not=20 your favourite band, but somebody you just have read about in the papers or= sb.=20 had told you it=B4s interesting.
8. Go to a museum or exhibition. If you have ta= lent in=20 doing sketches, take some paper with you and try to make a sketch of one pi= ece=20 of art, which you liked very much. Put this sketch on the wall where you wo= rk on=20 your music. Let it inspire you, watch it while you play your instrument, le= t=20 your musical thoughts meander into every possible direction and do a simple= =20 recording of what you play
9. Leave all your musical stuff completely unto= uched for=20 at least one week (or two, or three...) and DON=B4T worry about it.<= /div>
=A0
Hope this helps a bit :-)
=A0
Cheers
=A0
Ingo
=A0
=A0
Ingo Ito
=A0
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 BC
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 6:30= =20 PM
Subject: What do YOU do when creati= vity=20 dries up?

I'm sure this has been covered in the past before my t= ime here.=20 Perhaps it's
a good thing to take a fresh look at the phenomenon = and=20 coping strategies
from time to time.

What do you do when the= =20 creative flow diminishes into a creative drip and
then seemingly drie= s up=20 completely? You sit at your instrument to come up
with some new ideas= =20 and......nothing!

You have a vague sense that your passion is just= not=20 there. You might even
feel "cludgy" and awkward at the inst= rument. Aside=20 from letting time pass,
would anyone like to share their strategies f= or=20 minimizing time spent in the
creative desert?

Brian=20

--0015173fef08c447e904af7a807f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 17 09:16:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B96D183462; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:16:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:16:10 UTC Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 11:09:28 +0200 (CEST) From: Andi Mathoy Reply-To: a.mathoy@aon.at To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <26554538.2731.1318842568497.JavaMail.root@WARSBL213.highway.telekom.at> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: 80.109.152.66 X-Mailer: aon Webmail Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112387 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:16:11 +0000 (UTC) STANDSTILL CAN BE SEEN AS AN IMPORTANT PART OF PROGRESSION. this keeps me away from putting too much pressure on myself. in fact it is very exciting to be totally empty, because that means that something is coming up, you don=C2=B4t know what it is, but anything can break into that vacuum at any time, in the meantime you can relax or work hard, just as you prefer... andi From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 17 09:22:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAA43183460; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:22:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TjIb8KgjuJvaLFJpupxey4IV2w6uJyKpiJ79DXvTJgQ=; b=FIlRxdsLZXgccaZLxAPEaQFUYszLPzwjOIi1ELNWmHy825IF/cJcMDaL/C5d0h6/pg TIExjdXuFz9iqokaQmJkCBYQ0f5tP1sK1Ix7XMkMKvJx7bevZnxxz4QMqvJtcp/tf4r/ yKO9sooCQvHuaGJrtSg5Bskgz0AyNfwf7Jieo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <26554538.2731.1318842568497.JavaMail.root@WARSBL213.highway.telekom.at> References: <26554538.2731.1318842568497.JavaMail.root@WARSBL213.highway.telekom.at> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:22:38 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112388 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:22:38 +0000 (UTC) all good advice i fell into a similar situation some years ago and found my way out by simply doing some work. the music is in you, it's always in you and it's always available to you. it's the higher parts of our minds that "block" us. i found by simply making a start on something, i was able to unlock the door and let the creative process take over. the most important thing is not to worry about it, i think. the more you worry and the more pressure you put on yourself, the harder it will be to escape. sim On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Andi Mathoy wrote: > > STANDSTILL CAN BE SEEN AS AN IMPORTANT PART OF PROGRESSION. > this keeps me away from putting too much pressure on myself. > > in fact it is very exciting to be totally empty, > because that means that something is coming up, > you don=B4t know what it is, > but anything can break into that vacuum at any time, > in the meantime you can relax or work hard, just as you prefer... > > andi > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 17 11:48:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54F80183466; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 11:48:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020209.4E9C1607.00D3,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=XdbPDGv6iT76Ln+URUviy1cMTZ8Xsv+LLtHm2N5DBds= c=1 sm=1 a=9_NOgyVLwEwA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:17 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=I1F7wcboYD1JmwcEIcEA:9 a=0ktDFfJtImdDF9D_Vp4A:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=hfMOuKFDpboA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Clayton Gary Lehmann" To: References: <26554538.2731.1318842568497.JavaMail.root@WARSBL213.highway.telekom.at> Subject: RE: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 04:48:19 -0700 Message-ID: <4AA86AEE31E14C259F00BE5512C33D9A@your0548c161e1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Thread-Index: AcyMrlOAhbSxeR40ToquhrZnXWgcCgAFEUfg Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112389 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 11:48:25 +0000 (UTC) Hehe-- Pretend you're creative 8) -----Original Message----- From: Simeon Harris [mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com]=20 Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 2:23 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? all good advice i fell into a similar situation some years ago and found my way out by simply doing some work. the music is in you, it's always in you and it's always available to you. it's the higher parts of our minds that "block" us. i found by simply making a start on something, i was able to unlock the door and let the creative process take over. the most important thing is not to worry about it, i think. the more you worry and the more pressure you put on yourself, the harder it will be to escape. sim On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Andi Mathoy wrote: > > STANDSTILL CAN BE SEEN AS AN IMPORTANT PART OF PROGRESSION. > this keeps me away from putting too much pressure on myself. > > in fact it is very exciting to be totally empty, > because that means that something is coming up, > you don=B4t know what it is, > but anything can break into that vacuum at any time, > in the meantime you can relax or work hard, just as you prefer... > > andi > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 17 13:13:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 445FA18345D; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:13:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=BQXRMimYPL72rGozIGAL8W2lrlEDovcij2vG7PQOUnI=; b=ViJ2Y2wkEZI1jaqBwCp1ZD4/LOModOmckjUcKdBhjVCa5gGrscc7emtDHT6Q6XBc3b 0keXMaz2a5W6tPY4urzdUosW8FfuxIfdNzCE0MgZEIoO7+CMA5/W7RBs2NPxIYLFgsCa 5hTdkL/KHEqVHCbkIDSuGXvSaSDxLIU7f+Kdk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <26554538.2731.1318842568497.JavaMail.root@WARSBL213.highway.telekom.at> References: <26554538.2731.1318842568497.JavaMail.root@WARSBL213.highway.telekom.at> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:12:53 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: _8KoInmU4tbmgN45-lDgT8S_z6Q Message-ID: Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30051280806c5704af7e5eda Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112390 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:13:14 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30051280806c5704af7e5eda Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Andi Mathoy wrote: > STANDSTILL CAN BE SEEN AS AN IMPORTANT PART OF PROGRESSION. > this keeps me away from putting too much pressure on myself. > ABSOLUTELY!!! I can see this to be true, in the way I treat my kids. I let them get bored!!!! So many of my friends are constantly fussing and setting up "activities" for them to do, during the weekend, after school... "Oh its so important that they participate and are constantly engaged, thats how they learn!" BULLSHIT!! My son mopes about for a few minutes and comes to me and says "I'm bored!" I say, "Go and make up something to do.." 2 hours later, he comes and shows me some fantastically creative thing he's, built, painted, drawn, made. As a result, my friends are always complaining that their kids are so demanding and take up so much time, what with all their "activities", I say Oh yeah, and casually glance over at Nikolas who has drawn the 35th level for his computer game that hes going to build one day, complete with crocodiles, spaceships and pirates, or sometimes I have to say "Nikolas can you turn down that music you are making with my kaos pad, Im on the phone!" OR more often than not.. "Nikolas... NIKOLAS!! Where are you?" The reply comes... "HELP DAD, Ive BEEN Captured by dangerous man-eating towels in the bathroom... Come and save me!! But mind the lava in the hallway!!!" Boredom... A great creativity sparker! M -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --20cf30051280806c5704af7e5eda Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Andi Mathoy <a.mathoy@aon.at> wrote:
STANDSTILL CAN BE SEEN AS AN IMPORTANT PART OF PROGRESSION.
this keeps me away from putting too much pressure on myself.

ABSOLUTELY!!!

I can see this to be true,=A0 in the way= I treat my kids. I let them get bored!!!!

So many of my friends are= constantly fussing and setting up "activities" for them to do, d= uring the weekend, after school...
"Oh its so important that they participate and are constantly engaged,= thats how they learn!"

BULLSHIT!!

My son mopes about fo= r a few minutes and comes to me and says "I'm bored!" I say,<= br> "Go and make up something to do.."

2 hours later, he comes= and shows me some fantastically creative thing he's, built, painted, d= rawn, made.

As a result, my friends are always complaining that thei= r kids are so demanding and take up so much time, what with all their "= ;activities", I say Oh yeah, and casually glance over at Nikolas who h= as drawn the 35th level for his computer game that hes going to build one d= ay, complete with crocodiles, spaceships and pirates, or sometimes I have t= o say "Nikolas can you turn down that music you are making with my kao= s pad, Im on the phone!" OR more often than not.. "Nikolas... NIK= OLAS!! Where are you?" The reply comes... "HELP DAD, Ive BEEN Cap= tured by dangerous man-eating towels in the bathroom... Come and save me!! = But mind the lava in the hallway!!!"

Boredom...

A great creativity sparker!

M



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www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
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--20cf30051280806c5704af7e5eda-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 17 13:24:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABDCD183462; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:24:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-WhiteListed: mail was accepted with no delay X-WhiteListed: mail was accepted with no delay X-Originating-IP: 217.70.178.143 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter15-d.gandi.net X-Originating-IP: 101.1.199.41 Message-ID: <4E9C2ACF.2080006@m3ch.net> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 22:17:03 +0900 From: Dust Bunnies User-Agent: Postbox 2.5.2 (Macintosh/20110802) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? References: <26554538.2731.1318842568497.JavaMail.root@WARSBL213.highway.telekom.at> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <015o2D.A.gNH.kyCnOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112391 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:24:52 +0000 (UTC) On 10/17/11 6:22 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > all good advice > > i fell into a similar situation some years ago and found my way out by > simply doing some work. the music is in you, it's always in you and > it's always available to you. I've used most of the techniques already mentioned; many successfully, some not. Similar to Simeon's suggestion, there's one more (slightly dangerous?) method that I've used when hitting a creative brick wall: keep working... and working, and working, and working.... I'll force myself to continue bashing and bashing away at a composition, even though I feel creatively spent. It may take another 3 or 4 or 5 hours straight, but eventually I'll reach a point at which something inspiring comes up. At that point, the creative process gets kickstarted and continues from there. I'll probably get another couple hours of good creative work done. The next morning, I'll be able to look at what I've got and be inspired by it enough to continue working creatively. I think that, as Sim mentioned, the music is always in you. In my case, it's merely a matter of beating the crap out of the creative block until it finally gives up from sheer exhaustion, and the music flows out again. Another possibility that occurred to me this moment... I've not used it to break a creative block, but there have been times where I've taken an instrument into the bedroom and laid back on the bed, relaxing while plunking away. There's some rather interesting stuff that comes out by playing in an automatic, half-awake/half-napping state. That might be useful to try when attempting to bust through a block. --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 17 13:56:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1066B183462; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:56:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E9C33ED.8090002@soundscapes.us> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:55:57 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Thought Radio Playlist for October 15, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112392 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:56:00 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2011/111015.html The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EDT/GMT-4 on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. http://soundscapes.us/afterglow Show #209 October 15, 2011. Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Steve Roach Air and Light Quiet Music (Projekt) Steve Brand Avatara Avatara (Hypnos) Paul Ellis The Infinite, From Out of the Vast Comes Minute By Minute Nearness (Lotuspike) Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Bob Kilgore Metamorphosis 1 Metamorphoses (Weaseltrap) Bob Kilgore Metamorphosis 2 Metamorphoses (Weaseltrap) M.K.Sol Beautiful Mind The Guild/Days of Sorrow (none) Trinity Love's Purest Light Music for Angels (A.D. Music) Christopher O'Riley Pohadka Shuffle.Play.Listen (Oxingale) and Matt Haimovitz Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Genesis The Knife Live (Atlantic) Magenta Arrival Home (F2 Music) IZZ Can't Feel the The Darkened Room (Doone) Earth, Part II Hugh Hopper The Gift of Purpose The Gift of Purpose (Cuneiform) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill Fox ======================================================================== Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EDT/GMT-4. Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music. Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Website - http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 17 14:12:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C55AF183463; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:12:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=aiER34ALlgu5oMLPdoY6mhkRvAlVw0mA2ezT33bt3RA=; b=fhAvXAyZeJOfq7OH4PRbWPOaJjROizr/MGz9NgTgGSnHIQem3sDBLgrC9RpOyw4Vi2 VEELuZiiXscoikPfMWDJqzOB9QaCgK4bzCrRJgYkCTwV+1aaXJSQoqfVMlc6RmW0Xa8z 2/kPg5t/aB/w396On+Y6gQkmybbunQHTJLFTA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4E9AA692.5020903@googlemail.com> <4E9AC563.2080807@googlemail.com> <1B4909DCEB034BEBB0D230C6A1048835@ELUK1> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:12:44 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Relaunching: RIP (and this time not) Steve Jobs - Dennis, your book is the bible to many! From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d044472c1665b0d04af7f33b5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112393 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:12:45 +0000 (UTC) --f46d044472c1665b0d04af7f33b5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > On Oct 16, 2011, at 4:57 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > > > Funny that, thanks Rainer. I still have my copies of K&R's book, and > "The Elements of C Programming Style", as well as my yellow UNIX C > reference. And I haven't programmed actively in over 20 years - but when > testing something involving C language, these books assist in telling > testing/programming folks more than "It died on line 7"... :) > > K & R remains one of the best books on programming ever written. > > Mark > > My copy of K&R is dog-eared and coffee stained and has seen more use than all of the other programming books I own combined. -- -==-=-=- Tony --f46d044472c1665b0d04af7f33b5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Mark Ha= mburg <mark@grubma= h.com> wrote:
On Oct 16, 2011, at 4:57 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote:

> Funny that, thanks Rainer. =A0I still have my copies of K&R's = book, and "The Elements of C Programming Style", as well as my ye= llow UNIX C reference. And I haven't programmed actively in over 20 yea= rs - but when testing something involving C language, these books assist in= telling testing/programming folks more than "It died on line 7".= .. :)

K & R remains one of the best books on programming ever written.<= br>
Mark


My copy of K&R is dog-eared and coffee st= ained and has seen more use than all of the other programming books I own c= ombined.


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--f46d044472c1665b0d04af7f33b5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 17 14:30:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C23C518345C; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:30:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 915259.20177.bm@omp1040.mail.bf1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1318861853; bh=oMZ5Oq8lmOF1KroTX6HNvrtvhECTVzfiIP0aUsbbsXY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WuqLud4dzAINTkBWPvHPXIj3JyQae4ouQurjBw4k5hudfYVPGSO4oa3oHWPfj4ciJjpR8hlvObip3dd6QGNIJ3IEeNgc5WOKd+4i851V/Dsbx3isr6Qz4mcqmfs1wQIrSLyCWtReqcqBE6eJG7W4mNCduocjd2FRQZ0of4v1iFI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XOU9oKwab6A3KpZrOj51ISPZiSnet3ftJkEHPQRJZVqrEcw5xAsINr0wxWLnh6NXFT+sys6uIqXsy52+5AGjBpJd4640sY5Pirsy9reNYxk/LHr64efAiVyTPqyAT/yQiklkoERqN66AcRTip5WXIolHGSF6cBRxh5w3Wiqbn6Q=; X-YMail-OSG: vWBWOEcVM1mMmnZV66inVP.dtxMuj9GSNXUsAdqA96pm50G 8UB3Z0zId9TAUUQeCiKR57oSx54D.5NB9mljnyPP6cbMzjXg_b4_VQ5qC4o9 u6Nydv3zbjR6dWLAGzNmS4YoU_TOF38fW.qhfa.MsSG1tVzmRFzVbEcf2jju zPL2fn76hGH60FnY1t8y.CDTqQTcQzCOvJ.weHSMbl5Ppcmd7OG08GjbWv8D 2EnShS8ZEoW04WOQHkoXWD_QF_Ydp2olpYO9sK9owCSAdgn6JLggq3iXTnlG reLrnlvZT8qhimTYsmae4UYIL8ipzL3z_cIhEnha8mtXyaGrw2QBhM2jwoOt 5YJnW272L_NrOsRtWsiahbfC.2PfASD4vFx.z3t7Nu8eK9FVLOaET2docnqq VCaMPh9mbK9r_TBiVnCgBm7EIWKXtNeLkhoHmfozbqgZUOChCfXWZKbx.0lH sOxj142AABfKUfmaQgfbb4mAPQjMK0fWQivndqkx4gF0A8TM3lKAVMeVWHwB 7h1GLb656a_utHukZqtdJJH3owDbLZ2gthfz.bh4G6CUJcLseug9OXX.TUwM .qRiR35i2s1_Uf07UeOvH3a8uSo1G4EiBAmv5ZmBZ2uEU0.9IPncXKFt4dMR 3uMvoVVKrww19iT2Yi0cipmV3Lq4XDmozr3OZlfMmPTY7P82IkphZzY_T9FI r3UCd.02QVqTllsyPYJA3ihspJzrsaqavCzQ5aW8S._Yggdk._Dl6.SPba5S WnNLA.lg16o3y_Q-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.114.317681 References: <26554538.2731.1318842568497.JavaMail.root@WARSBL213.highway.telekom.at> Message-ID: <1318861853.79467.YahooMailNeo@web32506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 07:30:53 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Reply-To: bill bigrig Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-1118611504-2132490959-1318861853=:79467" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112394 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:30:54 +0000 (UTC) ---1118611504-2132490959-1318861853=:79467 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy, =0A=0AWhen in doubt, plagiarize. I do it all the time. The thing is,= it never comes out sounding like what I'm snitching, because I'm n= ot good enough to coppy other's work note for note. Therefore, a new co= mposition. =0ARig=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: mark fra= ncombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>=0ATo: loopers-delight <Loopers-Del= ight@loopers-delight.com>=0ASent: Monday, October 17, 2011 6:12 AM=0ASub= ject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up?=0A=0A=0AOn Mon, Oct 17, = 2011 at 11:09 AM, Andi Mathoy <a.mathoy@aon.at> wrote:=0A=0ASTANDSTIL= L CAN BE SEEN AS AN IMPORTANT PART OF PROGRESSION.=0A>this keeps me away= from putting too much pressure on myself.=0AABSOLUTELY!!!=0A=0AI can see t= his to be true,=A0 in the way I treat my kids. I let them get bored!!!!=0A= =0ASo many of my friends are constantly fussing and setting up "activi= ties" for them to do, during the weekend, after school...=0A"Oh i= ts so important that they participate and are constantly engaged, thats how= they learn!"=0A=0ABULLSHIT!!=0A=0AMy son mopes about for a few minute= s and comes to me and says "I'm bored!" I say,=0A"Go and= make up something to do.."=0A=0A2 hours later, he comes and shows me = some fantastically creative thing he's, built, painted, drawn, made.=0A= =0AAs a result, my friends are always complaining that their kids are so de= manding and take up so much time, what with all their "activities"= ;, I say Oh yeah, and casually glance over at Nikolas who has drawn the 35t= h level for his computer game that hes going to build one day, complete wit= h crocodiles, spaceships and pirates, or sometimes I have to say "Niko= las can you turn down that music you are making with my kaos pad, Im on the= phone!" OR more often than not.. "Nikolas... NIKOLAS!! Where are= you?" The reply comes... "HELP DAD, Ive BEEN Captured by dangero= us man-eating towels in the bathroom... Come and save me!! But mind the lav= a in the hallway!!!"=0A=0ABoredom...=0A=0AA great creativity sparker!= =0A=0AM=0A=0A=0A=0A-- =0AMark Francombe=0Awww.markfrancombe.com=0Awww.ordoa= bkhao.com=0Ahttp://vimeo.com/user825094=0Ahttp://www.looop.no/=0Atwitter @m= arkfrancombe=0Ahttp://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ ---1118611504-2132490959-1318861853=:79467 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy,=0D
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When in doubt, plagiarize. I do it all the time. T= he thing is, it never comes out sounding like what I'm snitching, becau= se I'm not good enough to coppy other's work note for note. Therefo= re, a new composition.=0D
Rig

From:<= /span> mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
To: loopers-delight <Loopers-Delight@= loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 6:12 AM
Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up?
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On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Andi = Mathoy <a.mathoy@aon.at<= /a>> wrote:
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STANDSTILL CAN BE SEEN AS AN= IMPORTANT PART OF PROGRESSION.
=0Athis keeps me away from putting too m= uch pressure on myself.

ABSOLUTELY!!!

I = can see this to be true,=A0 in the way I treat my kids. I let them get bore= d!!!!

So many of my friends are constantly fussing and setting up &q= uot;activities" for them to do, during the weekend, after school...=0A=0A=0A"Oh its so important that they participate and are constantl= y engaged, thats how they learn!"

BULLSHIT!!

My son mope= s about for a few minutes and comes to me and says "I'm bored!&quo= t; I say,
=0A=0A=0A"Go and make up something to do.."

2= hours later, he comes and shows me some fantastically creative thing he= 9;s, built, painted, drawn, made.

As a result, my friends are always= complaining that their kids are so demanding and take up so much time, wha= t with all their "activities", I say Oh yeah, and casually glance= over at Nikolas who has drawn the 35th level for his computer game that he= s going to build one day, complete with crocodiles, spaceships and pirates,= or sometimes I have to say "Nikolas can you turn down that music you = are making with my kaos pad, Im on the phone!" OR more often than not.= . "Nikolas... NIKOLAS!! Where are you?" The reply comes... "= HELP DAD, Ive BEEN Captured by dangerous man-eating towels in the bathroom.= .. Come and save me!! But mind the lava in the hallway!!!"
=0A=0A= =0A
Boredom...

A great creativity sparker!

M



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www.markfrancom= be.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
=0A=0A=0Ahttp:/= /vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.n= o/
=0A=0A=0Atwitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478= 662@N00/

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---1118611504-2132490959-1318861853=:79467-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 17 15:13:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A16CC183463; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:13:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 487 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:13:47 UTC Message-ID: <700CFB5507B049B18C3EC0F04411310C@ccs.local> From: "BC" To: References: <4E9AD950.6090501@tiscali.co.uk> ,<18A0AF9B8EB34E7191D06CA3FB887ECD@ccs.local>, Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 11:03:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BE_01CC8CBC.6C3B7D00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 111016-1, 10/16/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112395 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:13:47 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01CC8CBC.6C3B7D00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ah, I had run across Oblique Strategies before and forgot about it. I just found an Android App for OS and I'm installing it now. Thanks for = the tip. Brian ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gareth Whittock=20 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 1:11 PM Subject: RE: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? It might then be time for some Oblique Strategies.. http://www.rtqe.net/ObliqueStrategies/OSintro.html Peace and creativity, Gareth ------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01CC8CBC.6C3B7D00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ah, I had run across Oblique Strategies before = and forgot=20 about it.
 
I just found an Android App for OS and I'm = installing it=20 now. Thanks for the tip.
 
Brian
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Gareth Whittock
To: loopers-delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 = 1:11=20 PM
Subject: RE: What do YOU do = when=20 creativity dries up?

It might then be time for some Oblique Strategies..

http://www.rt= qe.net/ObliqueStrategies/OSintro.html


Peace and creativity,

Gareth
------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01CC8CBC.6C3B7D00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 17 15:14:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A13FD183462; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:14:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <11A450A619FB41B3A7B9EFDBF0EC2913@ccs.local> From: "BC" To: References: <18A0AF9B8EB34E7191D06CA3FB887ECD@ccs.local> <05D8199BEDC94BB6BB416B9C3DCFABC0@itowork2> Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 11:14:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D4_01CC8CBD.E293DAF0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 111016-1, 10/16/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112396 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:14:16 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D4_01CC8CBD.E293DAF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ingo, that post is actually print-worthy. Great ideas from you, and from all. I have a bunch of musical "sketches" = in MasterWriter and I think I'll go back and visit them. I really like your idea of letting a piece of art inspire you. Brian ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ingo Ito=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 5:39 PM Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? Hi Brian, I had this situation many times and established some sort of = "catalogue" for me, what could be done against this: 1. Oblique Strategies - always a good first choice. 2. As a guitarist, try different tunings, especially ones, which you = never have tried before. 3. Listen to some of your old stuff, which you never have continued, = because at that time you didn=B4t had any ideas for it - maybe now=B4s = the time. 4. Establish a "Composing Hour", which means that every day at the = same time (that=B4s best, though different times of the day also work), = you sit with all your equipment (guitars, keyboards, computer, software, = boxes - all that you have) and force yourself to DO something for one = hour - then stop and don=B4t think about the music until you sit there = again the next day. When you have a new idea, just record a short sketch = of it. Keep away from starting arrangements, into deep sound tweaking = etc. - keep it fast and simple and move on to sth. else. There might be = little to none output at the beginning, but the continuity of = everyday=B4s working rhythm will get you on the track again. After one = month you listen to your recorded material and then start to add more = arrangements, sounds etc. (I got this idea from a very good book on this = subject: "The Art & Craft of Writing Music" by Matthew Nicholl, = http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/art-and-craft-of-writing-music/1607= 1216 , which was originally recommended by Robert Fripp) 5. Read a book. Try subjects that are not your favourite crime reading = etc., but sth. new to you. 6. Go to the cinema. Try films that are less action and more to = contemplate about afterwards. 7. Go to a concert. Especially with music, that is not your favourite = band, but somebody you just have read about in the papers or sb. had = told you it=B4s interesting. 8. Go to a museum or exhibition. If you have talent in doing sketches, = take some paper with you and try to make a sketch of one piece of art, = which you liked very much. Put this sketch on the wall where you work on = your music. Let it inspire you, watch it while you play your instrument, = let your musical thoughts meander into every possible direction and do a = simple recording of what you play 9. Leave all your musical stuff completely untouched for at least one = week (or two, or three...) and DON=B4T worry about it. 10. Okay....buy a box ;-). This one looks interesting, too: = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dj7-f-t28GOM&feature=3DBFa&list=3DPLA548F= E27426F8D8C&lf=3Dmh_lolz Hope this helps a bit :-) Cheers Ingo ------=_NextPart_000_00D4_01CC8CBD.E293DAF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ingo, that post is actually=20 print-worthy.
 
Great ideas from you, and from all. I = have a bunch=20 of musical "sketches" in MasterWriter and I think I'll go back and visit = them.
 
I really like your idea of letting a = piece of art=20 inspire you.
 
Brian
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ingo Ito=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 = 5:39=20 PM
Subject: Re: What do YOU do = when=20 creativity dries up?

Hi Brian,
 
I had this situation many times and = established some=20 sort of "catalogue" for me, what could be done against = this:
 
1. Oblique Strategies - always a good first=20 choice.
2. As a guitarist, try different tunings, = especially=20 ones, which you never have tried before.
3. Listen to some of your = old stuff, which=20 you never have continued, because at that time you didn=B4t had any = ideas for it=20 - maybe now=B4s the time.
4. Establish a "Composing Hour", which means = that=20 every day at the same time (that=B4s best, though different times of = the day=20 also work), you sit with all your equipment (guitars, keyboards, = computer,=20 software, boxes - all that you have) and force yourself to DO = something for=20 one hour - then stop and don=B4t think about the music until you = sit there=20 again the next day. When you have a new idea, just record a short = sketch of=20 it. Keep away from starting arrangements, into deep sound tweaking = etc. - keep=20 it fast and simple and move on to sth. else. There might be little to = none=20 output at the beginning, but the continuity of everyday=B4s working = rhythm will=20 get you on the track again. After one month you listen to your = recorded=20 material and then start to add more arrangements, sounds etc. (I got = this idea=20 from a very good book on this subject: "The Art & Craft of = Writing=20 Music" by Matthew Nicholl, http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/art-and-craft-of-writ= ing-music/16071216 ,=20 which was originally recommended by Robert Fripp)
5. Read a book. Try subjects that are not = your=20 favourite crime reading etc., but sth. new to you.
6. Go to the cinema. Try films that are less = action=20 and more to contemplate about afterwards.
7. Go to a concert. Especially with music, = that is not=20 your favourite band, but somebody you just have read about in the = papers or=20 sb. had told you it=B4s interesting.
8. Go to a museum or exhibition. If you have = talent in=20 doing sketches, take some paper with you and try to make a sketch of = one piece=20 of art, which you liked very much. Put this sketch on the wall where = you work=20 on your music. Let it inspire you, watch it while you play your = instrument,=20 let your musical thoughts meander into every possible direction and do = a=20 simple recording of what you play
9. Leave all your musical stuff completely = untouched=20 for at least one week (or two, or three...) and DON=B4T worry about=20 it.
10. Okay....buy a box ;-). This one looks = interesting,=20 too: http://www.youtube.com/watc= h?v=3Dj7-f-t28GOM&feature=3DBFa&list=3DPLA548FE27426F8D8C&lf=3D= mh_lolz
 
Hope this helps a bit :-)
 
Cheers
 
Ingo
------=_NextPart_000_00D4_01CC8CBD.E293DAF0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 17 15:15:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12A8F183475; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:15:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "BC" To: References: <4E9AD950.6090501@tiscali.co.uk> <18A0AF9B8EB34E7191D06CA3FB887ECD@ccs.local> <8CE5A3C6AF8521E-1708-4F2CD@webmail-m050.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 11:15:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00EB_01CC8CBE.086ABEB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 111016-1, 10/16/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112397 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:15:18 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00EB_01CC8CBE.086ABEB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Excellent idea. I was actually setting myself up to do just that. I'm = setting up my keyboard controller now to fire whatever I can conjure up = in Sonar X1. We already have a "Wandering Madman", so I'll be shooting for the = "Blundering Madman" position. I'm definitely going to switch my composing to other instruments, and = just work on some technical stuff on guitar. I have a lick-ass, totally = off the rails version of "Mystery Train" that I've been working on for 2 = years now. Lol, I'm glad I just caught that typo but I'll leave it in = for your reading displeasure. Brian ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Patrick Bishop=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 1:01 PM Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? I play an instrument other than my primary, which is guitar. I have a = bass, baritone, keyboard, assorted percussion instruments, and = harmonicas. Something usually sparks something. ------=_NextPart_000_00EB_01CC8CBE.086ABEB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Excellent idea. I was actually setting = myself up to=20 do just that. I'm setting up my keyboard controller now to fire whatever = I can=20 conjure up in Sonar X1.
 
We already have a "Wandering Madman", = so I'll be=20 shooting for the "Blundering Madman" position.
 
I'm definitely going to switch my = composing to=20 other instruments, and just work on some technical stuff on guitar. I = have a=20 lick-ass, totally off the rails version of "Mystery Train" that I've = been=20 working on for 2 years now. Lol, I'm glad I just caught that = typo but I'll leave it in for your reading=20 displeasure.
 
Brian
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Patrick = Bishop
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 = 1:01=20 PM
Subject: Re: What do YOU do = when=20 creativity dries up?

I play an instrument other than = my primary,=20 which is guitar. I have a bass, baritone, = keyboard, assorted percussion = instruments,=20 and harmonicas. Something usually sparks something
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------=_NextPart_000_00EB_01CC8CBE.086ABEB0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 17 15:34:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2585C183461; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:34:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:34:01 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kevinkissinger.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=Miifapd1EE6MKSt1WAy6b5UA2ZUk9HFlBxduNtMPl3c=; b=refMK0l+uXa4IPoh3sxhXiJNw8CcyEmpSeckYDOS+IHz3S3hs0kCC9LD2eHLhFl7zo5NKvZ7HhM95ykjPMNDxUISHu5hmuIU7GwqRRmlPEEmTv0lw2ErsIG8JJEtW0E4; Message-ID: <20111017102721.81430dlg0kk2ovvd@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:27:21 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? References: <4E9AD950.6090501@tiscali.co.uk> <18A0AF9B8EB34E7191D06CA3FB887ECD@ccs.local> In-Reply-To: <18A0AF9B8EB34E7191D06CA3FB887ECD@ccs.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3.9) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: <6nNY5.A._0B.prEnOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112398 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:34:02 +0000 (UTC) Quoting BC : > > Would anyone like to share their strategies for minimizing time > spent in the creative desert? > In pondering this question, I've concluded that my normal state is to lack energy and motivation for music. I have a love-hate relationship with music in the sense that if I'm in my studio I'm not doing something else -- particularly when the weather is great and I want to be outoors. The only thing that I do consistantly is to play a Navajo flute and I just play it to relax. The thing that stands between me and music-making is fear and associated negative feelings. Some automatic thoughts are triggered: . Will my equipment work when I turn it on or will I end up spending the entire session troubleshooting or otherwise frustrating myself? . Will I end up listening to a passage repeatedly while unable to add anything to the work? . Will I, after a few hours, walk away feeling as though I wasted the time? . Is this even worth the time and effort? ... what underlies all of these questions is fear -- the fear of failure. Sometimes the fear is debilitating -- I don't even walk into the studio. I don't want to face it or think about it. To clean up and re-arrange the studio's equipment and furniture helps me to overcome the fear. Also, to test/calibrate the equipment helps, too. Then I may just pose little experiments -- i.e. (what happens if I connect gadget 'b' to gadget 'f' or some non-standard configuration. I keep an external recorder (a ML9600) "hot" and ready to record, too. In other words, I have to distract myself from negative thoughts with some kind of action -- even if it is just to pull out a vacuum cleaner and clean stuff up. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 17 17:01:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 23CE418345C; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:01:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7ytMAVSFD614uxGtE9KwirPrnvgxS347mEUlhMPTI24=; b=BF0URnIdTvhMV2nH9lfO9zY+XNfMltO2xGqgx4ooSy3b/I749+Ik6KLPXwFntyyp1j Ol/PuYFktP9GoZv1uOJCdGqDx3FO+EwHFSiaXiwokhL4g7YwsFfVF8Wv3N2PDqKD+9pc Qmy7c0X3we+gr6SvGGxkHywJ9+E8U7eFa95rQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20111017102721.81430dlg0kk2ovvd@mail.kevinkissinger.com> References: <4E9AD950.6090501@tiscali.co.uk> <18A0AF9B8EB34E7191D06CA3FB887ECD@ccs.local> <20111017102721.81430dlg0kk2ovvd@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 18:01:48 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112399 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:01:49 +0000 (UTC) yes, this reminds me me of "gumption traps" described in zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance (i guess 90% of people here have probably read this book, but if you haven't, go get a copy and read it right away). minimising gumption traps is an important part of allowing creative freedom and should be tackled - preferably when you're not intending to actually do some recording. internal gumption traps, like "fear" are obviously more difficult to deal with, but mechanical/logistical/physical traps are easily dealt with and build confidence. also - i find it's a good idea to power up the studio and have everything ready to go - before i plan on doing anything. i'll set up - go and do something else - then come back and just dive in. On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 4:27 PM, wrote: > Quoting BC : >> >> Would anyone like to share their strategies for minimizing time spent in >> the creative desert? >> > > In pondering this question, I've concluded that my normal state is to lac= k > energy and motivation for music. =A0I have a love-hate relationship with = music > in the sense that if I'm in my studio I'm not doing something else -- > particularly when the weather is great and I want to be outoors. =A0The o= nly > thing that I do consistantly is to play a Navajo flute and I just play it= to > relax. > > The thing that stands between me and music-making is fear and associated > negative feelings. =A0Some automatic thoughts are triggered: > > . Will my equipment work when I turn it on or will I end up spending the > entire session troubleshooting or otherwise frustrating myself? > > . Will I end up listening to a passage repeatedly while unable to add > anything to the work? > > . Will I, after a few hours, walk away feeling as though I wasted the tim= e? > > . Is this even worth the time and effort? > > ... what underlies all of these questions is fear -- the fear of failure. > =A0Sometimes the fear is debilitating -- I don't even walk into the studi= o. =A0I > don't want to face it or think about it. > > To clean up and re-arrange the studio's equipment and furniture helps me = to > overcome the fear. =A0Also, to test/calibrate the equipment helps, too. > > Then I may just pose little experiments -- i.e. (what happens if I connec= t > gadget 'b' to gadget 'f' or some non-standard configuration. > > I keep an external recorder (a ML9600) "hot" and ready to record, too. > > In other words, I have to distract myself from negative thoughts with som= e > kind of action -- even if it is just to pull out a vacuum cleaner and cle= an > stuff up. > > -- Kevin > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 17 17:07:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83DE0183465; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:07:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_4zvoUuGoOftfWPXVw2TL9Q)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-10-17_04:2011-10-17,2011-10-17,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=5 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1110170190 From: Daniel Thomas Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:07:47 -0700 In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <26554538.2731.1318842568497.JavaMail.root@WARSBL213.highway.telekom.at> Message-id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112400 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:07:51 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_4zvoUuGoOftfWPXVw2TL9Q) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I find a humbling belly flop at the International Live Looping festival in Santa Cruz really sparks my creativity! :) Always check that you plugged and configured your rig in correctly before you roll it onto the stage. Unless, of course, you want to be put on the spot to be really, really, creative. No one ever died of music played badly. Consider it proven. Daniel On Oct 17, 2011, at 6:12 AM, mark francombe wrote: > On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Andi Mathoy wrote: > STANDSTILL CAN BE SEEN AS AN IMPORTANT PART OF PROGRESSION. > this keeps me away from putting too much pressure on myself. > > ABSOLUTELY!!! > > I can see this to be true, in the way I treat my kids. I let them get bored!!!! > > So many of my friends are constantly fussing and setting up "activities" for them to do, during the weekend, after school... > "Oh its so important that they participate and are constantly engaged, thats how they learn!" > > BULLSHIT!! > > My son mopes about for a few minutes and comes to me and says "I'm bored!" I say, > "Go and make up something to do.." > > 2 hours later, he comes and shows me some fantastically creative thing he's, built, painted, drawn, made. > > As a result, my friends are always complaining that their kids are so demanding and take up so much time, what with all their "activities", I say Oh yeah, and casually glance over at Nikolas who has drawn the 35th level for his computer game that hes going to build one day, complete with crocodiles, spaceships and pirates, or sometimes I have to say "Nikolas can you turn down that music you are making with my kaos pad, Im on the phone!" OR more often than not.. "Nikolas... NIKOLAS!! Where are you?" The reply comes... "HELP DAD, Ive BEEN Captured by dangerous man-eating towels in the bathroom... Come and save me!! But mind the lava in the hallway!!!" > > Boredom... > > A great creativity sparker! > > M > > > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ > --Boundary_(ID_4zvoUuGoOftfWPXVw2TL9Q) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
On Mon, = Oct 17, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Andi Mathoy <a.mathoy@aon.at> wrote:
STANDSTILL CAN BE SEEN AS AN IMPORTANT PART OF PROGRESSION.
this keeps me away from putting too much pressure on = myself.

ABSOLUTELY!!!

I can see this = to be true,  in the way I treat my kids. I let them get = bored!!!!

So many of my friends are constantly fussing and = setting up "activities" for them to do, during the weekend, after = school...
"Oh its so important that they participate and are constantly engaged, = thats how they learn!"

BULLSHIT!!

My son mopes about for a = few minutes and comes to me and says "I'm bored!" I say,
"Go and make up something to do.."

2 hours later, he comes and = shows me some fantastically creative thing he's, built, painted, drawn, = made.

As a result, my friends are always complaining that their = kids are so demanding and take up so much time, what with all their = "activities", I say Oh yeah, and casually glance over at Nikolas who has = drawn the 35th level for his computer game that hes going to build one = day, complete with crocodiles, spaceships and pirates, or sometimes I = have to say "Nikolas can you turn down that music you are making with my = kaos pad, Im on the phone!" OR more often than not.. "Nikolas... = NIKOLAS!! Where are you?" The reply comes... "HELP DAD, Ive BEEN = Captured by dangerous man-eating towels in the bathroom... Come and save = me!! But mind the lava in the hallway!!!"

Boredom...

A great creativity sparker!

M



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Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/


= --Boundary_(ID_4zvoUuGoOftfWPXVw2TL9Q)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 17 19:02:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A59B183465; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 19:02:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 487 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 19:02:33 UTC X-CMAE-OUT-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=VBJTyIMN7I597t4y7Kt7Bjv9ruedrESoJilAO3P2pIU= c=1 sm=1 a=9_NOgyVLwEwA:10 a=sbs2_ZMNFVcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=fmtIp8BrrUf_anhws4AA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=0AlVHH8JL5/EJWcNM5YG6g==:117 X-CMAE-OUT-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <20111017145426.8417@web002.nyc1.bluetie.com> X-HTTP-Received: from bryanhelm.4000003588 [184.164.4.235] by web002.nyc1.bluetie.com (BlueTie WebMail ); Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:54:26 -0400 X-Mailer: BlueTie MTA Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:54:26 -0400 Cc: To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Bryan Helm" Importance: normal Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? 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To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="412410144-844305132-1318879913=:22891" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112402 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 19:31:55 +0000 (UTC) --412410144-844305132-1318879913=:22891 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I like to head to a bar and pick up a hot bitch.=A0=A0Now THAT can be reall= y inspiring!=0A=0A=0AFrom: andy soto =0ATo: Loop= ers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Monday, October 17, 2011 4:36 AM=0A= Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up?=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=A0Be i= nterested in EVERYTHING.=0A=0A=A0Inspiration can come from every aspect of = life.=0A=0A=A0Andy=0A=0A=0AOn Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Ingo Ito wrote:=0A=0AHi Brian,=0A>=A0=0A>I had this situation many = times and established some sort of "catalogue" for me,=A0what could be done= against this:=0A>=A0=0A>1. Oblique Strategies - always a good first choice= .=0A>2. As a guitarist, try different tunings, especially ones, which you n= ever have tried before.=0A>3. Listen to some of your old=A0stuff,=A0which y= ou never have continued, because at that time you didn=B4t had any ideas fo= r it - maybe now=B4s the time.=0A>4. Establish a "Composing Hour", which me= ans that every day at the same time (that=B4s best, though different times = of the day also work), you sit with all your equipment (guitars, keyboards,= computer, software, boxes - all that you have) and force yourself to DO so= mething for one hour - then stop and don=B4t think about the music=A0until = you sit there again the next day. When you have a new idea, just record a s= hort sketch of it. Keep away from starting arrangements, into deep sound tw= eaking etc. - keep it fast and simple and move on to sth. else. There might= be little to none output at the beginning, but the continuity of everyday= =B4s working rhythm will get you on the track again. After one month you=A0= listen to your recorded material and then start to add more arrangements, s= ounds etc. (I got this idea from a very=A0good book on this subject: "The A= rt & Craft of Writing Music" by Matthew Nicholl, http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/art-and-craft-of-writing-music/16071= 216=A0, which was originally recommended by Robert Fripp)=0A>5. Read a book= . Try subjects that are not your favourite crime reading etc., but sth. new= to you.=0A>6. Go to the cinema. Try films that are less action and more to= contemplate about afterwards.=0A>7. Go to a concert. Especially with music= , that is not your favourite band, but somebody you just have read about in= the papers or sb. had told you it=B4s interesting.=0A>8. Go to a museum or= exhibition. If you have talent in doing sketches, take some paper with you= and try to make a sketch of one piece of art, which you liked very much. P= ut this sketch on the wall where you work on your music. Let it inspire you= , watch it while you play your instrument, let your musical thoughts meande= r into every possible direction and do a simple recording of what you play= =0A>9. Leave all your musical stuff completely untouched for at least one w= eek (or two, or three...) and DON=B4T worry about it.=0A>10. Okay....buy a = box ;-). This one looks interesting, too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D= j7-f-t28GOM&feature=3DBFa&list=3DPLA548FE27426F8D8C&lf=3Dmh_lolz=0A>=A0=0A>= Hope this helps a bit :-)=0A>=A0=0A>Cheers=0A>=A0=0A>Ingo=0A>=A0=0A>=A0=0A>= Ingo Ito=0A>www.itofarm.com=0A>=A0=0A>----- Original Message ----- =0A>>Fro= m: BC =0A>>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =0A>>Sent: Sunday, Octob= er 16, 2011 6:30 PM=0A>>Subject: What do YOU do when creativity dries up?= =0A>>=0A>>I'm sure this has been covered in the past before my time here. P= erhaps it's =0A>>a good thing to take a fresh look at the phenomenon and co= ping strategies =0A>>from time to time.=0A>>=0A>>What do you do when the cr= eative flow diminishes into a creative drip and =0A>>then seemingly dries u= p completely? You sit at your instrument to come up =0A>>with some new idea= s and......nothing!=0A>>=0A>>You have a vague sense that your passion is ju= st not there. You might even =0A>>feel "cludgy" and awkward at the instrume= nt. Aside from letting time pass, =0A>>would anyone like to share their str= ategies for minimizing time spent in the =0A>>creative desert?=0A>>=0A>>Bri= an =0A>> --412410144-844305132-1318879913=:22891 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I like to head to a bar and pick up a hot= bitch.  Now THAT can be really ins= piring!

From:= andy soto <musicalmexicana@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.comSent: Monday, October 17,= 2011 4:36 AM
Subject: R= e: What do YOU do when creativity dries up?



 Be interested in EVERYTHING.

&n= bsp;Inspiration can come from every aspect of life.

 Andy
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Ingo= Ito <ingoito@itofarm.= com> wrote:
Hi Brian,
 
I had this situation many times and established s= ome sort of "catalogue" for me, what could be done against this:
 
1. Oblique Strategies - always a good first choic= e.
2. As a guitarist, try different tunings, especia= lly ones, which you never have tried before.
3. Listen to some of your old stuff, wh= ich you never have continued, because at that time you didn=B4t had any ide= as for it - maybe now=B4s the time.
4. Establish a "Composing Hour", which means that= every day at the same time (that=B4s best, though different times of the d= ay also work), you sit with all your equipment (guitars, keyboards, compute= r, software, boxes - all that you have) and force yourself to DO something = for one hour - then stop and don=B4t think about the music until you s= it there again the next day. When you have a new idea, just record a short = sketch of it. Keep away from starting arrangements, into deep sound tweakin= g etc. - keep it fast and simple and move on to sth. else. There might be l= ittle to none output at the beginning, but the continuity of everyday=B4s w= orking rhythm will get you on the track again. After one month you lis= ten to your recorded material and then start to add more arrangements, soun= ds etc. (I got this idea from a very good book on this subject: "The A= rt & Craft of Writing Music" by Matthew Nicholl, http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/art-and-craft-of-writing-music/16071= 216 , which was originally recommended by Robert = Fripp)
5. Read a book. Try subjects that are not your fa= vourite crime reading etc., but sth. new to you.
6. Go to the cinema. Try films that are less acti= on and more to contemplate about afterwards.
7. Go to a concert. Especially with music, that i= s not your favourite band, but somebody you just have read about in the pap= ers or sb. had told you it=B4s interesting.
8. Go to a museum or exhibition. If you have tale= nt in doing sketches, take some paper with you and try to make a sketch of = one piece of art, which you liked very much. Put this sketch on the wall wh= ere you work on your music. Let it inspire you, watch it while you play you= r instrument, let your musical thoughts meander into every possible directi= on and do a simple recording of what you play
9. Leave all your musical stuff completely untouc= hed for at least one week (or two, or three...) and DON=B4T worry about it.=
10. Okay....buy a box ;-). This one looks interes= ting, too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dj7-f-t28GOM&feature=3DBFa&a= mp;list=3DPLA548FE27426F8D8C&lf=3Dmh_lolz
 
Hope this helps a bit :-)
 
Cheers
 
Ingo
 
 
Ingo Ito
www.itofarm.com<= /DIV>
 
----- Original Message -----
From: BC
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 6:30 = PM
Subject: What do YOU do when creativ= ity dries up?

I'm sure this has been covered in the past before my time he= re. Perhaps it's
a good thing to take a fresh look at the phenomenon an= d coping strategies
from time to time.

What do you do when the c= reative flow diminishes into a creative drip and
then seemingly dries u= p completely? You sit at your instrument to come up
with some new ideas= and......nothing!

You have a vague sense that your passion is just = not there. You might even
feel "cludgy" and awkward at the instrument. = Aside from letting time pass,
would anyone like to share their strategi= es for minimizing time spent in the
creative desert?

Brian
<= /BLOCKQUOTE>



--412410144-844305132-1318879913=:22891-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 17 19:53:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29749183461; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 19:53:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=ZBuvu7VsEj5SbduODAPn7ORrYiIYK2HGQrdcYzpjuiI=; b=jv8hcJLsZnNZlHg8iwNczEfkIJWyy70O3jHgF0Xc9vNq4cV1XhEj2veZYJiwllrSDQ bneWzDKxIAC94MzUmPbYlnAvdjSlMYhIqGbtA7+ztC4n4rM9D0GH2GGdBEkzjyB3axrC 4jWdqaBcFlU4pd1ctTD+fqAc32ZdJeJPER97s= References: <18A0AF9B8EB34E7191D06CA3FB887ECD@ccs.local> <05D8199BEDC94BB6BB416B9C3DCFABC0@itowork2> <1318879913.22891.YahooMailNeo@web38405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1318879913.22891.YahooMailNeo@web38405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8L1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-10--875867843 Message-Id: <22C15DE8-9347-44A4-8CDA-99DFBB6541D3@gmail.com> Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8L1) From: Phil Clevenger Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:53:40 -0700 To: Elmer Fuddski Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112403 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 19:53:58 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-10--875867843 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I think that is in the Oblique Strategies already :) Sent from my iPhone On Oct 17, 2011, at 12:31 PM, Elmer Fuddski wrote= : > I like to head to a bar and pick up a hot bitch. Now THAT can be really i= nspiring! >=20 > From: andy soto > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 4:36 AM > Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? >=20 >=20 >=20 > Be interested in EVERYTHING. >=20 > Inspiration can come from every aspect of life. >=20 > Andy >=20 > On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Ingo Ito wrote: > Hi Brian, > =20 > I had this situation many times and established some sort of "catalogue" f= or me, what could be done against this: > =20 > 1. Oblique Strategies - always a good first choice. > 2. As a guitarist, try different tunings, especially ones, which you never= have tried before. > 3. Listen to some of your old stuff, which you never have continued, becau= se at that time you didn=C2=B4t had any ideas for it - maybe now=C2=B4s the t= ime. > 4. Establish a "Composing Hour", which means that every day at the same ti= me (that=C2=B4s best, though different times of the day also work), you sit w= ith all your equipment (guitars, keyboards, computer, software, boxes - all t= hat you have) and force yourself to DO something for one hour - then stop an= d don=C2=B4t think about the music until you sit there again the next day. W= hen you have a new idea, just record a short sketch of it. Keep away from st= arting arrangements, into deep sound tweaking etc. - keep it fast and simple= and move on to sth. else. There might be little to none output at the begin= ning, but the continuity of everyday=C2=B4s working rhythm will get you on t= he track again. After one month you listen to your recorded material and the= n start to add more arrangements, sounds etc. (I got this idea from a very g= ood book on this subject: "The Art & Craft of Writing Music" by Matthew Nich= oll, http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/art-and-craft-of-writing-music/16= 071216 , which was originally recommended by Robert Fripp) > 5. Read a book. Try subjects that are not your favourite crime reading etc= ., but sth. new to you. > 6. Go to the cinema. Try films that are less action and more to contemplat= e about afterwards. > 7. Go to a concert. Especially with music, that is not your favourite band= , but somebody you just have read about in the papers or sb. had told you it= =C2=B4s interesting. > 8. Go to a museum or exhibition. If you have talent in doing sketches, tak= e some paper with you and try to make a sketch of one piece of art, which yo= u liked very much. Put this sketch on the wall where you work on your music.= Let it inspire you, watch it while you play your instrument, let your music= al thoughts meander into every possible direction and do a simple recording o= f what you play > 9. Leave all your musical stuff completely untouched for at least one week= (or two, or three...) and DON=C2=B4T worry about it. > 10. Okay....buy a box ;-). This one looks interesting, too: http://www.you= tube.com/watch?v=3Dj7-f-t28GOM&feature=3DBFa&list=3DPLA548FE27426F8D8C&lf=3D= mh_lolz > =20 > Hope this helps a bit :-) > =20 > Cheers > =20 > Ingo > =20 > =20 > Ingo Ito > www.itofarm.com > =20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: BC > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 6:30 PM > Subject: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? >=20 > I'm sure this has been covered in the past before my time here. Perhaps it= 's=20 > a good thing to take a fresh look at the phenomenon and coping strategies=20= > from time to time. >=20 > What do you do when the creative flow diminishes into a creative drip and=20= > then seemingly dries up completely? You sit at your instrument to come up=20= > with some new ideas and......nothing! >=20 > You have a vague sense that your passion is just not there. You might even= =20 > feel "cludgy" and awkward at the instrument. Aside from letting time pass,= =20 > would anyone like to share their strategies for minimizing time spent in t= he=20 > creative desert? >=20 > Brian=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-10--875867843 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
I think that is in the Oblique Strategi= es already :)

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 17, 201= 1, at 12:31 PM, Elmer Fuddski <jakebrakesrule@yahoo.com> wrote:

I like to head to a bar and pick up= a hot bitch.  Now THAT can be rea= lly inspiring!

From: andy soto <musicalm= exicana@gmail.com>
To:= Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Monday, Octo= ber 17, 2011 4:36 AM
Subject:= Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up?



 Be interested in EVERYTHING.

&= nbsp;Inspiration can come from every aspect of life.

 Andy
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Ing= o Ito <ingoito@itofarm.com> wrote:
Hi Brian,
 
I had this situation many times and established s= ome sort of "catalogue" for me, what could be done against this:=
 
1. Oblique Strategies - always a good first choi= ce.
2. As a guitarist, try different tunings, especi= ally ones, which you never have tried before.
3. Listen to some of your old stuff, w= hich you never have continued, because at that time you didn=C2=B4t had any i= deas for it - maybe now=C2=B4s the time.
4. Establish a "Composing Hour", which means tha= t every day at the same time (that=C2=B4s best, though different times of th= e day also work), you sit with all your equipment (guitars, keyboards, compu= ter, software, boxes - all that you have) and force yourself to DO something= for one hour - then stop and don=C2=B4t think about the music until yo= u sit there again the next day. When you have a new idea, just record a shor= t sketch of it. Keep away from starting arrangements, into deep sound tweaki= ng etc. - keep it fast and simple and move on to sth. else. There might be l= ittle to none output at the beginning, but the continuity of everyday=C2=B4s= working rhythm will get you on the track again. After one month you li= sten to your recorded material and then start to add more arrangements, soun= ds etc. (I got this idea from a very good book on this subject: "The Ar= t & Craft of Writing Music" by Matthew Nicholl, http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/art-and-c= raft-of-writing-music/16071216 , which wa= s originally recommended by Robert Fripp)
5. Read a book. Try subjects that are not your f= avourite crime reading etc., but sth. new to you.
6. Go to the cinema. Try films that are less act= ion and more to contemplate about afterwards.
7. Go to a concert. Especially with music, that i= s not your favourite band, but somebody you just have read about in the pape= rs or sb. had told you it=C2=B4s interesting.
8. Go to a museum or exhibition. If you have tal= ent in doing sketches, take some paper with you and try to make a sketch of o= ne piece of art, which you liked very much. Put this sketch on the wall wher= e you work on your music. Let it inspire you, watch it while you play your i= nstrument, let your musical thoughts meander into every possible direction a= nd do a simple recording of what you play
9. Leave all your musical stuff completely untou= ched for at least one week (or two, or three...) and DON=C2=B4T worry about i= t.
 
Hope this helps a bit :-)
 
Cheers
 
Ingo
 
 
Ingo Ito
 
----- Original Message -----
From: BC
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 6:30 P= M
Subject: What do YOU do when creativi= ty dries up?

I'm sure this has been covered in the past before my time her= e. Perhaps it's
a good thing to take a fresh look at the phenomenon and c= oping strategies
from time to time.

What do you do when the creat= ive flow diminishes into a creative drip and
then seemingly dries up com= pletely? You sit at your instrument to come up
with some new ideas and..= ....nothing!

You have a vague sense that your passion is just not the= re. You might even
feel "cludgy" and awkward at the instrument. Aside fr= om letting time pass,
would anyone like to share their strategies for mi= nimizing time spent in the
creative desert?

Brian



= --Apple-Mail-10--875867843-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 17 21:00:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0EB6B183460; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 21:00:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=O5zr7grceH8SQRhKMrGJlhtF14kAaw0MPZr/Jaw4irs=; b=TG6QeeehgXjD+NaGmFO95BIsAqChVHJB9+odxUpOjOcw6mdRYO7DBlLWveLfnjQwBn pm6ExFTY8VnkXTJ5rMYCUHWEBLTqE6LddjNTIPcKQc6K2YfMk9YU7fjku9qV50P3BvZA 1SeIIKoQU8+iV5vaMt/tp7VkCLLQ0fIKtIL7A= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <22C15DE8-9347-44A4-8CDA-99DFBB6541D3@gmail.com> References: <18A0AF9B8EB34E7191D06CA3FB887ECD@ccs.local> <05D8199BEDC94BB6BB416B9C3DCFABC0@itowork2> <1318879913.22891.YahooMailNeo@web38405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <22C15DE8-9347-44A4-8CDA-99DFBB6541D3@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:00:52 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? From: william middlemiss To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636417307f6061a04af84e68c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112404 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 21:00:52 +0000 (UTC) --001636417307f6061a04af84e68c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I usually talk to myself. then hike in the woods. then sleep. I usually, actually, RUN AWAY from the hot bitches. odds are that theyre just gonna ad= d more dirt on an already stifling pile of neuroses. On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Phil Clevenger w= rote: > I think that is in the Oblique Strategies already :) > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 17, 2011, at 12:31 PM, Elmer Fuddski > wrote: > > I like to head to a bar and pick up a hot bitch. Now THAT can be really > inspiring! > > *From:* andy soto > *To:* > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Monday, October 17, 2011 4:36 AM > *Subject:* Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? > > > > Be interested in EVERYTHING. > > Inspiration can come from every aspect of life. > > Andy > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Ingo Ito < > ingoito@itofarm.com> wrote: > > ** > Hi Brian, > > I had this situation many times and established some sort of "catalogue" > for me, what could be done against this: > > 1. Oblique Strategies - always a good first choice. > 2. As a guitarist, try different tunings, especially ones, which you neve= r > have tried before. > 3. Listen to some of your old stuff, which you never have continued, > because at that time you didn=B4t had any ideas for it - maybe now=B4s th= e time. > 4. Establish a "Composing Hour", which means that every day at the same > time (that=B4s best, though different times of the day also work), you si= t > with all your equipment (guitars, keyboards, computer, software, boxes - = all > that you have) and force yourself to DO something for one hour - then sto= p > and don=B4t think about the music until you sit there again the next day.= When > you have a new idea, just record a short sketch of it. Keep away from > starting arrangements, into deep sound tweaking etc. - keep it fast and > simple and move on to sth. else. There might be little to none output at = the > beginning, but the continuity of everyday=B4s working rhythm will get you= on > the track again. After one month you listen to your recorded material and > then start to add more arrangements, sounds etc. (I got this idea from a > very good book on this subject: "The Art & Craft of Writing Music" by > Matthew Nicholl, > > http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/art-and-craft-of-writing-music/1607= 1216 , > which was originally recommended by Robert Fripp) > 5. Read a book. Try subjects that are not your favourite crime reading > etc., but sth. new to you. > 6. Go to the cinema. Try films that are less action and more to contempla= te > about afterwards. > 7. Go to a concert. Especially with music, that is not your favourite ban= d, > but somebody you just have read about in the papers or sb. had told you i= t=B4s > interesting. > 8. Go to a museum or exhibition. If you have talent in doing sketches, ta= ke > some paper with you and try to make a sketch of one piece of art, which y= ou > liked very much. Put this sketch on the wall where you work on your music= . > Let it inspire you, watch it while you play your instrument, let your > musical thoughts meander into every possible direction and do a simple > recording of what you play > 9. Leave all your musical stuff completely untouched for at least one wee= k > (or two, or three...) and DON=B4T worry about it. > 10. Okay....buy a box ;-). This one looks interesting, too: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dj7-f-t28GOM&feature=3DBFa&list=3DPLA548F= E27426F8D8C&lf=3Dmh_lolz > > Hope this helps a bit :-) > > Cheers > > Ingo > > > Ingo Ito > www.itofarm.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* BC > *To:* > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Sunday, October 16, 2011 6:30 PM > *Subject:* What do YOU do when creativity dries up? > > I'm sure this has been covered in the past before my time here. Perhaps > it's > a good thing to take a fresh look at the phenomenon and coping strategies > from time to time. > > What do you do when the creative flow diminishes into a creative drip and > then seemingly dries up completely? You sit at your instrument to come up > with some new ideas and......nothing! > > You have a vague sense that your passion is just not there. You might eve= n > feel "cludgy" and awkward at the instrument. Aside from letting time pass= , > would anyone like to share their strategies for minimizing time spent in > the > creative desert? > > Brian > > > > > --001636417307f6061a04af84e68c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I usually talk to myself. then hike in the woods. then sleep. I usually, ac= tually, RUN AWAY from the hot bitches. odds are that theyre just gonna add = more dirt on an already stifling pile of neuroses.=A0

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Phil Clevenger <phil.clevenger@gma= il.com> wrote:
I think that is in the Oblique Strategies alr= eady :)

Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 17, 2011, at 12:31 PM, Elmer Fuddski <jakebrakesrule@yahoo.com> wrote= :

I like to head to a bar and pick up a hot bitch= .=A0=A0Now THAT can be really inspiring!

From: andy soto <musicalmexican= a@gmail.com>
To: <= a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank">
L= oopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Monday, October 17, 20= 11 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: W= hat do YOU do when creativity dries up?



=A0Be interested in EVERYTHING.

=A0Inspiration can come= from every aspect of life.

=A0Andy

On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Ingo Ito <ingoito@itofarm.com<= /a>> wrote:
Hi Brian,
=A0
I had this situation many times and established= some sort of "catalogue" for me,=A0what could be done against th= is:
=A0
1. Oblique Strategies - always a good first cho= ice.
2. As a guitarist, try different tunings, espec= ially ones, which you never have tried before.
3. Listen to some of your old=A0stuff,=A0which = you never have continued, because at that time you didn=B4t had any ideas f= or it - maybe now=B4s the time.
4. Establish a "Composing Hour", whic= h means that every day at the same time (that=B4s best, though different ti= mes of the day also work), you sit with all your equipment (guitars, keyboa= rds, computer, software, boxes - all that you have) and force yourself to D= O something for one hour - then stop and don=B4t think about the music=A0un= til you sit there again the next day. When you have a new idea, just record= a short sketch of it. Keep away from starting arrangements, into deep soun= d tweaking etc. - keep it fast and simple and move on to sth. else. There m= ight be little to none output at the beginning, but the continuity of every= day=B4s working rhythm will get you on the track again. After one month you= =A0listen to your recorded material and then start to add more arrangements= , sounds etc. (I got this idea from a very=A0good book on this subject: &qu= ot;The Art & Craft of Writing Music" by Matthew Nicholl, http= ://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/art-and-craft-of-writing-music/16071216=A0,= which was originally recommended by Robert Fripp)
5. Read a book. Try subjects that are not your = favourite crime reading etc., but sth. new to you.
6. Go to the cinema. Try films that are less ac= tion and more to contemplate about afterwards.
7. Go to a concert. Especially with music, that= is not your favourite band, but somebody you just have read about in the p= apers or sb. had told you it=B4s interesting.
8. Go to a museum or exhibition. If you have ta= lent in doing sketches, take some paper with you and try to make a sketch o= f one piece of art, which you liked very much. Put this sketch on the wall = where you work on your music. Let it inspire you, watch it while you play y= our instrument, let your musical thoughts meander into every possible direc= tion and do a simple recording of what you play
9. Leave all your musical stuff completely unto= uched for at least one week (or two, or three...) and DON=B4T worry about i= t.
=A0
Hope this helps a bit :-)
=A0
Cheers
=A0
Ingo
=A0
=A0
Ingo Ito
=A0
----- Original Message -----
From: BC
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 6:30 P= M
Subject: What do YOU do when creativi= ty dries up?

I'm sure this has been covered in the past before my tim= e here. Perhaps it's
a good thing to take a fresh look at the pheno= menon and coping strategies
from time to time.

What do you do wh= en the creative flow diminishes into a creative drip and
then seemingly dries up completely? You sit at your instrument to come up <= br>with some new ideas and......nothing!

You have a vague sense that= your passion is just not there. You might even
feel "cludgy"= and awkward at the instrument. Aside from letting time pass,
would anyone like to share their strategies for minimizing time spent in th= e
creative desert?

Brian




--001636417307f6061a04af84e68c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 17 21:06:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B49B18345F; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 21:06:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 15668.68042.bm@omp1059.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1318885608; bh=JXbvWhJIu3sOE9AV1yRyzqHdNNoulxvwGlQKMFZOiWs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QuDil43eurBEtOwgASQuPsOCz/6Pxi9k5W3tGYEmouhvqCf6qNV2dPQ9IJmOKL5f4zkMvSULFnx0lSuiepH3AjtGOI6Uw2iaRTw8osOmHaaAwNYpY/HcC5zDQgR++cUVicPcD3JS4gh+bLlcrdLRaaKnc0sL7yHgU3oLynUHpSY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DXpMuSUGQXj+3/xtWQuiCQ+lAbWrlxKeb0ly+bRupBVfLn2CRvFDNjf2eDa60xFLJrVxfDxgNl/E8ZfX52ALJi/HygT+UZ5P9JraqSJD2tP7DpP8azrLYN8wxOu59WrausGneLg1PjNymjSZ+y2/eugmh2lo/l84mzFvHbed9as=; X-YMail-OSG: XcBPNZAVM1lQXcYGVvLuJXTCAMtgcRA1qSfaSEd94M4UxXg 94TFXBcQJcw9gaq328hjOcepRxu.OlWArYOWuhty6wqjBOFNO.5stahIhfLE 4aQocU5uG73vIp.qrY3YnwDUrmNJANvQ9QKfKvCVVQBbu6zhN999kwSPWU_Y _sHW6NEHp2gDWijHzt6VydkmGNNjaM_cauMBw1vS1QKycrSMZ.0wEfFEsUh9 g_5BkA1NIKmXnqVnOmrSw5iWBbVNw3dQIFMcjO7I3IefxfPvLbhrLZEp0oDf q8AJ77o8__zHcevGtBV2.WF3gdFT1yUcsQw8xMpr8UkL26MEhNi8Bi6p77ND d4HiDXHpPiX_EfzE6aOLgOrr1NUbJ4J8teDOjN2YyTA2U3RyLhrRDOXdH6Xo uu3T6850mh0qzYzTTsWjENCSrgWuO3pu2k.1x7w.FzPzqY_SxubM1EDhncOi OTwVzwmtvPZ_PguT0e3Wzkd9SHQ51SKcqTiBcwEfvjiiTaZUxEMQF2wHrVGg 5W.CQRksmC0YCh6rHt9XqtKAViAm6JwD6FC1S9obZOG.ZNHtr.OWTjb2ZGQv hkz1ZtNiEM.I3dd66AmTWqzjNR5r8KY1oz.AHI1FzS.sPwlQtfHUC9vnfNbr nrOlX8B2SVEsHBZftxFvdTcQ4C7jlSl_uknOVvjqhIQQS4K4e0OT6ucVo4gT b26AYwObTLvc6EsVoZtriaOIl6tdjgwEm5AHlfVpLWid0Vi4ez.tFAz.TXug ya1euMVii6urhffrqNtWqlHP3N4VTK7Kujav20AxAiGY- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.114.317681 References: <18A0AF9B8EB34E7191D06CA3FB887ECD@ccs.local> <05D8199BEDC94BB6BB416B9C3DCFABC0@itowork2> <1318879913.22891.YahooMailNeo@web38405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <22C15DE8-9347-44A4-8CDA-99DFBB6541D3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1318885608.87901.YahooMailNeo@web38405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:06:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Elmer Fuddski Reply-To: Elmer Fuddski Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="412410144-39680578-1318885608=:87901" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112405 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 21:06:50 +0000 (UTC) --412410144-39680578-1318885608=:87901 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (I usually, actually, RUN AWAY from the hot bitches).=0A=A0=0AOr, maybe the= y're running away from YOU! :) =0A=A0=0ASeriously, if you come acrost any ,= send them my way. I only usually end up with a three-sheets-to-the-wind sq= uaw in my Elko, NV neck of the woods.=0A=0AFrom: william middlemiss =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Mond= ay, October 17, 2011 5:00 PM=0ASubject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity = dries up?=0A=0A=0AI usually talk to myself. then hike in the woods. then sl= eep. I usually, actually, RUN AWAY from the hot bitches. odds are that they= re just gonna add more dirt on an already stifling pile of neuroses.=A0=0A= =0A=0AOn Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Phil Clevenger wrote:=0A=0AI think that is in the Oblique Strategies already :)=0A>= =0A>Sent from my iPhone=0A>=0A>On Oct 17, 2011, at 12:31 PM, Elmer Fuddski = wrote:=0A>=0A>=0A>I like to head to a bar and pi= ck up a hot bitch.=A0=A0Now THAT can be really inspiring!=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A= >>From: andy soto =0A>>To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=0A>>Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 4:36 AM=0A>>Subject: Re: = What do YOU do when creativity dries up?=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=A0Be inte= rested in EVERYTHING.=0A>>=0A>>=A0Inspiration can come from every aspect of= life.=0A>>=0A>>=A0Andy=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Ing= o Ito wrote:=0A>>=0A>>Hi Brian,=0A>>>=A0=0A>>>I had t= his situation many times and established some sort of "catalogue" for me,= =A0what could be done against this:=0A>>>=A0=0A>>>1. Oblique Strategies - a= lways a good first choice.=0A>>>2. As a guitarist, try different tunings, e= specially ones, which you never have tried before.=0A>>>3. Listen to some o= f your old=A0stuff,=A0which you never have continued, because at that time = you didn=B4t had any ideas for it - maybe now=B4s the time.=0A>>>4. Establi= sh a "Composing Hour", which means that every day at the same time (that=B4= s best, though different times of the day also work), you sit with all your= equipment (guitars, keyboards, computer, software, boxes - all that you ha= ve) and force yourself to DO something for one hour - then stop and don=B4t= think about the music=A0until you sit there again the next day. When you h= ave a new idea, just record a short sketch of it. Keep away from starting a= rrangements, into deep sound tweaking etc. - keep it fast and simple and mo= ve on to sth. else. There might be little to none output at the beginning, = but the continuity of everyday=B4s working rhythm will get you on the track= again. After one month you=A0listen to your recorded material and then sta= rt to add more arrangements, sounds etc. (I got this idea from a very=A0goo= d book on this subject: "The Art & Craft of Writing Music" by Matthew Nicho= ll, http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/art-and-craft-of-writing-music/16071= 216=A0, which was originally recommended by Robert Fripp)=0A>>>5. Read a bo= ok. Try subjects that are not your favourite crime reading etc., but sth. n= ew to you.=0A>>>6. Go to the cinema. Try films that are less action and mor= e to contemplate about afterwards.=0A>>>7. Go to a concert. Especially with= music, that is not your favourite band, but somebody you just have read ab= out in the papers or sb. had told you it=B4s interesting.=0A>>>8. Go to a m= useum or exhibition. If you have talent in doing sketches, take some paper = with you and try to make a sketch of one piece of art, which you liked very= much. Put this sketch on the wall where you work on your music. Let it ins= pire you, watch it while you play your instrument, let your musical thought= s meander into every possible direction and do a simple recording of what y= ou play=0A>>>9. Leave all your musical stuff completely untouched for at le= ast one week (or two, or three...) and DON=B4T worry about it.=0A>>>10. Oka= y....buy a box ;-). This one looks interesting, too: http://www.youtube.com= /watch?v=3Dj7-f-t28GOM&feature=3DBFa&list=3DPLA548FE27426F8D8C&lf=3Dmh_lolz= =0A>>>=A0=0A>>>Hope this helps a bit :-)=0A>>>=A0=0A>>>Cheers=0A>>>=A0=0A>>= >Ingo=0A>>>=A0=0A>>>=A0=0A>>>Ingo Ito=0A>>>www.itofarm.com=0A>>>=A0=0A>>>--= --- Original Message ----- =0A>>>>From: BC =0A>>>>To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com =0A>>>>Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 6:30 PM=0A>>>>Subject:= What do YOU do when creativity dries up?=0A>>>>=0A>>>>I'm sure this has be= en covered in the past before my time here. Perhaps it's =0A>>>>a good thin= g to take a fresh look at the phenomenon and coping strategies =0A>>>>from = time to time.=0A>>>>=0A>>>>What do you do when the creative flow diminishes= into a creative drip and =0A>>>>then seemingly dries up completely? You si= t at your instrument to come up =0A>>>>with some new ideas and......nothing= !=0A>>>>=0A>>>>You have a vague sense that your passion is just not there. = You might even =0A>>>>feel "cludgy" and awkward at the instrument. Aside fr= om letting time pass, =0A>>>>would anyone like to share their strategies fo= r minimizing time spent in the =0A>>>>creative desert?=0A>>>>=0A>>>>Brian = =0A>>>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>> --412410144-39680578-1318885608=:87901 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(I usually, actually, RUN AWAY from the h= ot bitches).
 
Or, maybe they're ru= nning away from YOU! :)
 
Seriously, if you come acrost any , send them my way. I only usua= lly end up with a three-sheets-to-the-wind squaw in my Elko, NV neck of the= woods.

From:= william middlemiss <billymiddlemiss@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deligh= t.com
Sent: Monday, Octo= ber 17, 2011 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up?

I usually talk to myself. then= hike in the woods. then sleep. I usually, actually, RUN AWAY from the hot = bitches. odds are that theyre just gonna add more dirt on an already stifli= ng pile of neuroses. 

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Phil = Clevenger <p= hil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrote:
I think that is in the Oblique Strategies already :)

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 17, 2011, at 12:31 PM, Elmer Fuddski <jakebrakesrule@yahoo.com> wrote:

I like to head to a bar and pick up a hot bitch.  Now THAT can be really inspiring!

From: andy soto <musicalmexicana@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 4:36 AM=
Subject: Re: What do YOU do when cr= eativity dries up?



 Be interested in EVERYTHING.

 Inspiration ca= n come from every aspect of life.

 Andy

On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Ingo Ito <ingoito@= itofarm.com> wrote:
Hi Brian,
 
I had this situation many times and established s= ome sort of "catalogue" for me, what could be done against this:
 
1. Oblique Strategies - always a good first choic= e.
2. As a guitarist, try different tunings, especia= lly ones, which you never have tried before.
3. Listen to some of your old stuff, wh= ich you never have continued, because at that time you didn=B4t had any ide= as for it - maybe now=B4s the time.
4. Establish a "Composing Hour", which means that= every day at the same time (that=B4s best, though different times of the d= ay also work), you sit with all your equipment (guitars, keyboards, compute= r, software, boxes - all that you have) and force yourself to DO something = for one hour - then stop and don=B4t think about the music until you s= it there again the next day. When you have a new idea, just record a short = sketch of it. Keep away from starting arrangements, into deep sound tweakin= g etc. - keep it fast and simple and move on to sth. else. There might be l= ittle to none output at the beginning, but the continuity of everyday=B4s w= orking rhythm will get you on the track again. After one month you lis= ten to your recorded material and then start to add more arrangements, soun= ds etc. (I got this idea from a very good book on this subject: "The A= rt & Craft of Writing Music" by Matthew Nicholl, http://www.lulu.com/product= /paperback/art-and-craft-of-writing-music/16071216 , which was original= ly recommended by Robert Fripp)
5. Read a book. Try subjects that are not your fa= vourite crime reading etc., but sth. new to you.
6. Go to the cinema. Try films that are less acti= on and more to contemplate about afterwards.
7. Go to a concert. Especially with music, that i= s not your favourite band, but somebody you just have read about in the pap= ers or sb. had told you it=B4s interesting.
8. Go to a museum or exhibition. If you have tale= nt in doing sketches, take some paper with you and try to make a sketch of = one piece of art, which you liked very much. Put this sketch on the wall wh= ere you work on your music. Let it inspire you, watch it while you play you= r instrument, let your musical thoughts meander into every possible directi= on and do a simple recording of what you play
9. Leave all your musical stuff completely untouc= hed for at least one week (or two, or three...) and DON=B4T worry about it.=
10. Okay....buy a box ;-). This one looks interes= ting, too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dj7-f-t28GOM&feature= =3DBFa&list=3DPLA548FE27426F8D8C&lf=3Dmh_lolz
 
Hope this helps a bit :-)
 
Cheers
 
Ingo
 
 
Ingo Ito
 
----- Original Message -----
From: BC
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 6:30 = PM
Subject: What do YOU do when creativ= ity dries up?

I'm sure this has been covered in the past before my time he= re. Perhaps it's
a good thing to take a fresh look at the phenomenon an= d coping strategies
from time to time.

What do you do when the c= reative flow diminishes into a creative drip and
then seemingly dries u= p completely? You sit at your instrument to come up
with some new ideas= and......nothing!

You have a vague sense that your passion is just = not there. You might even
feel "cludgy" and awkward at the instrument. = Aside from letting time pass,
would anyone like to share their strategi= es for minimizing time spent in the
creative desert?

Brian
<= /BLOCKQUOTE>






--412410144-39680578-1318885608=:87901-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 17 21:41:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A79C8183466; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 21:41:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7Lf8FF5/W+h6xVSAeGVm3AXqEMSV41upIxCXdvHb86M=; b=GVUibvgSUpECsdqsIKHFSmOQP6GwNhQrqMEh619x+RAhuTg9/8P4qB8kUHClUNXmxI YlAqdEcXjuVylnUeztQSTmEu7+kYSuIcb529Mfji9vDFsfvOEvvjJvPhstvzAfGzMeop VA5snFvi7Xp6fTrCHXCkYxv9ArkyMztiIS9NA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <18A0AF9B8EB34E7191D06CA3FB887ECD@ccs.local> <05D8199BEDC94BB6BB416B9C3DCFABC0@itowork2> <1318879913.22891.YahooMailNeo@web38405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <22C15DE8-9347-44A4-8CDA-99DFBB6541D3@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 23:41:18 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112406 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 21:41:19 +0000 (UTC) i dont know about you but lately i find that i can hardly be creative by sitting in front of a PC or screen,by the time i turn the PC on there is something distractive right away some damn update or emails though sometimes i ve even come up with bits and ideas by watching TV late at night and not concentrating specifically on the guitar or even whats going on TV,just fiddling around,i think sometimes the images will inspire something unconsciously,like nature channels,devastation, news,etc. here are some: walk alone when is full moon when everyone has gone to sleep go to the movies alone and watch a good film yes a good book! or take the road through the forest from the pub late after midnight i love walking through the corn fields here in my surroundings while the horses, sheeps and cows ares still out eating,sit down and observe them go jogging in nature winter is perfect,chop wood and build a fire if u have a fireplace,open up a beer take the acoustic guitar and paper and sit by it when everyone else has gone to sleep i find the kitchen inspiring lately,when everyone is gone to work,there is no PCs or aynthing there and the space acoustics of the room resonats better when im playing guitar than at my cellar,so get out of your cave and change enviroments if possible light up candles and spend sometime alone at night turn off all cell phones and stay away from the PC at least for an hour take a swim in the morning and watch the sunrise or just about dawn and watch the sunset when there isnt anyone sit donw at a caf=E9 by yourself and observe a beautiful female,bu dont forget ot put your sunglasses on;-) let some mistery and uncertainty in life,get out of the confort zone life gives us so much, is up to us to write about it... Luis On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:00 PM, william middlemiss wrote: > I usually talk to myself. then hike in the woods. then sleep. I usually, > actually, RUN AWAY from the hot bitches. odds are that theyre just gonna = add > more dirt on an already stifling pile of neuroses. > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Phil Clevenger > wrote: >> >> I think that is in the Oblique Strategies already :) >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Oct 17, 2011, at 12:31 PM, Elmer Fuddski >> wrote: >> >> I like to head to a bar and pick up a hot bitch.=A0=A0Now THAT can be re= ally >> inspiring! >> >> From: andy soto >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 4:36 AM >> Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? >> >> >> >> =A0Be interested in EVERYTHING. >> >> =A0Inspiration can come from every aspect of life. >> >> =A0Andy >> >> On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Ingo Ito wrote: >> >> Hi Brian, >> >> I had this situation many times and established some sort of "catalogue" >> for me,=A0what could be done against this: >> >> 1. Oblique Strategies - always a good first choice. >> 2. As a guitarist, try different tunings, especially ones, which you nev= er >> have tried before. >> 3. Listen to some of your old=A0stuff,=A0which you never have continued, >> because at that time you didn=B4t had any ideas for it - maybe now=B4s t= he time. >> 4. Establish a "Composing Hour", which means that every day at the same >> time (that=B4s best, though different times of the day also work), you s= it >> with all your equipment (guitars, keyboards, computer, software, boxes -= all >> that you have) and force yourself to DO something for one hour - then st= op >> and don=B4t think about the music=A0until you sit there again the next d= ay. When >> you have a new idea, just record a short sketch of it. Keep away from >> starting arrangements, into deep sound tweaking etc. - keep it fast and >> simple and move on to sth. else. There might be little to none output at= the >> beginning, but the continuity of everyday=B4s working rhythm will get yo= u on >> the track again. After one month you=A0listen to your recorded material = and >> then start to add more arrangements, sounds etc. (I got this idea from a >> very=A0good book on this subject: "The Art & Craft of Writing Music" by >> Matthew Nicholl, >> http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/art-and-craft-of-writing-music/160= 71216=A0, >> which was originally recommended by Robert Fripp) >> 5. Read a book. Try subjects that are not your favourite crime reading >> etc., but sth. new to you. >> 6. Go to the cinema. Try films that are less action and more to >> contemplate about afterwards. >> 7. Go to a concert. Especially with music, that is not your favourite >> band, but somebody you just have read about in the papers or sb. had tol= d >> you it=B4s interesting. >> 8. Go to a museum or exhibition. If you have talent in doing sketches, >> take some paper with you and try to make a sketch of one piece of art, w= hich >> you liked very much. Put this sketch on the wall where you work on your >> music. Let it inspire you, watch it while you play your instrument, let = your >> musical thoughts meander into every possible direction and do a simple >> recording of what you play >> 9. Leave all your musical stuff completely untouched for at least one we= ek >> (or two, or three...) and DON=B4T worry about it. >> 10. Okay....buy a box ;-). This one looks interesting, too: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dj7-f-t28GOM&feature=3DBFa&list=3DPLA548= FE27426F8D8C&lf=3Dmh_lolz >> >> Hope this helps a bit :-) >> >> Cheers >> >> Ingo >> >> >> Ingo Ito >> www.itofarm.com >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: BC >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 6:30 PM >> Subject: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? >> I'm sure this has been covered in the past before my time here. Perhaps >> it's >> a good thing to take a fresh look at the phenomenon and coping strategie= s >> from time to time. >> >> What do you do when the creative flow diminishes into a creative drip an= d >> then seemingly dries up completely? You sit at your instrument to come u= p >> with some new ideas and......nothing! >> >> You have a vague sense that your passion is just not there. You might ev= en >> feel "cludgy" and awkward at the instrument. Aside from letting time pas= s, >> would anyone like to share their strategies for minimizing time spent in >> the >> creative desert? >> >> Brian >> >> >> > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 17 21:41:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6EBD0183486; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 21:41:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 164702.20337.bm@omp1048.mail.bf1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1318887686; bh=ojO+QbBwzzMpynaMgU6wGO9ttVTbS8DU7yCugN6k8ws=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UOQ3ONRO3XsU9l79Dy1t8j/HDQEi+/8zj1OMqF+zyUmFdv0GMdvQyJk7RupgqLg/4BG4MrnOANiHgKoZEy3XTzsAbU5OI5AWXbLszQYoTKJxNialcDQwxcbg9ZVDG8RcScrDTaxN/7jCfVRXk92Mt5gvk69yrFNok3RR4m2zUiY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Il3IfNSiwARzz1nEwdmH1HFCDTecCcGWOpWX5qUqhmj4fM7dxdKbguv+mqrX5ttVfef0Q2xsh5Z626Kv0pZ1rMU57Ybzx1UiSaWMry61uSFTq383DiJ1L9K8OQGASubpdFYldm+hRUek2vxCNGq7V+uFkzazMP7yrFMT/XlFPsQ=; X-YMail-OSG: EKseMbAVM1nng..nXjvZGe0wbvv8AcbW7wljIcMttY9.2HZ lL7taMHlBEcOrNh8cnk.nncrYRMtWlR5zQaXiS.mQL9AH08MbKNtGw1n4JAG OFVgvBzg8KhZUEowbTt_YLGhCWwgY6Nn4bi.Rw7qU_vX4zPi.DWtv7bg68yV 9X2_9TwUCo2nLKALJb.UHa3hhglYARBK_6IErB57sF3hUHeexvlHqeMQGWWG FfzE1vQfzkjCmLuugm2lbUOa9pf3P7ONQdaxgUuOWkfPcnMTZTQAiJd3UN8_ jsyLTzqGYX7wLqmrxTCI6ydJ5_tKeIh4PRGgPGKW6Ux6GfVM4O3QKDBgQOM4 3erTsog1eV2IgKXPfGZTMxNyCgo4qGpWxWz.rRLESYxrkHfnwC7gluwQ0gva zfD2LIcqv1GDbCiFdzBcL_qoqSRaw4zjNVEVmAMdB5jIdQX6fA9KkGCBRWK0 ogsEbQefeeNUa46UTkEvREFqLIJ.C.mrVl9k_w3K5mHvSG1EdNMJmWtswB3w i4ICbLLRx4DwTYuGkRkWhtGMy2TLmWdXU_riG7d3v4w4MaF2tfKje0E1wHFo VgTJQxqkjk47yb0CPjdI6lLCa.QTx.e3Wgi4ttpKwH6qh.tBxxS_gOTCyfYO VT7SpAQpSNdNDqkD4tQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.114.317681 References: <70215E754BE640CCB8F4CF5AFFC5FE28@mpeserver> <4E981D3D.5020001@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <1318887686.59803.YahooMailNeo@web32508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:41:26 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Reply-To: bill bigrig Subject: Re: FW: wery interesting guestion ! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-709188601-752557716-1318887686=:59803" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112407 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 21:41:28 +0000 (UTC) ---709188601-752557716-1318887686=:59803 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy, =0A=0AOr the Musician magazine reporters in 1980s russia when everyo= ne asked him to send an album of "Comrade Mitlov". =0ARig=0A=0A= =0A________________________________=0AFrom: Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@g= ooglemail.com>=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Friday,= October 14, 2011 5:55 AM=0ASubject: Re: FW: wery interesting guestion !=0A= =0Ai remeber a chinese guy that once asked back when i was playing in a=0Ac= over band if we could play "hoy kum gua"=0Ait took me a while to = realize he meant "oye como va"=0A=0AOn Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:30 = PM, Rainer Straschill=0A<moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:=0A> Mich= ael Peters schrieb:=0A>>=0A>> The afroamerican sings. Not Soniq= ue, no! In the song beginning plays =A0The=0A>> electronic piano, key= s quickly play.=0A>=0A> "The Bebop Tango (of the old jazzmen'= ;s church" by Frank Zappa. The=0A> afroamerican who doesn't sin= g Sonique and plays the quick keys on the=0A> electric piano would be Ge= orge Duke...;)=0A>=0A> --=0A> http://moinlabs.de=0A> Follow me = on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs=0A>=0A>=0A=0A=0A=0A-- =0Awww.= luis-angulo.com ---709188601-752557716-1318887686=:59803 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy,=0D
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Or the Musician magazine reporters in 1980s russia= when everyone asked him to send an album of "Comrade Mitlov".=0D=
Rig

From: Louie Angulo &= lt;louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 5:55 AM
<= span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject: Re: FW: wery interest= ing guestion !

=0Ai remeber a chinese guy that once asked bac= k when i was playing in a
cover band if we could play "hoy kum gua"
i= t took me a while to realize he meant "oye como va"

On Fri, Oct 14, = 2011 at 1:30 PM, Rainer Straschill
<moinsound@googlemail= .com> wrote:
> Michael Peters schrieb:
>>
>>= The afroamerican sings. Not Sonique, no! In the song beginning plays =A0Th= e
>> electronic piano, keys quickly play.
>
> "The Beb= op Tango (of the old jazzmen's church" by Frank Zappa. The
> afroamer= ican who doesn't sing Sonique and plays the quick keys on the
> elect= ric piano would be George Duke...;)
>
> --
> http://moinl= abs.de
> Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs
>>



--
www.luis-angulo.com


---709188601-752557716-1318887686=:59803-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 17 21:44:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1369A183461; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 21:44:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=iIfXCHFom7yr0wTU0ePDqJ0MJmDCBybp005/XYtrLkw=; b=ehGY8Fi0pnR/f5b2dn9KEMUnWDLggkS0tVPM+wsuI5BfOdfs7lgwwLfRNhLAvF1Uke v0QVKDCEnuIJ3jBpvRKIpZRSBeyvzAfRVr1pKmYUP7Kli8HdRpDdrcTyVEOuuAe5iK3W diGDUU6R3kfOGZhMqvwigRmOns0p/y1YwImTg= MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mike Fugazzi Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 16:44:15 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: My Rig To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd3bba05aad4004af858334 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112408 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 21:44:36 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd3bba05aad4004af858334 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Here is the rig I've mentioned in some posts. There is looping here, but it is primarily a gear demo...not a lot of bells and whistles looping. http://youtu.be/SZEiGB5AzsU ---------- Mike Fugazzi vocals/harmonica http://www.mikefugazzi.com Facebook Quicksilver Custom Harmonicas --000e0cd3bba05aad4004af858334 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here is the rig I've mentioned in some posts.=A0 There is looping here,= but it is primarily a gear demo...not a lot of bells and whistles looping.=
http://youtu.be/SZEiGB5AzsU=
----------
Mike Fugazzi
vocals/harmonica
http://www.mikefugazzi.com
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Quicksilver Custom Harmonicas

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To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-3126525-1222655259-1318887882=:21708" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112409 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 21:44:43 +0000 (UTC) ---3126525-1222655259-1318887882=:21708 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy, =0A=0AOr just sit down to a early-mid 80s polysynth and twist a bunc= h of knobs, or throw some sliders about in a haphazard manner. Then hit the= button that says, "front panel controls", or "preset off&qu= ot;.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Louie Angulo <loui= e.angulo@googlemail.com>=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASen= t: Monday, October 17, 2011 2:41 PM=0ASubject: Re: What do YOU do when crea= tivity dries up?=0A=0Ai dont know about you but lately i find that i can ha= rdly be creative=0Aby sitting in front of a PC or screen,by the time i turn= the PC on=0Athere is something distractive right away some damn update or = emails=0Athough sometimes i ve even come up with bits and ideas by watching= TV=0Alate at night and not concentrating specifically on the guitar or eve= n=0Awhats going on TV,just fiddling around,i think sometimes the images=0Aw= ill inspire something unconsciously,like nature channels,devastation,=0Anew= s,etc.=0Ahere are some:=0Awalk alone when is full moon when everyone has go= ne to sleep=0Ago to the movies alone and watch a good film=0Ayes a good boo= k!=0Aor take the road through the forest from the pub late after midnight= =0Ai love walking through the corn fields here in my surroundings while=0At= he horses, sheeps and cows ares still out eating,sit down and observe=0Athe= m=0Ago jogging in nature=0Awinter is perfect,chop wood and build a fire if = u have a=0Afireplace,open up a beer take the acoustic guitar and paper and = sit by=0Ait when everyone else has gone to sleep=0Ai find the kitchen inspi= ring lately,when everyone is gone to=0Awork,there is no PCs or aynthing the= re and the space acoustics of the=0Aroom resonats better when im playing gu= itar than at my cellar,so get=0Aout of your cave and change enviroments if = possible=0Alight up candles and spend sometime alone at night=0Aturn off al= l cell phones and stay away from the PC at least for an hour=0Atake a swim = in the morning and watch the sunrise or just about dawn=0Aand watch the sun= set when there isnt anyone=0Asit donw at a caf=E9 by yourself and observe a= beautiful female,bu dont=0Aforget ot put your sunglasses on;-)=0Alet some = mistery and uncertainty in life,get out of the confort zone=0Alife gives us= so much, is up to us to write about it...=0ALuis=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Mon, = Oct 17, 2011 at 11:00 PM, william middlemiss=0A<billymiddlemiss@gmail.co= m> wrote:=0A> I usually talk to myself. then hike in the woods. then = sleep. I usually,=0A> actually, RUN AWAY from the hot bitches. odds are = that theyre just gonna add=0A> more dirt on an already stifling pile of = neuroses.=0A>=0A> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Phil Clevenger <= ;phil.clevenger@gmail.com>=0A> wrote:=0A>>=0A>> I think t= hat is in the Oblique Strategies already :)=0A>> Sent from my iPhone= =0A>> On Oct 17, 2011, at 12:31 PM, Elmer Fuddski <jakebrakesrule@= yahoo.com>=0A>> wrote:=0A>>=0A>> I like to head to a b= ar and pick up a hot bitch.=A0=A0Now THAT can be really=0A>> inspirin= g!=0A>>=0A>> From: andy soto <musicalmexicana@gmail.com>= =0A>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A>> Sent: Monday= , October 17, 2011 4:36 AM=0A>> Subject: Re: What do YOU do when crea= tivity dries up?=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>> =A0Be interest= ed in EVERYTHING.=0A>>=0A>> =A0Inspiration can come from every = aspect of life.=0A>>=0A>> =A0Andy=0A>>=0A>> On Sun,= Oct 16, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Ingo Ito <ingoito@itofarm.com> wrote:=0A&g= t;>=0A>> Hi Brian,=0A>>=0A>> I had this situation many= times and established some sort of "catalogue"=0A>> for me= ,=A0what could be done against this:=0A>>=0A>> 1. Oblique Strat= egies - always a good first choice.=0A>> 2. As a guitarist, try diffe= rent tunings, especially ones, which you never=0A>> have tried before= .=0A>> 3. Listen to some of your old=A0stuff,=A0which you never have = continued,=0A>> because at that time you didn=B4t had any ideas for i= t - maybe now=B4s the time.=0A>> 4. Establish a "Composing Hour&= quot;, which means that every day at the same=0A>> time (that=B4s bes= t, though different times of the day also work), you sit=0A>> with al= l your equipment (guitars, keyboards, computer, software, boxes - all=0A>= ;> that you have) and force yourself to DO something for one hour - then= stop=0A>> and don=B4t think about the music=A0until you sit there ag= ain the next day. When=0A>> you have a new idea, just record a short = sketch of it. Keep away from=0A>> starting arrangements, into deep so= und tweaking etc. - keep it fast and=0A>> simple and move on to sth. = else. There might be little to none output at the=0A>> beginning, but= the continuity of everyday=B4s working rhythm will get you on=0A>> t= he track again. After one month you=A0listen to your recorded material and= =0A>> then start to add more arrangements, sounds etc. (I got this id= ea from a=0A>> very=A0good book on this subject: "The Art & = Craft of Writing Music" by=0A>> Matthew Nicholl,=0A>> http= ://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/art-and-craft-of-writing-music/16071216= =A0,=0A>> which was originally recommended by Robert Fripp)=0A>>= ; 5. Read a book. Try subjects that are not your favourite crime reading=0A= >> etc., but sth. new to you.=0A>> 6. Go to the cinema. Try fil= ms that are less action and more to=0A>> contemplate about afterwards= .=0A>> 7. Go to a concert. Especially with music, that is not your fa= vourite=0A>> band, but somebody you just have read about in the paper= s or sb. had told=0A>> you it=B4s interesting.=0A>> 8. Go to a = museum or exhibition. If you have talent in doing sketches,=0A>> take= some paper with you and try to make a sketch of one piece of art, which=0A= >> you liked very much. Put this sketch on the wall where you work on= your=0A>> music. Let it inspire you, watch it while you play your in= strument, let your=0A>> musical thoughts meander into every possible = direction and do a simple=0A>> recording of what you play=0A>> = 9. Leave all your musical stuff completely untouched for at least one week= =0A>> (or two, or three...) and DON=B4T worry about it.=0A>> 10= . Okay....buy a box ;-). This one looks interesting, too:=0A>> http:/= /www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dj7-f-t28GOM&feature=3DBFa&list=3DPLA548F= E27426F8D8C&lf=3Dmh_lolz=0A>>=0A>> Hope this helps a bit :-= )=0A>>=0A>> Cheers=0A>>=0A>> Ingo=0A>>=0A>= >=0A>> Ingo Ito=0A>> www.itofarm.com=0A>>=0A>>= =0A>> ----- Original Message -----=0A>> From: BC=0A>> To:= Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A>> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2= 011 6:30 PM=0A>> Subject: What do YOU do when creativity dries up?=0A= >> I'm sure this has been covered in the past before my time here= . Perhaps=0A>> it's=0A>> a good thing to take a fresh look = at the phenomenon and coping strategies=0A>> from time to time.=0A>= ;>=0A>> What do you do when the creative flow diminishes into a cr= eative drip and=0A>> then seemingly dries up completely? You sit at y= our instrument to come up=0A>> with some new ideas and......nothing!= =0A>>=0A>> You have a vague sense that your passion is just not= there. You might even=0A>> feel "cludgy" and awkward at th= e instrument. Aside from letting time pass,=0A>> would anyone like to= share their strategies for minimizing time spent in=0A>> the=0A>&= gt; creative desert?=0A>>=0A>> Brian=0A>>=0A>>=0A&g= t;>=0A>=0A>=0A=0A=0A=0A-- =0Awww.luis-angulo.com ---3126525-1222655259-1318887882=:21708 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy,=0D
=0D
Or just sit down to a early-mid 80s polysynth and = twist a bunch of knobs, or throw some sliders about in a haphazard manner. = Then hit the button that says, "front panel controls", or "p= reset off".
<= hr size=3D"1">From: Louie A= ngulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 2:41 PM<= br>Subject: Re: What do YO= U do when creativity dries up?

=0Ai dont know about you but l= ately i find that i can hardly be creative
by sitting in front of a PC o= r screen,by the time i turn the PC on
there is something distractive rig= ht away some damn update or emails
though sometimes i ve even come up wi= th bits and ideas by watching TV
late at night and not concentrating spe= cifically on the guitar or even
whats going on TV,just fiddling around,i= think sometimes the images
will inspire something unconsciously,like na= ture channels,devastation,
news,etc.
here are some:
walk alone whe= n is full moon when everyone has gone to sleep
go to the movies alone an= d watch a good film
yes a good book!
or take the road through the fo= rest from the pub late after midnight
i love walking through the corn fi= elds here in my surroundings while
the horses, sheeps and cows ares stil= l out eating,sit down and observe
them
go jogging in nature
winter= is perfect,chop wood and build a fire if u have a
fireplace,open up a beer take the acoustic guitar and paper an= d sit by
it when everyone else has gone to sleep
i find the kitchen i= nspiring lately,when everyone is gone to
work,there is no PCs or aynthin= g there and the space acoustics of the
room resonats better when im play= ing guitar than at my cellar,so get
out of your cave and change envirome= nts if possible
light up candles and spend sometime alone at night
tu= rn off all cell phones and stay away from the PC at least for an hour
ta= ke a swim in the morning and watch the sunrise or just about dawn
and wa= tch the sunset when there isnt anyone
sit donw at a caf=E9 by yourself a= nd observe a beautiful female,bu dont
forget ot put your sunglasses on;-= )
let some mistery and uncertainty in life,get out of the confort zonelife gives us so much, is up to us to write about it...
Luis




On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:00 PM, william middlemiss
<billymiddlemiss@gmail.com> wrote:<= BR>> I usually talk to myself. then hike in the woods. then sleep. I usu= ally,
> actually, RUN AWAY from the hot bitches. odds are that theyre= just gonna add
> more dirt on an already stifling pile of neuroses.<= BR>>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Phil Clevenger <phil.clevenger@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>&g= t; I think that is in the Oblique Strategies already :)
>> Sent fr= om my iPhone
>> On Oct 17, 2011, at 12:31 PM, Elmer Fuddski <jakebrakesrule@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>><= BR>>> I like to head to a bar and pick up a hot bitch.=A0=A0Now THAT = can be really
>> inspiring!
>>
>> From: andy soto <= musicalmexicana@gmail.com>
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>= ; Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 4:36 AM
>> Subject: Re: What do Y= OU do when creativity dries up?
>>
>>
>>
>= > =A0Be interested in EVERYTHING.
>>
>> =A0Inspiration= can come from every aspect of life.
>>
>> =A0Andy
>= ;>
>> On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Ingo Ito <ingoito= @itofarm.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Brian,
>>>> I had this situation many times and established some sort of "catalogue"
>> for me,=A0what could be done against this:
>= >
>> 1. Oblique Strategies - always a good first choice.
>= ;> 2. As a guitarist, try different tunings, especially ones, which you = never
>> have tried before.
>> 3. Listen to some of your = old=A0stuff,=A0which you never have continued,
>> because at that = time you didn=B4t had any ideas for it - maybe now=B4s the time.
>>= ; 4. Establish a "Composing Hour", which means that every day at the same>> time (that=B4s best, though different times of the day also work= ), you sit
>> with all your equipment (guitars, keyboards, compute= r, software, boxes - all
>> that you have) and force yourself to D= O something for one hour - then stop
>> and don=B4t think about th= e music=A0until you sit there again the next day. When
>> you have= a new idea, just record a short sketch of it. Keep away from
>> starting arrangements, into deep sound tweaking etc. - keep it fast and>> simple and move on to sth. else. There might be little to none ou= tput at the
>> beginning, but the continuity of everyday=B4s worki= ng rhythm will get you on
>> the track again. After one month you= =A0listen to your recorded material and
>> then start to add more = arrangements, sounds etc. (I got this idea from a
>> very=A0good b= ook on this subject: "The Art & Craft of Writing Music" by
>> = Matthew Nicholl,
>> http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/art-and-= craft-of-writing-music/16071216=A0,
>> which was originally recomm= ended by Robert Fripp)
>> 5. Read a book. Try subjects that are no= t your favourite crime reading
>> etc., but sth. new to you.
&g= t;> 6. Go to the cinema. Try films that are less action and more to
&= gt;> contemplate about afterwards.
>> 7. Go to a concert. Especially with music, that is not your favourite
>> band, but so= mebody you just have read about in the papers or sb. had told
>> y= ou it=B4s interesting.
>> 8. Go to a museum or exhibition. If you = have talent in doing sketches,
>> take some paper with you and try= to make a sketch of one piece of art, which
>> you liked very muc= h. Put this sketch on the wall where you work on your
>> music. Le= t it inspire you, watch it while you play your instrument, let your
>= > musical thoughts meander into every possible direction and do a simple=
>> recording of what you play
>> 9. Leave all your music= al stuff completely untouched for at least one week
>> (or two, or= three...) and DON=B4T worry about it.
>> 10. Okay....buy a box ;-= ). This one looks interesting, too:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dj7-f-t28GOM&feature=3DBFa&list=3DPLA548FE= 27426F8D8C&lf=3Dmh_lolz
>>
>> Hope this helps a bit :-)>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Ingo
>>
&= gt;>
>> Ingo Ito
>> www.itofarm.com
>>
>>
>> = ----- Original Message -----
>> From: BC
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>&g= t; Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 6:30 PM
>> Subject: What do YOU = do when creativity dries up?
>> I'm sure this has been covered in = the past before my time here. Perhaps
>> it's
>> a good t= hing to take a fresh look at the phenomenon and coping strategies
>&g= t; from time to time.
>>
>> What do you do when the creat= ive flow diminishes into a creative drip and
>> then seemingly dries up co= mpletely? You sit at your instrument to come up
>> with some new i= deas and......nothing!
>>
>> You have a vague sense that = your passion is just not there. You might even
>> feel "cludgy" an= d awkward at the instrument. Aside from letting time pass,
>> woul= d anyone like to share their strategies for minimizing time spent in
>= ;> the
>> creative desert?
>>
>> Brian
>= ;>
>>
>>
>
>



--
www.luis-angulo.com


---3126525-1222655259-1318887882=:21708-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 17 21:48:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 23CD918348B; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 21:48:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=TUxUWstDqUR2290QU03L5KP5R9YgY4WGaFD3NkhgtSA=; b=Waiuki6hBXw62N4RwsZdmEejw7xsGuxFrQCmsnm+hUaNd8elNujW8SoY2CBx6zAT36 sbRi0ORJXLUM1Il4A3xL+VSN0+P7d34VcQ+UKfDqliWlY/n0YqYrLvZvCxSf0mlOvBRt h9J/JQlR4dkWw41gDRSJPQ0N1kRLXtQqW1NAE= MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mike Fugazzi Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 16:48:22 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Correct Link To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174938320664f804af8592e8 Resent-Message-ID: <7iFrR.A.sSB.6KKnOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112410 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 21:48:43 +0000 (UTC) --0015174938320664f804af8592e8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZEiGB5AzsU I think I posted this incorrectly the first time. ---------- Mike Fugazzi vocals/harmonica http://www.mikefugazzi.com Facebook Quicksilver Custom Harmonicas --0015174938320664f804af8592e8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.youtube= .com/watch?v=3DSZEiGB5AzsU

I think I posted this incorrectly the= first time.
----------
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--0015174938320664f804af8592e8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 17 23:39:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56F25183461; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 23:39:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Inazs/W3F4YJDGLcwdJNqRoewRSBFE6l5eivMNAuMzQ=; b=QQUuk0DovqpsBbQc9pwxwT+U8lQbdsnMR3Du1az2XhvoUNLdvr2hGL2pC8RasIzbA8 fnrcumEX7MGvLj/Tqo4HLhsmvqveezbDXONDhrPQ2/A5ARNuybTetVVi5fywASSv+7XU uftptRYpPImsc+7Xc55StQ9CgkXqPScemtHzQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1318887882.21708.YahooMailNeo@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <18A0AF9B8EB34E7191D06CA3FB887ECD@ccs.local> <05D8199BEDC94BB6BB416B9C3DCFABC0@itowork2> <1318879913.22891.YahooMailNeo@web38405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <22C15DE8-9347-44A4-8CDA-99DFBB6541D3@gmail.com> <1318887882.21708.YahooMailNeo@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 19:39:31 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? From: william middlemiss To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf300fa94f588abc04af871eec Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112411 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 23:39:32 +0000 (UTC) --20cf300fa94f588abc04af871eec Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In all seriousness- when the 'organic' element leaves my work, or when 'I' am not present in my composing, I do math, and I serialize variables and proceed forward until a form presents itself. My being a former engineering student with a proclivity for working with patterns gave me a history of where to look, and what math to do, but it has become automatic. Completely to the point of 'doing it in my sleep.' Unfortunately, this has backfired and Ive had bouts of sensory overload and recognition of patterns in my daily life to the point that its debilitating= , and it interferes with day-to-day life, but most people don't work with the= m for extended durations (and I'm mildly autistic.) -Make a list of 'safe areas' and proceed outwards, look for the inverse, converse, or other tangential relation to the safe areas.... work in retrograde, from top down, bottom up, front to back, and never store preset= s (find out how it works, so you KNOW what makes the sound, but dont save it.= ) Listen to old works, or dont listen to any of your own work for extended durations. Its all a slow process of moving forward. Oh, look for themes, and if repetition bothers you (haha, repetition bothering a looper's mind....I guess you'd be in the wrong field then....ha= ) then move as far away from the themes as possible. And the most fun one- put a movie on 'mute' and compose an original score, improvised, on the spot. Cheers Billy On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 5:44 PM, bill bigrig wrote: > Howdy, > > Or just sit down to a early-mid 80s polysynth and twist a bunch of knobs, > or throw some sliders about in a haphazard manner. Then hit the button th= at > says, "front panel controls", or "preset off". > ------------------------------ > *From:* Louie Angulo > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Monday, October 17, 2011 2:41 PM > > *Subject:* Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? > > i dont know about you but lately i find that i can hardly be creative > by sitting in front of a PC or screen,by the time i turn the PC on > there is something distractive right away some damn update or emails > though sometimes i ve even come up with bits and ideas by watching TV > late at night and not concentrating specifically on the guitar or even > whats going on TV,just fiddling around,i think sometimes the images > will inspire something unconsciously,like nature channels,devastation, > news,etc. > here are some: > walk alone when is full moon when everyone has gone to sleep > go to the movies alone and watch a good film > yes a good book! > or take the road through the forest from the pub late after midnight > i love walking through the corn fields here in my surroundings while > the horses, sheeps and cows ares still out eating,sit down and observe > them > go jogging in nature > winter is perfect,chop wood and build a fire if u have a > fireplace,open up a beer take the acoustic guitar and paper and sit by > it when everyone else has gone to sleep > i find the kitchen inspiring lately,when everyone is gone to > work,there is no PCs or aynthing there and the space acoustics of the > room resonats better when im playing guitar than at my cellar,so get > out of your cave and change enviroments if possible > light up candles and spend sometime alone at night > turn off all cell phones and stay away from the PC at least for an hour > take a swim in the morning and watch the sunrise or just about dawn > and watch the sunset when there isnt anyone > sit donw at a caf=E9 by yourself and observe a beautiful female,bu dont > forget ot put your sunglasses on;-) > let some mistery and uncertainty in life,get out of the confort zone > life gives us so much, is up to us to write about it... > Luis > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:00 PM, william middlemiss > wrote: > > I usually talk to myself. then hike in the woods. then sleep. I usually= , > > actually, RUN AWAY from the hot bitches. odds are that theyre just gonn= a > add > > more dirt on an already stifling pile of neuroses. > > > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Phil Clevenger < > phil.clevenger@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> I think that is in the Oblique Strategies already :) > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 17, 2011, at 12:31 PM, Elmer Fuddski > >> wrote: > >> > >> I like to head to a bar and pick up a hot bitch. Now THAT can be real= ly > >> inspiring! > >> > >> From: andy soto > >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 4:36 AM > >> Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? > >> > >> > >> > >> Be interested in EVERYTHING. > >> > >> Inspiration can come from every aspect of life. > >> > >> Andy > >> > >> On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Ingo Ito wrote= : > >> > >> Hi Brian, > >> > >> I had this situation many times and established some sort of "catalogu= e" > >> for me, what could be done against this: > >> > >> 1. Oblique Strategies - always a good first choice. > >> 2. As a guitarist, try different tunings, especially ones, which you > never > >> have tried before. > >> 3. Listen to some of your old stuff, which you never have continued, > >> because at that time you didn=B4t had any ideas for it - maybe now=B4s= the > time. > >> 4. Establish a "Composing Hour", which means that every day at the sam= e > >> time (that=B4s best, though different times of the day also work), you= sit > >> with all your equipment (guitars, keyboards, computer, software, boxes= - > all > >> that you have) and force yourself to DO something for one hour - then > stop > >> and don=B4t think about the music until you sit there again the next d= ay. > When > >> you have a new idea, just record a short sketch of it. Keep away from > >> starting arrangements, into deep sound tweaking etc. - keep it fast an= d > >> simple and move on to sth. else. There might be little to none output = at > the > >> beginning, but the continuity of everyday=B4s working rhythm will get = you > on > >> the track again. After one month you listen to your recorded material > and > >> then start to add more arrangements, sounds etc. (I got this idea from= a > >> very good book on this subject: "The Art & Craft of Writing Music" by > >> Matthew Nicholl, > >> > http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/art-and-craft-of-writing-music/1607= 1216 > , > >> which was originally recommended by Robert Fripp) > >> 5. Read a book. Try subjects that are not your favourite crime reading > >> etc., but sth. new to you. > >> 6. Go to the cinema. Try films that are less action and more to > >> contemplate about afterwards. > >> 7. Go to a concert. Especially with music, that is not your favourite > >> band, but somebody you just have read about in the papers or sb. had > told > >> you it=B4s interesting. > >> 8. Go to a museum or exhibition. If you have talent in doing sketches, > >> take some paper with you and try to make a sketch of one piece of art, > which > >> you liked very much. Put this sketch on the wall where you work on you= r > >> music. Let it inspire you, watch it while you play your instrument, le= t > your > >> musical thoughts meander into every possible direction and do a simple > >> recording of what you play > >> 9. Leave all your musical stuff completely untouched for at least one > week > >> (or two, or three...) and DON=B4T worry about it. > >> 10. Okay....buy a box ;-). This one looks interesting, too: > >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dj7-f-t28GOM&feature=3DBFa&list=3DPLA548F= E27426F8D8C&lf=3Dmh_lolz > >> > >> Hope this helps a bit :-) > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> Ingo > >> > >> > >> Ingo Ito > >> www.itofarm.com > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: BC > >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 6:30 PM > >> Subject: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? > >> I'm sure this has been covered in the past before my time here. Perhap= s > >> it's > >> a good thing to take a fresh look at the phenomenon and coping > strategies > >> from time to time. > >> > >> What do you do when the creative flow diminishes into a creative drip > and > >> then seemingly dries up completely? You sit at your instrument to come > up > >> with some new ideas and......nothing! > >> > >> You have a vague sense that your passion is just not there. You might > even > >> feel "cludgy" and awkward at the instrument. Aside from letting time > pass, > >> would anyone like to share their strategies for minimizing time spent = in > >> the > >> creative desert? > >> > >> Brian > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > www.luis-angulo.com > > > > --20cf300fa94f588abc04af871eec Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In all seriousness- when the 'organic' element leaves my work, or w= hen 'I' am not present in my composing, I do math, and I serialize = variables and proceed forward until a form presents itself. My being a form= er engineering student with a proclivity for working with patterns gave me = a history of where to look, and what math to do, but it has become automati= c. Completely to the point of 'doing it in my sleep.'=A0

Unfortunately, this has backfired and Ive had bouts of senso= ry overload and recognition of patterns in my daily life to the point that = its debilitating, and it interferes with day-to-day life, but most people d= on't work with them for extended durations (and I'm mildly autistic= .)

-Make a list of 'safe areas' and proceed outwar= ds, look for the inverse, converse, or other tangential relation to the saf= e areas.... work in retrograde, from top down, bottom up, front to back, an= d never store presets (find out how it works, so you KNOW what makes the so= und, but dont save it.)

Listen to old works, or dont listen to any of your own = work for extended durations.=A0

Its all a slow pro= cess of moving forward.=A0

Oh, look for themes, an= d if repetition bothers you (haha, repetition bothering a looper's mind= ....I guess you'd be in the wrong field then....ha) then move as far aw= ay from the themes as possible.=A0


And the most fun one- put a movie on = 9;mute' and compose an original score, improvised, on the spot.=A0

Cheers
Billy







=


On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 5:44 = PM, bill bigrig <billbigrig@yahoo.com> wrote:
Howdy,

Or just sit down to a early-mid 80s polysynth and twist a bunch of kno= bs, or throw some sliders about in a haphazard manner. Then hit the button = that says, "front panel controls", or "preset off".

From: Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
To:
Loopers-Delight@loopers-de= light.com
Sent: Monda= y, October 17, 2011 2:41 PM

Subject:= Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up?

i dont know about you but lately i find that i can hardly be creative
by= sitting in front of a PC or screen,by the time i turn the PC on
there i= s something distractive right away some damn update or emails
though som= etimes i ve even come up with bits and ideas by watching TV
late at night and not concentrating specifically on the guitar or even
w= hats going on TV,just fiddling around,i think sometimes the images
will = inspire something unconsciously,like nature channels,devastation,
news,e= tc.
here are some:
walk alone when is full moon when everyone has gone to sl= eep
go to the movies alone and watch a good film
yes a good book!
= or take the road through the forest from the pub late after midnight
i love walking through the corn fields here in my surroundings while
the= horses, sheeps and cows ares still out eating,sit down and observe
them=
go jogging in nature
winter is perfect,chop wood and build a fire if u have a
fireplace,open up a beer take the acoustic guitar and paper an= d sit by
it when everyone else has gone to sleep
i find the kitchen i= nspiring lately,when everyone is gone to
work,there is no PCs or aynthin= g there and the space acoustics of the
room resonats better when im playing guitar than at my cellar,so get
out= of your cave and change enviroments if possible
light up candles and sp= end sometime alone at night
turn off all cell phones and stay away from = the PC at least for an hour
take a swim in the morning and watch the sunrise or just about dawn
and = watch the sunset when there isnt anyone
sit donw at a caf=E9 by yourself= and observe a beautiful female,bu dont
forget ot put your sunglasses on= ;-)
let some mistery and uncertainty in life,get out of the confort zone
lif= e gives us so much, is up to us to write about it...
Luis




On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:00 PM, william middlemiss
<billymiddlemiss@gmail.com> wrote:
> I usually talk to m= yself. then hike in the woods. then sleep. I usually,
> actually, RUN= AWAY from the hot bitches. odds are that theyre just gonna add
> more dirt on an already stifling pile of neuroses.
>
> On = Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Phil Clevenger <phil.clevenger@gmail.com>
>= ; wrote:
>>
>> I think that is in the Oblique Strategies already :)>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Oct 17, 2011, at 12:31 PM, El= mer Fuddski <jakebrakesrule@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I like to head to a bar and pick up= a hot bitch.=A0=A0Now THAT can be really
>> inspiring!
>>
>> From: andy soto <= musicalmexic= ana@gmail.com>
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=
>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 4:36 AM
>> Subject: Re: Wh= at do YOU do when creativity dries up?
>>
>>
>><= br>>> =A0Be interested in EVERYTHING.
>>
>> =A0Insp= iration can come from every aspect of life.
>>
>> =A0Andy
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 a= t 11:39 PM, Ingo Ito <ingoito@itofarm.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Brian,=
>>
>> I had this situation many times and established some s= ort of "catalogue"
>> for me,=A0what could be done against thi= s:
>>
>> 1. Oblique Strategies - always a good first choi= ce.
>> 2. As a guitarist, try different tunings, especially ones, = which you never
>> have tried before.
>> 3. Listen to some of your old=A0stu= ff,=A0which you never have continued,
>> because at that time you = didn=B4t had any ideas for it - maybe now=B4s the time.
>> 4. Esta= blish a "Composing Hour", which means that every day at the same<= br> >> time (that=B4s best, though different times of the day also work),= you sit
>> with all your equipment (guitars, keyboards, computer,= software, boxes - all
>> that you have) and force yourself to DO = something for one hour - then stop
>> and don=B4t think about the music=A0until you sit there again the = next day. When
>> you have a new idea, just record a short sketch = of it. Keep away from
>> starting arrangements, into deep sound tweaking etc. - keep it fast and>> simple and move on to sth. else. There might be little to none ou= tput at the
>> beginning, but the continuity of everyday=B4s worki= ng rhythm will get you on
>> the track again. After one month you=A0listen to your recorded mat= erial and
>> then start to add more arrangements, sounds etc. (I g= ot this idea from a
>> very=A0good book on this subject: "The= Art & Craft of Writing Music" by
>> Matthew Nicholl,
>> http= ://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/art-and-craft-of-writing-music/16071216=A0,
>> which was originally recommended by Robert Fripp)
>> 5. R= ead a book. Try subjects that are not your favourite crime reading
>&= gt; etc., but sth. new to you.
>> 6. Go to the cinema. Try films t= hat are less action and more to
>> contemplate about afterwards.
>> 7. Go to a concert. Especially with music, that is not your favourite
>> band, but so= mebody you just have read about in the papers or sb. had told
>> y= ou it=B4s interesting.
>> 8. Go to a museum or exhibition. If you = have talent in doing sketches,
>> take some paper with you and try to make a sketch of one piece of = art, which
>> you liked very much. Put this sketch on the wall whe= re you work on your
>> music. Let it inspire you, watch it while y= ou play your instrument, let your
>> musical thoughts meander into every possible direction and do a si= mple
>> recording of what you play
>> 9. Leave all your m= usical stuff completely untouched for at least one week
>> (or two= , or three...) and DON=B4T worry about it.
>> 10. Okay....buy a box ;-). This one looks interesting, too:
>= ;>
http://ww= w.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dj7-f-t28GOM&feature=3DBFa&list=3DPLA548FE27= 426F8D8C&lf=3Dmh_lolz
>>
>> Hope this helps a bit :-)
>>
>> Chee= rs
>>
>> Ingo
>>
>>
>> Ingo It= o
>> www.itof= arm.com
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> F= rom: BC
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> S= ent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 6:30 PM
>> Subject: What do YOU do when creativity dries up?
>> I= 9;m sure this has been covered in the past before my time here. Perhaps
= >> it's
>> a good thing to take a fresh look at the phen= omenon and coping strategies
>> from time to time.
>>
>> What do you do when the= creative flow diminishes into a creative drip and
>> then seemingly dries up co= mpletely? You sit at your instrument to come up
>> with some new i= deas and......nothing!
>>
>> You have a vague sense that = your passion is just not there. You might even
>> feel "cludgy" and awkward at the instrument. Aside from = letting time pass,
>> would anyone like to share their strategies = for minimizing time spent in
>> the
>> creative desert? >>
>> Brian
>>
>>
>>
>
&= gt;



--
www.luis-angulo.com




--20cf300fa94f588abc04af871eec-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 17 23:58:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0C6418345D; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 23:58:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=x4FMM2icjZcpR6xaH8PVCBtstIsb2/vBYscg4L0dh9o=; b=f9n7mtfdREkIQ30+KmX1vh/NBXKF0cL3fPTngI/jMyQf2cpvzthTp0nMFlXmeCfHTh B1EtR1FIUDuRfoZcJUOPStG7w/s6FKHQQle/nxepxwl0g+fA9hSrd3MvU+tws+obEDNv k4kDPtFx0W7sbaoOUXtdGAhXNsFWGICbVH5ZU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <18A0AF9B8EB34E7191D06CA3FB887ECD@ccs.local> <05D8199BEDC94BB6BB416B9C3DCFABC0@itowork2> <1318879913.22891.YahooMailNeo@web38405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <22C15DE8-9347-44A4-8CDA-99DFBB6541D3@gmail.com> <1318887882.21708.YahooMailNeo@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 16:58:08 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <10YdBC.A.4YD.REMnOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112412 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 23:58:09 +0000 (UTC) I've noticed that when I get sick (cold, flu, etc.) I tend to have at least one night, maybe two, where I spend nearly all of my dream time working on one VERY simple math problem over and over and over and over and, you get the idea. Usually I will break the fever, sickness shortly after that night's dreaming. Just saying... Kevin On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 4:39 PM, william middlemiss wrote: > In all seriousness- when the 'organic' element leaves my work, or when 'I= ' > am not present in my composing, I do math, and I serialize variables and > proceed forward until a form presents itself. My being a former engineeri= ng > student with a proclivity for working with patterns gave me a history of > where to look, and what math to do, but it has become automatic. Complete= ly > to the point of 'doing it in my sleep.'=A0-- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 18 00:14:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C3CC183465; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 00:14:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=2RKVToS7R/Su/YdPPQiBi19brDTLISke/knr9pXSooU=; b=Ncw3v5F8gACzs5W+pGLoxH9qdXF/ox+hiZ4OsY8AeyjYLg3s2D2XV2xaFjSnlyp6/S wK8W8LbQPcY+ZjQfW8zKbjEyQ4DTLpATEWlKrun9R5fqGdXpEV8nyQlzq3qohkAvjKRB OHgeUUqMkL3jJC0rhMPwRhaSEFNw7/4MXDpcg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <18A0AF9B8EB34E7191D06CA3FB887ECD@ccs.local> <05D8199BEDC94BB6BB416B9C3DCFABC0@itowork2> <1318879913.22891.YahooMailNeo@web38405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <22C15DE8-9347-44A4-8CDA-99DFBB6541D3@gmail.com> <1318887882.21708.YahooMailNeo@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 20:14:04 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? From: william middlemiss To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e651378aea503404af8799a1 Resent-Message-ID: <3kzBYC.A.wwD.NTMnOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112413 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 00:14:05 +0000 (UTC) --0016e651378aea503404af8799a1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Kevin, thats interesting. I wonder if concentrated focus is better for the mind & therefor the body. It would make sense that 'creative blocks' would also be due to lack of concentrated focus. On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > I've noticed that when I get sick (cold, flu, etc.) I tend to have at > least one night, maybe two, where I spend nearly all of my dream time > working on one VERY simple math problem over and over and over and > over and, you get the idea. Usually I will break the fever, sickness > shortly after that night's dreaming. > > Just saying... > > Kevin > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 4:39 PM, william middlemiss > wrote: > > In all seriousness- when the 'organic' element leaves my work, or when > 'I' > > am not present in my composing, I do math, and I serialize variables and > > proceed forward until a form presents itself. My being a former > engineering > > student with a proclivity for working with patterns gave me a history of > > where to look, and what math to do, but it has become automatic. > Completely > > to the point of 'doing it in my sleep.' -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > --0016e651378aea503404af8799a1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kevin, thats interesting. I wonder if concentrated focus is better for the = mind & therefor the body. It would make sense that 'creative blocks= ' would also be due to lack of concentrated focus.=A0


--0016e651378aea503404af8799a1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 18 02:07:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 11CEA183460; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 02:07:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=yTed4Gt/8IV7M5gGmv4BKuaoaNZkWOiRsgTCbe3bh3I=; b=GTz7Q/5kB380P6IF7FhhJcLBybiTXTCsNiXYU37Y7v7XiI8WAOrprBr3WLtJE73X99 MFzE99C0hYFSGFJZCYldWLbJT5eiZxaQq/sZEgven+uaim490HTBnC6t/crVd5pZl7rB qyY6RSuXLr+ll8ytGBfISYfH1psrMb63+K5j0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <18A0AF9B8EB34E7191D06CA3FB887ECD@ccs.local> <05D8199BEDC94BB6BB416B9C3DCFABC0@itowork2> <1318879913.22891.YahooMailNeo@web38405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <22C15DE8-9347-44A4-8CDA-99DFBB6541D3@gmail.com> <1318887882.21708.YahooMailNeo@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 22:07:34 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5216251d6c37604af892f49 Resent-Message-ID: <-Umd-.A.gRF.n9NnOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112414 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 02:07:35 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec5216251d6c37604af892f49 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 One thing that often get's me back into the swing of things is participating over at ImprovFriday http://improvfriday.com Always fun and there are so many really supportive and talented musicians there, give it a shot. :) j --bcaec5216251d6c37604af892f49 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
One thing that often get's me back into the swing of things is par= ticipating over at ImprovFriday http://= improvfriday.com

Always fun and there are so many really support= ive and talented musicians there, give it a shot. :)

j

=A0
--bcaec5216251d6c37604af892f49-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 18 05:01:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9EA4B183462; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 05:01:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 05:01:00 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 23:49:03 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Video Performance 10.23.09 Lowell MA Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Experimental Film Discussion List Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <1wjRC.A.CHH.NgQnOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112415 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 05:01:01 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I'll be doing video improvisations at 119 Gallery (my favorite performance space) at the following event> This is part of Walter's 70th birthday celebration -- help him celebrate! VGA/DNA02: Dream Zoo + Breault Wood Duo + Double Vision Saturday October 22 8pm, donation gratefully received (passed on to the visiting artists) Dream Zoo: [Brooklyn NY] Valerie Kuehne - songs, cello, vox Lucio Menegon - guitar Jeff Young - violin Sean Ali - bass, auxiliary percussion + Rick Breault - laptop and Elaine Wood - live video [Lowell] + Double Vision: [Boston, Lowell] Joe Burgio, Betty Wang - movement Wisteriax - cello, electronics Dr T, Walter Wright - live video open jam, other performers are free to join in. The second of four performances, part of the current exhibit, VGA / DNA. The evening kicks off with the surreal music of Dream Zoo featuring outstanding musicians and interpreters of the subconscious. Followed by Rick and Elaine, whose sound and video pieces grow stronger with each performance. Finally a set by Double Vision, two video artists share the screen with improvised music by Wisteriax and movement by Joe Burgio and Betty Wang (bodydrama). Dr T and I, first performed together at the VOIX in Lowell in 1994. The VOIX was the first venue where I performed video live with Maria Moran aka Zipperspy. 119 Chelmsford St Lowell, MA 01851 8:30 PM http://www.119gallery.org/ Culinary note: There is an outstanding Cambodian restaurant next door to the gallery. -- My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 18 09:02:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECD53183461; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 09:02:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1659 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 09:02:36 UTC From: Reyn Ouwehand Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_88113392-41F7-4903-8961-DFA0DF3182D4" Subject: Reyn vs Brazilia Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 10:34:46 +0200 Message-Id: <6E9B1B27-1EA8-444D-A496-C272BEF976A2@reyn.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-Authenticated-Sender: reynouwehand@quicknet.nl (via SMTP) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1RG58K-0001WN-5s X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-2.899, vereist 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: loopers-delight@reyn.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112416 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 09:02:36 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_88113392-41F7-4903-8961-DFA0DF3182D4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Guys and Grrls, I'm going to do some kind of musical exchange project with Brazil. Do = you guys know any great sound artists, electronic musicians, percussion = players or even loopers? Should be a bit contemporary, not too = traditional. Cheers, Reyn www.reyn.net www.studiothechurch.com --Apple-Mail=_88113392-41F7-4903-8961-DFA0DF3182D4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Cheers,

Reyn

www.reyn.net
www.studiothechurch.com

= --Apple-Mail=_88113392-41F7-4903-8961-DFA0DF3182D4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 18 09:07:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1645183464; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 09:07:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E9D41BE.6020802@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 02:07:10 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110920 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve U CC: Peter Cor , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Future of the Y2K Live Looping Festivals References: <1318911742.67706.YahooMailClassic@web83605.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112417 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 09:07:18 +0000 (UTC) To the entire International Live Looping Festival and all who have ever come to Northern California to perform or attend it. I created some confusion about the future of the Y2K International Live Looping Festival in the past year because I had announced that I was giving it up and retiring from doing it. This has changed. This is going to be a rather long post but I want to be clear about how the festival is going to proceed (with some very exciting new changes, globally) Sooooooo........... What happened was that I wanted a smooth transition to occur between the volunteers who wanted to keep the festival going and the way I've done it in the past (which was to take on the lion's share of the work) and I felt very burned out from having worked on the festival for free for 12 months out of last year and felt my artistry was really suffering because of it. Three things happened that mitigated that approach, however: 1) I had a very busy year and just didn't have time until late in the game to try and train people 2) A couple of people who I had dearly hoped would take the festival over ended up not being reliable and I felt insecure about the festival's future. 3) Several people stepped forward and told me that they'd help me continue by taking some significant load off of my back, so I could get back to being an artist again. To whit: Maha Taitano, became a completely reliable, hard working, and enormously resourceful and quick learning assistant to me. Her help was just invaluable and , honestly, gave me the renewed energy and excitement to continue. Her coordination of front of house, MC-ing (a huge load off of my shoulders not to have to MC all 30 hours of the festival as in past years), video projection and many loose end jobs, Steve Uccello, completely took up the publicity and did a fantastic job as a relative newbie. Trevor McClaine took on the mantle of the sound system (with generous donations of sound and lights from his father, Daniel Thomas), Rodent did another incredibly professional job of stage managing, Fabio Anile created the poster and manned the website (thanks to Chris Roberts generous donations to keep it running) and, to top it all of, my brother Bill and wife, Chris really helped out with transportaion, housing and cleaning. Bill also really was a stalwart in helping artists get on and off stage during the marathon of the festival. We all did a fantastic job this year, it was a really fairly stressful year (aside from some minor prima-donnisms) and I learned that I still love doing it and participating in it when I'm not overly crazed from too much work. So. I think I will accept more help in the future and delegate even more tasks but stay in charge of the shape of the festival (from a performers' standpoint) and the overall vibe of the festival. We are a team now, however, and I really trust and value advice and offers of improvement from these amazing people who put the festival on this year. Additionally, Florence, Rome, Koln, Berlin, possibly, Munchen, Singapore, Osaka and perhaps a few other cities are going to officially join the festival in doing satellite festivals around the world in the next several years. I'm so excited about this that I can't tell you. For me, it's a dream come true. I probably will never make it as gigantic as last year (70 artists from 17 countries in 6 days in 3 cities) and think the festival will probably end up around 50 artists from however many countries in 6 days in 3 cities. This makes a much more 'doable concert schedule' A date for headliners and featured performers in San Jose and San Francisco and three nights and two days of main festival in Santa Cruz. APPLICATION for the FESTIVAL and RULES of PERFORMANCE will be posted on the website at www.y2kloopfest.com. I will start taking applications to play the festival on August 1st (and NOT before) unless an artist is from very far away or are balancing important touring schedule considerations. Please respect this boundary. I want a minimum of 9 months of each year to be an artist who doesn't have to be working on the festival. Remember, I am doing this for free. Additionally, as in past years............I will continue to favor performances of artists who come from very far away (out of the country or from far across the country) and I will also tend to try and balance participation between artists who have played before and artists who have not played before giving precedence to artists who have been consistently strong crowd pleasers and artists who have consistently supported the festival since it's inception. Additionally, I will continue to try and encourage relative and sometimes even completely inexperienced newbies to the festival in the early hours of each of the weekend days. It's not lost on me that people as talented as Zoe Keating, last years, Laurie Amat and this year's Pete Novembre have been newbies at this festival and I want to encourage the building of community and the encouragement and nurturance of new artistry. This is hugely important to me and a very, very rare thing in world wide musical festivals for the most part. My intention is to accept everyone but the demand for the festival has grown. I will try to be as fair as possible, I promise you. Also, like last year, If there isn't space for everyone, then I will highly encourage people to create satellite performances to attach to the festival if they are willing to take on the entire job of producing such festivals themselves. Last year we had an impromptu "Newbie Festival" on Thursday night. The more we build, the better it will be. So, tomorrow, I drive to San Francisco to help take back several artists to the airport and the festival will be finally over for this year. It was one of the best we've ever had and absolutely the most enjoyable for yours truly. Bless this community and it's wonderful artists for their participation. My life is infinitely better because of their love, committment and talent. much love, Rick Walker founder/director Y2K International Live Looping Festivals www.y2kloopfest.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 18 10:28:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DCAA183463; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 10:28:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=j3hB5QN9k068BhkL+E1eVzcOaST7+vaRKLmEzPB4fRk=; b=mBa3gY4A0c0wQleOjrDPqdg27Aozzle5mkMaAQPr5pCbnhguuRaNBJ1FJT/WbmosKa 0CLz9U63pkzPK8IHrhjQ7zcdZIXjXSZ+6lDTsP9BHrp6yNdlFQcxXE6uqh46vozdySrC eiIjhk2mhExSDKT4Rd/FBXEpcocMfcUwtPdIY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E9D41BE.6020802@cruzio.com> References: <1318911742.67706.YahooMailClassic@web83605.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4E9D41BE.6020802@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 06:28:48 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Future of the Y2K Live Looping Festivals From: Thomas Wegmann To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364267895f419e04af9030eb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112418 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 10:28:50 +0000 (UTC) --0016364267895f419e04af9030eb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Great to hear Rick! I am sure all the performers respect your decision and are happy you will continue to lead and inspire the festival. I would love to attend next year if the funds are available. Enjoy the next 9 months! Weg On Oct 18, 2011 5:07 AM, "Rick Walker" wrote: > To the entire International Live Looping Festival and all who have ever > come to > Northern California to perform or attend it. > > I created some confusion about the future of the Y2K International Live > Looping Festival > in the past year because I had announced that I was giving it up and > retiring from doing > it. This has changed. > > This is going to be a rather long post but I want to be clear about how the > festival > is going to proceed (with some very exciting new changes, globally) > > Sooooooo........... > > What happened was that I wanted a smooth transition to occur between the > volunteers who > wanted to keep the festival going and the way I've done it in the past > (which was to take on the lion's > share of the work) and I felt very burned out from having worked on the > festival for free for > 12 months out of last year and felt my artistry was really suffering > because of it. > > Three things happened that mitigated that approach, however: > > 1) I had a very busy year and just didn't have time until late in the game > to try and train people > 2) A couple of people who I had dearly hoped would take the festival over > ended up not being > reliable and I felt insecure about the festival's future. > 3) Several people stepped forward and told me that they'd help me continue > by taking some significant > load off of my back, so I could get back to being an artist again. > > To whit: Maha Taitano, became a completely reliable, hard working, and > enormously resourceful > and quick learning assistant to me. Her help was just invaluable and , > honestly, gave me the renewed > energy and excitement to continue. Her coordination of front of house, > MC-ing (a huge load off of my shoulders > not to have to MC all 30 hours of the festival as in past years), video > projection and many loose end jobs, Steve Uccello, completely took up the > publicity and did a fantastic job as a relative newbie. Trevor McClaine > took on the mantle of the sound system (with generous donations of sound and > lights from his father, Daniel Thomas), Rodent did another incredibly > professional job of stage managing, Fabio Anile created the poster and > manned the website > (thanks to Chris Roberts generous donations to keep it running) and, to top > it all of, my brother Bill and wife, Chris really helped out with > transportaion, housing and cleaning. Bill also really was a stalwart in > helping artists get on and off stage during the marathon of the festival. > > We all did a fantastic job this year, it was a really fairly stressful year > (aside from some minor prima-donnisms) and > I learned that I still love doing it and participating in it when I'm not > overly crazed from too much > work. > > So. I think I will accept more help in the future and delegate even more > tasks but stay in charge of the shape of the festival (from a performers' > standpoint) and the > overall vibe of the festival. > > We are a team now, however, and I really trust and value advice and offers > of improvement from these > amazing people who put the festival on this year. > > Additionally, Florence, Rome, Koln, Berlin, possibly, Munchen, Singapore, > Osaka and perhaps a few other > cities are going to officially join the festival in doing satellite > festivals around the world in the next several > years. > > I'm so excited about this that I can't tell you. For me, it's a dream come > true. > > I probably will never make it as gigantic as last year (70 artists from 17 > countries in 6 days in 3 cities) and think the festival will probably end up > around 50 artists from however many countries in 6 days in 3 cities. > > This makes a much more 'doable concert schedule' A date for headliners > and featured performers > in San Jose and San Francisco and three nights and two days of main > festival in Santa Cruz. > > APPLICATION for the FESTIVAL and RULES of PERFORMANCE will be posted on the > website > at www.y2kloopfest.com. > > I will start taking applications to play the festival on August 1st (and > NOT before) > unless an artist is from very far away or are balancing important touring > schedule considerations. > > Please respect this boundary. I want a minimum of 9 months of each year > to be an artist who doesn't have > to be working on the festival. Remember, I am doing this for free. > > Additionally, as in past years............I will continue to favor > performances of artists who come from > very far away (out of the country or from far across the country) and I > will also tend to try and balance > participation between artists who have played before and artists who have > not played before giving > precedence to artists who have been consistently strong crowd pleasers and > artists who have consistently > supported the festival since it's inception. > > Additionally, I will continue to try and encourage relative and sometimes > even completely > inexperienced newbies to the festival in the early hours of each of the > weekend days. > > It's not lost on me that people as talented as Zoe Keating, last years, > Laurie Amat and this year's Pete Novembre have been newbies at this > festival and I want to encourage the building of community and the > encouragement and > nurturance of new artistry. This is hugely important to me and a very, > very rare thing in world wide musical festivals for the most part. > > My intention is to accept everyone but the demand for the festival has > grown. > I will try to be as fair as possible, I promise you. > > Also, like last year, If there isn't space for everyone, then I will > highly encourage people to create > satellite performances to attach to the festival if they are willing to > take on the entire job of producing such > festivals themselves. Last year we had an impromptu "Newbie Festival" on > Thursday night. > > The more we build, the better it will be. > > So, tomorrow, I drive to San Francisco to help take back several artists > to the airport and the festival will be finally over for this year. > > It was one of the best we've ever had and absolutely the most enjoyable for > yours truly. > > Bless this community and it's wonderful artists for their participation. > My life is infinitely better because of their love, committment and talent. > > much love, Rick Walker founder/director Y2K International Live Looping > Festivals > www.y2kloopfest.com > > > --0016364267895f419e04af9030eb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Great to hear Rick!=A0 I am sure all the performers respect your decisio= n and are happy you will continue to lead and inspire the festival.=A0=A0 I= would love to attend next year if the funds are available.=A0 Enjoy the ne= xt 9 months!=A0 Weg

On Oct 18, 2011 5:07 AM, "Rick Walker"= <looppool@cruzio.com> wro= te:
To the entire International Live Looping Festival and all who have ever com= e to
Northern California to perform or attend it.

I created some confusion about the future of the Y2K International Live Loo= ping Festival
in the past year because I had announced that I was giving it up and retiri= ng from doing
it. =A0 This has changed.

This is going to be a rather long post but I want to be clear about how the= festival
is going to proceed (with some very exciting new changes, globally)

Sooooooo...........

What happened was that I wanted a smooth transition to occur between the vo= lunteers who
wanted to keep the festival going and the way I've done it in the past = (which was to take on the lion's
share of the work) and I felt very burned out from having worked on the fes= tival for free for
12 months out of last year and felt my artistry was really suffering becaus= e of it.

Three things happened that mitigated that approach, however:

1) =A0I had a very busy year and just didn't have time until late in th= e game to try and train people
2) =A0A couple of people who I had dearly hoped would take the festival ove= r ended up not being
reliable and I felt insecure about the festival's future.
3) =A0Several people stepped forward and told me that they'd help me co= ntinue by taking some significant
load off of my back, so I could get back to being an artist again.

To whit: =A0 =A0Maha Taitano, =A0became a completely reliable, hard working= , and enormously resourceful
and quick learning assistant to me. =A0 =A0 Her help was just invaluable an= d , honestly, =A0gave me the renewed
energy and excitement to continue. Her coordination of front of house, MC-i= ng (a huge load off of my shoulders
not to have to MC all 30 hours of the festival as in past years), video pro= jection and many loose end jobs, =A0Steve Uccello, completely took up the p= ublicity and did a fantastic job as a relative newbie. =A0 Trevor McClaine = took on the mantle of the sound system (with generous donations of sound an= d lights from his father, Daniel Thomas), Rodent did another incredibly pro= fessional job of stage managing, =A0Fabio Anile created the poster and mann= ed the website
(thanks to Chris Roberts generous donations to keep it running) and, to top= it all of, =A0 my brother Bill and wife, Chris really helped out with tran= sportaion, housing and cleaning. =A0 =A0Bill also really was a stalwart in = helping artists get on and off stage during the marathon of the festival.
We all did a fantastic job this year, it was a really fairly stressful year= (aside from some minor prima-donnisms) and
I learned that I still love doing it and participating in it when I'm n= ot overly crazed from too much
work.

So. =A0I think I will accept more help in the future and delegate even more=
tasks but stay in charge of the shape of the festival (from a performers= 9; standpoint) and the
overall vibe of the festival.

We are a team now, however, =A0and I really trust and value advice and offe= rs of improvement from these
amazing people who put the festival on this year.

Additionally, =A0Florence, Rome, Koln, Berlin, possibly, Munchen, =A0Singap= ore, =A0Osaka and perhaps a few other
cities are going to officially join the festival in doing satellite festiva= ls around the world in the next several
years.

I'm so excited about this that I can't tell you. =A0For me, it'= s a dream come true.

I probably will never make it as gigantic as last year (70 artists from 17 = countries in 6 days in 3 cities) and think the festival will probably end u= p around 50 artists from however many countries in 6 days in 3 cities.

This makes a much more 'doable concert schedule' =A0 =A0 A date for= headliners and featured performers
in San Jose and San Francisco and three nights and two days of main festiva= l in Santa Cruz.

APPLICATION for the FESTIVAL and RULES of PERFORMANCE will be posted on the= website
at =A0 =A0 =A0 www= .y2kloopfest.com.

=A0I will start taking applications to play the festival on August 1st (and= NOT before)
unless an artist is from very far away or are balancing important touring s= chedule considerations.

Please respect this boundary. =A0 =A0I want a minimum of 9 months of each y= ear to be an artist who doesn't have
to be working on the festival. =A0Remember, =A0I am doing this for free.
Additionally, =A0as in past years............I will continue to favor perfo= rmances of artists who come from
very far away (out of the country or from far across the country) and I wil= l also tend to try and balance
participation between artists who have played before and artists who have n= ot played before giving
precedence to artists who have been consistently strong crowd pleasers and = artists who have consistently
supported the festival since it's inception.

Additionally, =A0I will continue to try and encourage relative and sometime= s even completely
inexperienced newbies to the festival in the early hours of each of the wee= kend days.

It's not lost on me that people as talented as Zoe Keating, last years,= Laurie Amat and =A0this year's =A0Pete Novembre have been newbies at t= his festival and I want to encourage the building of community and the enco= uragement and
nurturance of new artistry. =A0 This is hugely important to me and a very, = very rare thing in world wide musical festivals for the most part.

My intention is to accept everyone but the demand for the festival has grow= n.
I will try to be as fair as possible, I promise you.

Also, like last year, =A0If there isn't space for everyone, then I will= highly encourage people to create
satellite performances to attach to the festival if they are willing to tak= e on the entire job of producing such
festivals themselves. =A0 =A0Last year we had an impromptu "Newbie Fes= tival" on Thursday night.

The more we build, =A0the better it will be.

So, =A0 tomorrow, I drive to San Francisco to help take back several artist= s to the airport and the festival will be finally over for this year.

It was one of the best we've ever had and absolutely the most enjoyable= for yours truly.

Bless this community and it's wonderful artists for their participation= .
My life is infinitely better because of their love, committment and talent.=

much love, =A0 Rick Walker founder/director Y2K International Live Looping = Festivals
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 www.y2kloopfest.com


--0016364267895f419e04af9030eb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 18 13:44:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7EE1918345D; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 13:44:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=CPTew/5NTs9Ks2DqQGkC0Evc1jLqpJ4pkqh5CYbvtW8=; b=kSfe7U+0J3atFhXsyiiDg3jPH5ybxS2ey+wPCLQAt3ss5a+K4pIZAuhcAHKQMBVllQ O3EOVQlJq68O7yU0DtfDw093+v3xi6eb/IUruOzIj3l51c6lLAXmCvwIFMqTSbUrJ4l+ BHx2DaPCPZiT3tlP3bUKyf/LveUXlvblhh/LU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 09:44:12 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looping for rehearsal, record/listen/record/ ... From: Michael Ellis To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=002215b02f9e271e9a04af92eb86 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112419 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 13:44:13 +0000 (UTC) --002215b02f9e271e9a04af92eb86 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Just to close the loop (groan), here's a link to a post in the SooperLooper forum that contains the script I wrote for doing alternate record/playback in SooperLooper. Works for any number of bars with arbitrary meter and tempo changes. http://www.essej.net/slforum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1383&p=2666#p2666 Cheers, Mike On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Michael Ellis wrote: > After some more searching, I came across SooperLooper (SL) , a free > programmable looper program that runs on OS-X and Linux under JACK. > Installation was straightforward. Had to RTFM to figure out how > JackPilot works but it really didn't take long to get connected to the > built-in devices on my Mac. > > I'm not familiar with OSC, the programmable control interface used by > SL, but there seems to be an active section of discussions on the SL > forum and I've posted a request there and offered to share any script > I cobble together for alternating record/playback cycles. > --002215b02f9e271e9a04af92eb86 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just to close the loop (groan), =A0here's a link to a post in the Soope= rLooper forum that contains the script I wrote for doing alternate record/p= layback in SooperLooper. =A0 Works for any number of bars with arbitrary me= ter and tempo changes. =A0=A0


Ch= eers,
Mike


On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Michael= Ellis <m= ichael.f.ellis@gmail.com> wrote:
After some more searching, I came across SooperLooper (SL) , a free
programmable looper program that runs on OS-X and Linux under JACK.
Installation was straightforward. =A0Had to RTFM to figure out how
JackPilot works but it really didn't take long to get connected to the<= br> built-in devices on my Mac.

I'm not familiar with OSC, the programmable control interface used by SL, =A0but there seems to be an active section of discussions on the SL
forum and I've posted a request there and offered to share any script I cobble together for alternating record/playback cycles.

--002215b02f9e271e9a04af92eb86-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 18 15:00:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A74F2183463; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 15:00:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=1E7dFEyTFp0y04xJ7sIzlu+1t3L1VZnVLPcQB1/b7KA=; b=t0d0Dp2XARClWFngM6zaTnLlgs60/Ep9XOUJsnPUiz25y81X+qOd0U7I0gfaggg6OE 3fnK+r5mIFu8GTGEGhPVaGG49W5Qc9Yf8fdkaLDXCB/KegUPLng6czji0v++hhCJk9CB VxeqSGuNQd/5sGAS6mJAKUqjFAs2zeVGLUYf4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E9D41BE.6020802@cruzio.com> References: <1318911742.67706.YahooMailClassic@web83605.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4E9D41BE.6020802@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 11:00:11 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Future of the Y2K Live Looping Festivals From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Steve U , Peter Cor Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3079b74ce82c8204af93faf0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112420 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 15:00:12 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3079b74ce82c8204af93faf0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rick that's a wonderful report and a wonderful overview. Congrats on pulling through, reinventing the wheel in some way but yet keeping this 'flame' alive. I was sad to not be there this year but won't hash that horse again and will look fwd to the time I can. Forgive me if I was a tad pointed about the streaming thing and the value of that for us who had been before but were not there this year, purely selfish honestly. Still I know the plate was full for add'l tasks such as that. Kudos to Per for stepping up, documenting and posting playback so quickly which was almost as good as a stream and the beauty of that is I still have much to catch up on watching. I think it's most exciting your renewed energy, your new team of support an= d the fact that Y2K has spawned to a global event. Congrats to your new found team who rallied to the call and made this year happen. I look foward to the future of the Y2K series of looping and experimental music. Best to all Jim On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 5:07 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > To the entire International Live Looping Festival and all who have ever > come to > Northern California to perform or attend it. > > I created some confusion about the future of the Y2K International Live > Looping Festival > in the past year because I had announced that I was giving it up and > retiring from doing > it. This has changed. > > This is going to be a rather long post but I want to be clear about how t= he > festival > is going to proceed (with some very exciting new changes, globally) > > Sooooooo........... > > What happened was that I wanted a smooth transition to occur between the > volunteers who > wanted to keep the festival going and the way I've done it in the past > (which was to take on the lion's > share of the work) and I felt very burned out from having worked on the > festival for free for > 12 months out of last year and felt my artistry was really suffering > because of it. > > Three things happened that mitigated that approach, however: > > 1) I had a very busy year and just didn't have time until late in the ga= me > to try and train people > 2) A couple of people who I had dearly hoped would take the festival ove= r > ended up not being > reliable and I felt insecure about the festival's future. > 3) Several people stepped forward and told me that they'd help me contin= ue > by taking some significant > load off of my back, so I could get back to being an artist again. > > To whit: Maha Taitano, became a completely reliable, hard working, an= d > enormously resourceful > and quick learning assistant to me. Her help was just invaluable and = , > honestly, gave me the renewed > energy and excitement to continue. Her coordination of front of house, > MC-ing (a huge load off of my shoulders > not to have to MC all 30 hours of the festival as in past years), video > projection and many loose end jobs, Steve Uccello, completely took up th= e > publicity and did a fantastic job as a relative newbie. Trevor McClaine > took on the mantle of the sound system (with generous donations of sound = and > lights from his father, Daniel Thomas), Rodent did another incredibly > professional job of stage managing, Fabio Anile created the poster and > manned the website > (thanks to Chris Roberts generous donations to keep it running) and, to t= op > it all of, my brother Bill and wife, Chris really helped out with > transportaion, housing and cleaning. Bill also really was a stalwart i= n > helping artists get on and off stage during the marathon of the festival. > > We all did a fantastic job this year, it was a really fairly stressful ye= ar > (aside from some minor prima-donnisms) and > I learned that I still love doing it and participating in it when I'm not > overly crazed from too much > work. > > So. I think I will accept more help in the future and delegate even more > tasks but stay in charge of the shape of the festival (from a performers' > standpoint) and the > overall vibe of the festival. > > We are a team now, however, and I really trust and value advice and offe= rs > of improvement from these > amazing people who put the festival on this year. > > Additionally, Florence, Rome, Koln, Berlin, possibly, Munchen, Singapor= e, > Osaka and perhaps a few other > cities are going to officially join the festival in doing satellite > festivals around the world in the next several > years. > > I'm so excited about this that I can't tell you. For me, it's a dream co= me > true. > > I probably will never make it as gigantic as last year (70 artists from 1= 7 > countries in 6 days in 3 cities) and think the festival will probably end= up > around 50 artists from however many countries in 6 days in 3 cities. > > This makes a much more 'doable concert schedule' A date for headliner= s > and featured performers > in San Jose and San Francisco and three nights and two days of main > festival in Santa Cruz. > > APPLICATION for the FESTIVAL and RULES of PERFORMANCE will be posted on t= he > website > at www.y2kloopfest.com. > > I will start taking applications to play the festival on August 1st (and > NOT before) > unless an artist is from very far away or are balancing important touring > schedule considerations. > > Please respect this boundary. I want a minimum of 9 months of each yea= r > to be an artist who doesn't have > to be working on the festival. Remember, I am doing this for free. > > Additionally, as in past years............I will continue to favor > performances of artists who come from > very far away (out of the country or from far across the country) and I > will also tend to try and balance > participation between artists who have played before and artists who have > not played before giving > precedence to artists who have been consistently strong crowd pleasers an= d > artists who have consistently > supported the festival since it's inception. > > Additionally, I will continue to try and encourage relative and sometime= s > even completely > inexperienced newbies to the festival in the early hours of each of the > weekend days. > > It's not lost on me that people as talented as Zoe Keating, last years, > Laurie Amat and this year's Pete Novembre have been newbies at this > festival and I want to encourage the building of community and the > encouragement and > nurturance of new artistry. This is hugely important to me and a very, > very rare thing in world wide musical festivals for the most part. > > My intention is to accept everyone but the demand for the festival has > grown. > I will try to be as fair as possible, I promise you. > > Also, like last year, If there isn't space for everyone, then I will > highly encourage people to create > satellite performances to attach to the festival if they are willing to > take on the entire job of producing such > festivals themselves. Last year we had an impromptu "Newbie Festival" = on > Thursday night. > > The more we build, the better it will be. > > So, tomorrow, I drive to San Francisco to help take back several artist= s > to the airport and the festival will be finally over for this year. > > It was one of the best we've ever had and absolutely the most enjoyable f= or > yours truly. > > Bless this community and it's wonderful artists for their participation. > My life is infinitely better because of their love, committment and talen= t. > > much love, Rick Walker founder/director Y2K International Live Looping > Festivals > www.y2kloopfest.com > > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf3079b74ce82c8204af93faf0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rick that's a wonderful report and a wonderful overview.=A0 Congra= ts on pulling through, reinventing the wheel in some way but yet keeping th= is 'flame' alive.=A0 I was sad to not be there this year but won= 9;t hash that horse again and will look fwd to the time I can.=A0 Forgive m= e if I was a tad pointed about the streaming thing and the value of that fo= r us who had been before but were not there this year, purely selfish hones= tly.=A0 Still I know the plate was full for add'l tasks such as that.= =A0 Kudos to Per for stepping up, documenting and posting playback so quick= ly which was almost as good as a stream and the beauty of that is I still h= ave much to catch up on watching.=A0
=A0
I think it's most exciting your renewed energy, your= new team of support and the fact that Y2K has spawned to a global event.
=A0
Congrats to=A0your new found team who rallied to the= call and made this year happen.=A0 I look foward to the future of the Y2K = series of=A0looping and experimental music.
=A0
Best to all
=A0
=A0
Jim=A0=

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 5:07 AM, R= ick Walker <loo= ppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
To the entire International Live Looping Festi= val and all who have ever come to
Northern California to perform or attend it.

I created some confusion about the future of the Y2K International Live Loo= ping Festival
in the past year because I had announced that I was giving it up and retiri= ng from doing
it. =A0 This has changed.

This is going to be a rather long post but I want to be clear about how the= festival
is going to proceed (with some very exciting new changes, globally)

Sooooooo...........

What happened was that I wanted a smooth transition to occur between the vo= lunteers who
wanted to keep the festival going and the way I've done it in the past = (which was to take on the lion's
share of the work) and I felt very burned out from having worked on the fes= tival for free for
12 months out of last year and felt my artistry was really suffering becaus= e of it.

Three things happened that mitigated that approach, however:

1) =A0I had a very busy year and just didn't have time until late in th= e game to try and train people
2) =A0A couple of people who I had dearly hoped would take the festival ove= r ended up not being
reliable and I felt insecure about the festival's future.
3) =A0Several people stepped forward and told me that they'd help me co= ntinue by taking some significant
load off of my back, so I could get back to being an artist again.

To whit: =A0 =A0Maha Taitano, =A0became a completely reliable, hard working= , and enormously resourceful
and quick learning assistant to me. =A0 =A0 Her help was just invaluable an= d , honestly, =A0gave me the renewed
energy and excitement to continue. Her coordination of front of house, MC-i= ng (a huge load off of my shoulders
not to have to MC all 30 hours of the festival as in past years), video pro= jection and many loose end jobs, =A0Steve Uccello, completely took up the p= ublicity and did a fantastic job as a relative newbie. =A0 Trevor McClaine = took on the mantle of the sound system (with generous donations of sound an= d lights from his father, Daniel Thomas), Rodent did another incredibly pro= fessional job of stage managing, =A0Fabio Anile created the poster and mann= ed the website
(thanks to Chris Roberts generous donations to keep it running) and, to top= it all of, =A0 my brother Bill and wife, Chris really helped out with tran= sportaion, housing and cleaning. =A0 =A0Bill also really was a stalwart in = helping artists get on and off stage during the marathon of the festival.
We all did a fantastic job this year, it was a really fairly stressful year= (aside from some minor prima-donnisms) and
I learned that I still love doing it and participating in it when I'm n= ot overly crazed from too much
work.

So. =A0I think I will accept more help in the future and delegate even more=
tasks but stay in charge of the shape of the festival (from a performers= 9; standpoint) and the
overall vibe of the festival.

We are a team now, however, =A0and I really trust and value advice and offe= rs of improvement from these
amazing people who put the festival on this year.

Additionally, =A0Florence, Rome, Koln, Berlin, possibly, Munchen, =A0Singap= ore, =A0Osaka and perhaps a few other
cities are going to officially join the festival in doing satellite festiva= ls around the world in the next several
years.

I'm so excited about this that I can't tell you. =A0For me, it'= s a dream come true.

I probably will never make it as gigantic as last year (70 artists from 17 = countries in 6 days in 3 cities) and think the festival will probably end u= p around 50 artists from however many countries in 6 days in 3 cities.

This makes a much more 'doable concert schedule' =A0 =A0 A date for= headliners and featured performers
in San Jose and San Francisco and three nights and two days of main festiva= l in Santa Cruz.

APPLICATION for the FESTIVAL and RULES of PERFORMANCE will be posted on the= website
at =A0 =A0 =A0 www= .y2kloopfest.com.

=A0I will start taking applications to play the festival on August 1st (and= NOT before)
unless an artist is from very far away or are balancing important touring s= chedule considerations.

Please respect this boundary. =A0 =A0I want a minimum of 9 months of each y= ear to be an artist who doesn't have
to be working on the festival. =A0Remember, =A0I am doing this for free.
Additionally, =A0as in past years............I will continue to favor perfo= rmances of artists who come from
very far away (out of the country or from far across the country) and I wil= l also tend to try and balance
participation between artists who have played before and artists who have n= ot played before giving
precedence to artists who have been consistently strong crowd pleasers and = artists who have consistently
supported the festival since it's inception.

Additionally, =A0I will continue to try and encourage relative and sometime= s even completely
inexperienced newbies to the festival in the early hours of each of the wee= kend days.

It's not lost on me that people as talented as Zoe Keating, last years,= Laurie Amat and =A0this year's =A0Pete Novembre have been newbies at t= his festival and I want to encourage the building of community and the enco= uragement and
nurturance of new artistry. =A0 This is hugely important to me and a very, = very rare thing in world wide musical festivals for the most part.

My intention is to accept everyone but the demand for the festival has grow= n.
I will try to be as fair as possible, I promise you.

Also, like last year, =A0If there isn't space for everyone, then I will= highly encourage people to create
satellite performances to attach to the festival if they are willing to tak= e on the entire job of producing such
festivals themselves. =A0 =A0Last year we had an impromptu "Newbie Fes= tival" on Thursday night.

The more we build, =A0the better it will be.

So, =A0 tomorrow, I drive to San Francisco to help take back several artist= s to the airport and the festival will be finally over for this year.

It was one of the best we've ever had and absolutely the most enjoyable= for yours truly.

Bless this community and it's wonderful artists for their participation= .
My life is infinitely better because of their love, committment and talent.=

much love, =A0 Rick Walker founder/director Y2K International Live Looping = Festivals
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 www.y2kloopfest.com





--
From Brooklyn To Gli= ndran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6r= n.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.= =A0 j= imgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--20cf3079b74ce82c8204af93faf0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 19 05:01:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C90E183462; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 05:01:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E9E59B4.3000507@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 22:01:40 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110920 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Thomas CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112421 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 05:01:51 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote: > I find a humbling belly flop at the International Live Looping > festival in Santa Cruz really sparks my creativity! :) > Always check that you plugged and configured your rig in correctly > before you roll it onto the stage. Unless, of course, you want to be > put on the spot to be */really, really, creative./* No one ever died > of music played badly. Consider it proven Dear Daniel, I understood that you didn't have some of your remote mics muted in your software causing a bit of gain structure awkwardness and a teensy bit of feedback at one point, but I personally loved your set at Y2KX+1 this year, Daniel. It was really very heartfelt and your musicality, creativity and command of live looping were very strongly evidenced throughout your set. I know you felt like hell, physically and were exhausted from your tough week before hand and that you didn't think you did all that well, but honestly, I heard a lot of people commenting favorably on it. They weren't being 'nice' by saying it, either. So, personally, I can't wait to hear your contribution next year. I'd like to ask you to come be an official Featured Performer. With the proliferation of your videos on youtube this year and your constant commitment to using live looping you you have come to the forefront of this movement (or whatever it is that we do and you deserve that honor! Rick Walker ps thanks so much for your loan of the P.A. and the lighting to the festival. Also, thanks for being such a great father to our sound person, Trevor McClaine who did a really great job all weekend long. You rock!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 19 05:26:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 870EF183463; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 05:26:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 138504.89941.bm@omp1035.mail.bf1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1319001978; bh=TcQ7rwrwahkYizX0H8t//FlzzfGVporXi5A23k8jDgM=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dUwOxm0llSGMhVONYzSIeqDuEB1jUqA5xnDfpZfEWH6mnMUrlh49nXr1HU4vg3LBvQ5vBuGuMUFi2TOQLDWs60X1QU21k90msRqlPR92wc+KDMwz39+tzb4HhrUcrDpjJHKkSXFD9VKTSJiURV+EUEDy+B7PknZCX5fkC3w+KoQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=u0RZPWjMBNlrpBwUGcU+a3ivn/J70pmu98LZ3MAYF+HQwuQ/Ny5SUYyanzX6SJoD0H+0dTBmmmK9CKebT4EN3MwZZLKOws8mVS7L6mMGalFqoE9cdQfFuCQ706QJDfGLlUWnCqs4TNbk5pDvNbQibW0lbbhDECRFjmhnPyqzkWc=; X-YMail-OSG: Pd_.I_gVM1m9SZMpe.qGmTmW0YgcEtfvddaicsWSBCMSNno TRfdihgVqmKDQh_I0NA8SlZroij7ZbL.nOQR6x2azzEbC3jUpQ5zsr_uQ9x_ .kHgXq8409rBO_x7nspNeyScRwAYmakBc9bU.lCfxNI_0FXgvUXygvjR.f.W c3F7VlLgX14MZ0STF2hJuajnNMWeCnakBRWYgzoHG7pdpsrjLparkcHNKa9I ySB3qSW7fu3sPh9PN_RqV8dX5CFrRX1m4iUOxFXNwcl8M98qfbUvRjJaL7g_ to8b2P79d98Nm90IPH9hiV9WRE65o3CgTr5m3Ul8xhrk_IBQOjGKQrznw_zc gFFysPcU4HQuTTN81lfF4hl_0FNY28d_J.Z_IdfodLwa4Om2fQ1FPytzM3CB .76ctZYRgehfYNqmnB20J5PVUO4v_LKTl309JJDTIjxW9Aw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.114.317681 Message-ID: <1319001978.85839.YahooMailNeo@web161304.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 22:26:18 -0700 (PDT) From: david kirkdorffer Reply-To: david kirkdorffer Subject: LD CD IV To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-1488538659-230179488-1319001978=:85839" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112422 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 05:26:18 +0000 (UTC) ---1488538659-230179488-1319001978=:85839 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi folks -=0A=C2=A0=0AI just wanted to drop a brief note to mention that th= e Loopers-Delight Compilation CD Number 4 has been shipped to all participa= nts.=0A=C2=A0=0AIt's been a long process. Certainly longer than it needed t= o be, and I am at fault for much of the delay.=0A=C2=A0=0ABut the LD CD IV = are in!=C2=A0 =0A=C2=A0=0AThe packaging looks 100% professional.=C2=A0 The = mastering job has pulled together the individual tracks into a coherant and= unified collection.=C2=A0 And it sounds awesome. :-)=C2=A0=C2=A0 =0A=C2=A0= =0AI hope everyone enjoys the music presented here.=C2=A0 The musicality is= truely impressive.=C2=A0 The diversity makes for a satisfyingly complete l= istening experience.=C2=A0 The sequence of tracks progresses (hopefully)=C2= =A0with a sense of arc and logical flow.=C2=A0 =0A=C2=A0- Date of Birth - B= illy Thompson=0A- Magnetic Domain Nahual - Uccello Project=0A- Moonrise, Ea= rth Setting=E2=80=A6 - Edward Yuhas=0A- 090909 - UNDO / David Kirkdorffer= =0A- Polymetric Counterpoint #1 - Fabio Anile=0A- Kompressor Long - Antony = Hequet=0A- Courts - Dustbunnies=0A- Succubae - Dreamchild=0A- French River = Flight - Paul Haslem=0A- Heavens Above - Kayla Kavanaugh=0A- Flux Aeterna -= Ted Killian=0A- Wickard of Ock - XISTH business solutions=0A- Shoegazer - = XISTH business solutions=0A- Brambellsonix - XISTH business solutions=0A=C2= =A0=0AMy thanks to everyone for their patience.=C2=A0 And my special thanks= Ted Killian for providing such awesome artwork!=C2=A0 =0A=C2=A0=0AI'd like= to donate a number of the CDs I have for sale through the Loopers-Delight = website, with the proceeds to help pay for server and domain name fees.=0AP= lease, can someone contact me privately about how best to do that?=0A=C2=A0= =0AKind regards,=0A=C2=A0=0ADavid =0A=C2=A0- Music for Toy Music Box, Bowed= Banjo, Glass Ghatam and Synthesizer - Rick Walker's Loop Pool ---1488538659-230179488-1319001978=:85839 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi fo= lks -
 
I just wanted to drop a brief note to mention th= at the Loopers-Delight Compilation CD Number 4 has been shipped to all part= icipants.
 
It's been a long pro= cess. Certainly longer than it needed to be, and I am at fault for much of = the delay.
 
But the LD CD IV are in! 
 
The packaging looks = 100% professional.  The mastering job has pulled together the individu= al tracks into a coherant and unified collection.  And it sounds aweso= me. :-)  
 
I hope everyone enjo= ys the music presented here.  The musicality is truely impressive.&nbs= p; The diversity makes for a satisfyingly complete listening experience.&nb= sp; The sequence of tracks progresses (h= opefully) with a sense of arc and logical flow. 
 
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- Music for Toy Music Box, Bowed Banjo, Glass Ghatam and Synthesizer - R= ick Walker's Loop Pool
- Date of Birth - Billy Thompson
- Magnetic Domain Nahual - Uccello Pr= oject
- Moonrise, Earth Setting=E2=80=A6 - = Edward Yuhas
- 090909 - UNDO / David Kirkdorffer
- Polymetric Counterpoint #1 - Fabio = Anile
- Kompressor Long - Antony Hequet
- Courts - Dustbunnies
- Succubae - Dreamchild
- French River Flight - Paul Haslem
- Heavens Above - Kayla Kavanaugh
- Flux Aeterna - Ted Killian
- Wickard of Ock - XISTH business sol= utions
- Shoegazer - XISTH business solution= s
- Brambellsonix - XISTH business solu= tions
 
My thanks to everyon= e for their patience.  And my special thanks Ted Killian for providing= such awesome artwork! 
 
I'd like to donate a number of the CDs I have fo= r sale through the Loopers-Delight website, with the proceeds to help pay f= or server and domain name fees.
Please, can someone contact me privately about h= ow best to do that?
 
Kind regards,=
 
David
 
---1488538659-230179488-1319001978=:85839-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 19 07:44:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 395F9183464; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 07:44:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=0ULAAFCB8vLZkl2bTxw9k3/aI3VtOU1OMFsWF3t6ZX0=; b=OXgt0TBRMK25mDJrtbqFW6DhKTFMuCfu5MWvivWXrmgmWCcbNuKsQkPBCXaCz2rqPg 93orOCSRNsNnzZmKwK8km5M5spMwSH5/OwlU756JgQ2Q0/hYcfJjE1YEeu3MUpoKMiiy MpvOwaLzPzmTz/Qd9QSoKb3RLQ9Wu7GI6pJNQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <1319001978.85839.YahooMailNeo@web161304.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1319001978.85839.YahooMailNeo@web161304.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 09:43:57 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: qUD3FS8blDMUR9tjeK9pGo470zY Message-ID: Subject: Re: LD CD IV To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30051234d7574504afa201c9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112423 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 07:44:18 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30051234d7574504afa201c9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 But where do I BUY a copy? *But the LD CD IV are in! * > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --20cf30051234d7574504afa201c9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable But where do I BUY a copy?

But the LD CD IV are in!=A0

--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
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--20cf30051234d7574504afa201c9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 19 14:43:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35529183462; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:43:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=3kn4snR/2TdwuYXvh+wm0CPnSGzQFWY7ukd303aPFv0= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:17 a=gB28bEPOAAAA:8 a=VFLBUs1HAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=EzJUUNTIAAAA:8 a=JAralIE_AAAA:8 a=l370zFz37EdpvaaglhIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=3Xs2fAMpKVl9eJnP:21 a=rIQYV7w-MdHG_93c:21 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: LD CD IV From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 07:43:04 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4EB32064-1A05-45EF-9E3E-C71C0F2268FB@charter.net> References: <1319001978.85839.YahooMailNeo@web161304.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <8_Kr7.A.-XB.5HunOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112424 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:43:05 +0000 (UTC) Mark, et al, Any one of the participants can sell you one directly. I am one . . . David is one . . . heck there are a dozen of us. PayPal me $10 USD and your mailing address and I'll send one. But I was sort of waiting to see what David Kirkdorffer did first - not = wanting to preempt him. I had been thinking along the same lines as he - wanting to donate to LD = operational costs somehow. But Violet is busy with other things at the moment and I hate to add to = her stress. I do not know the answer. If someone could put up a web purchase/donation shopping page I'd = contribute some inventory to it too. But still there is the need to add the link to the LD site where it can = be found. I have communicated with Violet about it already, and she is not in a = place to do this right now (I don't think). Other suggestions? Best, Ted On Oct 19, 2011, at 12:43 AM, mark francombe wrote: > But where do I BUY a copy? >=20 > But the LD CD IV are in!=20 >=20 > --=20 > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 19 14:45:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 534FB183460; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:45:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Tyler, Joanne" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:45:31 +0200 Subject: RE: LD CD IV Thread-Topic: LD CD IV Thread-Index: AcyObXJ6pjnSDb/MSFiEtzarksRPjwAAB/0g Message-ID: <0D12F4912FB75044AD412D227F566ECF4BC09F973A@AL-ICT-EXMB.ufh-domain.local> References: <1319001978.85839.YahooMailNeo@web161304.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4EB32064-1A05-45EF-9E3E-C71C0F2268FB@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <4EB32064-1A05-45EF-9E3E-C71C0F2268FB@charter.net> Accept-Language: en-US, en-ZA Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-cr-hashedpuzzle: vx8= AFU6 BMuU BxU+ CWqr CuR5 Dfmt Eboa EfQd FqGi GalC Hm58 Ixq9 Jdwl Jgdq JzVl;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{09CE8E5D-27BA-4C76-856F-A3F83CC24110};agB0AHkAbABlAHIAQAB1AGYAaAAuAGEAYwAuAHoAYQA=;Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:45:31 GMT;UgBFADoAIABMAEQAIABDAEQAIABJAFYA x-cr-puzzleid: {09CE8E5D-27BA-4C76-856F-A3F83CC24110} acceptlanguage: en-US, en-ZA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MXID: p9JErvr6020639 X-Scanned-By: MailXServer-v4.7d on 172.20.0.10 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112425 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:45:55 +0000 (UTC) Please can the lot of you stop sending me all these e-mails. You are ruini= ng my computer jtyler@ufh.ac.za -----Original Message----- From: tEd (r) KiLLiAn [mailto:tedkillian@charter.net]=20 Sent: 19 October 2011 04:43 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LD CD IV Mark, et al, Any one of the participants can sell you one directly. I am one . . . David is one . . . heck there are a dozen of us. PayPal me $10 USD and your mailing address and I'll send one. But I was sort of waiting to see what David Kirkdorffer did first - not wan= ting to preempt him. I had been thinking along the same lines as he - wanting to donate to LD op= erational costs somehow. But Violet is busy with other things at the moment and I hate to add to her= stress. I do not know the answer. If someone could put up a web purchase/donation shopping page I'd contribut= e some inventory to it too. But still there is the need to add the link to the LD site where it can be = found. I have communicated with Violet about it already, and she is not in a place= to do this right now (I don't think). Other suggestions? Best, Ted On Oct 19, 2011, at 12:43 AM, mark francombe wrote: > But where do I BUY a copy? >=20 > But the LD CD IV are in!=20 >=20 > --=20 > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ =0D =0D The University of Fort Hare subscribes to an e-mail disclaimer. Please clic= k on the following URL to read further:=0D http://www.ufh.ac.za/disclaimer/=0D =0D From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 19 14:51:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6DA3C183462; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:51:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Tyler, Joanne" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:51:17 +0200 Subject: FW: LD CD IV Thread-Topic: LD CD IV Thread-Index: AcyObXJ6pjnSDb/MSFiEtzarksRPjwAAB/0gAAA4y1A= Message-ID: <0D12F4912FB75044AD412D227F566ECF4BC09F973F@AL-ICT-EXMB.ufh-domain.local> Accept-Language: en-US, en-ZA Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-cr-hashedpuzzle: BC4z Bgnd CnTP DdCm DvKc D3gS EQzR EjDJ GUx7 In3q IoQa IpVb I84w JfXp Kdg6 K8sy;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{76EF852C-83D6-4D9C-B9DA-9A0572156EA6};agB0AHkAbABlAHIAQAB1AGYAaAAuAGEAYwAuAHoAYQA=;Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:51:17 GMT;RgBXADoAIABMAEQAIABDAEQAIABJAFYA x-cr-puzzleid: {76EF852C-83D6-4D9C-B9DA-9A0572156EA6} acceptlanguage: en-US, en-ZA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MXID: p9JExhem020749 X-Scanned-By: MailXServer-v4.7d on 172.20.0.10 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112426 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:51:28 +0000 (UTC) Please can the lot of you stop sending me all these e-mails. You are ruini= ng my computer jtyler@ufh.ac.za -----Original Message----- From: tEd (r) KiLLiAn [mailto:tedkillian@charter.net]=20 Sent: 19 October 2011 04:43 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LD CD IV Mark, et al, Any one of the participants can sell you one directly. I am one . . . David is one . . . heck there are a dozen of us. PayPal me $10 USD and your mailing address and I'll send one. But I was sort of waiting to see what David Kirkdorffer did first - not wan= ting to preempt him. I had been thinking along the same lines as he - wanting to donate to LD op= erational costs somehow. But Violet is busy with other things at the moment and I hate to add to her= stress. I do not know the answer. If someone could put up a web purchase/donation shopping page I'd contribut= e some inventory to it too. But still there is the need to add the link to the LD site where it can be = found. I have communicated with Violet about it already, and she is not in a place= to do this right now (I don't think). Other suggestions? Best, Ted On Oct 19, 2011, at 12:43 AM, mark francombe wrote: > But where do I BUY a copy? >=20 > But the LD CD IV are in!=20 >=20 > --=20 > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ The University of Fort Hare subscribes to an e-mail disclaimer. Please clic= k on the following URL to read further: http://www.ufh.ac.za/disclaimer/ =0D =0D The University of Fort Hare subscribes to an e-mail disclaimer. Please clic= k on the following URL to read further:=0D http://www.ufh.ac.za/disclaimer/=0D =0D From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 19 15:04:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B24E183465; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:04:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=CKBBFOpPYfBSFfEY1Rl9efxuAv/fdt7oFsWUUq3BrLQ= c=1 sm=1 a=TJX-RqEn_XoA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:17 a=SyswUzd_AAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=qS1ioJ6hxPXbpT-WQG8A:9 a=_ZkhJhzbY_uZnO3cQR4A:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=upPdOcIZSSUA:10 a=KmTF4FVDvwYA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=HrCFuHhHKrMhXy8v9_AA:7 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:117 Subject: Unsubscribe yourself (was Re: LD CD IV) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--720452571 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= In-Reply-To: <0D12F4912FB75044AD412D227F566ECF4BC09F973A@AL-ICT-EXMB.ufh-domain.local> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 08:04:07 -0700 Cc: jtyler@ufh.ac.za Message-Id: <5C04A42B-0BE4-4D3D-819C-96EBE64EA2CD@charter.net> References: <1319001978.85839.YahooMailNeo@web161304.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4EB32064-1A05-45EF-9E3E-C71C0F2268FB@charter.net> <0D12F4912FB75044AD412D227F566ECF4BC09F973A@AL-ICT-EXMB.ufh-domain.local> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112427 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:04:09 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--720452571 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Joanne, At some point in time you must have subscribed to Looper'sDelight. This is an unmoderated discussion web list. There is no one who can take you off that list but yourself. You must go to the following link: = Scroll about 3/4 down the page (under Frequently Asked Questions) and = read the section that says:=20 "I'm sorry, I need to unsubscribe from Looper's Delight. How do I do = that?" To unsubscribe, send mail with the word "unsubscribe" in both the = subject and body, and no sig files or anything else, to: If you are on the digest version of Looper's Delight, send your = unsubscribe request to: Don't send your unsubscribe message to the list, or people will make fun = of you and you will feel like a dork." Sending peevish, snippy emails to the list (I might add) makes you look = worse than a "dork." Nobody here made you subscribe. And nobody but yourself is responsible for getting you unsubscribed. You should have read the instructions - that's all it takes. Bye. Ted On Oct 19, 2011, at 7:45 AM, Tyler, Joanne wrote: > Please can the lot of you stop sending me all these e-mails. You are = ruining my computer > jtyler@ufh.ac.za --Apple-Mail-2--720452571 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Joanne,

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= --Apple-Mail-2--720452571-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 19 15:10:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9ABBF183460; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:10:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=CKBBFOpPYfBSFfEY1Rl9efxuAv/fdt7oFsWUUq3BrLQ= c=1 sm=1 a=TJX-RqEn_XoA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:17 a=SyswUzd_AAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=gB28bEPOAAAA:8 a=VFLBUs1HAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=EzJUUNTIAAAA:8 a=JAralIE_AAAA:8 a=-MR1da4WAAAA:8 a=e3eLzIquczzplnNDHHYA:9 a=A2mjlNvROSR20IFjgVIA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=upPdOcIZSSUA:10 a=KmTF4FVDvwYA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=ciC4BZ-VRWUI20tY:21 a=FrDWohg2ePjwS_2j:21 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:117 Subject: Unsubscribe Yourself (was Re: LD CD IV) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= In-Reply-To: <0D12F4912FB75044AD412D227F566ECF4BC09F973F@AL-ICT-EXMB.ufh-domain.local> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 08:10:12 -0700 Cc: jtyler@ufh.ac.za Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <0D12F4912FB75044AD412D227F566ECF4BC09F973F@AL-ICT-EXMB.ufh-domain.local> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112428 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:10:14 +0000 (UTC) Joanne (again), At some point in time you must have subscribed to Looper'sDelight. This is an unmoderated discussion web list. There is no one who can take you off that list but yourself. You must go to the following link: = Scroll about 3/4 down the page (under Frequently Asked Questions) and = read the section that says:=20 "I'm sorry, I need to unsubscribe from Looper's Delight. How do I do = that?" To unsubscribe, send mail with the word "unsubscribe" in both the = subject and body, and no sig files or anything else, to: If you are on the digest version of Looper's Delight, send your = unsubscribe request to: Don't send your unsubscribe message to the list, or people will make fun = of you and you will feel like a dork." Sending peevish, snippy emails to the list (I might add) makes you look = worse than a "dork." Nobody here made you subscribe. And nobody but yourself is responsible for getting you unsubscribed. You should have read the instructions - that's all it takes. Bye. Ted On Oct 19, 2011, at 7:45 AM, Tyler, Joanne wrote: > Please can the lot of you stop sending me all these e-mails. You are = ruining my computer > jtyler@ufh.ac.za On Oct 19, 2011, at 7:51 AM, Tyler, Joanne wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 > Please can the lot of you stop sending me all these e-mails. You are = ruining my computer > jtyler@ufh.ac.za >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: tEd (r) KiLLiAn [mailto:tedkillian@charter.net]=20 > Sent: 19 October 2011 04:43 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: LD CD IV >=20 > Mark, et al, >=20 > Any one of the participants can sell you one directly. >=20 > I am one . . . David is one . . . heck there are a dozen of us. >=20 > PayPal me $10 USD and your mailing address and I'll send one. >=20 > But I was sort of waiting to see what David Kirkdorffer did first - = not wanting to preempt him. >=20 > I had been thinking along the same lines as he - wanting to donate to = LD operational costs somehow. >=20 > But Violet is busy with other things at the moment and I hate to add = to her stress. >=20 > I do not know the answer. >=20 > If someone could put up a web purchase/donation shopping page I'd = contribute some inventory to it too. >=20 > But still there is the need to add the link to the LD site where it = can be found. >=20 > I have communicated with Violet about it already, and she is not in a = place to do this right now (I don't think). >=20 > Other suggestions? >=20 > Best, >=20 > Ted >=20 > On Oct 19, 2011, at 12:43 AM, mark francombe wrote: >=20 >> But where do I BUY a copy? >>=20 >> But the LD CD IV are in!=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> Mark Francombe >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no >> twitter @markfrancombe >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > The University of Fort Hare subscribes to an e-mail disclaimer. Please = click on the following URL to read further: >=20 > http://www.ufh.ac.za/disclaimer/ >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > The University of Fort Hare subscribes to an e-mail disclaimer. Please = click on the following URL to read further: > http://www.ufh.ac.za/disclaimer/ >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 19 15:15:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A24C0183473; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:15:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-10-19_04:2011-10-19,2011-10-19,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1110190165 Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: <4E9E59B4.3000507@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 08:15:40 -0700 Message-id: <2ACEB848-7494-46B0-A8DE-FF33A49039C4@mac.com> References: <4E9E59B4.3000507@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112429 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:15:54 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Rick. I look forward to next year. Loop on d On Oct 18, 2011, at 10:01 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote: >> I find a humbling belly flop at the International Live Looping festival in Santa Cruz really sparks my creativity! :) >> Always check that you plugged and configured your rig in correctly before you roll it onto the stage. Unless, of course, you want to be put on the spot to be */really, really, creative./* No one ever died of music played badly. Consider it proven > > Dear Daniel, > > I understood that you didn't have some of your remote mics muted in your software causing a bit > of gain structure awkwardness and a teensy bit of feedback at one point, but > I personally loved your set at Y2KX+1 this year, Daniel. > > It was really very heartfelt and your musicality, creativity and command of live looping were very strongly > evidenced throughout your set. > > I know you felt like hell, physically and were exhausted from your tough week before hand and > that you didn't think you did all that well, but honestly, I heard a lot of people commenting favorably > on it. They weren't being 'nice' by saying it, either. > > So, personally, I can't wait to hear your contribution next year. > > I'd like to ask you to come be an official Featured Performer. > With the proliferation of your videos on youtube this year and your constant commitment to using live looping you you have come to the forefront of this movement (or whatever it is that we do and you deserve that honor! > > Rick Walker > > ps thanks so much for your loan of the P.A. and the lighting to the festival. > Also, thanks for being such a great father to our sound person, Trevor McClaine who did > a really great job all weekend long. You rock!!! > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 19 15:43:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1586A183473; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:43:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 569 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:43:09 UTC X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: An0HAJjtnk4yaEmt/2dsb2JhbABEmgeObYJzAQEBBDgCFDsLRjEmNgS9SYc6YQSIApEmjEs X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,372,1315180800"; d="scan'208";a="178563150" X-Originating-IP: [50.104.73.173] X-Previous-IP: 50.104.73.173 Message-Id: <7DE4D4AF-BCF4-4F52-93E8-85F836C35C70@frontier.com> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Unsubscribe Yourself (was Re: LD CD IV) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:39:24 -0500 References: <0D12F4912FB75044AD412D227F566ECF4BC09F973F@AL-ICT-EXMB.ufh-domain.local> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112430 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:43:10 +0000 (UTC) p.s. Emails can't ruin a computer--unless, of course, they contain malicious viruses. But no one here is that mean. :) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 19 15:49:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6A2B18347A; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:49:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CEv0DkNESaXwkmUaP8DzTYHpA2xPmutSMtLCp3zQAq8=; b=Wt9WYlSilrzIr6/Az1XAq/c2nAqageMyXNzUt0ekyPwwaqy9/INCjjmwU0u9ankR3S UFuA1nV6dj2tGz9Ft4pRYLr6btaM7mgA9D4fF5HtM7gWiUHeTCYtOvwr6SQyhGfLT+Y9 aDzuV2LqZmRZB7lm7jCtqhzKz5l88znQgPOc0= Message-ID: <4E9EF0DC.9030006@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 17:46:36 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110920 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LD CD IV References: <1319001978.85839.YahooMailNeo@web161304.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4EB32064-1A05-45EF-9E3E-C71C0F2268FB@charter.net> <0D12F4912FB75044AD412D227F566ECF4BC09F973A@AL-ICT-EXMB.ufh-domain.local> In-Reply-To: <0D12F4912FB75044AD412D227F566ECF4BC09F973A@AL-ICT-EXMB.ufh-domain.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112431 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:49:22 +0000 (UTC) Am 19.10.2011 16:45, schrieb Tyler, Joanne: > Please can the lot of you stop sending me all these e-mails. You are ruining my computer > jtyler@ufh.ac.za Joanne, you shouldn't worry about all these emails ruining your computer. Your concern should be that they wear out the luminiferous aether between your wlan router and your computer - thus making it unable for you to connect to facebook. "You are ruining my computer" - this has to be by far the most dumb version of the "Unsubscribe me because I'm way too stupid to do it myself" messages - yet. -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 19 16:09:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BFEC5183460; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:09:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=AKsJnJAOMB8NOvI6rVQ8PwGsbTZqCmeN6uk6pL/dUpk=; b=RBhiTaacnTBUYm0nOdltY4X370ED1Ex0/exwOyY2AOGzFx7/cuGRERhuRz2US+xSJN T59VpgumdvuF50H9+YsJN7vnFNUVvSdlxKgPB3wc7nY3UQVJSZ8BDC4XPi1m+YgfH6ur rnWkD729uSSXZCYgvISwY/gDq00I9Jq8tzYOE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E9EF0DC.9030006@googlemail.com> References: <1319001978.85839.YahooMailNeo@web161304.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4EB32064-1A05-45EF-9E3E-C71C0F2268FB@charter.net> <0D12F4912FB75044AD412D227F566ECF4BC09F973A@AL-ICT-EXMB.ufh-domain.local> <4E9EF0DC.9030006@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:09:25 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LD CD IV From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec521604f62e16e04afa9104a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112432 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:09:27 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec521604f62e16e04afa9104a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I don't know Rainer, I have been through maybe 20 computers since I signed up for this list in '97..just saying, probably nothing in that right? lol j On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Rainer Straschill < moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote: > Am 19.10.2011 16:45, schrieb Tyler, Joanne: > >> Please can the lot of you stop sending me all these e-mails. You are >> ruining my computer >> jtyler@ufh.ac.za >> > Joanne, > > you shouldn't worry about all these emails ruining your computer. Your > concern should be that they wear out the luminiferous aether between your > wlan router and your computer - thus making it unable for you to connect to > facebook. > > "You are ruining my computer" - this has to be by far the most dumb version > of the "Unsubscribe me because I'm way too stupid to do it myself" messages > - yet. > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > > --bcaec521604f62e16e04afa9104a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't know Rainer, I have been through maybe 20 computers since I sig= ned up for this list in '97..just saying, probably nothing in that righ= t? lol

j

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 1= 1:46 AM, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
Am 19.10.2011 16:= 45, schrieb Tyler, Joanne:
Please can the lot of you stop sending me all these e-mails. =A0You are rui= ning my computer
jtyler@ufh.ac.za<= br>
Joanne,

you shouldn't worry about all these emails ruining your computer. Your = concern should be that they wear out the luminiferous aether between your w= lan router and your computer - thus making it unable for you to connect to = facebook.

"You are ruining my computer" - this has to be by far the most du= mb version of the "Unsubscribe me because I'm way too stupid to do= it myself" messages - yet.

--
http://moinlabs.de
Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs


--bcaec521604f62e16e04afa9104a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 19 16:55:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77042183462; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:55:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020205.4E9F011B.0240,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=Y5xeKzsXjNkCQoiHdxAejsv7ywKBs30EhTOukk2xkm8= c=1 sm=1 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:17 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=9Cj-CxdZAAAA:8 a=BAKZZMFPvzBoLD8Lrm8A:9 a=GWy_CFNQ_-hlckI2WxYA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=wZzzobd7QTEA:10 a=MVVg_Gj4SncA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=GeBM7t-4ZE4WUwCp:21 a=usVzttu_4J8-p2uI:21 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=NbmqdK8A8pcFsYfV3GkA:9 a=LoHKHSzGM3ZTP4-ygnUA:7 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=78K6YHrlVtQA:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Clayton Gary Lehmann" To: Subject: Careful with that Ax Eugene Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 09:55:14 -0700 Message-ID: <92DD5CB23ECA46C48F45934348BF7BB0@your0548c161e1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BA_01CC8E45.469A59B0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcyOfmRKti5xM81pQICwJaCq9Ekj4gAAWtuw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112433 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:55:57 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00BA_01CC8E45.469A59B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All- In an attempt at humor, I sent an email to the list-subject line "unsubscribing issues", text was PayPal me $10 USD and your mailing address and I'll unsubscribe you. sent as a plain text message. 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------=_NextPart_000_00BA_01CC8E45.469A59B0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 19 18:11:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC2EC183462; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 18:11:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=YAclcD4f15BetSGFWjJpxno2swoJUqosMSsUBFbeQUs=; b=LXszbqQgkxoHt8uWeCL1Zhat7vwO5TJ5u3qKoy3k1Qin5Kyaq5Ljqa1mULNtvSv5cC 1oLjSwHswMarcyimnbOeZUA5UIz/tvbxsQMs8RPEFd+3UiQn5cHLKkun8sA/s33NxzV+ 3B/LrvOrxxsdlHMgxG56GI13hAiS3emOjWoFM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7DE4D4AF-BCF4-4F52-93E8-85F836C35C70@frontier.com> References: <0D12F4912FB75044AD412D227F566ECF4BC09F973F@AL-ICT-EXMB.ufh-domain.local> <7DE4D4AF-BCF4-4F52-93E8-85F836C35C70@frontier.com> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:11:07 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Unsubscribe Yourself (was Re: LD CD IV) From: Wytold Lebing To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5215c819d6f0004afaac336 Resent-Message-ID: <619zYB.A.pmF.-KxnOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112434 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 18:11:10 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec5215c819d6f0004afaac336 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Please unsubscribe me for myself. Your emails are raising my electric bill and I need to save money (and go green). Also, your emails occasionally clog the tubes of my internet connection, which I don't know how to clean. Please advise. J/K !!!!! :) -- Wytold www.Wytold.com My New CD "When Fulvio Finds Celeste" --bcaec5215c819d6f0004afaac336 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Wytold
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--bcaec5215c819d6f0004afaac336-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 19 18:22:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 67D76183463; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 18:22:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=t8G+KfY055JbTZs9OqzViNRrjRTTysCTcop7HkDSiQs=; b=e61g9UoK3d8mAxvln5xqOdOGyoqLR/uvSnUdfW8HUUwNUfDC4frv6kETWxk9DpOsqx eYNzGDdeEXRDzf1YoXZpH/jrNkAGJjXmyXgHw5ECY2evyn19svswvK5srJwXPVQM7ZlF LRlKW+Bd7pmZ4q5BR3upJsCSnsgUeteHQE+gw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <0D12F4912FB75044AD412D227F566ECF4BC09F973F@AL-ICT-EXMB.ufh-domain.local> <7DE4D4AF-BCF4-4F52-93E8-85F836C35C70@frontier.com> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:22:34 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Unsubscribe Yourself (was Re: LD CD IV) From: william middlemiss To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016362845e486fee304afaaec63 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112435 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 18:22:35 +0000 (UTC) --0016362845e486fee304afaaec63 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 you know she probably just deleted the email from when she subscribed detailing the process. I get the joke, some people dont understand computers as well as others. Personally, I figured there'd be more discussion about music when I signed up. Now, Im looking for that original email myself. On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Wytold Lebing wrote: > Please unsubscribe me for myself. Your emails are raising my electric bill > and I need to save money (and go green). > > Also, your emails occasionally clog the tubes of my internet connection, > which I don't know how to clean. Please advise. > > J/K !!!!! :) > -- > Wytold > www.Wytold.com > My New CD "When Fulvio Finds Celeste" > > > --0016362845e486fee304afaaec63 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable you know she probably just deleted the email from when she subscribed detai= ling the process. I get the joke, some people dont understand computers as = well as others. Personally, I figured there'd be more discussion about = music when I signed up. Now, Im looking for that original email myself.=A0<= br>
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Wytold Lebi= ng <wytoldmus= ic@gmail.com> wrote:
Please unsubscribe me for myself.=A0 Your emails=A0are raising my elec= tric bill and I need to save money (and go green).=A0
=A0
Also, your emails occasionally=A0clog the tubes of my internet connect= ion, which I don't know how to clean.=A0 Please advise.
=A0
J/K !!!!!=A0 :)
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Wytold
=A0


--0016362845e486fee304afaaec63-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 19 18:27:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63EA0183463; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 18:27:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=pCyxg9RdiZbAaG68nmwqdEyh5ppeb1Tpj590eC9XlC8=; b=ogGZtaJ+E6p/qXTwAXvh00FetoSz984K0qKCZqCkCPRbRDgQopNKCZgXKKZebSnrRW 7kZb8aemmMTU/oSdPMRFhFLkEoXQ74Ttfjqmt+E8U0l+D6cFTP5zzb3Cyz/rVmutGrnW vabETw995eV++G1ETjdccrz/cRMQV5h7YdOJI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <0D12F4912FB75044AD412D227F566ECF4BC09F973F@AL-ICT-EXMB.ufh-domain.local> <7DE4D4AF-BCF4-4F52-93E8-85F836C35C70@frontier.com> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:27:51 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Unsubscribe Yourself (was Re: LD CD IV) From: Wytold Lebing To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51dde2f66963504afaaff0d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112436 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 18:27:52 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec51dde2f66963504afaaff0d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I totally understand it too! And I don't think I'd have luck finding that email myself, or have the patience to do so if I were fed up with all the emails. Plus, most other list-servs have links in each email that you click to unsubscribe automatically (maybe LD should consider this?) Nonetheless, I saw Rainer's statement "this has to be by far the most dumb version" as a challenge that I'd enjoy winning. Hope I didn't offend anyone! On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 2:22 PM, william middlemiss < billymiddlemiss@gmail.com> wrote: > you know she probably just deleted the email from when she subscribed > detailing the process. I get the joke, some people dont understand computers > as well as others. Personally, I figured there'd be more discussion about > music when I signed up. Now, Im looking for that original email myself. > > > On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Wytold Lebing wrote: > >> Please unsubscribe me for myself. Your emails are raising my electric >> bill and I need to save money (and go green). >> >> Also, your emails occasionally clog the tubes of my internet connection, >> which I don't know how to clean. Please advise. >> >> J/K !!!!! :) >> -- >> Wytold >> www.Wytold.com >> My New CD "When Fulvio Finds Celeste" >> >> >> > -- Wytold www.Wytold.com My New CD "When Fulvio Finds Celeste" --bcaec51dde2f66963504afaaff0d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I totally understand it too!=A0 And I don't think I'd have luc= k finding that email myself, or have the patience to do so if I were fed up= with all the emails.=A0 Plus, most other list-servs have links in each ema= il that you click to unsubscribe automatically (maybe LD should consider th= is?)
=A0
Nonetheless, I saw Rainer's statement "this has to be by far = the most dumb version" as a challenge that I'd enjoy winning.=A0 H= ope I didn't offend anyone!

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 2:22 PM, william middlem= iss <bill= ymiddlemiss@gmail.com> wrote:
you know she probably just delet= ed the email from when she subscribed detailing the process. I get the joke= , some people dont understand computers as well as others. Personally, I fi= gured there'd be more discussion about music when I signed up. Now, Im = looking for that original email myself.=A0=20


On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Wytold Lebing <= span dir=3D"ltr"><wytoldmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Please unsubscribe me for myself.=A0 Your emails=A0are raising my elec= tric bill and I need to save money (and go green).=A0
=A0
Also, your emails occasionally=A0clog the tubes of my internet connect= ion, which I don't know how to clean.=A0 Please advise.
=A0
J/K !!!!!=A0 :)
--
Wytold
=A0




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Wytold
=A0

--bcaec51dde2f66963504afaaff0d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 19 19:56:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B89B183462; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 19:56:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=y+RXQWf7COuVFZlBz9VxocFKRIfh9Y2dMmkSMS87flY=; b=drwaD77kdEzLsWdBQ5HcmSJwXyBwE0O03nusMZPwCKI//ke5gbpMMxMVR8Ope+zcar b9Fa9CTncuO1Gfzen0q15e8846Ys89RV2sweA4pHncWW+j4n7GWTNKuDiAqKv8fyL99b 6G+TmYj611N5bjHTKVU9wqVV6XfkFizkjChBw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <1319001978.85839.YahooMailNeo@web161304.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4EB32064-1A05-45EF-9E3E-C71C0F2268FB@charter.net> <0D12F4912FB75044AD412D227F566ECF4BC09F973A@AL-ICT-EXMB.ufh-domain.local> <4E9EF0DC.9030006@googlemail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 21:55:41 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fd9A2cgI4HRbvLs_xhHPNrM_rxE Message-ID: Subject: Re: LD CD IV To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305e21afb7184504afac3af9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112437 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 19:56:02 +0000 (UTC) --20cf305e21afb7184504afac3af9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > I don't know Rainer, I have been through maybe 20 computers since I signed > up for this list in '97..just saying, probably nothing in that right? lol AHA!! So THATS why my computers keep going wrong!! Thanks Jeff! unsubscribe ... UNSUBSCRIBE DAMMIT!!! -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --20cf305e21afb7184504afac3af9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com> wrote:
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I don't know Rainer, I have been through maybe 20 computers since I sig= ned up for this list in '97..just saying, probably nothing in that righ= t? lol

AHA!! So THATS why my computers keep going wro= ng!! Thanks Jeff!

unsubscribe

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UNSUBSCRIBE DAMMIT!!!



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www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
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http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
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--20cf305e21afb7184504afac3af9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 19 20:21:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 62B56183461; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 20:21:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=HENPB+KH5qe8aVg/rGDS6M4DUntDymTduKHpQjxumDU=; b=CMxGny51+2gLiv7R4fN2HVq6Q37B1kZffAtAsx6PSGppkAGtW2zgOilPXK//d1FFMe DXwmSr4EATJB39XAL5AqpPYeD09tg9xBzbna9gFRkNgJCxKuIpIlGc+IWin5bDeo+gG+ TWon03bWcI3J0AGq5MRQKM3LxyuJiSTveTWg0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1319001978.85839.YahooMailNeo@web161304.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4EB32064-1A05-45EF-9E3E-C71C0F2268FB@charter.net> <0D12F4912FB75044AD412D227F566ECF4BC09F973A@AL-ICT-EXMB.ufh-domain.local> <4E9EF0DC.9030006@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:21:02 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LD CD IV From: Thomas Wegmann To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364ee74433186b04afac944f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112438 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 20:21:03 +0000 (UTC) --0016364ee74433186b04afac944f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 LOL, I really needed this today!!!!! I would like to purchase as well so I may go ahead and send to Ted. thanks, Weg On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 3:55 PM, mark francombe wrote: > On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > >> I don't know Rainer, I have been through maybe 20 computers since I signed >> up for this list in '97..just saying, probably nothing in that right? lol > > > AHA!! So THATS why my computers keep going wrong!! Thanks Jeff! > > unsubscribe > > ... > > > UNSUBSCRIBE DAMMIT!!! > > > > > -- > *Mark Francombe* > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ > > -- Greg Wegmann TheWeg@Frontier.com TheWeg@GMail.com --0016364ee74433186b04afac944f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
LOL, I really needed this today!!!!!=A0 I would like to purchase as we= ll so I may go ahead and send to Ted.
=A0
thanks,
Weg

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 3:55 PM, mark francombe = <mark@markfr= ancombe.com> wrote:
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@= gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know Rainer, I have = been through maybe 20 computers since I signed up for this list in '97.= .just saying, probably nothing in that right? lol

AHA!! So THATS why my computers keep going wrong!! Thanks J= eff!

unsubscribe

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UNSUBSCRIBE DAMMIT!!!=20



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TheWeg@GMail.com

--0016364ee74433186b04afac944f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 19 22:31:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50D4D183461; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 22:31:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=qZcIjfouTtm3xv0LTqhQ1ju8EHPHngJBKemnMmhb6Rw=; b=BO9DzsiLaHx34/48RXImQqZWgfk2Vo3RGF+M1604RUjqxbIbX2LzOMe4+IV4YHX616 1QVwBCdPcGf2miakG2hOxh7Tx8rUCg0HI8wDoG0vGB4cpIuKdtfDznqG57EbvSrBmfFZ W6fFYvMs7jX8Hny93DKJqZ8aMM3GFWOhUXRKc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2ACEB848-7494-46B0-A8DE-FF33A49039C4@mac.com> References: <4E9E59B4.3000507@cruzio.com> <2ACEB848-7494-46B0-A8DE-FF33A49039C4@mac.com> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:31:02 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec52e601f1a12fa04afae652d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112439 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 22:31:03 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec52e601f1a12fa04afae652d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Go for a hike in the great outdoors. Do something you wouldn't normally do. Travel. Do volunteer work. See life from a different perspective :) --bcaec52e601f1a12fa04afae652d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Go for a hike in the great outdoors.=A0 Do something you wouldn't no= rmally do.=A0 Travel.=A0 Do volunteer work.=A0 See life from a different pe= rspective :)

--bcaec52e601f1a12fa04afae652d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 19 22:46:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD7A6183464; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 22:46:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E9F532B.8080403@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:46:03 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110920 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: SPECIAL THANKS to THOSE WHO DONATED to the Y2KX+1 FESTIVAL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112440 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 22:46:12 +0000 (UTC) I wanted to send special thanks out to all who contributed financially to the festival. We had a lower turnout this year than in past years so your contributions made it so that I could pay all the people who made the essential contributions to the festival. Thanks for your continued generosity. I'd like to especially thank Jeff Larson of Mobius and Bill Putnam of Univeral Audio who's contributions finally made us break even! I'm so appreciative and the festival was amazing. Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 19 22:55:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A792C183462; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 22:55:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=9yxnBBQt4ku3KwZ9xfp+LWfD1OkGz1uTmioYaDnu+3Y=; b=xl4hNI7/IQtPlJyaozdfMm9jNF/aADPGqsMIBanfbtp6KTo4XXsQmMvWMIaIvnga6t TPCKykWPmhID71edAUMkMASXWOi1OYBnC9ptr4+E7dq79bqucnhxb60vz9DoaSK9B5I0 u9PUx/J3ivWDy7D8zRd2wisWkF7lqLDUjFnwY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4E9E59B4.3000507@cruzio.com> <2ACEB848-7494-46B0-A8DE-FF33A49039C4@mac.com> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:55:00 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? From: Lindsey Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba1efe0adc4df004afaeba12 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112441 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 22:55:02 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba1efe0adc4df004afaeba12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Something I got from my ceramics teacher in college: Make a notebook of your ideas as you think of them when you are inspired. That way, you can go back through and remind yourself of the things you didn't have time to do when you had lots of ideas, or just use those as a springboard for new thoughts. Many artists experience a dry spell but that doesn't mean you're dried up. Try not to be hard on yourself because that doesn't make the art come back faster, it probably has the opposite effect. Sending inspiration your way, Lindsey On Oct 19, 2011 3:31 PM, "^|>^m" wrote: > Go for a hike in the great outdoors. Do something you wouldn't normally > do. Travel. Do volunteer work. See life from a different perspective :) > --90e6ba1efe0adc4df004afaeba12 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Something I got from my ceramics teacher in college:=A0 Make a notebook = of your ideas as you think of them when you are inspired.=A0 That way, you = can go back through and remind yourself of the things you didn't have t= ime to do when you had lots of ideas, or just use those as a springboard fo= r new thoughts.=A0

Many artists experience a dry spell but that doesn't mean you're= dried up.=A0 Try not to be hard on yourself because that doesn't make = the art come back faster, it probably has the opposite effect.=A0

Sending inspiration your way,
Lindsey

On Oct 19, 2011 3:31 PM, "^|&gt;^m"= ; <will.it.go.round@gmail.= com> wrote:

Go for a hike in the great outdoors.=A0 Do something you wouldn't no= rmally do.=A0 Travel.=A0 Do volunteer work.=A0 See life from a different pe= rspective :)

--90e6ba1efe0adc4df004afaeba12-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 20 03:45:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 251A4183460; Thu, 20 Oct 2011 03:45:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 20 Oct 2011 03:45:10 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_af124722-f933-4865-93cb-018ee19e2651_" X-Originating-IP: [70.134.97.5] From: nat grant To: Subject: RE: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 14:40:08 +1100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,<4E9E59B4.3000507@cruzio.com>,<2ACEB848-7494-46B0-A8DE-FF33A49039C4@mac.com>,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Oct 2011 03:40:09.0409 (UTC) FILETIME=[F73F9B10:01CC8ED9] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112442 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 03:45:10 +0000 (UTC) --_af124722-f933-4865-93cb-018ee19e2651_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable there are various texts around that deal with this issue=2C though i've fou= nd i actually take better to the kind of advice they offer when i am alread= y feeling inspired and productive. i've found=2C in general=2C that going t= o a performance=2C film=2C exhibition or something that is completely diffe= rent to the kind of work i do can be incredibly thought provoking=2C and ev= en if i don't enjoy it i always come away with fresh ideas. the other thing= i have been doing recently is reading about other artists' processes (part= icularly visual artists). in particular i have been reading (and re-reading= =2C always a good sign) 'art without compromise'=2C by wendy richmond. seei= ng how another artist approaches process=2C technology=2C collaboration and= the ever-challenging issues surrounding originality and creativity provide= s (for me) much food for thought...=20 http://books.google.com/books/about/Art_Without_Compromise.html?id=3DXgmuSa= bQnl0C http://wendyrichmond.com/writing_ArtWithout.html ------------------------------------- http://www.natgrantmusic.com = --_af124722-f933-4865-93cb-018ee19e2651_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
there are various texts around that deal with this issue=2C though i've fou= nd i actually take better to the kind of advice they offer when i am alread= y feeling inspired and productive. i've found=2C in general=2C that going t= o a performance=2C film=2C exhibition or something that is completely diffe= rent to the kind of work i do can be incredibly thought provoking=2C and ev= en if i don't enjoy it i always come away with fresh ideas. the other thing= i have been doing recently is reading about other artists' processes (part= icularly visual artists). in particular i have been reading (and re-reading= =2C always a good sign) 'art without compromise'=2C by wendy richmond. seei= ng how another artist approaches process=2C technology=2C collaboration and= the ever-challenging issues surrounding originality and creativity provide= s (for me) much food for thought...

http://books.google.com/books/a= bout/Art_Without_Compromise.html?id=3DXgmuSabQnl0C

http://wendyrichm= ond.com/writing_ArtWithout.html


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http://www.natgrantmusic.com


= --_af124722-f933-4865-93cb-018ee19e2651_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 20 07:32:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 06BB5183462; Thu, 20 Oct 2011 07:32:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <71D15D65-34F4-46E4-817B-D1730B81E368@sea.plala.or.jp> From: Ed Durbrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <70215E754BE640CCB8F4CF5AFFC5FE28@mpeserver> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5--661160460 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: wery interesting guestion ! Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 16:32:19 +0900 References: <70215E754BE640CCB8F4CF5AFFC5FE28@mpeserver> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-VirusScan: Outbound; msa03b; Thu, 20 Oct 2011 16:32:19 +0900 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112443 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 07:32:23 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5--661160460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Believe by Cher???? On Oct 14, 2011, at 2:57 PM, Michael Peters wrote: > You beee o-o... Looo oooo ve.. Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ --Apple-Mail-5--661160460 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Believe by = Cher????
On Oct 14, 2011, at 2:57 PM, Michael Peters = wrote:

 You beee o-o... Looo = oooo ve..

=
= --Apple-Mail-5--661160460-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 20 21:52:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1BAAF183465; Thu, 20 Oct 2011 21:52:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4EA097F2.9090303@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 17:51:46 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112444 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 21:52:00 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on Steve Roach. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Immersion Five: Circadian Rhythms" disk 1 by Steve Roach on Timeroom Editions. Details are at the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#oct Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org/listen on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 20 22:02:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 59CB4183462; Thu, 20 Oct 2011 22:02:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=WjYHw3sWh2sl9iadINEbC6ci+UhCblYxZLGujRV5XZw=; b=mZBhwsfHG3Pvlq4r8mG8sj4hdIFekB8z1drErhBLN8fi/yvrkUl8GzSw2bIpIzRDjf cLNJ0R+MjQM01mwqQLkfxckr0ZGnhiGHa28iwTnDfm1kuAoKjoNy01kxtIpkN9dTFWBe V9ZGiG1SvH7gUInXXPFJG9k3xuJ2Dt+bjVjxE= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? From: Christopher Darrow In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 15:02:38 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <45F22119-2B8C-4E6B-A933-0510C53175B8@gmail.com> References: <26554538.2731.1318842568497.JavaMail.root@WARSBL213.highway.telekom.at> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112445 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 22:02:44 +0000 (UTC) Switch genres, instruments, (small cycles) or mediums (larger cycles, = for me that's been primarily video and writing).=20 I find there are synergies that can be found between these and it = definitely works to stay in a more constant creative flow but there's = also the definite possible pit falls associated with being a "jack of = all trades / master of none" and/or taking longer to finish projects, = etc.=20 For extremely small cycles, I use intoxicants / sobriety, brute force, = talking to the muse, creative exorcises (such as making a song from = over-heard lines at a bar or coffee shop or from a dream, etc), add = reverb, new sound, new style, copy something then alter it, a careful = listening session (if music, reading if writing, film or artistic videos = if video, etc... in other words, consume the medium), naps. =20= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 20 23:25:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 13E0C183461; Thu, 20 Oct 2011 23:25:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pCrrIj10i5/N/WEgOB5BcpU2YNy7A6aIkbJDQkLM+aI=; b=JHB+bWEyZP9kLWPU1chgYgE2HJaNgL8t3eiIMg8DAdtqzy0D04WHQAI7XyA+GM5nrK J0nA26nNo9PkHOgXNKP/fIvCCwCSbO0ZhcdLMkqPzQYxfmGgnBWXZ6hK7edDWxQ+9XuL z23xV5uFPbUWw1+BuX4Mu3/QWCqshzrOTEgcw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 01:25:49 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <4Ij1j.A.uzD.-3KoOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112446 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 23:25:50 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I uploaded all my photos and videos from this year's YK2 Inernational Loopfest Santa Cruz to a Dropbox folder. If you have Dropbox you can download from https://www.dropbox.com/home/Y2K%2B1pboy#/Y2K%2B1pboy::: If you want to get Dropbox first, here's my invitation link: http://db.tt/NAcpMDA My stuff seems to be more than the allowed content size but if people hurry up to download what they want I can delete the image files in about three days to make space for videos that tend to be larger files. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 21 00:07:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C64D518345A; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 00:07:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Cf/NKzKXfx0aVehFFjxallDb0r1TDmXs8QUYmsWCOPE=; b=dBfo2eoF53oedVp6p7tiFLy9xwDwcHKOzJ14NoGHsBNPxNlL9mih4OOpqRkskLjQWe ZMT8OAZt1wnrW6/keq0EXG8xbEkpLagMhqn7nQ2CE3b3vbuPyVLMS7eBrC6yRLEZkAlG 9aqz8Toq0WMGbgm0q5noduGZZaBgT9SbO+CTw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 20:07:47 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec520efc5f7446704afc3dc85 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112447 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 00:07:48 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec520efc5f7446704afc3dc85 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Something glitched with that link Per...I'll grab it for sure, thanks! I already have DB so I can't help there, sorry :) j On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 7:25 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Hi, I uploaded all my photos and videos from this year's YK2 > Inernational Loopfest Santa Cruz to a Dropbox folder. If you have > Dropbox you can download from > https://www.dropbox.com/home/Y2K%2B1pboy#/Y2K%2B1pboy::: > > If you want to get Dropbox first, here's my invitation link: > http://db.tt/NAcpMDA > > My stuff seems to be more than the allowed content size but if people > hurry up to download what they want I can delete the image files in > about three days to make space for videos that tend to be larger > files. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > --bcaec520efc5f7446704afc3dc85 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Something glitched with that link Per...I'll grab it for sure, thanks! = I already have DB so I can't help there, sorry :)

j

On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 7:25 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com= > wrote:
Hi, I uploaded al= l my photos and videos from this year's YK2
Inernational Loopfest Santa Cruz to a Dropbox folder. If you have
Dropbox you can download from
https://www.dropbox.com/home/Y2K%2B1pboy#/Y2K%2B1pboy:::
If you want to get Dropbox first, here's my invitation link:
http://db.tt/NAcpMDA=

My stuff seems to be more than the allowed content size but if people
hurry up to download what they want I can delete the image files in
about three days to make space for videos that tend to be larger
files.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub


--bcaec520efc5f7446704afc3dc85-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 21 02:12:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77AC8183462; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 02:12:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=aKybpdkwew+/z1aIyHZfcrSALuC+vxwU/EECuXP9kzE=; b=NLD8P2RLhQeev3YAHWDjCnv8HCs0eMUNbHt1PkyJw5V38n5t5t0jVAVxtKAF6Qwi6J T2c1f7lY7DP34ssDxva7nHxxliWUkf7OE3Euh9Rnk35EDkUjYeVIIRZ879UTVHGy+cc6 dV6G9b353ClTwYcP6d18Vb5h2pEA43a2rXBbo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 04:12:06 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 From: Per Boysen To: Laurie Amat Cc: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112448 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 02:12:08 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 3:21 AM, Laurie Amat wrote: > Hej Per, > > I went on to dropbox, but it said the folder was empty > > Hmmmm Dear Laurie - and Loopers Delight Friends, It seems I need to send a personal "sharing invitation" to every person in order to give access to the YK2X+1pboy folder. I just sent one to Laurie now. Please let us know if this helped! Anyone that wants access can just email me so I can send back a "sharing invitation". Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 21 02:32:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 180A4183462; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 02:32:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=S/eH3m+/2ULEAVaSHLtrhSv4nSxoHVZibDxlXXuJVPQ=; b=lkSjlp3zm/HDpv6Orv714AW8YnZ12Sz6JtlW+lI9wcn7czabdMU5f5s+CSDSFJIBTV LeFeGz7L5GK0dVnVs6hh/HOoCCoNfyNOG34/BKsHmgmwdt24P3X3A2izhzNR13GMAWoo Mlw9bEJmVy12c/7Wy0+j2wnwnKbica1BMakO4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 22:32:52 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 From: Thomas Wegmann To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e65da542cc7a4f04afc5e31d Resent-Message-ID: <7a7Ri.A.nnG.UnNoOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112449 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 02:32:52 +0000 (UTC) --0016e65da542cc7a4f04afc5e31d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Please send! Looking forward to seeing them On Oct 20, 2011 10:12 PM, "Per Boysen" wrote: > On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 3:21 AM, Laurie Amat wrote: > > Hej Per, > > > > I went on to dropbox, but it said the folder was empty > > > > Hmmmm > > > Dear Laurie - and Loopers Delight Friends, > > It seems I need to send a personal "sharing invitation" to every > person in order to give access to the YK2X+1pboy folder. I just sent > one to Laurie now. Please let us know if this helped! > > Anyone that wants access can just email me so I can send back a > "sharing invitation". > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > --0016e65da542cc7a4f04afc5e31d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Please send! Looking forward to seeing them

On Oct 20, 2011 10:12 PM, "Per Boysen"= <perboysen@gmail.com> wro= te:
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 3:21 AM, Laurie Amat <voicesound@att.net> wrote:
> Hej Per,
>
> I went on to dropbox, but it said the folder was empty
>
> Hmmmm


Dear Laurie - and Loopers Delight Friends,

It seems I need to send a personal "sharing invitation" to every<= br> person in order to give access to the YK2X+1pboy folder. I just sent
one to Laurie now. Please let us know if this helped!

Anyone that wants access can just email me so I can send back a
"sharing invitation".

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub

--0016e65da542cc7a4f04afc5e31d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 21 02:40:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC376183463; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 02:40:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=9UMrIYBkjZBK/vUTaNg90Skh3FC9GAXZMzR5jNfN9+s=; b=TJg2lybldSjfpkifpD4mXj4O0AJgdhsTs9WQjdAZikjk+8C7ZBN4stian6IWPe6xt6 fIc8JKi9fz+yZYPLbPabcKQbz+H1BYttpgICpCzEPQQybOG+9EysUo/lvGDay3nqGj1M q4zI5dHGYncRBImDuMPoZjrf/JxyxryRHzD9I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 22:40:38 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f642d38a1d2d604afc5fff4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112450 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 02:40:40 +0000 (UTC) --e89a8f642d38a1d2d604afc5fff4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Getting it now Per thanks! You can also put the zip in your "public" folder and get a general link to it for handing out or posting. j On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 3:21 AM, Laurie Amat wrote: > > Hej Per, > > > > I went on to dropbox, but it said the folder was empty > > > > Hmmmm > > > Dear Laurie - and Loopers Delight Friends, > > It seems I need to send a personal "sharing invitation" to every > person in order to give access to the YK2X+1pboy folder. I just sent > one to Laurie now. Please let us know if this helped! > > Anyone that wants access can just email me so I can send back a > "sharing invitation". > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > --e89a8f642d38a1d2d604afc5fff4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Getting it now Per thanks! You can also put the zip in your "public&qu= ot; folder and get a general link to it for handing out or posting.

= j

On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Per B= oysen <perboyse= n@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 21, 2= 011 at 3:21 AM, Laurie Amat <voice= sound@att.net> wrote:
> Hej Per,
>
> I went on to dropbox, but it said the folder was empty
>
> Hmmmm


Dear Laurie - and Loopers Delight Friends,

It seems I need to send a personal "sharing invitation" to every<= br> person in order to give access to the YK2X+1pboy folder. I just sent
one to Laurie now. Please let us know if this helped!

Anyone that wants access can just email me so I can send back a
"sharing invitation".

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub


--e89a8f642d38a1d2d604afc5fff4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 21 12:28:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F31A518345F; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:28:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 681414178/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.188.62/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.188.62 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlkCAMs0oU5V0rw+/2dsb2JhbAAMN5ofki99NAJiAYgEpyCNRYgpBJkXjEE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,384,1315177200"; d="scan'208";a="681414178" Message-ID: <4EA16561.20300@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 13:28:17 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Sounds looped, but isn't Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8cxlzC.A.8JG.kVWoOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112451 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:28:20 +0000 (UTC) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzWITU3L-F0 and make sure you keep going till the end andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 21 13:01:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED41A183463; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 13:01:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=62ICoFcN1Hdop3B1vgItaewi14YT1O2lVO3NwTmmOfQ=; b=ioJXqqAXBuLP9qL7E6/mPGSpxbNbnh2/WBZCvwx8F5M+GJNMrQ6NaYs4IR2miRI5fx 0lWCb1thL26WmLj5/oHQigS5AQDZCDbMKPZE8sfNEajMyE4SVhFOhZRzQvQxVRm2lbwK etw/3qjnaBxV2kXT2oDm56OZg7DPMWkAe9JDc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4EA16561.20300@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4EA16561.20300@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 14:01:41 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sounds looped, but isn't From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112452 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 13:01:42 +0000 (UTC) the funny face man make nice music! On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:28 PM, andy butler wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzWITU3L-F0 > > and make sure you keep going till the end > > andy > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 21 14:19:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E074183463; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 14:19:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=RFHiKv7YEeAzsdTB+qyJjEj9599uAQhRmqjAWQKacsA=; b=LR+9KuTG6hBfk5UxikeWfP6TOCsy9Vb8/sY5WCqHJFvz+9JTabQTnmjVm11SDzKi9U KemQ1vrFE8qkiCYB7TLFJ6qLBk82bpOXLm+JkyBzdeIiSG2PJ0KbQUFASCpeMGuJ5+Bz YZur36tuW2b3cQbBjHHwHfj58sXl0nWM5uCWo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4EA16561.20300@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4EA16561.20300@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 16:19:12 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sounds looped, but isn't From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112453 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 14:19:14 +0000 (UTC) Lovely multitasking music! Got surprised by that funny video trick at the end :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 2:28 PM, andy butler wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzWITU3L-F0 > > and make sure you keep going till the end > > andy > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 21 14:47:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37005183465; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 14:47:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <4EA16561.20300@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Sounds looped, but isn't In-Reply-To: <4EA16561.20300@tiscali.co.uk> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: michael klobuchar X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CE5E176AB7993E_D64_4C678_webmail-d039.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 34290-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CE5E176AA22CCC-D64-1B9DF@webmail-d039.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [68.162.161.133] Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 10:46:57 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:328596256:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294b4ea185e126f0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112454 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 14:47:09 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CE5E176AB7993E_D64_4C678_webmail-d039.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" totally smokin'!!!!!.....i'd love to meet his muse! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DBzWITU3L-F0 and make sure you keep going till the end andy =20 ----------MB_8CE5E176AB7993E_D64_4C678_webmail-d039.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" totally smokin'!!!!!.....i'd love t= o meet his muse!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DBzWITU3=
L-F0

and make sure you keep going till the end

andy

----------MB_8CE5E176AB7993E_D64_4C678_webmail-d039.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 21 15:41:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05821183464; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:41:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=wRQj9gwRHk8NfDAOLz8C7mYSFCBle5ouGjwIgO809CY=; b=Z/+0t4t6YUFUMn5gTQICDhe5R1gBYiiY2cNvfGXuqVkdNuz2shVCwzlrasw0DveiUb O7QDh02PICGqZdLJZnZd7i8MRmp7tW8e2dYTS9TxrcVBxOI3v571m4+NlQp1doCn4Fao gTshoVxHutPycV/M1/M+yIzXk0ZBZkRmjZEc8= From: Matthias Grob Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-94--545440765 Subject: Re: Unsubscribe Yourself (was Re: LD CD IV) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:40:59 -0300 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <0D12F4912FB75044AD412D227F566ECF4BC09F973F@AL-ICT-EXMB.ufh-domain.local> <7DE4D4AF-BCF4-4F52-93E8-85F836C35C70@frontier.com> Message-Id: <7DAF562E-37C3-4854-9D87-9A378090FBF4@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <--HB4D.A.GkB.3KZoOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112455 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:41:43 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-94--545440765 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii oh, that sounds sad, william I have been here intensely when it started, 96-2000, and we were talking = a lot about music maybe this scene is more at Facebook - loopers delight now? consider also http://loopingmusic.proboards.com or you start the discussion here? anyway, no need to search the mail, here is the magic text (google also = brings it up): To unsubscribe, send mail with the word "unsubscribe" in both the = subject and body, and no sig files or anything else, to: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com :-) On 19 Oct 2011, at 15:22, william middlemiss wrote: > you know she probably just deleted the email from when she subscribed = detailing the process. I get the joke, some people dont understand = computers as well as others. Personally, I figured there'd be more = discussion about music when I signed up. Now, Im looking for that = original email myself.=20 >=20 > On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Wytold Lebing = wrote: > Please unsubscribe me for myself. Your emails are raising my electric = bill and I need to save money (and go green).=20 > =20 > Also, your emails occasionally clog the tubes of my internet = connection, which I don't know how to clean. Please advise. > =20 > J/K !!!!! :) > --=20 > Wytold > www.Wytold.com > My New CD "When Fulvio Finds Celeste" > =20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-94--545440765 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii oh, = that sounds sad, william
I have been here intensely when it started, = 96-2000, and we were talking a lot about music
maybe this = scene is more at Facebook - loopers delight now?
or you start the discussion = here?

anyway, no need to search the mail, here = is the magic text (google also brings it = up):

To unsubscribe, send mail with the word = "unsubscribe" in both the subject and body, and no sig files or anything = else, to:
Loopers-Deligh= t-request@loopers-delight.com

:-)

On 19 Oct 2011, at 15:22, william middlemiss = wrote:

you know she probably just deleted the email from when she = subscribed detailing the process. I get the joke, some people dont = understand computers as well as others. Personally, I figured there'd be = more discussion about music when I signed up. Now, Im looking for that = original email myself. 

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Wytold = Lebing <wytoldmusic@gmail.com>= wrote:
Please unsubscribe me for myself.  Your emails are = raising my electric bill and I need to save money (and go green).  =
 
Also, your emails occasionally clog the tubes of my internet = connection, which I don't know how to clean.  Please advise.
 
J/K !!!!!  :)
--
Wytold
 



= --Apple-Mail-94--545440765-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 21 15:45:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77299183462; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:45:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=EKejGBVj/digCCohFHO0G7x3ZNtplSgVYY82gtJEFho=; b=u7ZZ349bIqio9vYLeKwnC/ewTj6cmnMpTG7mpvWsQ3ShVG5LTcEpFLqJuTdkuCZc3T ntiJS/qPyEr76/YsS4LmmxBxk6dtj1QqmgcVzAUZ9Wh20u78tQmAtpi9yBE5jPQHK+AI XCtUZyimv9hnFGPdxTQmeKVYWPIsvYT2weBdo= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Unsubscribe Yourself (was Re: LD CD IV) From: Matthias Grob In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:45:13 -0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4180E0FA-18AB-4C70-BB5D-E81EAD27FA9A@gmail.com> References: <0D12F4912FB75044AD412D227F566ECF4BC09F973F@AL-ICT-EXMB.ufh-domain.local> <7DE4D4AF-BCF4-4F52-93E8-85F836C35C70@frontier.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112456 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:45:48 +0000 (UTC) > most other list-servs have links in each email that you click to = unsubscribe automatically (maybe LD should consider this?) =20 you know, we pretend to hate those unsubscribe mails but the truth is they always cause a moment of laughter, thats why I = read them before others :-) so no, please do not put that text at the footer, it looks ugly and cuts = the fun!= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 21 15:49:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D4F8183466; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:49:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=z1Ivfk/mf3YYjfzgbiBYMr0sXU54jy97KK4oE5ctaZU=; b=MDdMWZYYiw3U7bJr3OnmTnjrXSbBOVKHZi/KSw4aIJ+k5/wupgjgx6mAhm9P5jGfSE 5BXb/C2tK86p/Y744xc+z78P1o0A9uBvek4Q5q0DzH5ZVqtmz+RFuI4RwlXFgyzX0GP9 FBl03qlAOdIYnI5hkaaEwUfJKIdEPxxvST3V0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4EA16561.20300@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4EA16561.20300@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 11:49:10 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sounds looped, but isn't From: daryl shawn To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51dd5b597863804afd10331 Resent-Message-ID: <3auhoC.A.51B.3RZoOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112457 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:49:11 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec51dd5b597863804afd10331 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That dude totally blows. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:28 AM, andy butler wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=BzWITU3L-F0 > > and make sure you keep going till the end > > andy > > --bcaec51dd5b597863804afd10331 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That dude totally blows.

Daryl Shawn

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:28 AM, andy bu= tler <akbutl= er@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DBzWITU3L-F0

and make sure you keep going till the end

andy


--bcaec51dd5b597863804afd10331-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 21 16:11:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D8EB183463; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 16:11:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 688195790/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.188.62/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.188.62 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AloCAFQNoU5V0rw+/2dsb2JhbAAMN5ofkXABAQEDATgWKgYLCyEWDwkDAgECAR8mHAEZBIdftSmIKQSZF4xB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,384,1315177200"; d="scan'208";a="688195790" Message-ID: <4EA199BF.1020903@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 17:11:43 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Unsubscribe Yourself (was Re: LD CD IV) References: <0D12F4912FB75044AD412D227F566ECF4BC09F973F@AL-ICT-EXMB.ufh-domain.local> <7DE4D4AF-BCF4-4F52-93E8-85F836C35C70@frontier.com> <4180E0FA-18AB-4C70-BB5D-E81EAD27FA9A@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4180E0FA-18AB-4C70-BB5D-E81EAD27FA9A@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112458 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 16:11:50 +0000 (UTC) ............never showed his evil side before Matthias Grob wrote: > you know, we pretend to hate those unsubscribe mails > but the truth is they always cause a moment of laughter, thats why I read them before others :-) > so no, please do not put that text at the footer, it looks ugly and cuts the fun! > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 21 16:18:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD6BE183464; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 16:18:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 688198949/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.188.62/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.188.62 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AloCAFQNoU5V0rw+/2dsb2JhbAAMN5ofkXEBAQQZHzEBDhEsFg8JAwIBAgFFHAG9JYgpBJkXjEE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,384,1315177200"; d="scan'208";a="688198949" Message-ID: <4EA19B55.9090803@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 17:18:29 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: LD CD IV, UK/euro distrib References: <0D12F4912FB75044AD412D227F566ECF4BC09F973F@AL-ICT-EXMB.ufh-domain.local> <7DE4D4AF-BCF4-4F52-93E8-85F836C35C70@frontier.com> <4180E0FA-18AB-4C70-BB5D-E81EAD27FA9A@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4180E0FA-18AB-4C70-BB5D-E81EAD27FA9A@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112459 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 16:18:28 +0000 (UTC) anyone in uk selling these? andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 21 18:00:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7AD75183466; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 18:00:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fDGZMRD1l9ivIwSRKZCWkYXQwTFxSJQ9Lu4nx8QoOts=; b=PC1WHoU7ApjHxuZtqubD1gtWLiyZxpRYOw0lROSxoP2qc1p/BG5+MpI9EC6IXX+ycj HD0VtbLhKmFIjBw54oOPLjbytB+eVsF6As9RLxCQCa4Rn6yTxjA1JbGitp6Ck/uLnfUx NktMHgRqCSpm9wc/eGLKyZNhk1O3Vu0jvIsm0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 19:59:08 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: URGENT GLITCH! Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112460 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 18:00:12 +0000 (UTC) Hi Folks, I woke up this morning (actually 4 PM local time as my system still runs Californian time) only to find that my YK2X Dropbox is empty but with 13 videos in the upload cue. What this means is that as soon as someone is downloading a file this file will stop to be accessible for others. Sorry about that, I thought it would work more like a downloadable FTP box. I still have all files backed up here and will be working by the 'puter for a while now. I suggest that if someone is looking for something special he/she should send me a note and I'll re-upload that specific file. I didn't have the chance to video film the entire festival, as I was performing myself as well and still suffer under the habit of having to eat and sleep now and then. Best regards Per > Per Boysen schrieb: >> >> Hi, I uploaded all my photos and videos from this year's YK2 >> Inernational Loopfest Santa Cruz to a Dropbox folder. If you have >> Dropbox you can download from >> https://www.dropbox.com/home/Y2K%2B1pboy#/Y2K%2B1pboy::: >> >> If you want to get Dropbox first, here's my invitation link: >> http://db.tt/NAcpMDA >> >> My stuff seems to be more than the allowed content size but if people >> hurry up to download what they want I can delete the image files in >> about three days to make space for videos that tend to be larger >> files. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 21 18:16:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F2551183463; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 18:16:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1413 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 18:16:23 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: LD CD IV, UK/euro distrib From: Billy Thompson In-Reply-To: <4EA19B55.9090803@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 18:52:44 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3D6D3595-DB09-40EC-91B2-F40BC37287FD@thompsoundmusic.co.uk> References: <0D12F4912FB75044AD412D227F566ECF4BC09F973F@AL-ICT-EXMB.ufh-domain.local> <7DE4D4AF-BCF4-4F52-93E8-85F836C35C70@frontier.com> <4180E0FA-18AB-4C70-BB5D-E81EAD27FA9A@gmail.com> <4EA19B55.9090803@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Mailcore-Auth: 9862611 X-Mailcore-Domain: 27454 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112461 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 18:16:23 +0000 (UTC) Hello Andy and fellow loopers, I was going to send a post about this soon anyway... Billy Thompson here (on track 2 of the album)... I have just put the = Loopers Delight CD IV up for sale on my site... I will be adding links to each participant asap... Go to the shop page and you'll see the LDCDIV as the first thing there, All bestest, Billy. http://www.billythompson.co.uk http://www.thompsoundmusic.co.uk - The website for my studio services. http://www.myspace.com/violinbilly http://www.youtube.com/amledd billy@billythompson.co.uk billy@thompsoundmusic.co.uk +44(0)1678521391 +44(0)7720707744 On Oct 21, 2011, at 17:18, andy butler wrote: > anyone in uk selling these? >=20 >=20 >=20 > andy >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 21 18:22:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5FCB183464; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 18:22:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=SFLQ2r3kdFCMtrZ7lFmujBlPrfxGUP8QJHqElmlTjus=; b=repgi2Cpty9A8QwBjZYxy8CTV7OIA335wq1kUCu4ka5+HZUR//8+i7gi7x8duhjzzd zotpLa5JNk3aJhZIH93YXriUXXwjqHhMfsYqIy2GZKvR7w3w2pR1M4Hz+qDQpoTxoLFK ig8hw8IDd/tvRi3srBlfBo8j0amld8XX9FatY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 14:22:57 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: URGENT GLITCH! Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec520ebe795c47404afd32999 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112462 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 18:22:58 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec520ebe795c47404afd32999 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Per, the thing with Dropbox is that if you share a folder with someone then they can delete the files also. After I got mine from the folder I unshared it rather than deleted it..follow me? I couldn't afford to have that big of file on my account for long... The best thing to do in your case is to put the zip in your "public" folder. This will allow you to let others dl it without the need to sign up for an account also. You can just post a hot link like this one from mine... http://dl.dropbox.com/u/679233/2010.rar which is to one of my releases posted on a blog for download.. peace out, Jeff On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I woke up this morning (actually 4 PM local time as my system still > runs Californian time) only to find that my YK2X Dropbox is empty but > with 13 videos in the upload cue. What this means is that as soon as > someone is downloading a file this file will stop to be accessible for > others. Sorry about that, I thought it would work more like a > downloadable FTP box. > > I still have all files backed up here and will be working by the > 'puter for a while now. I suggest that if someone is looking for > something special he/she should send me a note and I'll re-upload that > specific file. I didn't have the chance to video film the entire > festival, as I was performing myself as well and still suffer under > the habit of having to eat and sleep now and then. > > Best regards > > Per > > > > Per Boysen schrieb: > >> > >> Hi, I uploaded all my photos and videos from this year's YK2 > >> Inernational Loopfest Santa Cruz to a Dropbox folder. If you have > >> Dropbox you can download from > >> https://www.dropbox.com/home/Y2K%2B1pboy#/Y2K%2B1pboy::: > >> > >> If you want to get Dropbox first, here's my invitation link: > >> http://db.tt/NAcpMDA > >> > >> My stuff seems to be more than the allowed content size but if people > >> hurry up to download what they want I can delete the image files in > >> about three days to make space for videos that tend to be larger > >> files. > > --bcaec520ebe795c47404afd32999 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Per,

the thing with Dropbox is that if you share a folder with some= one then they can delete the files also. After I got mine from the folder I= unshared it rather than deleted it..follow me? I couldn't afford to ha= ve that big of file on my account for long...

The best thing to do in your case is to put the zip in your "publi= c" folder. This will allow you to let others dl it without the need to= sign up for an account also. You can just post a hot link like this one fr= om mine...

http://dl.dropbox.c= om/u/679233/2010.rar

which is to one of my releases posted on a = blog for download..

peace out,

Jeff

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Folks,

I woke up this morning (actually 4 PM local time as my system still
runs Californian time) only to find that my YK2X Dropbox is empty but
with 13 videos in the upload cue. What this means is that as soon as
someone is downloading a file this file will stop to be accessible for
others. Sorry about that, I thought it would work more like a
downloadable FTP box.

I still have all files backed up here and will be working by the
'puter for a while now. I suggest that if someone is looking for
something special he/she should send me a note and I'll re-upload that<= br> specific file. I didn't have the chance to video film the entire
festival, as I was performing myself as well and still suffer under
the habit of having to eat and sleep now and then.

Best regards

Per


> Per Boysen schrieb:
>>
>> Hi, I uploaded all my photos and videos from this year's YK2 >> Inernational Loopfest Santa Cruz to a Dropbox folder. If you have<= br> >> Dropbox you can download from
>> https://www.dropbox.com/home/Y2K%2B1pboy#/Y2K%2B1pboy:::
>>
>> If you want to get Dropbox first, here's my invitation link: >>
http://db.tt/NA= cpMDA
>>
>> My stuff seems to be more than the allowed content size but if peo= ple
>> hurry up to download what they want I can delete the image files i= n
>> about three days to make space for videos that tend to be larger >> files.


--bcaec520ebe795c47404afd32999-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 21 18:30:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03DF2183462; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 18:30:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ImdEl20ACjL/J9/iIzgRgVksDeYP597RoqOPXtb/l4k=; b=FKMn35TxLbaCyw32d9+RSJr4J6drkRKfu3tOiawEfPF1c8ZvUMAJ95xJxLBVrUAm5Z wcGk4mfvBRi1pFIPhk3b6UfCxMtLcDpyn5x10wNd2bNY8jep2JIbowDbeNL08YkwWiF7 h1mzIqQu+iT+z4pyM7rr2AHPgLeTAUAMeJeQ0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 20:30:07 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: URGENT GLITCH! Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112463 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 18:30:08 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > The best thing to do in your case is to put the zip in your "public" folder. > This will allow you to let others dl it without the need to sign up for an > account also. Using my public DB folder was indeed my first strategy. But I found out that in order to make it work I would need to share each file with each buddy and that would just not be possible to achieve in real life :-)) And it would also prevent people from scanning and choosing what they want. But I didn't think about zipping or RARing the full bunch of it. That would indeed work with the public folder. It might be a 3 GB RAR to download and that seems a bit over the top for someone that only wants a few files. Someone just contacted me off-list with an FTP hosting suggestion and that might be a better solution. We'll see about that in the nearest future :-) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 21 18:32:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C01118345F; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 18:32:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=O8soES5AjaSQSuKiTXOb1TdkiAilvjoFEfxm2ChHpVA=; b=NRXI9SjJ1lXTu+cztu3q9O3B5NX4jccEuBGLj16X3ntQGsKKAytVlNTKfZszZMwLAz FP1KipKqkNkxmnSYbvsfCQ1OwJj0GWjZkQfkXd5TIWccGeP+mVqAvF8Fg2KS9N7eSN80 rxTCPX8LTZPNTXnEFqmt2rQAH/Rx3Ku1+v4yk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3D6D3595-DB09-40EC-91B2-F40BC37287FD@thompsoundmusic.co.uk> References: <0D12F4912FB75044AD412D227F566ECF4BC09F973F@AL-ICT-EXMB.ufh-domain.local> <7DE4D4AF-BCF4-4F52-93E8-85F836C35C70@frontier.com> <4180E0FA-18AB-4C70-BB5D-E81EAD27FA9A@gmail.com> <4EA19B55.9090803@tiscali.co.uk> <3D6D3595-DB09-40EC-91B2-F40BC37287FD@thompsoundmusic.co.uk> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 19:32:03 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LD CD IV, UK/euro distrib From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112464 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 18:32:04 +0000 (UTC) on a side note - billy, you got some serious chops there, fella (just went to your yootoob channel) - but where's the looping? i wanna see looping!!! show me the looping!!! cheese on toast for tea, is it, bra? :O) On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Billy Thompson wrote: > Hello Andy and fellow loopers, > > I was going to send a post about this soon anyway... > > Billy Thompson here (on track 2 of the album)... I have just put the Loopers Delight CD IV up for sale on my site... > > I will be adding links to each participant asap... > > Go to the shop page and you'll see the LDCDIV as the first thing there, > > All bestest, > > Billy. > http://www.billythompson.co.uk > http://www.thompsoundmusic.co.uk - The website for my studio services. > http://www.myspace.com/violinbilly > http://www.youtube.com/amledd > billy@billythompson.co.uk > billy@thompsoundmusic.co.uk > +44(0)1678521391 > +44(0)7720707744 > > > On Oct 21, 2011, at 17:18, andy butler wrote: > >> anyone in uk selling these? >> >> >> >> andy >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 21 19:31:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A8F5183460; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 19:31:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4EA1C876.6070101@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:31:02 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #759 for October 20, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112465 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 19:31:16 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/111020.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #759 October 20, 2011. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Steve Roach. The Featured CD at Midnight was disk one from "Immersion Five: Circadian Rhythms" on Timeroom Editions. http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#oct PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Mazmoneth The Vital Spark Music by Mirrors (DiN) Mazmoneth Oil on Water Music by Mirrors (DiN) Mazmoneth Diablo Music by Mirrors (DiN) Mazmoneth Spooks Music by Mirrors (DiN) Synth.nl Launchpad Apollo (Groove) Larry Kucharz love IA42 Unit I42 (International Audiochrome) Richard Lainhart Staring at the Moon Polychromatic Integers (Periphery) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Steve Roach Phase 1 - 3 Immersion Five: Circadian Rhythms (Timeroom Editions) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long focus on Steve Roach. The Featured CD at Midnight will be disk two from "Immersion Five: Circadian Rhythms" on Timeroom Editions. Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/listen on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 21 19:49:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A235183460; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 19:49:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=c+nNzR3U9ZXWL4FJ6fkwdtBIcD6IX1yGTJV/GCGa2vI=; b=yFnOwXD7nBDzzNqfwLdGoQ698R2zurTzFAdRabxPSoNIU4W+qclp6UBheO8L0j+nP6 6NaJnT2KKyet0aBsDH6fuPE1Un97U/QgQeYlu/klCsMoM5NTYm+LaaO+/3CjEUix7f8M vneqVT4JrNo+9QLr64NM4lcR/8GYwIZ9am0gY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 22:49:49 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: OT: Shameless self-promotion / New EP From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151773db1241c13004afd46046 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112466 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 19:49:51 +0000 (UTC) --00151773db1241c13004afd46046 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/album/origami Feel free to delete the post, just informing that I got my new EP ready. Strange trip to electronic music, which I have never done before... :-D Hugely appreciate if you'd take a listen / download!!!!! Greetings from Finland -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --00151773db1241c13004afd46046 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://petrilah= tinen.bandcamp.com/album/origami

Feel free to delete the post, j= ust informing that I got my new EP ready.
Strange trip to electronic mus= ic, which I have never done before...

:-D

Hugely appreciate if you'd take a listen / download!!!!!=

Greetings from Finland

--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www= .petrilahtinen.com

--00151773db1241c13004afd46046-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 21 20:08:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B914B183464; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 20:08:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=JqgvodN+eyu/etSgVUWdmyOKvuOn/FvnbG9cMVfzatY=; b=K0596pmTegyy8tc1l8U0H6llhhcRSJXE4HZJ5l0Fll+e06/1rX4QbW0i9MjkwYpl/R AlXyLSiGwkmYXrdH7BjGLOmkNNTCYsAfFsNeAtQLAPluog7xjXNxYx/KVcPvRtsAjwRM GbdeeyBu/vXMfhwXK8Spf9c7WpgQ0TEKbmd2M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 22:08:42 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: URGENT GLITCH! Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ra=FCl_Bonell?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec520f0c5c8a49104afd4a339 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112467 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 20:08:43 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec520f0c5c8a49104afd4a339 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 share each file, with its public link, from the public folder here (not the whole folder) & everybody colud download at the time, isn't? 2011/10/21 Per Boysen > On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > > The best thing to do in your case is to put the zip in your "public" > folder. > > This will allow you to let others dl it without the need to sign up for > an > > account also. > > Using my public DB folder was indeed my first strategy. But I found > out that in order to make it work I would need to share each file with > each buddy and that would just not be possible to achieve in real life > :-)) And it would also prevent people from scanning and choosing what > they want. But I didn't think about zipping or RARing the full bunch > of it. That would indeed work with the public folder. It might be a 3 > GB RAR to download and that seems a bit over the top for someone that > only wants a few files. > > Someone just contacted me off-list with an FTP hosting suggestion and > that might be a better solution. We'll see about that in the nearest > future :-) > > Per > > -- .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-..-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Your moral values are meaningless, artificial constructs. For your imagination, they provide you a falsely superior position in your social group. For the strong, they provide a means by which you are easily manipulated. In reality, they serve the entertainment needs of others. In the Kimatorium, they are irrelevant. Kim Flint .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com --bcaec520f0c5c8a49104afd4a339 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable share each file, with its public link, from the public folder here (not the= whole folder) & everybody colud download at the time, isn't?
2011/10/21 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8= :22 PM, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmai= l.com> wrote:
> The best thing to do in your case is to put the zip in your "publ= ic" folder.
> This will allow you to let others dl it without the need to sign up fo= r an
> account also.

Using my public DB folder was indeed my first strategy. But I found out that in order to make it work I would need to share each file with
each buddy and that would just not be possible to achieve in real life
:-)) =A0And it would also prevent people from scanning and choosing what they want. But I didn't think about zipping or RARing the full bunch of it. That would indeed work with the public folder. It might be a 3
GB RAR to download and that seems a bit over the top for someone that
only wants a few files.

Someone just contacted me off-list with an FTP hosting suggestion and
that might be a better solution. We'll see about that in the nearest future :-)

Per




--
.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-= .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-..-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-= .
Your moral values are meaningless, artificial constru= cts. For your imagination,
they provide you a falsely superior position in your social group.

For the strong, they provide a means by which you are e= asily manipulated.

In reality, they serve the en= tertainment needs of others.

In the Kimatorium, they are irrelevant.


Kim= Flint

.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.raulbonell.tumb= lr.com - collective= .com


--bcaec520f0c5c8a49104afd4a339-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 21 20:18:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5187B183466; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 20:18:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FUA+F6HNzY3slo/64oqiBpZ+9Yei7u+NYjWf8xOSgMY=; b=uP0DQNQ72hJI55kv2J438s4BHPZyWfT+DW1DcnVMSHV3ycGh0j7UydXCYko4lhyzsX Le0h5FbmeVrJICZmb011nn5rbtjPEg5H2+a/2hI0Sg8H1V4GUtTH4dP9mvVQ/8k3HG8/ ElXtsSfk+Bq9r9tBgKWeoVnThE7qaHTL3Lby8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 22:18:08 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: URGENT GLITCH! Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112468 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 20:18:10 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Ra=C3=BCl Bonell = wrote: > share each file, with its public link, from the public folder here (not t= he > whole folder) & everybody colud download at the time, isn't? That would be possible only if I sent one sharing invitation per file to each person. There must be about a hundred files and almost three hundred people. How long time would that take? :-)) Hold on, FTP Y2K Heaven just around the corner... Per - oh no, not busy at all... - ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 21 21:11:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F60A183464; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 21:11:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=k6NzV2UWdIwNGZr0AvvV/5T1JBEsD1om9e9d2Rqhdbg=; b=l0dK2fRul3wH2hiHeWXGf59H5cPBwoEFNdWO9Mocms+135ZpwFYLW7wZRpd/xWEVEm B9LGuLKVLxvQdbQl7cYL8omtp1T2JFfriXdPkt2QAgyiRVt8/yJ3qq3g+lYfRJkGoFuK JkR02Yj8wQidG4ETTyg6y0eSS8VDqGfer67AU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 17:11:31 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: URGENT GLITCH! Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5215fb768bc3104afd584d1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112469 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 21:11:32 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec5215fb768bc3104afd584d1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hehe, that set me to remembering last year. I had over 20 gigs of video which I sent individually to the artists that wanted them :) took a while, lol! j On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Ra=FCl Bonell > wrote: > > share each file, with its public link, from the public folder here (not > the > > whole folder) & everybody colud download at the time, isn't? > > That would be possible only if I sent one sharing invitation per file > to each person. There must be about a hundred files and almost three > hundred people. How long time would that take? :-)) > > Hold on, FTP Y2K Heaven just around the corner... > > Per > - oh no, not busy at all... - ;-) > > --bcaec5215fb768bc3104afd584d1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hehe, that set me to remembering last year. I had over 20 gigs of video whi= ch I sent individually to the artists that wanted them :)
=A0took a whil= e, lol!

j

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at = 4:18 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 21, 2= 011 at 10:08 PM, Ra=FCl Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
> share each file, with its public link, from the public folder here (no= t the
> whole folder) & everybody colud download at the time, isn't?
That would be possible only if I sent one sharing invitation per file
to each person. There must be about a hundred files and almost three
hundred people. How long time would that take? :-))

Hold on, FTP Y2K Heaven just around the corner...

Per
- oh no, not busy at all... - ;-)


--bcaec5215fb768bc3104afd584d1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 21 22:43:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 266BC183463; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 22:43:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=SBNEFIZWZYTxSVhEi/g+D+8Th71yM5ZXyXIj0lXWlIY=; b=kRmia2cFP7fns1qDjw7ILOEhKSFjmnKNISKlhjgfRrVUzbBgKiV29LV0ecQrIMKC+G 9g3/AD7uW4Sw//5B3KDbpOeETG4oXHMLwEhgVrQIYdxDAPzs2BfZZM/zIh4Il4cX0xY9 ntb4iUd87Rd09ZysWZHjx/fby4AWnl7bt+Bf0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 00:43:11 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: URGENT GLITCH! Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ra=FCl_Bonell?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04446bc73f03b504afd6cc35 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112470 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 22:43:12 +0000 (UTC) --f46d04446bc73f03b504afd6cc35 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable is not each public link the same for all? dunno. let's try it... guys! get this! (just a few kbs) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/284399/guesswhich.mp3 2011/10/21 Jeff Duke > hehe, that set me to remembering last year. I had over 20 gigs of video > which I sent individually to the artists that wanted them :) > took a while, lol! > > j > > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Ra=FCl Bonell >> wrote: >> > share each file, with its public link, from the public folder here (no= t >> the >> > whole folder) & everybody colud download at the time, isn't? >> >> That would be possible only if I sent one sharing invitation per file >> to each person. There must be about a hundred files and almost three >> hundred people. How long time would that take? :-)) >> >> Hold on, FTP Y2K Heaven just around the corner... >> >> Per >> - oh no, not busy at all... - ;-) >> >> > --=20 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-..-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-= .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Your moral values are meaningless, artificial constructs. For your imagination, they provide you a falsely superior position in your social group. For the strong, they provide a means by which you are easily manipulated. In reality, they serve the entertainment needs of others. In the Kimatorium, they are irrelevant. Kim Flint .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com --f46d04446bc73f03b504afd6cc35 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable is not each public link the same for all? dunno. let's try it...
guys! get this! (just a few kbs)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/284399/guesswhich.mp3
2011/10/21 Jeff Duke <<= a href=3D"mailto:jeffloops@gmail.com">jeffloops@gmail.com>
hehe, that set me to remembering last year. I had over 20 gigs of video whi= ch I sent individually to the artists that wanted them :)
=A0took a whil= e, lol!

j


On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Per Boy= sen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at= 10:08 PM, Ra=FCl Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
> share each file, with its public link, from the public folder here (no= t the
> whole folder) & everybody colud download at the time, isn't?
That would be possible only if I sent one sharing invitation per file
to each person. There must be about a hundred files and almost three
hundred people. How long time would that take? :-))

Hold on, FTP Y2K Heaven just around the corner...

Per
- oh no, not busy at all... - ;-)





--
.-.-.-.-.-.= -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-..-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.= -.-.-.
Your moral values are meaningless, artificial co= nstructs. For your imagination,
they provide you a falsely superior position in your social group.

For the strong, they provide a means by which you are e= asily manipulated.

In reality, they serve the en= tertainment needs of others.

In the Kimatorium, they are irrelevant.


Kim= Flint

.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.raulbonell.tumb= lr.com - collective= .com


--f46d04446bc73f03b504afd6cc35-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 01:27:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84D77183464; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 01:27:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Y0/6umZoyxNkx6Abi+jItSpDUAWnzoea9p1rtzaVd1M=; b=anbbPT/Nlm4oD21VQ9qNNPhqaOr3MQuZXKjR6y19n+TwKRVhFHkjnSSsHsqqmTAvzc +9k4SVdE+1jC6Gp6zNPQwvgVk09vpc44TK3NvL4GZMfFZaHVlEmuXH5O/vqFvRbZ2jsR F5277e18YnCcJRau1ICVPtzWtmE6zyeXUm448= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 03:27:05 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Shameless self-promotion / New EP From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ra=FCl_Bonell?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec520ecc368591704afd91692 Resent-Message-ID: <6VTcUC.A.QiE.rvhoOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112471 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 01:27:07 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec520ecc368591704afd91692 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable gorgeous! very prof sound, Petri. favourites: time to go, five times stronger, koan & vocal work in general. keep the good work. thanx x sharing! ra=FCl. 2011/10/21 Petri Lahtinen > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/album/origami > > Feel free to delete the post, just informing that I got my new EP ready. > Strange trip to electronic music, which I have never done before... > > :-D > > Hugely appreciate if you'd take a listen / download!!!!! > > Greetings from Finland > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > > --=20 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-..-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-= .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Your moral values are meaningless, artificial constructs. For your imagination, they provide you a falsely superior position in your social group. For the strong, they provide a means by which you are easily manipulated. In reality, they serve the entertainment needs of others. In the Kimatorium, they are irrelevant. Kim Flint .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com --bcaec520ecc368591704afd91692 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable gorgeous! very prof sound, Petri.
favourites: time to go, five times st= ronger, koan & vocal work in general.

keep the good work.
tha= nx x sharing!
ra=FCl.

2011/10/21 Petri= Lahtinen <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com>
http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/album/= origami

Feel free to delete the post, just informing that I got my new EP ready= .
Strange trip to electronic music, which I have never done before...
:-D

Hugely appreciate if you'd take a listen / download!!!!!=

Greetings from Finland
--
Petri Lahtinen

http://www.petrilahtinen.com




--
.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-= .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-..-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-= .
Your moral values are meaningless, artificial constru= cts. For your imagination,
they provide you a falsely superior position in your social group.

For the strong, they provide a means by which you are e= asily manipulated.

In reality, they serve the en= tertainment needs of others.

In the Kimatorium, they are irrelevant.


Kim= Flint

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--bcaec520ecc368591704afd91692-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 05:32:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66A34183473; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 05:32:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight. com'" Subject: Looper Archive parsing Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 00:32:32 -0500 Message-ID: <004401cc907c$013f93b0$03bebb10$@michaelplishka.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0045_01CC9052.186B1250" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AcyQe/xuq9J6ui8wQO2DSYAZ/M09Mg== Content-Language: en-us X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112472 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 05:32:39 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01CC9052.186B1250 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there any way to get an entire thread as one giant text file as opposed to having to click on each response and go the next and so on and so on and ... Thanks! Plish www.michaelplishka.com www.scribbledmusings.com www.zenstorming.com ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01CC9052.186B1250 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Is there = any way to get an entire thread as one giant text file as opposed to = having to click on each response and go the next and so on and so on and = …..

 

 

 

Thanks!


Plish

 

 

 

 

www.michaelplishka.com

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------=_NextPart_000_0045_01CC9052.186B1250-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 05:45:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68C4C183464; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 05:45:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WXzIzWJHirP9UvW4LxXlc2wBJh+OjNMXKznu+8Xp7Fs=; b=vD8VlRUQunYL2+6sOnJF9CC4t08bsSZRoRxUSqiy8AKB/sCHJ6ytgeDcwT0XOHCM0W WiAKpcK+jeX0+FmYB/KknDGqnqY4n4HNq4hI8uypsGXO2XQnhcr/bkc+W8QtKw+D+/0K DksdW96N8JOiiASjPmaz9BT/+bxp/i7zszgkg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 01:45:53 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Why...? From: william middlemiss To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364ef4aaf6e32c04afdcb310 Resent-Message-ID: <45ya3D.A.O-H.SiloOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112473 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 05:45:54 +0000 (UTC) --0016364ef4aaf6e32c04afdcb310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Why do you 'loop'? What got you started on this path? Was it a mechanism for solo performance? to record a vamp? A compositional device, a new avenue of expression? (repetition as compositional device?) An 'artistic statement' in itself? as if to say "I DONT NEED NO STINKIN BAND!" A fallback for artistic roadblocks? (as in--an easy way out) A way of exploring new rhythms? A textural apparatus? sound design? A means of 'warping sound'? With me, it's been all of the above, and I've jumped among 7 or 8 devices along the way. How about you? --0016364ef4aaf6e32c04afdcb310 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Why do you 'loop'? What got you started on this path?

Was it a mechanism for solo performance? to record a vamp?
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A compositional device, a new avenue of expression? (repetit= ion as compositional device?)

An 'artistic statement' in itself? as if to say= "I DONT NEED NO STINKIN BAND!"

A fallba= ck for artistic roadblocks? (as in--an easy way out)

A way of exploring new rhythms?

A textural ap= paratus? sound design?

A means of 'warping sou= nd'?

With me, it's been all of the above, = and I've jumped among 7 or 8 devices along the way.

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=
--0016364ef4aaf6e32c04afdcb310-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 05:51:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECAFB183463; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 05:51:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=NLs0xTC/zCfYb7HBr5xzl/QGsZEpHnXRHzh/th2yX+o=; b=QJqwFX6nd+bsnB+dkr06ICO9udsN2j1CJnL4q0w6ackjWmc7EhrmPJ0SmMAJb+AO5L FV4ZpW+cOWPPpXJszdM3Z8qJLaEh4FjR55bn+lJQUqBs/QJjTyA2gemnsU8UL04m6cdA za06/JjsEb189W7M3GhiwVohmL8SGi25WVznE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4EA199BF.1020903@tiscali.co.uk> References: <0D12F4912FB75044AD412D227F566ECF4BC09F973F@AL-ICT-EXMB.ufh-domain.local> <7DE4D4AF-BCF4-4F52-93E8-85F836C35C70@frontier.com> <4180E0FA-18AB-4C70-BB5D-E81EAD27FA9A@gmail.com> <4EA199BF.1020903@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 01:51:36 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Unsubscribe Yourself (was Re: LD CD IV) From: william middlemiss To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e65dc3b25fd99004afdcc83a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112474 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 05:51:37 +0000 (UTC) --0016e65dc3b25fd99004afdcc83a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey, no worries. You read them first, Ill read them last. On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 12:11 PM, andy butler wrote: > ............never showed his evil side before > > > Matthias Grob wrote: > > you know, we pretend to hate those unsubscribe mails >> but the truth is they always cause a moment of laughter, thats why I read >> them before others :-) >> so no, please do not put that text at the footer, it looks ugly and cuts >> the fun! >> >> > --0016e65dc3b25fd99004afdcc83a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, no worries. You read them first, Ill read them last.=A0

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On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at = 12:11 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
............never showed his evil side befo= re


Matthias Grob wrote:

you know, we pretend to hate those unsubscribe mails
but the truth is they always cause a moment of laughter, thats why I read t= hem before others :-)
so no, please do not put that text at the footer, it looks ugly and cuts th= e fun!



--0016e65dc3b25fd99004afdcc83a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 07:05:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96521183464; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 07:05:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020201.4EA26B32.014A,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=vUQgPkuIFdixsK0JqVXPakYPX3myWQVfjt2/U8ie43s= c=1 sm=1 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:17 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=Jjj7zD6lmpUClQiaWsgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Clayton Gary Lehmann" To: References: Subject: RE: Why...? Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 00:05:12 -0700 Message-ID: <1B6199507BA14C789075D4FED588E8D0@your0548c161e1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcyQfd/75kzIMZ97Q5WTOqMQct9DDgACvokg In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112475 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 07:05:24 +0000 (UTC) We just did this six weeks ago . . . I was trying to get chicks- ________________________________________ From: william middlemiss [mailto:billymiddlemiss@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:46 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Why...? Why do you 'loop'? What got you started on this path? Was it a mechanism for solo performance? to record a vamp? A compositional device, a new avenue of expression? (repetition as compositional device?) An 'artistic statement' in itself? as if to say "I DONT NEED NO STINKIN BAND!" A fallback for artistic roadblocks? (as in--an easy way out) A way of exploring new rhythms? A textural apparatus? sound design? A means of 'warping sound'? With me, it's been all of the above, and I've jumped among 7 or 8 devices along the way. How about you? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 07:11:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EFA36183460; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 07:11:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=QlyEHla0RGskDFTWPCXSGet+R7ZpLBP2g6yN2Q4SvOQ=; b=ri+M9RztPJO6AAYqMP0SqADlpo+Ylaq47nVKdBTvvHmfCqpD3r6Er/qI2wKYmYrAdj kSsRTeiaim6m4gOweVJa0pGy0r1cRjqgOsBTj4GECdyPOvIJQSd1N0dT7aYydUNH3UgD hz3hYPnZ6747i7XIi9vyxQs/X8ubFqsXMj/KU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1B6199507BA14C789075D4FED588E8D0@your0548c161e1> References: <1B6199507BA14C789075D4FED588E8D0@your0548c161e1> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 03:11:14 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why...? From: william middlemiss To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016362845e42ae69704afdde545 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112476 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 07:11:14 +0000 (UTC) --0016362845e42ae69704afdde545 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ahh ok then no need for a reprisal. Sorry for taking your time. On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 3:05 AM, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote: > We just did this six weeks ago . . . > I was trying to get chicks- > > ________________________________________ > From: william middlemiss [mailto:billymiddlemiss@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:46 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Why...? > > Why do you 'loop'? What got you started on this path? > > Was it a mechanism for solo performance? to record a vamp? > > A compositional device, a new avenue of expression? (repetition as > compositional device?) > > An 'artistic statement' in itself? as if to say "I DONT NEED NO STINKIN > BAND!" > > A fallback for artistic roadblocks? (as in--an easy way out) > > A way of exploring new rhythms? > > A textural apparatus? sound design? > > A means of 'warping sound'? > > With me, it's been all of the above, and I've jumped among 7 or 8 devices > along the way. > > How about you? > > > > > --0016362845e42ae69704afdde545 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ahh ok then no need for a reprisal. Sorry for taking your time.

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 3:05 AM, Clayton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net> wrote:
We just did this six weeks ago . . .
I was trying to get chicks-

________________________________________
From: william middlemiss [mailto:billymiddlemiss@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:46 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Why...?

Why do you 'loop'? What got you started on this path?

Was it a mechanism for solo performance? to record a vamp?

A compositional device, a new avenue of expression? (repetition as
compositional device?)

An 'artistic statement' in itself? as if to say "I DONT NEED NO STINKIN
BAND!"

A fallback for artistic roadblocks? (as in--an easy way out)

A way of exploring new rhythms?

A textural apparatus? sound design?

A means of 'warping sound'?

With me, it's been all of the above, and I've jumped among 7 or 8 devices
along the way.

How about you?





--0016362845e42ae69704afdde545-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 07:22:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9987F183465; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 07:22:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=78S3YEvBbTTbtmsLMu6fjFrooeDxCju4OYDh8LheXwA=; b=BU4yNxypvx5ffvaOQRXQefbvXYeN71Dtpk38HGo7/Uap7RnA0LbzgwI3i6HU8WQCF+ 1o+dLlmuJqjKcd85kqWNGwNsDb2cplB5Mw9WUN0ExE6zvcHlb+m/ND4L2dTKs0PwIzoD W7BnCCEp7mAuNBERwddcvnMrkePoW5i4wGRng= References: <004401cc907c$013f93b0$03bebb10$@michaelplishka.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: <004401cc907c$013f93b0$03bebb10$@michaelplishka.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8L1) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 09:22:48 +0200 Message-ID: <4750816114930039242@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: Looper Archive parsing To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549a19ff0fd504afde0ee3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112477 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 07:22:57 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549a19ff0fd504afde0ee3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i really can't believe that there Are still people who dont use gmail!!! thats the thing In gmail Mike, that theads Are ku ped together on one screen. Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 22 Oct 2011, at 07:32, "mike@michaelplishka.com" wrote: Is there any way to get an entire thread as one giant text file as opposed to having to click on each response and go the next and so on and so on and =85.. Thanks! Plish www.michaelplishka.com www.scribbledmusings.com www.zenstorming.com --20cf30549a19ff0fd504afde0ee3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
i really can't believe that there = Are still people who dont use gmail!!!

thats the t= hing In gmail Mike, that theads Are ku ped together on one screen.

Sent from my (advertisement removed)

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Thanks!


Plish

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www.michaelplishka.com

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--20cf30549a19ff0fd504afde0ee3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 11:11:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A577D183465; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 11:11:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <4A05DAE5-85BA-490B-94AC-5BD461D5644C@sea.plala.or.jp> From: Ed Durbrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4AA86AEE31E14C259F00BE5512C33D9A@your0548c161e1> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9--475193196 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 20:11:46 +0900 References: <26554538.2731.1318842568497.JavaMail.root@WARSBL213.highway.telekom.at> <4AA86AEE31E14C259F00BE5512C33D9A@your0548c161e1> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-VirusScan: Outbound; msa03b; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 20:11:46 +0900 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112478 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 11:11:51 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-9--475193196 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Oct 17, 2011, at 8:48 PM, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote: > Hehe-- > Pretend you're creative 8) Ooo, I like that. I have a rule to compose every day. I am a strong believer in subconscious work. So though my conscious mind may be at an impasse, if I feed my subconscious something to chew on, sooner or later it will regurgitate something up to my conscious. No work is wasted. Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ --Apple-Mail-9--475193196 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Oct 17, 2011, = at 8:48 PM, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote:


= --Apple-Mail-9--475193196-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 11:35:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B248B183464; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 11:35:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 691976612/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.16.138/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.16.138 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsICACSWok5YbRCK/2dsb2JhbAAMN5oikXIBAQEDAThABgsLIRYPCQMCAQIBRRwBh3yyM4hABJkijEM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,391,1315177200"; d="scan'208";a="691976612" Message-ID: <4EA2AA84.4010209@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 12:35:32 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Why...? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112479 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 11:35:31 +0000 (UTC) william middlemiss wrote: > An 'artistic statement' in itself? as if to say "I DONT NEED NO STINKIN > BAND!" :-) It could be an escape from all those things that band members do. Particularly rhythmically. > A way of exploring new rhythms? Could be part of it. A loop device won't 1) lose track of the beat if you play against it. 2) overplay if you ask it not to. 3) look blankly at you if asked to play something unlike it's usual repertoire. ....which we all experienced from band members A loop device can 1) play any time sig, ( and without having to hit every sub division). 2) play a rhythm that fits without hitting the same accents as you. 3) drop out when it suits the music. 4) play a contrasting musical statement when asked . e.g. allows the juxtaposition of amorphous loops with tight rhythm. 5) go along with anything you can imagine, every time. ....which humans often don't However looping devices are incredibly limited rhythmically compared to what is possible with humans. A human can 1) shift tempo with you...or for you 2) pick a counter rhythm which makes what you're playing sound better 3) compensate for you if your timing slips 4) surprise you 5) push you ....which generally a looping device can't do so looping offers a freedom from restriction, but brings it's own limitations. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 11:47:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A5753183464; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 11:47:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: LD CD IV, UK/euro distrib From: Billy Thompson In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 12:47:09 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <77E69597-CB6B-4F0B-816D-31D8605792E7@thompsoundmusic.co.uk> References: <0D12F4912FB75044AD412D227F566ECF4BC09F973F@AL-ICT-EXMB.ufh-domain.local> <7DE4D4AF-BCF4-4F52-93E8-85F836C35C70@frontier.com> <4180E0FA-18AB-4C70-BB5D-E81EAD27FA9A@gmail.com> <4EA19B55.9090803@tiscali.co.uk> <3D6D3595-DB09-40EC-91B2-F40BC37287FD@thompsoundmusic.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Mailcore-Auth: 9862611 X-Mailcore-Domain: 27454 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112480 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 11:47:13 +0000 (UTC) Hello Simeon, Many thanks... As yet there is no video footage of my looping escapades... Audio only = at the moment. I am a relative newbie compared to many of you but am = planning on building up a whole album of my loop based music. Some will = be my own compositions/improvisations and others I am commissioning from = colleagues The track I have on the LD CD IV is available to listen to (and = download) on my website. On that subject, I have now updated the website with links to all the = participants of the LD CD IV and the CD is available from my shop: = http://www.billythompson.co.uk/shop.html I very much look forward to hearing more feedback, and may I = congratulate the other participants on the CD also, Regards, Billy http://www.billythompson.co.uk http://www.thompsoundmusic.co.uk - The website for my studio services. http://www.myspace.com/violinbilly http://www.youtube.com/amledd billy@billythompson.co.uk billy@thompsoundmusic.co.uk +44(0)1678521391 +44(0)7720707744 On Oct 21, 2011, at 19:32, Simeon Harris wrote: > on a side note - billy, you got some serious chops there, fella (just > went to your yootoob channel) - but where's the looping? i wanna see > looping!!! >=20 > show me the looping!!! >=20 > cheese on toast for tea, is it, bra? :O) >=20 > On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Billy Thompson > wrote: >> Hello Andy and fellow loopers, >>=20 >> I was going to send a post about this soon anyway... >>=20 >> Billy Thompson here (on track 2 of the album)... I have just put the = Loopers Delight CD IV up for sale on my site... >>=20 >> I will be adding links to each participant asap... >>=20 >> Go to the shop page and you'll see the LDCDIV as the first thing = there, >>=20 >> All bestest, >>=20 >> Billy. >> http://www.billythompson.co.uk >> http://www.thompsoundmusic.co.uk - The website for my studio = services. >> http://www.myspace.com/violinbilly >> http://www.youtube.com/amledd >> billy@billythompson.co.uk >> billy@thompsoundmusic.co.uk >> +44(0)1678521391 >> +44(0)7720707744 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Oct 21, 2011, at 17:18, andy butler wrote: >>=20 >>> anyone in uk selling these? >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> andy >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 11:52:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1D83183473; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 11:52:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8aSn0kk0Q2+KTHS2mZ2pISPjF+ulgYInA3VIqKOjZDY=; b=IkqT+w6iLeIJOjBBoSzw7z2J+WGpd8FxOMQBVNePGiXkc+NZsHSP0n5U704KSa0PMg 2pQbfVEsjkZUwuILnElEBg98thlGmAG7c5PQ+nvJPid1SzwbIDA+ilwNrOebbDZPaguP PyOX0MW0Nj1bXF3cZTpp7v8EVYeUhIkHjkLO4= Message-ID: <4EA2AE96.5080008@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 13:52:54 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Looper's Delight Mailing List Subject: Tool for finding an audio snippet in a bigger collection of recorded audio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112481 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 11:52:49 +0000 (UTC) This is really OT, but also, if not here, then where would I find one who could help me with something like this... Some time ago, I had copied a snippet of audio out of a large pool of recordings (around 50-100 hours), compressed it and used it as a system sound. Now I want to find that source again, to work with that snipped (unprocessed) and its surroundings. So I need something of a tool that would cross-correlate some, but will find the snippet in the source files even though the snippet is much hotter (not necesarrily into clipping, but rather from a -30dB to a -8dB RMS or something) than the original. Anyone knows of a solution for this, other than listening through the whole 50-100 hours? Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 11:58:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAE6C183466; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 11:58:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "'mark francombe'" , References: <4750816114930039242@unknownmsgid> Subject: RE: Looper Archive parsing Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 13:58:32 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006C_01CC90C2.AFA19840" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <4750816114930039242@unknownmsgid> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Thread-Index: AcyQsHd7/W2hUTcvRbahOdzLm+ig7wAAVyLA Resent-Message-ID: <41s-1B.A.cDG.u_qoOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112482 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 11:58:38 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01CC90C2.AFA19840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think Mike inquired about the handling of the LD archive, not about the mailinglist -mpe _____ From: mark francombe [mailto:markfrancombe@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 9:23 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looper Archive parsing i really can't believe that there Are still people who dont use gmail!!! thats the thing In gmail Mike, that theads Are ku ped together on one screen. Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 22 Oct 2011, at 07:32, "mike@michaelplishka.com" wrote: Is there any way to get an entire thread as one giant text file as opposed to having to click on each response and go the next and so on and so on and ... ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01CC90C2.AFA19840 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I=20 think Mike inquired about the handling of the LD archive, not about the=20 mailinglist   -mpe


From: mark francombe=20 [mailto:markfrancombe@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, October = 22, 2011=20 9:23 AM
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject:=20 Re: Looper Archive parsing

i really can't believe that there Are still people who dont use=20 gmail!!!

thats the thing In gmail Mike, that theads Are ku ped together on = one=20 screen.

Sent from my (advertisement removed)

On 22 Oct 2011, at 07:32, "mike@michaelplishka.com" = <mike@michaelplishka.com>=20 wrote:

Is there any way to get an entire thread as one = giant=20 text file as opposed to having to click on each response and go the = next and=20 so on and so on and = …..

------=_NextPart_000_006C_01CC90C2.AFA19840-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 12:49:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65064183462; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 12:49:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <7A179B2DB20244088A8707C998031EA5@ELUK1> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <4EA2AE96.5080008@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4EA2AE96.5080008@googlemail.com> Subject: Re: Tool for finding an audio snippet in a bigger collection of recorded audio Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 13:49:35 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-15"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3538.513 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3538.513 Resent-Message-ID: <4fVslD.A.o2G.bvroOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112483 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 12:49:31 +0000 (UTC) I found an app that does the contents text search the way Window Search used to. I tested it on my music library, and it found the text in the tags I put in them. http://download.cnet.com/Effective-File-Search/3000-2248_4-10056419.html?tag=mncol;9 -----Original Message----- From: Rainer Straschill Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 12:52 PM To: Looper's Delight Mailing List Subject: Tool for finding an audio snippet in a bigger collection of recorded audio This is really OT, but also, if not here, then where would I find one who could help me with something like this... Some time ago, I had copied a snippet of audio out of a large pool of recordings (around 50-100 hours), compressed it and used it as a system sound. Now I want to find that source again, to work with that snipped (unprocessed) and its surroundings. So I need something of a tool that would cross-correlate some, but will find the snippet in the source files even though the snippet is much hotter (not necesarrily into clipping, but rather from a -30dB to a -8dB RMS or something) than the original. Anyone knows of a solution for this, other than listening through the whole 50-100 hours? Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 13:09:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40446183466; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 13:09:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tR+LsIRdIkU6Wru8JE/SqJavYCqcGOazcjcD9/OBzWk=; b=h4npMHkcV8lTNJt11uitZ5SSzR3Cz6Mf7/0WRGUDEK6Ke2t7QR6klZD4oJTT1c53Xj tUd/rLMNLigVo6URVL71jDiPb1TLdD5GV49gzFE4vsfWV0z4tqIIhliZrP8zSo2pnVXY qeH7C5BSr4uD2m3bxmS2VWo+6mGlhrFgggJ28= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 14:09:51 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Shameless self-promotion / New EP From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112484 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 13:09:52 +0000 (UTC) nice! On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:27 AM, Ra=FCl Bonell wrot= e: > gorgeous! very prof sound, Petri. > favourites: time to go, five times stronger, koan & vocal work in general= . > > keep the good work. > thanx x sharing! > ra=FCl. > > 2011/10/21 Petri Lahtinen >> >> http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/album/origami >> >> Feel free to delete the post, just informing that I got my new EP ready. >> Strange trip to electronic music, which I have never done before... >> >> :-D >> >> Hugely appreciate if you'd take a listen / download!!!!! >> >> Greetings from Finland >> >> -- >> Petri Lahtinen >> >> http://www.petrilahtinen.com >> > > > > -- > .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-..-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-= .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. > Your moral values are meaningless, artificial constructs. For your > imagination, > they provide you a falsely superior position in your social group. > For the strong, they provide a means by which you are easily manipulated. > In reality, they serve the entertainment needs of others. > In the Kimatorium, they are irrelevant. > > Kim Flint > .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. > raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 13:51:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4B37183464; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 13:51:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 692031981/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.16.138/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.16.138 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsMCACSWok5YbRCK/2dsb2JhbAAMN5oikXIBAQEEODEBDhELGAkWDwkDAgECAUUZAwGIBLIriEAEmSKFG4co X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,391,1315177200"; d="scan'208";a="692031981" Message-ID: <4EA2CA72.4000400@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 14:51:46 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LD CD IV, UK/euro distrib References: <0D12F4912FB75044AD412D227F566ECF4BC09F973F@AL-ICT-EXMB.ufh-domain.local> <7DE4D4AF-BCF4-4F52-93E8-85F836C35C70@frontier.com> <4180E0FA-18AB-4C70-BB5D-E81EAD27FA9A@gmail.com> <4EA19B55.9090803@tiscali.co.uk> <3D6D3595-DB09-40EC-91B2-F40BC37287FD@thompsoundmusic.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <3D6D3595-DB09-40EC-91B2-F40BC37287FD@thompsoundmusic.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112485 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 13:51:45 +0000 (UTC) hi Billy, doesn't seem possible to either assess the cost, or make the purchase from your site. Could be just that the internet is slow here at the moment. Would you like to trade one for LD III ? Also trade one of your solo CDs for one of mine? andy Billy Thompson wrote: > Hello Andy and fellow loopers, > > I was going to send a post about this soon anyway... > > Billy Thompson here (on track 2 of the album)... I have just put the Loopers Delight CD IV up for sale on my site... > > I will be adding links to each participant asap... > > Go to the shop page and you'll see the LDCDIV as the first thing there, > > All bestest, > > Billy. > http://www.billythompson.co.uk > http://www.thompsoundmusic.co.uk - The website for my studio services. > http://www.myspace.com/violinbilly > http://www.youtube.com/amledd > billy@billythompson.co.uk > billy@thompsoundmusic.co.uk > +44(0)1678521391 > +44(0)7720707744 > > > On Oct 21, 2011, at 17:18, andy butler wrote: > >> anyone in uk selling these? >> >> >> >> andy >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 14:20:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8409E183464; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 14:20:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=YKQiBBT4iRB5kIT8lnG7zUo134O+3wguROHmkwooYgQ=; b=mkD2yAOtFot8ixtk63JShSkRFFculDoFQ82PCEff28PjrAISMqFFZA2vsgQxAooHRu H9hg59TeeYh1tZqys0NqCJDTsJhIXSYj5LwW+YBvUTpSgU2A3LiLhkRMUB6ISknej6V+ 2lqhWeJOipxzFQAlIdW2EG6GkrJItI7p0EkNU= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: URGENT GLITCH! Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 From: Matthias Grob In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 11:19:59 -0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9E97177E-4F6D-45A4-ACA5-A37CD85914D6@gmail.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112486 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 14:20:18 +0000 (UTC) interesting, yesterday I tried to download another file and dropbox told = me its ot available because some Rick Walker had deleted it but offered = me to recuperate it and then yes I was able to dl ok and now I am = watching the first time: pboy playing the stick!!=20 youhou! =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 14:26:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E767718345F; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 14:26:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Rdzdjcu5Potpqu5Y7xYcU29y8G9awhmHoE9IyHOczHw=; b=CgI9sX8zsO9LvlFyd7s9XOr2X3+6r+4eRLuR0QWiNdaJ0cQB/NUzOSIPqeOLyeS1TX LitmKCq0HAPBCB12JUZCuwJaUwRFRl30zcs8axWF7Hxrvr4sinVBAL/XqxQHysOLsABy yw3WDssVi0VenA4yQ8YDsGUFb1tkvh95PzWrU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 16:26:42 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why...? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112487 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 14:26:43 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 7:45 AM, william middlemiss wrote: > Why do you 'loop'? What got you started on this path? To me it is just another way of extending and optimizing the instrument I play. I've spent an awful lot of time bending Stratocaster twangbars and polishing sax mouthpiece tone chambers, not to mention the mountains of different guitar string types or sax bamboo reed brands I have bought only to find they did not give the sound I was looking for. Looping is just one stage in that long research process, this long and winding road. But today I have pretty much found the tools I need so I can focus more on making music. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 14:33:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8408183465; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 14:33:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=abh+b/l60wdYyeT1SULIWpMRXVp5dEet3jEdb2edF54=; b=jACp7IxjlnUnt2K75T+t15COL3PgpPi+y09LSjXO2tIEt2EJVbNu4kP7bCJkQiMZVx egf3QR0LhmdaFBlehR1eZHv+Q9uqriCFT+42zwRFnpi3CZim5pCSpC1fmUoTJv2NNXvJ Kjt0ZKkYci0fvXet7ftaC6hYedNHEqU159mz0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9E97177E-4F6D-45A4-ACA5-A37CD85914D6@gmail.com> References: <9E97177E-4F6D-45A4-ACA5-A37CD85914D6@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 16:33:32 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: URGENT GLITCH! Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112488 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 14:33:33 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: > interesting, yesterday I tried to download another file and dropbox told me its ot available because some Rick Walker had deleted it but offered me to recuperate it yeeah... those Rick Walkers are all over the net these days! ;-) Try Chris Robert's web archive instead: http://www.musetrap.com/y2kx1/ I have now uploaded almost all of my festival documentation there and everyone can download as much as one likes by the usual web browser technique (right-click or alt-click or whatever 'puter/system you're on) Big thanks to Chris for providing the server space to share this! Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 15:38:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3A5B183473; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 15:38:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1319297931; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=CUhcTQBRPRDkrpYejcY9kSTWMo8=; b=fGtlgTv+NHQI7/e+vBxlZ+p/XqJbo44jk2OVSxVNMmkB1hkgDc4yQw484YspRlXP U4oGtkNZmoLOEcQ2HVuVjHR4dyo9bHyJUI/9r1c72Vm7/xw4gnuGoDJeqWp3sgG1; X-BINDING: X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Zuxv2qHG c=1 sm=0 a=BGrm90Ufsm1NYq04HZOLUg==:17 a=1poGYrevpj8A:10 a=bvXBarUKqJOtBgDz6N8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=rZA9DI6A8sLFFWBGwioA:9 a=ZGQTeerQAw6M3NPY9zIA:7 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=BGrm90Ufsm1NYq04HZOLUg==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=ejyuhas@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) From: "ejyuhas" Message-ID: <54.CB.19719.B83E2AE4@smtp04.embarq.synacor.com> To: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Why...? Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 11:38:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_016F_01CC90AF.2CF14E30" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.1.7601.17609 Thread-Index: AcyQyVHYWCMDhnTEQEe7PC4d9uUUBwABdWUg Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112489 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 15:38:52 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_016F_01CC90AF.2CF14E30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Why do you 'loop'? What got you started on this path? I bought my first looper to help me record chords to practice scales and soloing over...it has progressed into "what I do" now... Was it a mechanism for solo performance? to record a vamp? It became one...and I saw the potential in it for becoming a solo ambient artist. A compositional device, a new avenue of expression? Yes, to try new ideas, then erase them and try again, if I am dissatisfied... An 'artistic statement' in itself? as if to say "I DONT NEED NO STINKIN BAND!" Sometimes....but I am working with a friend who uses iPhone and a Macbook, and I will still use live looping for pads, ambience, etc. on guitar. A textural apparatus? sound design? The textures I can achieve as a 'one-man' operation, even stun ME some days... A means of 'warping sound'? Yes, that along with the variety of electronics and other devices, ie. means of creating and manipulating sounds, found sounds, reverbs, processed, etc. Loopers owned: RC-20 (my first!), a DD-20, 2-DL4s, a Boomerang III, an LP-1, and 2 EHX Freeze pedals, one modified w/ SEND-RETURN. Fun!!!! Regards, Edward Yuhas PS I'm not using them all at once! LOL...curently loving my Boomerang, though... ------=_NextPart_000_016F_01CC90AF.2CF14E30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Why do you 'loop'? What got you started on this = path?

I bought my first looper to help = me record chords to practice scales and soloing over...it has progressed into = "what I do" now...

 

=

 

Was it a mechanism for solo performance? to record a = vamp?

It became one...and I saw the = potential in it for becoming a solo ambient artist.

 

=

 

A compositional device, a new avenue of expression? =

Yes, to try new ideas, then erase = them and try again, if I am dissatisfied...

 

=

 

An 'artistic statement' in itself? as if to say "I DONT = NEED NO STINKIN BAND!"

Sometimes....but I am working with = a friend who uses iPhone and a Macbook, and I will still use live looping for = pads, ambience, etc. on guitar.

 

A textural apparatus? sound design?

The textures I can achieve as a = 'one-man' operation, even stun ME some days...

 

=

 

A means of 'warping sound'?

Yes, that along with the variety = of electronics and other devices, ie. means of creating and manipulating = sounds, found sounds, reverbs, processed, etc.

 

Loopers owned: RC-20 (my first!), a = DD-20, 2-DL4s, a Boomerang III, an LP-1, and 2 EHX Freeze pedals, one modified = w/ SEND-RETURN. Fun!!!!

 

Regards,

 

Edward = Yuhas

 

PS I'm not using them all at once! LOL...curently loving my Boomerang, = though...

 

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_016F_01CC90AF.2CF14E30-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 16:27:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24621183464; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 16:27:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1119 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 16:27:07 UTC X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1319299706-3265001f0000-hGRpYp X-Barracuda-URL: http://66.195.129.15:8000/cgi-bin/mark.cgi X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: Why...? Subject: Re: Why...? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: David Gans In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 09:08:23 -0700 Cc: David Gans Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8A1524E8-286D-4785-A6BB-AA45F05FA94F@trufun.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Barracuda-Connect: www1.ethostream.com[66.195.129.11] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1319299706 X-Barracuda-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at ethostream.com X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=1.4 tests= X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.2.71814 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112490 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 16:27:07 +0000 (UTC) I started looping because I was touring as a solo acoustic = singer-songwriter and wanted to be able to play solos. I started with a = Line 6 but it didn't have enough storage to get through a whole set of = changes, so I moved to the Boss RC-20. Once I had that amazing tool at = my feet, I started seeing its creative potential. Now I have a number = of loop-based instrumental compositions, and several songs that are = built on loops. And when I'm feeling brave, as I did last night at = FitzGerald's in Berwyn IL, I will open a show with a fresh loop improv. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 16:27:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B68AA183464; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 16:27:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: LD CD IV, UK/euro distrib From: Billy Thompson In-Reply-To: <4EA2CA72.4000400@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 17:27:45 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8CE05D4E-99E0-4F48-9C51-DE52BDA1BEF6@thompsoundmusic.co.uk> References: <0D12F4912FB75044AD412D227F566ECF4BC09F973F@AL-ICT-EXMB.ufh-domain.local> <7DE4D4AF-BCF4-4F52-93E8-85F836C35C70@frontier.com> <4180E0FA-18AB-4C70-BB5D-E81EAD27FA9A@gmail.com> <4EA19B55.9090803@tiscali.co.uk> <3D6D3595-DB09-40EC-91B2-F40BC37287FD@thompsoundmusic.co.uk> <4EA2CA72.4000400@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Mailcore-Auth: 9862611 X-Mailcore-Domain: 27454 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112491 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 16:27:51 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for the heads up there Andy, The 'add to cart' link from the = 'more info' page was working fine however... Have remedied that now. LD CD IV really IS now available from = http://www.billythompson.co.uk/shop.html Regards, Billy. On Oct 22, 2011, at 14:51, andy butler wrote: > hi Billy, > doesn't seem possible to either > assess the cost, or make the purchase > from your site. > Could be just that the internet is slow here at the moment. >=20 > Would you like to trade one for LD III ? >=20 > Also trade one of your solo CDs for one of mine? >=20 > andy >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Billy Thompson wrote: >> Hello Andy and fellow loopers, >> I was going to send a post about this soon anyway... >> Billy Thompson here (on track 2 of the album)... I have just put the = Loopers Delight CD IV up for sale on my site... >> I will be adding links to each participant asap... >> Go to the shop page and you'll see the LDCDIV as the first thing = there, >> All bestest, >> Billy. >> http://www.billythompson.co.uk >> http://www.thompsoundmusic.co.uk - The website for my studio = services. >> http://www.myspace.com/violinbilly >> http://www.youtube.com/amledd >> billy@billythompson.co.uk >> billy@thompsoundmusic.co.uk >> +44(0)1678521391 >> +44(0)7720707744 >> On Oct 21, 2011, at 17:18, andy butler wrote: >>> anyone in uk selling these? >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> andy >>>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 16:35:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FC00183466; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 16:35:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: LD CD IV, UK/euro distrib From: Billy Thompson In-Reply-To: <4EA2CA72.4000400@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 17:35:46 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <973C6D63-291B-4818-A57A-2E4CB1C00003@thompsoundmusic.co.uk> References: <0D12F4912FB75044AD412D227F566ECF4BC09F973F@AL-ICT-EXMB.ufh-domain.local> <7DE4D4AF-BCF4-4F52-93E8-85F836C35C70@frontier.com> <4180E0FA-18AB-4C70-BB5D-E81EAD27FA9A@gmail.com> <4EA19B55.9090803@tiscali.co.uk> <3D6D3595-DB09-40EC-91B2-F40BC37287FD@thompsoundmusic.co.uk> <4EA2CA72.4000400@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Mailcore-Auth: 9862611 X-Mailcore-Domain: 27454 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112492 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 16:35:50 +0000 (UTC) > Would you like to trade one for LD III=20 I bought LD III > Also trade one of your solo CDs for one of mine? Sure, great, Billy. http://www.billythompson.co.uk > andy >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Billy Thompson wrote: >> Hello Andy and fellow loopers, >> I was going to send a post about this soon anyway... >> Billy Thompson here (on track 2 of the album)... I have just put the = Loopers Delight CD IV up for sale on my site... >> I will be adding links to each participant asap... >> Go to the shop page and you'll see the LDCDIV as the first thing = there, >> All bestest, >> Billy. >> http://www.billythompson.co.uk >> http://www.thompsoundmusic.co.uk - The website for my studio = services. >> http://www.myspace.com/violinbilly >> http://www.youtube.com/amledd >> billy@billythompson.co.uk >> billy@thompsoundmusic.co.uk >> +44(0)1678521391 >> +44(0)7720707744 >> On Oct 21, 2011, at 17:18, andy butler wrote: >>> anyone in uk selling these? >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> andy >>>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 17:04:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53ADC183462; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 17:04:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MfRqnAQT30xuVoQzu2ouM64LdJ5aOLMPG7gomhGoS7c=; b=qH/GkFKkVCDJGlNx4ddpFXGKqv9JxxzqYeEo1SGQVuh4W8lLMysRhfMilvfLT+OpuT S17zgkLeUt6A59yaZM0hfcmIJ4h6nYEgawpzCNn84VxFdm+lvGdjDsdo3tEoROawL20o 6bhbpy/6OltK6piGo5EUPdb6DFTY/BFH6prf0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: danielhlevine@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 13:04:25 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: naPOm7fSd9pDw0Djw7N_5NZpDb0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why...? From: daniel To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d648379a09ac04afe62ef9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112493 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 17:04:27 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d648379a09ac04afe62ef9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Why do you 'loop'? What got you started on this path? *Honestly, got the idea from Keller Williams and Victor Wooten. I bought an RC-20 in 2004 and went right to trying to be those guys (obviously). Then, I came up with this extended melody, laid it down, put some layers on it and that's when I started writing ambient music. This is the first album I recorded with it (and the first track is the first song I wrote on the RC-20): http://danielharris.bandcamp.com/album/in-the-head-syrup* Was it a mechanism for solo performance? to record a vamp? *To experiment!* A compositional device, a new avenue of expression? (repetition as compositional device?) *Everything. * An 'artistic statement' in itself? as if to say "I DONT NEED NO STINKIN BAND!" *No, I'm not that pretentious. * A fallback for artistic roadblocks? (as in--an easy way out) *No. * A way of exploring new rhythms? *Totally. * A textural apparatus? sound design? *Fuck yeah. * A means of 'warping sound'? *Yeup.* On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 1:45 AM, william middlemiss < billymiddlemiss@gmail.com> wrote: > Why do you 'loop'? What got you started on this path? > > Was it a mechanism for solo performance? to record a vamp? > > A compositional device, a new avenue of expression? (repetition as > compositional device?) > > An 'artistic statement' in itself? as if to say "I DONT NEED NO STINKIN > BAND!" > > A fallback for artistic roadblocks? (as in--an easy way out) > > A way of exploring new rhythms? > > A textural apparatus? sound design? > > A means of 'warping sound'? > > With me, it's been all of the above, and I've jumped among 7 or 8 devices > along the way. > > How about you? > > > > --0016e6d648379a09ac04afe62ef9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Why do you 'loop'? What got you started on this path?
Honestly, got the idea from Keller Williams and= Victor Wooten. I bought an RC-20 in 2004 and went right to trying to be th= ose guys (obviously). Then, I came up with this extended melody, laid it do= wn, put some layers on it and that's when I started writing ambient mus= ic. This is the first album I recorded with it (and the first track is the = first song I wrote on the RC-20): http://danielharris.bandcamp.com/album/in-the-h= ead-syrup

Was it a mechanism for solo performance? to record a v= amp?
To experiment!

A compositional device, a new avenue of expression?= (repetition as compositional device?)
Everything.

An 'artistic statement' in itself? as if to say "I DON= T NEED NO STINKIN BAND!"
No, I'm not that pretentious.

A fallbac= k for artistic roadblocks? (as in--an easy way out)
No.

A way of exploring new rhythms?
Totally.

A textural apparatus? sound = design?
Fuck yeah.

A means of 'warping sound'?
Yeup.


On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 1:45 AM, william middlemiss <billymiddlemiss@gmail.com= > wrote:
Why do you 'loop'? What got you sta= rted on this path?

Was it a mechanism for solo performan= ce? to record a vamp?

A compositional device, a new avenue of expression? (re= petition as compositional device?)

An 'artistic statement' in itself? as if to say= "I DONT NEED NO STINKIN BAND!"

A fallba= ck for artistic roadblocks? (as in--an easy way out)

A way of exploring new rhythms?

A textural ap= paratus? sound design?

A means of 'warping sou= nd'?

With me, it's been all of the above, = and I've jumped among 7 or 8 devices along the way.

How about you?


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--0016e6d648379a09ac04afe62ef9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 17:54:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4FA0183462; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 17:54:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; bh=FGDWuRav+TOe29rT8wP5o3xVdk/rr2ifnFIme+aU5qQ=; b=YNedTAd0AouD1hlTgnRUcQ3DS7cEFa+u02Q7XyfpRFlAWgC8iNC/NHpIVKe3pbV1Z8 XC1TsmhAM8quDaniQI1IQ8VVQ+7grCocvvR4Vtllj4Utws68yZMgjTbRpFevRYieLD/B oMWXEQZ/+Ne8dSgq1zihNUCc0PQl5R55lpMQY= Message-Id: From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--451030473 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: URGENT GLITCH! Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 10:54:29 -0700 References: <9E97177E-4F6D-45A4-ACA5-A37CD85914D6@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112494 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 17:54:34 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--451030473 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Oct 22, 2011, at 7:33 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > everyone can download as much as one likes by the usual web browser > technique HI I am getting a 'url not valid' alert for most of the .movs in the Oct 16 sc directory. They will not download or stream. BobC --Apple-Mail-2--451030473 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Oct 22, 2011, = at 7:33 AM, Per Boysen wrote:

everyone can = download as much as one likes by the usual web = browser
technique

HI

I am getting a 'url not valid' alert for most of the .movs in = the Oct 16 sc directory.
They will not download or = stream.

BobC
= --Apple-Mail-2--451030473-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 17:59:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 863FB183463; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 17:59:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZpGQllSRga2dMCfI0fh9R9v0OX02bzvn4FDlgVOrgtg=; b=PDKOjAh3P+xiWuBOpRF4p60oIOXeCCWmH7vj//SV2vrwAC2dxssXbXA+mtlgH32/G5 ZmCCEzYsYWPQ3VFm9mp1ge4eNPszGyJss8sQje1VVivlK4sAG9gBgfBEMKrogs2cefLC XVahXxroGO3txZmjvw0oDLO9Xtmv1J1wDsbkI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A05DAE5-85BA-490B-94AC-5BD461D5644C@sea.plala.or.jp> References: <26554538.2731.1318842568497.JavaMail.root@WARSBL213.highway.telekom.at> <4AA86AEE31E14C259F00BE5512C33D9A@your0548c161e1> <4A05DAE5-85BA-490B-94AC-5BD461D5644C@sea.plala.or.jp> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 10:59:12 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What do YOU do when creativity dries up? From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112495 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 17:59:13 +0000 (UTC) > No work is wasted. That's a nice aphorism. Kevin --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 18:07:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F744183461; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 18:07:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=2Dus38KGQTxgb5Bzai8TIKfJMEXpc0fT1+YO9ayrCSo=; b=PmKLrfHYOmZ6czHeMGEIfeW2u7rnyeKG+E57eEncNKIolTRqMBCgvwcXRYE9kC7gHO K1MbtN6HnD5WJpFxhGDV4FGLvsUCoWksyaBG6qTjSHfgZgoMsVfCvzw+d7Z3zzbwwWr2 5K69ip188dF4F0d63/uoJ3YJu/GFyKEVyct2U= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <9E97177E-4F6D-45A4-ACA5-A37CD85914D6@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 20:07:53 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: URGENT GLITCH! Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112496 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 18:07:54 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 7:54 PM, RP Collier wrote: > I am getting a 'url not valid' alert for most of the .movs in the Oct 16 sc > directory. > They will not download or stream. Sorry, Bob. I have no idea why that is. I tried to download an jpg picture file and it worked fine. While I'm typing this only one file is still not completely uploaded ("P1010360_pboy_stereo.MOV"). The rest says "upload completed" here in my FTP client. Chris said he would take a look on the server and maybe he will find out something, but from here on a distance I can't troubleshoot effectively. Also, the folder "Oct 16 sc" also contains videos from Oct 15's festival. I just dumped both day's filming into the same folder. Will change the folder name accordingly as soon as the last file has uploaded (can't change file name while still uploading or the files will get lost in space) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 18:16:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 237C4183464; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 18:16:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; bh=s5HdmKURBWe6yb54m+ghzrKFaCWMdCcrWh2Zrrh2TOo=; b=h4UhQLkteMxQE8K9r3s63Rw75Zmw+JxiW4qYBYNJi8a7E5aHlixsLWmivklKhlz4cN Tr7Q0BAk0fbQcGXwuLDZ6RNecMdnFtciGxUvxtLtamv2iizeP5+mHooL8g8g3ZAnqL0X vujsjn+oin18N4j3+RGsg5fY55XpFxYbYZ8Ek= Message-Id: From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--449721102 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: URGENT GLITCH! Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 11:16:18 -0700 References: <9E97177E-4F6D-45A4-ACA5-A37CD85914D6@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <_v-TMB.A.mRE.2hwoOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112497 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 18:16:23 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--449721102 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Oct 22, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Chris said he > would take a look on the server and maybe he will find out something, > but from here on a distance I can't troubleshoot effectively. I tried to download Rick and Matts movs and what I get is: 'no permission to read file' just fyi thanks for the efforts. b --Apple-Mail-3--449721102 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Oct 22, 2011, = at 11:07 AM, Per Boysen wrote:

Chris said = he
would take a look on the server and maybe he will find out = something,
but from here on a distance I can't troubleshoot = effectively.


I tried to download = Rick and Matts movs and what I get is: 'no permission to read = file'

just fyi

thanks = for the efforts.

b
= --Apple-Mail-3--449721102-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 18:55:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D519183473; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 18:55:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=CKBBFOpPYfBSFfEY1Rl9efxuAv/fdt7oFsWUUq3BrLQ= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:17 a=Mh-dMWWExm2PAJNg8TQA:9 a=yFOV734lT-Pi-yY44GMA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Why...? From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 11:55:07 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3483B400-9E97-4359-BD53-EA2D1F29098D@charter.net> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <7GuRaD.A.A2E.NGxoOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112498 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 18:55:10 +0000 (UTC) On Oct 21, 2011, at 10:45 PM, william middlemiss wrote: > Why do you 'loop'? I am 58 years old and have been consistently doing it since the early = '80s - I hardly know how to stop - it's an addiction. > What got you started on this path? In the mid '70s a couple of friends took me to the house of another = mutual friend of theirs in a nearby town. This guitar-playing friend of = theirs had rigged up a couple of tape machines on the mantle above the = (unlit) fireplace with a single loop of tape between them. He played = some tasty but rudimentary slide on a Strat-copy guitar into this crude = echo setup hooked to his stereo. I was so entranced by what I heard that = I vowed from that moment on I would figure out a way to do it myself. I = was poor and could not afford gear on my own for a long while yet. = First, every now and then, I'd rent an Echoplex type tape delay from a = local music store. Then, in the early 80's it was a series of = daisy-chained analog stomp-boxes (not terribly satisfactory) and thens a = DigiTech DDL of some sort with something like 4 seconds. A little later = that decade, I got my first pair of Electro Harmonix 16-Second digital = delays (wow). In the early '90s I added the original Lexicon JamMan, and = then a Vortex. In '96 I got a pair of EDPs and kept them and used them = until just last year. Now I am using Matthias Grob's EchoLoop VST plugin = to emulate a pair of EDPs from within my MaxMSP laptop guitar rig. > Was it a mechanism for solo performance? Yes. I've played guitar since I was 10, but until I was about 30 I was = crippled by extreme shyness and performance anxiety. I could not even = imagine playing with other people and being in a band when I was a = youngster. It was easier for me to deal with machinery than to ask = someone to come over and jam - and you could totally forget about any = thought of gigging. I just wasn't there yet. Plus, in my nerdy = musical/social isolation I developed a lot of idiosyncratic ways of = doing things (bad habits, never learning to do it right, or in the = "conventional" manner). In all the years between then ad now I have = overcome my shyness, and a good deal of my performance anxiety (though = not all). I've learned music theory, and have gotten out and about, = played with people, made a record or two - not famous, but what's the = point of that? > to record a vamp? I suppose so, but I have always been a finger-picker, not a strummer. = So, from the beginning, my concept was always contrapuntal, one melody = against another. Of course, I use it like that a lot now, as a repeater = and layerer of all sorts of musical "gestures" - and as a creator of = "ambient" drones, pads, and textures too. Also, to create percussive, = rhythmic patterns. I've always been rhythmically "challenged." I do not = seem able to maintain a steady rhythm on a drum or other percussion = instrument for more than a few bars at a time. Having a looper to = capture and repeat what I AM in fact able to do and then replicate it = and keep it steady is a tremendous help. > A compositional device, a new avenue of expression? (repetition as = compositional device?) Of course, all of the above, guilty as charged.=20 > An 'artistic statement' in itself? as if to say "I DONT NEED NO = STINKIN BAND!" Not at all. At this point I would always much rather play with others = and even not to loop at all if that is required to do so. > A fallback for artistic roadblocks? (as in--an easy way out) Possibly, but like I said, I've been doing it so long it is simply what = I do when left to my own resources. I do not think of myself (now, or in = truth, really ever) as a "looper" as some sub-category of musician. I am = a fully-formed and self-respecting musician (at least part of the time, = when my neuroses will allow). People may give me anxiety, but an "empty = canvas" never has. What to do is not a problem I have. There's a whole = universe of ideas to dip into, providing I am well-rested and gear and I = both re ready to play. > A way of exploring new rhythms? Sure, things even happen by accident, serendipity, that are very = interesting to me. > A textural apparatus? sound design? Dito. > A means of 'warping sound'? Having a big enough "rig" to have processing both before and after the = looper(s) has been important to me for several years now. I do not take = as much advantage of this as some - Jeff Kaiser, Andre LaFosse, Per = Boysen, and the Walker brothers (Rick and Bill) come to mind. But as my = MaxMSP rig grows and expands (and, conveniently, without taking up any = more physical space, thank God) I imagine I will eventually do more with = this in future. The only real drawback with doing it in software on a = laptop (for me) is the fact that I am really a poor programmer, and = being married with family, day job, and a mortgage, I do not have time = to become a better one. So it goes. Hopefully I will live long enough to = retire on "Looper Island" with all my other "older" looping friends and = colleagues here. Maybe then I will have time. > With me, it's been all of the above, and I've jumped among 7 or 8 = devices along the way. The only way to learn is to do . . . and do a lot. As an alternative to = my larger rig I have always maintained a smaller one (of some sort) on = the side - like owning both a BIG 128-COLOR BOX OF CRAYONS and then a = little pocket-sized one to go anywhere. I am never as entirely = comfortable with the little one as I am the big one (for obvious = reasons) so it constantly changes - pedals and devices rotating in and = out all the time. Currently the little rig consists of a WP20G, = Sustainiac Model B, Ernie Ball volume pedal, Line6 M13, Boss DD20, and a = Lexicon Vortex.=20 > How about you? Having fun every chance I get. I plan on getting out to the garage today = for at least a couple of hours. Cheers, Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 20:29:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5EF11183462; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 20:29:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=aGb3MAL3DaV3btMsnftV+AiSE7b6O6vBR7lWfqnvVjw=; b=qCmKeii5jpNKiiV0gpbJhuK9RlLRDgDkOBtk2zeatGgYXK9bUUdgkXaD1GVJARXnRI Y16uSiHA/BQ4jofjEyxBxgXoC8W1P/MZwZEy0ws06MyjvfgA82i6CFe1bMccdLODKsJL h9FbYq8B2PqB/c1zAzbz37R+OFyoHEJ+i4Jlo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 23:29:36 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Shameless self-promotion / New EP From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015176f09c85a450804afe90c43 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112499 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 20:29:37 +0000 (UTC) --0015176f09c85a450804afe90c43 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Raul and Simeon! And it seems that others have gone and played the stuff! thank you's Downloads are looking good too, mixed assortment as this, its always a surprise there's even one.... :-D -Petri- 2011/10/22 Simeon Harris > nice! > > On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:27 AM, Ra=FCl Bonell > wrote: > > gorgeous! very prof sound, Petri. > > favourites: time to go, five times stronger, koan & vocal work in > general. > > > > keep the good work. > > thanx x sharing! > > ra=FCl. > > > > 2011/10/21 Petri Lahtinen > >> > >> http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/album/origami > >> > >> Feel free to delete the post, just informing that I got my new EP read= y. > >> Strange trip to electronic music, which I have never done before... > >> > >> :-D > >> > >> Hugely appreciate if you'd take a listen / download!!!!! > >> > >> Greetings from Finland > >> > >> -- > >> Petri Lahtinen > >> > >> http://www.petrilahtinen.com > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > > .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-..-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-= .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. > > Your moral values are meaningless, artificial constructs. For your > > imagination, > > they provide you a falsely superior position in your social group. > > For the strong, they provide a means by which you are easily manipulate= d. > > In reality, they serve the entertainment needs of others. > > In the Kimatorium, they are irrelevant. > > > > Kim Flint > > .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. > > raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com > > > > > > > > --=20 Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --0015176f09c85a450804afe90c43 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Raul and Simeon!

And it seems that others have gone and playe= d the stuff! thank you's

Downloads are looking good too, mixed a= ssortment as this, its always a surprise there's even one....=A0 :-D
-Petri-

2011/10/22 Simeon Harris <simeonha= rris40@googlemail.com>
nice!

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:27 AM, Ra=FCl Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
> gorgeous! very prof sound, Petri.
> favourites: time to go, five times stronger, koan & vocal work in = general.
>
> keep the good work.
> thanx x sharing!
> ra=FCl.
>
> 2011/10/21 Petri Lahtinen <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com>
>>
>> http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/album/origami
>>
>> Feel free to delete the post, just informing that I got my new EP = ready.
>> Strange trip to electronic music, which I have never done before..= .
>>
>> :-D
>>
>> Hugely appreciate if you'd take a listen / download!!!!!
>>
>> Greetings from Finland
>>
>> --
>> Petri Lahtinen
>>
>> http://= www.petrilahtinen.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-..-.-.-.-.-.-.-.= -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
> Your moral values are meaningless, artificial constructs. For your
> imagination,
> they provide you a falsely superior position in your social group.
> For the strong, they provide a means by which you are easily manipulat= ed.
> In reality, they serve the entertainment needs of others.
> In the Kimatorium, they are irrelevant.
>
> Kim Flint
> .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
> raulbonell.= tumblr.com - collec= tive.com
>
>
>




--
Petri Lahti= nen

http:= //www.petrilahtinen.com

--0015176f09c85a450804afe90c43-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 20:37:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8782A183464; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 20:37:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=z4CpYJ92fZtg188gV1YZant9bM5u1+QQwx/Ajsv7rPc=; b=f57fO6dMCBT7gvv1/gpEk6jxotGMonhsMCaOxYG8oL6sgxZDGRbD7ajgnRTRB4YChZ uWtR2gAK+3ZJaUBi8HjdhBAveM2zJXirPkjClGOoDu/PAUIY5TCrt9n3Pfe4lS5s3Y+D lCyC72mqfj099yCp5C8j3pxiaAgn5XCIEV6eE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3483B400-9E97-4359-BD53-EA2D1F29098D@charter.net> References: <3483B400-9E97-4359-BD53-EA2D1F29098D@charter.net> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 23:37:56 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why...? From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015176f09c82d911204afe92a42 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112500 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 20:37:57 +0000 (UTC) --0015176f09c82d911204afe92a42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm these sad "Robert Fripp and Frippertronics"-guys :-D -Petri Lahtinen- --0015176f09c82d911204afe92a42 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm these sad "Robert Fripp and Frippertronics"-guys

:-D

-Petri Lahtinen-
--0015176f09c82d911204afe92a42-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 21:04:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BFDBE18345E; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 21:04:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3635 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 21:04:18 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-10-22_07:2011-10-21,2011-10-22,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1110220253 Subject: Re: Why...? From: Teddy Kumpel In-reply-to: Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 16:03:41 -0400 Message-id: References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112501 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 21:04:18 +0000 (UTC) On Oct 22, 2011, at 1:45 AM, william middlemiss wrote: > Why do you 'loop'? What got you started on this path? I've been looping since the 80's with a Digitech Delay. I always loved the idea of recording myself and playing along with it. I am, by trade, a guitar player, producer and mixer, so my job is to create layers of sound that compliment each other, that's how I make a living. Looping is just a way for me to do that on the fly. > > Was it a mechanism for solo performance? to record a vamp? I'm not so interested in playing solo, but the ability to setup a few vamps that can be changed overtime at will, or turned on and off is very appealing to me. > > A compositional device, a new avenue of expression? (repetition as compositional device?) the layering is the most interesting thing about looping for me. I like things that repeat and I also like things that take a long time to come back around to the start point, so they seem random > > An 'artistic statement' in itself? as if to say "I DONT NEED NO STINKIN BAND!" no way. I am not a solo artist. All of my looping work has been with a guitar trio. see http://teddyjam.com it's songwriter meets jam band meets jazz rock blues... mainstream folks think it's weird and weird folks think it's mainstream.... go figure > > A fallback for artistic roadblocks? (as in--an easy way out) What's an artistic roadblock and how would a looper fix that? There's nothing easy about looping, it's a whole instrument unto itself. > > A way of exploring new rhythms? no, more a way of enhancing old rhythms and mixing layers > > A textural apparatus? sound design? sure > > A means of 'warping sound'? sure > > With me, it's been all of the above, and I've jumped among 7 or 8 devices along the way. > > How about you? I went through these chronologically Digitech blue delay Jamman Line 6 DL4 EHX 16 second delay Boss RC-50, which is by far the best machine in it's ability to send a click track to my drummer which allows me to loop without being the time keeper, an essential part of making the music REALLY groove, if you ask me. Anytime the gtr is the timekeeper of the band the drummer tends to lag behind it and make it feel like the gtr is rushing, which is the opposite of my playing style. So this has been an excellent solution. thanks for asking Teddy K From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 21:17:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1293183463; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 21:17:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4EA332FC.2050806@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 14:17:48 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ejyuhas CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: EHX FREEZE MOD References: <54.CB.19719.B83E2AE4@smtp04.embarq.synacor.com> In-Reply-To: <54.CB.19719.B83E2AE4@smtp04.embarq.synacor.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010103030200010403090104" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112502 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 21:17:57 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010103030200010403090104 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, ejyuhas wrote: > 2 EHX Freeze pedals, one modified w/ SEND-RETURN. Fun!!!! oooh, oooh, ooooh, tell me about your EHX Freeze mod. I'm loving using mine. rick walker --------------010103030200010403090104 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, ejyuhas wrote:
2 EHX Freeze pedals, one modified w/ SEND-RETURN. Fun!!!!
oooh, oooh, ooooh,    tell me about your EHX Freeze mod.
I'm loving using mine.

rick walker
--------------010103030200010403090104-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 21:21:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC73B183463; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 21:21:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4EA333B9.1010300@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 14:20:57 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Per Boysen CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, CPR aka Chris Roberts Subject: Re: Re: URGENT GLITCH! Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070606090708000001070500" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112503 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 21:21:05 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070606090708000001070500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Try Chris Robert's web archive instead: > http://www.musetrap.com/y2kx1/ I just tried to download some of these files and it says I do not have permission. Anyone know how to circumvent this? rick walker --------------070606090708000001070500 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote:
Try Chris Robert's web archive instead:
http://www.musetrap.com/y2kx1/
I just tried to download some of these files and it says I do not have permission.

Anyone know how to circumvent this?

rick walker
--------------070606090708000001070500-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 22:02:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A71E3183465; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 22:02:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=QpzPLVHpkhgIJ3HbMiwCNaYK28GtI/4FSw4/L5BcCss=; b=rcutz36764fXDc0sfg6utY3BBtONkA72KVXE7J4BUZnMBhuPODkpgvZCgt5Q1SHqKV TkTllBZ8VyiOabH5zjwa4yLdSE9bIXySFi3mgprenwMcZKQ9rgP+6UwN0BSBDzM/433N 1D/1gyQTBJLsIJT7x9D1c0bFs/65kr0Tubc6o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4EA333B9.1010300@cruzio.com> References: <4EA333B9.1010300@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 00:02:37 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: URGENT GLITCH! Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ra=FCl_Bonell?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec520ecc301544104afea59d2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112504 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 22:02:39 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec520ecc301544104afea59d2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i don't understand this mess, sincerely. where's the problem to post the db public links here? 2011/10/22 Rick Walker > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > > Try Chris Robert's web archive instead:http://www.musetrap.com/y2kx1/ > > I just tried to download some of these files and it says I do not have > permission. > > Anyone know how to circumvent this? > > rick walker > -- .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-..-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Your moral values are meaningless, artificial constructs. For your imagination, they provide you a falsely superior position in your social group. For the strong, they provide a means by which you are easily manipulated. In reality, they serve the entertainment needs of others. In the Kimatorium, they are irrelevant. Kim Flint .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com --bcaec520ecc301544104afea59d2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i don't understand this mess, sincerely. where's the problem to pos= t the db public links here?

2011/10/22 R= ick Walker <loo= ppool@cruzio.com>
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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote:
Try Chris Robert's web archive instead:
http://www.mus=
etrap.com/y2kx1/
I just tried to download some of these files an= d it says I do not have permission.

Anyone know how to circumvent this?

rick walker



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Your moral values are meaningless, artificial constructs. For your imagination,
they provide you a falsely superior position in your social group.

For the strong, they provide a means by which you are e= asily manipulated.

In reality, they serve the en= tertainment needs of others.

In the Kimatorium, they are irrelevant.


Kim= Flint

.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.raulbonell.tumb= lr.com - collective= .com


--bcaec520ecc301544104afea59d2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 22 22:29:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28571183464; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 22:29:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jmaBkaTEQWzJPngGnWaZwkg/Ck0sU5SLonPf5hXCRIo=; b=SZs8oDRK5eVrNPsajfvvwwBvZ2P8F6Zc8gftxpUNWZTlEmZJOpfjMpJKMa8FPrb1/W 76RFp0Kh5rQUiX0BUVSqC2Dh6L69SySGoVkm0P0uQjoEtV99G2Ybv3iVUCoOojS1QS0y 4OlPsNi6UaT+bfiwu9Fg2DDTGM3VTQZotO09E= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4EA333B9.1010300@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 00:29:33 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: URGENT GLITCH! Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112505 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 22:29:34 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 12:02 AM, Ra=C3=BCl Bonell = wrote: > i don't understand this mess, sincerely. where's the problem to post the = db > public links here? To answer the question: The problem has nothing to do with sharing the link here. It is that the DB Public folder can not be shared. Only files can be shared. And just one file at a time. And only with one person at a time. And by email. The Looper's Delight Facebook group has 278 members so multiplying that number with the number of files to be shared indicates this to be a quite heavy task! It seems DB is designed for one-to-one collaboration only. However I have used it a lot in the past to put up an mp3 file in the Public folder and link to that file on a forum. That works, so theoretically it should be possible to copy and paste the (more than hundred) file links of the DB Public folder and make a list to post to LD mailing list. This too is quite a lot more work than I can schedule time for. A dedicated folder, on the other hand, can be shared. That's why I made the Y2K folder. This way I only needed to send one email to each person to offer them access to the shared folder. But unfortunately it seems that many people delete files instead of copying them to their local drive. So the material available for download is shrinking over time. Chris Robert's FTP server is a better strategy. Everything is now uploaded there: http://www.musetrap.com/y2kx1/ Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 23 02:24:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1AF4183462; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 02:24:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Ow4+3WNcrbTehfwVUFzAEQ)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-10-22_08:2011-10-21,2011-10-22,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=4 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1110220375 From: Teddy Kumpel Subject: Re: EHX FREEZE MOD Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 22:24:40 -0400 In-reply-to: <4EA332FC.2050806@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <54.CB.19719.B83E2AE4@smtp04.embarq.synacor.com> <4EA332FC.2050806@cruzio.com> Message-id: <28BFA0B5-01D3-4DA9-9DCC-BD1B06355FFA@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112506 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 02:24:43 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_Ow4+3WNcrbTehfwVUFzAEQ) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On Oct 22, 2011, at 5:17 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, ejyuhas wrote: >> >> 2 EHX Freeze pedals, one modified w/ SEND-RETURN. Fun!!!! > oooh, oooh, ooooh, tell me about your EHX Freeze mod. > I'm loving using mine > > rick walker YES pleeeeease tell us... I love mine too and would love to hear how you did the mod Teddy K --Boundary_(ID_Ow4+3WNcrbTehfwVUFzAEQ) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
On Oct 22, 2011, at 5:17 PM, Rick Walker wrote:

On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, ejyuhas wrote:
2 EHX Freeze pedals, one modified w/ SEND-RETURN. Fun!!!!
oooh, oooh, ooooh,    tell me about your EHX Freeze mod.
I'm loving using mine

rick walker

YES pleeeeease tell us... I love mine too and would love to hear how you did the mod

Teddy K
--Boundary_(ID_Ow4+3WNcrbTehfwVUFzAEQ)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 23 02:38:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36106183464; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 02:38:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20111022195653.msz956nhck4kowoo@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 19:56:53 -0500 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Per Boysen Subject: Re: URGENT GLITCH! Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 References: <9E97177E-4F6D-45A4-ACA5-A37CD85914D6@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112507 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 02:38:03 +0000 (UTC) hey per,etc.. I am on a, break from class, but I just went and forced =20 the correct permissions for all of you files, so there shouldn't be =20 any more 'read permission' errors. I don't know if the 'bad url' =20 problem was solved, but I'll see what I can discern from here (i'm =20 doing this all from my phone, so things like telnet are more time =20 consuming, as typing linux commands on this virtual keyboard isn't the =20 easiest.. ) -cpr Quoting Per Boysen : > On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 7:54 PM, RP Collier wrote= : >> I am getting a 'url not valid' alert for most of the .movs in the Oct 16 = sc >> directory. >> They will not download or stream. > > Sorry, Bob. I have no idea why that is. I tried to download an jpg > picture file and it worked fine. While I'm typing this only one file > is still not completely uploaded ("P1010360_pboy_stereo.MOV"). The > rest says "upload completed" here in my FTP client. Chris said he > would take a look on the server and maybe he will find out something, > but from here on a distance I can't troubleshoot effectively. > > Also, the folder "Oct 16 sc" also contains videos from Oct 15's > festival. I just dumped both day's filming into the same folder. Will > change the folder name accordingly as soon as the last file has > uploaded (can't change file name while still uploading or the files > will get lost in space) > > Per > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 23 02:46:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B7B87183466; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 02:46:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20111022200514.2a9inyz00okogkok@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 20:05:14 -0500 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, RP Collier Subject: Re: URGENT GLITCH! Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 References: <9E97177E-4F6D-45A4-ACA5-A37CD85914D6@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112508 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 02:46:22 +0000 (UTC) I just took a quick peak, and some of the files have spaces in the names.. I don't know if that is thee problem, but I've done all I can until i'm in front of a real computer.. :) Quoting RP Collier : > > On Oct 22, 2011, at 7:33 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> everyone can download as much as one likes by the usual web browser >> technique > > HI > > I am getting a 'url not valid' alert for most of the .movs in the Oct > 16 sc directory. > They will not download or stream. > > BobC From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 23 03:45:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B8BC183462; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 03:45:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <55F7DEEA-DDB0-421B-BC3A-71946155D612@sea.plala.or.jp> From: Ed Durbrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--415588222 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Why...? Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 12:45:11 +0900 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-VirusScan: Outbound; msa01b; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 12:45:11 +0900 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112509 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 03:45:16 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--415588222 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Oct 22, 2011, at 2:45 PM, william middlemiss wrote: > Why do you 'loop'? What got you started on this path? Originally I wanted to play lute duets while busking. I bought an RC-2 but found it difficult to operate and put it on the shelf for a year and a half. Then I had problems with my hands and thought looping would be a way of continuing to make music with minimal strain. I still can't get very far with the RC-2 and have bought an FCB1010 and installed Mobius. No luck getting those to work yet either. So I guess you could say I haven't really started yet. > Was it a mechanism for solo performance? Yes. Currently, I would only play publicly for a very 'special' audience. I definitely could not use looping for a paying gig. All I can do is overdub stuff. > A fallback for artistic roadblocks? (as in--an easy way out) Easy? Looping seems a lot more difficult than playing alone or with other musicians. Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ --Apple-Mail-4--415588222 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Oct 22, 2011, = at 2:45 PM, william middlemiss wrote:

Why do you = 'loop'? What got you started on this = path?

Originally I wanted to play lute = duets while busking. I bought an RC-2 but found it difficult to operate = and put it on the shelf for a year and a half. Then I had problems with = my hands and thought looping would be a way of continuing to make music = with minimal strain. I still can't get very far with the RC-2 and have = bought an FCB1010 and installed Mobius. No luck getting those to work = yet either. So I guess you could say I haven't really started = yet.

Was it a mechanism for solo = performance?

Yes. Currently, I = would only play publicly for a very 'special' audience. I definitely = could not use looping for a paying gig. All I can do is overdub = stuff.

A fallback for = artistic roadblocks? (as in--an easy way = out)

Easy? Looping = seems a lot more difficult than playing alone or with other = musicians.


= --Apple-Mail-4--415588222-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 23 03:55:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6539E18345E; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 03:55:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=UyT9n9TMPiYigi1hERiT/14pnDF/0pS6p6/r1lUOhdo=; b=EIvA3LL4fLtx3qfk35DD+YtjAEBAJeFZrFPmPLLsiXjoZBxoU8JfWVdG/3HYEbkFpa W/qj0Mk/Wwai7MKjqrRWwVg28f1MuZodMgTAY7mpe1YPfJFYBhXDXLaPGgEhaSWpuOmp wE5rON5tlLIiMW6+0cJUOOSbtcB9tc3o33608= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20111022200514.2a9inyz00okogkok@webmail.musetrap.com> References: <9E97177E-4F6D-45A4-ACA5-A37CD85914D6@gmail.com> <20111022200514.2a9inyz00okogkok@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 05:55:05 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: URGENT GLITCH! Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112510 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 03:55:06 +0000 (UTC) I never type spaces in file names, so I immediately checked out the server and my gosh you are right! Three videos with "ANDREA CENTAZZO" and one with Mat Trumbull had spaces. I fixed that via FTP. Another file had been duplicated with its file name extended with a date and time phrase, no idea what caused that - but I deleted the copy with the longer erroneous file name. Hope this works out well from now. It's 5:45 AM here now. I just realized I won't go to sleep so I stepped up from bed and booted the computer to have a look at the world. Then it hit me that I forgot to eat yesterday - that plus the Californian time zone hangover... trying to fight insomnia with a pile of toast and a bowl of tea on the side. Hopefully that will make me tired and in-for-sleep, if so I will miss the few sun hours even this upcoming day... not a big deal though. The sum of working hours will be the same anyway. Per On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 3:05 AM, wrote: > I just took a quick peak, and some of the files have spaces in the names.. I > don't know if that is thee problem, but I've done all I can until i'm in > front of a real computer.. :) > > Quoting RP Collier : > >> >> On Oct 22, 2011, at 7:33 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >>> everyone can download as much as one likes by the usual web browser >>> technique >> >> HI >> >> I am getting a 'url not valid' alert for most of the .movs in the Oct >> 16 sc directory. >> They will not download or stream. >> >> BobC > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 23 04:50:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 051A1183463; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 04:49:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: To: References: <4750816114930039242@unknownmsgid> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Looper Archive parsing Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 23:49:52 -0500 Message-ID: <000901cc913f$35809c50$a081d4f0$@michaelplishka.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01CC9115.4CAA9450" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AQFSxWofH5Cr31u6OlxedmXZKOxyHwItKcnnlmuKCBA= X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112511 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 04:49:59 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01CC9115.4CAA9450 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yup, it's an LD archive thing. (and I do have a gmail account just not for this ;-)) From: Michael Peters [mailto:mp@mpeters.de] Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 6:59 AM To: 'mark francombe'; Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Looper Archive parsing I think Mike inquired about the handling of the LD archive, not about the mailinglist -mpe ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01CC9115.4CAA9450 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yup, it's an LD archive thing.

(and I do have  a gmail account just not for this = ;-))

 

 

 

From:= = Michael Peters [mailto:mp@mpeters.de]
Sent: Saturday, October = 22, 2011 6:59 AM
To: 'mark francombe'; = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: Looper = Archive parsing

 

I think Mike = inquired about the handling of the LD archive, not about the = mailinglist   -mpe

------=_NextPart_000_000A_01CC9115.4CAA9450-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 23 08:16:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CB88183464; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 08:16:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 08:16:57 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Why...? From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <1B6199507BA14C789075D4FED588E8D0@your0548c161e1> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 01:10:14 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <1B6199507BA14C789075D4FED588E8D0@your0548c161e1> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112512 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 08:16:58 +0000 (UTC) On Oct 22, 2011, at 12:05 AM, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote: > We just did this six weeks ago . . . > I was trying to get chicks- Did it work? Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 23 09:33:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65350183465; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 09:33:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=bBJDbTcsQ5L5wzgaDPL4bysycIupJpQI4q1IUfFKOXw=; b=CbGMHd2Zz8jeb9dIJLlf6CrQ0CoMM1RB6MoRMYaFF/uja++T6MrLBznY0tNr/SUy/Y c74u1ZhczmkphVSRMTkW5AtOo5yaNaxHy0TW0JhqMUGzSHcBqc9n/5BehKXwNhpjZt4v oa0uIo8En6DwsAM/M+0QQ1xNg1Xp2xfCSySo8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <9E97177E-4F6D-45A4-ACA5-A37CD85914D6@gmail.com> <20111022200514.2a9inyz00okogkok@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 12:33:43 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: URGENT GLITCH! Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151773e0e49de59304aff4003c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112513 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 09:33:45 +0000 (UTC) --00151773e0e49de59304aff4003c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Per! sorry for the off-list mail, I read the whole on this thread afterwards :-) So you can forget my plea! Try to hang on there, our jet-lagged traveler! :-) -Petri- 2011/10/23 Per Boysen > I never type spaces in file names, so I immediately checked out the > server and my gosh you are right! Three videos with "ANDREA CENTAZZO" > and one with Mat Trumbull had spaces. I fixed that via FTP. Another > file had been duplicated with its file name extended with a date and > time phrase, no idea what caused that - but I deleted the copy with > the longer erroneous file name. Hope this works out well from now. > > It's 5:45 AM here now. I just realized I won't go to sleep so I > stepped up from bed and booted the computer to have a look at the > world. Then it hit me that I forgot to eat yesterday - that plus the > Californian time zone hangover... trying to fight insomnia with a pile > of toast and a bowl of tea on the side. Hopefully that will make me > tired and in-for-sleep, if so I will miss the few sun hours even this > upcoming day... not a big deal though. The sum of working hours will > be the same anyway. > > Per > > > > On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 3:05 AM, wrote: > > I just took a quick peak, and some of the files have spaces in the > names.. I > > don't know if that is thee problem, but I've done all I can until i'm in > > front of a real computer.. :) > > > > Quoting RP Collier : > > > >> > >> On Oct 22, 2011, at 7:33 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> > >>> everyone can download as much as one likes by the usual web browser > >>> technique > >> > >> HI > >> > >> I am getting a 'url not valid' alert for most of the .movs in the Oct > >> 16 sc directory. > >> They will not download or stream. > >> > >> BobC > > > > > > > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --00151773e0e49de59304aff4003c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Per!

sorry for the off-list mail, I read the whole on this thread= afterwards :-)
So you can forget my plea!

Try to hang on there, = our jet-lagged traveler!

:-)

-Petri-

2011/10/23 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
I never type spaces in file names, =A0so I immediately checked out the server and my gosh you are right! Three videos with "ANDREA CENTAZZO&q= uot;
and one with Mat Trumbull had spaces. I fixed that via FTP. Another
file had been duplicated with its file name extended with a date and
time phrase, no idea what caused that - but I deleted the copy with
the longer erroneous file name. Hope this works out well from now.

It's 5:45 AM here now. I just realized I won't go to sleep so I
stepped up from bed and booted the computer to have a look at the
world. Then it hit me that I forgot to eat yesterday - that plus the
Californian time zone hangover... trying to fight insomnia with a pile
of toast and a bowl of tea on the side. Hopefully that will make me
tired and in-for-sleep, if so I will miss the few sun hours even this
upcoming day... not a big deal though. The sum of working hours will
be the same anyway.

Per



On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 3:05 AM, =A0<cpr@musetrap.com> wrote:
> I just took a quick peak, and some of the files have spaces in the nam= es.. I
> don't know if that is thee problem, but I've done all I can un= til i'm in
> front of a real computer.. :)
>
> Quoting RP Collier <skept= ikalist@gmail.com>:
>
>>
>> On Oct 22, 2011, at 7:33 AM, Per Boysen wrote:
>>
>>> everyone can download as much as one likes by the usual web br= owser
>>> technique
>>
>> HI
>>
>> I am getting a 'url not valid' alert for most of the .movs= in the Oct
>> 16 sc directory.
>> They will not download or stream.
>>
>> BobC
>
>
>




--
Petri Lahti= nen

http:= //www.petrilahtinen.com

--00151773e0e49de59304aff4003c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 23 10:02:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6F86183473; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 10:02:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=sWgCHCvWmkZdB862L2mcXfPx0HEVnI4dzYJiePmqf/s=; b=h0b0FueMW+HMqwlZZCzu0mAOv6oCfwYlRfq/V3VjY+dUsz4x1dUOg6yeXKQHRCPgli VKlTLhShAKpjdtCDnJ+xQZ+pUyqgO+72ckAy5i6Jy72ddCwihVJ4cHEtTP+5eYeybCZx IxkvciK94f0wc97dpS7k39iwdND94Gj6qNK7Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <000901cc913f$35809c50$a081d4f0$@michaelplishka.com> References: <4750816114930039242@unknownmsgid> <000901cc913f$35809c50$a081d4f0$@michaelplishka.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 12:01:55 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: vpRFEKQdiCJ1EblcVW8qUjdBjaw Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looper Archive parsing To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf303f6bca9a1e7304aff4664a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112514 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 10:02:16 +0000 (UTC) --20cf303f6bca9a1e7304aff4664a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ok sorry I misunderstood. Actually the LD archives have not worked for me at all for a while, alwasy getting no results. There was a nifty, but rather specific, search criteria in good old google that once put all the messages in a google search return, but I guess thats basically the same as clicking every message, except now has this side pane preview thing, makes searching for info 100 times faster, wonder if it works for LS; I guess you need to know the subject.. and sort by date or something? (I just tried and I cant find the right way to format the query..) M On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 6:49 AM, wrote: > Yup, it's an LD archive thing.**** > > (and I do have a gmail account just not for this ;-))**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* Michael Peters [mailto:mp@mpeters.de] > *Sent:* Saturday, October 22, 2011 6:59 AM > *To:* 'mark francombe'; Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Subject:* RE: Looper Archive parsing**** > > ** ** > > I think Mike inquired about the handling of the LD archive, not about the > mailinglist -mpe**** > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --20cf303f6bca9a1e7304aff4664a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ok sorry I misunderstood.
Actually the LD archives have not worked for m= e at all for a while, alwasy getting no results. There was a nifty, but rat= her specific, search criteria in good old google=A0 that once put all the m= essages in a google search return, but I guess thats basically the same as = clicking every message, except now has this side pane preview thing, makes = searching for info 100 times faster, wonder if it works for LS; I guess you= need to know the subject.. and sort by date or something?

(I just tried and I cant find the right way to format the query..)
M=

On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 6:49 AM, <mike@michaelplis= hka.com> wrote:

Yup, it's an LD archive thing.=

(and = I do have=A0 a gmail account just not for this ;-))

<= /u>=A0

=A0

=A0

From:= Michael Peters [mailto:mp@mpeters.de]
Sent: Saturd= ay, October 22, 2011 6:59 AM
To: 'mark francombe'; Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<= br>Subject: RE: Looper Archive parsing

=A0

I think Mike inquired abou= t the handling of the LD archive, not about the mailinglist=A0=A0 -mpe




--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
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--20cf303f6bca9a1e7304aff4664a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 23 10:13:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD26A183465; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 10:13:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9vipQy8z5imxSvMSkckykwxozNKSdrdcBE9zM+yLFsY=; b=i0oEqFzcHpXw1JVcNdF0cPmKAAvawzq3nkmbdnY23UgX8t+gvZwHKoJV1t9m1+zVF5 gSMClveZaI4EXa16x/lm4iezIYYq/NDOZwDiz8jUA0f/inOpNUyeXxBMpTFBudANVnaR /hkVK0X5NqrLr5rtDlugIh9eLQN/rx5DAhOpE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <4750816114930039242@unknownmsgid> <000901cc913f$35809c50$a081d4f0$@michaelplishka.com> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 11:13:55 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looper Archive parsing From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112515 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 10:13:56 +0000 (UTC) you can use the advanced search in google to limit by domain and date (up to a year in the past) http://www.google.co.uk/advanced_search?q=3Drc50+site:http://www.loopers-de= light.com&hl=3Den&biw=3D1432&bih=3D735&prmd=3Dimvns sim On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:01 AM, mark francombe w= rote: > ok sorry I misunderstood. > Actually the LD archives have not worked for me at all for a while, alwas= y > getting no results. There was a nifty, but rather specific, search criter= ia > in good old google=A0 that once put all the messages in a google search > return, but I guess thats basically the same as clicking every message, > except now has this side pane preview thing, makes searching for info 100 > times faster, wonder if it works for LS; I guess you need to know the > subject.. and sort by date or something? > > (I just tried and I cant find the right way to format the query..) > M > > On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 6:49 AM, wrote: >> >> Yup, it's an LD archive thing. >> >> (and I do have=A0 a gmail account just not for this ;-)) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Michael Peters [mailto:mp@mpeters.de] >> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 6:59 AM >> To: 'mark francombe'; Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: RE: Looper Archive parsing >> >> >> >> I think Mike inquired about the handling of the LD archive, not about th= e >> mailinglist=A0=A0 -mpe > > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 23 10:16:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1002118345E; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 10:16:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6p0gyPZYl7Ua6nYIg7bqvpLAEmldHQxl2FWPeh2eWyI=; b=xqxPAGG3eOcTDuskREE3kjg/plmfo/vC+MZcV7IKjGvTVC6Lzs4orxGRF/4QxzADfk cIV9lV4/YlGWKz1b79ZRu7F2PUMDuM6Qq3rixL1tn1r2oiOOzzW8UC6qG+X7AH5A6PdG OaHpOrd06jYOX8Z+tbFErA8bvaSWYDtPb8ZUk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <4750816114930039242@unknownmsgid> <000901cc913f$35809c50$a081d4f0$@michaelplishka.com> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 11:16:03 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looper Archive parsing From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112516 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 10:16:04 +0000 (UTC) that link didn't work right in the domain, you can put http://www.loopers-delight.com/ldarchive and then click on more at the bottom to get the date dropdown or just type into google something like this RC-50 site:http://www.loopers-delight.com/ldarchive On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > you can use the advanced search in google to limit by domain and date > (up to a year in the past) > > http://www.google.co.uk/advanced_search?q=3Drc50+site:http://www.loopers-= delight.com&hl=3Den&biw=3D1432&bih=3D735&prmd=3Dimvns > > sim > > > > On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:01 AM, mark francombe = wrote: >> ok sorry I misunderstood. >> Actually the LD archives have not worked for me at all for a while, alwa= sy >> getting no results. There was a nifty, but rather specific, search crite= ria >> in good old google=A0 that once put all the messages in a google search >> return, but I guess thats basically the same as clicking every message, >> except now has this side pane preview thing, makes searching for info 10= 0 >> times faster, wonder if it works for LS; I guess you need to know the >> subject.. and sort by date or something? >> >> (I just tried and I cant find the right way to format the query..) >> M >> >> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 6:49 AM, wrote: >>> >>> Yup, it's an LD archive thing. >>> >>> (and I do have=A0 a gmail account just not for this ;-)) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Michael Peters [mailto:mp@mpeters.de] >>> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 6:59 AM >>> To: 'mark francombe'; Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> Subject: RE: Looper Archive parsing >>> >>> >>> >>> I think Mike inquired about the handling of the LD archive, not about t= he >>> mailinglist=A0=A0 -mpe >> >> >> -- >> Mark Francombe >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no >> twitter @markfrancombe >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 23 10:18:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D5DA183462; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 10:18:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1rPWoRcSeGQ+X39Jjv8idN2p3rPeHZi23vOta43Zu0Y=; b=YrXUkdlNbuzGXZ7mAD9Pua9pIw8Z9G4PyX9XckmWunVmWwN12nyFW9+ih0Cp68HJ8S kEmK+q5yoFo7hERW/8SRO7poJKWZ75BWx2tjcy2GWDBD2DMk3GRcVbL///AqXPsEY/zs aBCDvT06Bm5v0QiYWbCUHghrygLufGgwdlW+Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <4750816114930039242@unknownmsgid> <000901cc913f$35809c50$a081d4f0$@michaelplishka.com> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 11:18:04 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looper Archive parsing From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112517 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 10:18:06 +0000 (UTC) ahh - i just found once you get some search results in google, you can set a date range - just click on "more tools" on the left On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > that link didn't work right > > in the domain, you can put http://www.loopers-delight.com/ldarchive > > and then click on more at the bottom to get the date dropdown > > or just type into google something like this > > RC-50 site:http://www.loopers-delight.com/ldarchive > > On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Simeon Harris > wrote: >> you can use the advanced search in google to limit by domain and date >> (up to a year in the past) >> >> http://www.google.co.uk/advanced_search?q=3Drc50+site:http://www.loopers= -delight.com&hl=3Den&biw=3D1432&bih=3D735&prmd=3Dimvns >> >> sim >> >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:01 AM, mark francombe wrote: >>> ok sorry I misunderstood. >>> Actually the LD archives have not worked for me at all for a while, alw= asy >>> getting no results. There was a nifty, but rather specific, search crit= eria >>> in good old google=A0 that once put all the messages in a google search >>> return, but I guess thats basically the same as clicking every message, >>> except now has this side pane preview thing, makes searching for info 1= 00 >>> times faster, wonder if it works for LS; I guess you need to know the >>> subject.. and sort by date or something? >>> >>> (I just tried and I cant find the right way to format the query..) >>> M >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 6:49 AM, wrote: >>>> >>>> Yup, it's an LD archive thing. >>>> >>>> (and I do have=A0 a gmail account just not for this ;-)) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Michael Peters [mailto:mp@mpeters.de] >>>> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 6:59 AM >>>> To: 'mark francombe'; Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>>> Subject: RE: Looper Archive parsing >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I think Mike inquired about the handling of the LD archive, not about = the >>>> mailinglist=A0=A0 -mpe >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mark Francombe >>> www.markfrancombe.com >>> www.ordoabkhao.com >>> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >>> http://www.looop.no >>> twitter @markfrancombe >>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ >>> >>> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 23 10:41:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1F76183463; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 10:41:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4EA3EF5B.9020806@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 03:41:31 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Per Boysen CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: URGENT GLITCH! Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112518 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 10:41:40 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Then it hit me that I forgot to eat yesterday - I'm so glad that someone else does something this silly when they are 'in the zone' of work and creativity. I don't recommend it, but I've had many a day where 12 hours into it I think......."shit, I never ate, did I?" lol. rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 23 11:52:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F2FD6183463; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 11:52:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 11:52:50 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kevinkissinger.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=Oe8jLRspiCStd53FR30XidbVe5DrPJDTEKokOEXLfHg=; b=M38MtZlGo/gtveyjrYwLx+j2UfDb8QKzpMlhziBBAENaRkvts4j0ZCJUW7otS2jiTnLRAATnIVigJNIjo5S9jBeBjt3bj8J/GngxGFTtmduOtrFi5YxGQrrY83+GL+DB; Message-ID: <20111023064608.93686w6s4k66orcw@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 06:46:08 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Why...? References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3.9) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112519 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 11:52:50 +0000 (UTC) Quoting william middlemiss : > Why do you 'loop'? What got you started on this path? > > A compositional device, a new avenue of expression? (repetition as > compositional device?) > I use it to create pattern-based compositions. I also use it with my modular synthesizer to: . create pads, vamps, etc . as an extension of sequencers and other pattern-creating functions I've never been successful to make artistic statements, though. I just create music. And, looping, for me, is not a statement about ensembles -- I simply view looping as another medium. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 23 12:14:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93E53183462; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 12:14:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 682355400/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.16.138/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.16.138 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AksCAKDXoU5YbRCK/2dsb2JhbAAMN5ojkW8BAQEEOFELISUPAkYcAbt3iEAEmRqMQg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,393,1315177200"; d="scan'208";a="682355400" Message-ID: <4EA4052F.30903@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 13:14:39 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looper Archive parsing References: <4750816114930039242@unknownmsgid> <000901cc913f$35809c50$a081d4f0$@michaelplishka.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <37Sd7.A.0KD.rUApOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112520 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 12:14:35 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: > (I just tried and I cant find the right way to format the query..) old LD search was to put semi colon between the terms for AND. don't know if that works on the LD front page search andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 23 12:58:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42DCF183464; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 12:58:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 34501.52644.bm@omp1029.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1319374737; bh=XPY14X/jSMsxo1hjF9kk9RrZqC2WvYzlEub12PNFeqw=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Q4oULyLPjxfCTQtUWt2nZEpf2MEa+6AS7rpSPUGqchLT+uhgZmAaCQ60lLE4qRqCtfQ9NFdhZPAKWe79Xlx1Lc8RXELC31LHfgQFldelOZ+1VL/w7Bll5jwWNwt3piaRkwEmwl68DasF0v6/OM//EwPfdRhTVc6q0fWcCn/NYng= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YVaGDGjpRRxN+jDrZ3miHR8R4HIZEhyy26o6HJVF0B4WtArM8xwvbYa1YUpgLodjYtET4Ny68Uv1Juj46Q3NZ5ZWhzNv9N4ol7JckPIy1P8naO/56muOmd1iQc9SMp9Ma4gj/kmSeW0bHpK4JYbQGnkzihvimrSEZU8tKvygnPI=; X-YMail-OSG: MmEGmsAVM1miJ0NyoDnXm9PCkH24rwFysKSTsmHcj6gE0uz 6BaHUO61eRNb60Sk5KX8HdCNq4YwKgpzZAFoFod44qSiDQkQNJEuXcCSPWij Yc9_mYeHYY0gTlT60tI.T0NRNtDuW.D7MO6GUIygKn0KdwY_6lGqETtApfGd Pw60mt9_ZX8_QJXE9GT.O7lB8BNqCPSAST1qefbnOVeTTD81ZxuUiz4BP1Cj PuSxLT4H3n3MNNvewNHjooRjDMOlKmHUUmgy_PvDefSyHZn.8OIWLX4WvhX8 gpbefRCtfcopeK7sPwyF4K2tLdEqWj7kj6oAuAEh6O8vvxP_sHSYc8Sbm2MH rWz8LxY7wp_lESOUzR9QJV1zVgSTktcS1IUbnFBeNr8vCcMCC.0jKkP6tRNp GAbBNnE78y3PuatV0YaF7CzPlGJW3UGj66oJPSpXx0UwWlz5z1Xl.lyLkBPd v8_Ly3j3aoR_7Bmylrwdvx1hIyFng.pYUc_9tKA7Bn4_cilJ9FX56yf9OxD3 mF0YsNMV4pScSlwSGTb8Vj4dKCCMH5w-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.114.317681 References: Message-ID: <1319374737.67883.YahooMailNeo@web120714.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 05:58:57 -0700 (PDT) From: tim echols Reply-To: tim echols Subject: Re: Why...? To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="1827137848-1163063293-1319374737=:67883" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112521 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 12:58:59 +0000 (UTC) --1827137848-1163063293-1319374737=:67883 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i moved from a place that i was playing out at least 3 nights a week to yel= lowstone national park.=A0 after the summer, i moved to west yellowstone at= the west gate.=A0 i have been here for 5 years.=A0 a couple of years into = it, i bought a looper because of the dearth of players in town, and venues.= =A0 it just isn't the same, but i enjoy it.=A0 i don't play out, though--= =A0 i only experiment.=A0 i have written some things with it, but mostly i = like to see if i can recreate easily loopable songs, with minimal sections = (nothing compares to you, by prince, has no chorus--=A0 only the tag line).= =A0 the hardest thing is directing all the right instruments to the right c= hannel for looping--=A0 i have my guitar set up on an m-brace, bass strappe= d on, and keyboards before me.=A0 if i could get my m-audio trigger finger = to work correctly, i would get a rhythm together on the pads.=A0 that would= help me play out, as well, because i could set up an audio loop for timeke= eping instead of a blinking light.=A0 i have both an EDP and an RC-20.=A0 i like= both, but wish they could be synched.=A0 i can develop ambient drones on t= he RC-20 and then play over it with the EDP, just nothing rhythmic.=A0 i pl= an on getting a bit better at the EDP in the interim season before i start = work this winter.=A0 =0A=A0=0Anone of this is looping, but here i am:=0Ahtt= p://soundcloud.com/tsunamidaily=0A=A0=0Ai know i am too eclectic to actuall= y attract too much attention.=A0 but that doesn't bother me--=A0 the loopin= g is just one more part of that.=A0 hope everyone is well, and i do invite = you to check the link out if you have time/interest.=A0 =0A=A0=0Athanks!=0A= =A0=0Atime=0A=A0 =0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: william = middlemiss =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deligh= t.com=0ASent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:45 PM=0ASubject: Why...?=0A=0A=0A= Why do you 'loop'? What got you started on this path? =0A=0AWas it a mechan= ism for solo performance? to record a vamp?=0A=0AA compositional device, a = new avenue of expression? (repetition as compositional device?)=0A=0AAn 'ar= tistic statement' in itself? as if to say "I DONT NEED NO STINKIN BAND!"=0A= =0AA fallback for artistic roadblocks? (as in--an easy way out)=0A=0AA way = of exploring new rhythms?=0A=0AA textural apparatus? sound design?=0A=0AA m= eans of 'warping sound'?=0A=0AWith me, it's been all of the above, and I've= jumped among 7 or 8 devices along the way.=0A=0AHow about you? --1827137848-1163063293-1319374737=:67883 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
i moved from a place that i was playing o= ut at least 3 nights a week to yellowstone national park.  after the s= ummer, i moved to west yellowstone at the west gate.  i have been here= for 5 years.  a couple of years into it, i bought a looper because of= the dearth of players in town, and venues.  it just isn't the same, b= ut i enjoy it.  i don't play out, though--  i only experiment.&nb= sp; i have written some things with it, but mostly i like to see if i can r= ecreate easily loopable songs, with minimal sections (nothing compares to y= ou, by prince, has no chorus--  only the tag line).  the hardest = thing is directing all the right instruments to the right channel for loopi= ng--  i have my guitar set up on an m-brace, bass strapped on, and keyboards before me.  if i could get my m-audio trigger finger to wor= k correctly, i would get a rhythm together on the pads.  that would he= lp me play out, as well, because i could set up an audio loop for timekeepi= ng instead of a blinking light.  i have both an EDP and an RC-20. = ; i like both, but wish they could be synched.  i can develop ambient = drones on the RC-20 and then play over it with the EDP, just nothing rhythm= ic.  i plan on getting a bit better at the EDP in the interim season b= efore i start work this winter. 
 
none of this is loop= ing, but here i am:
 
i know i am too ecle= ctic to actually attract too much attention.  but that doesn't bother = me--  the looping is just one more part of that.  hope everyone i= s well, and i do invite you to check the link out if you have time/interest=
 
thanks!
 
time
 

From:= william middlemiss <billymiddlemiss@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deligh= t.com
Sent: Friday, Octo= ber 21, 2011 11:45 PM
Subject: Why...?

Why do you 'loop'? What got you started on this pat= h?

Was it a mechanism for solo performance? to record a vamp?

A compositional device, a new avenue of expression? (repetition as com= positional device?)

An 'artistic statement' in itself? as if to say "I DONT NEED NO STINKI= N BAND!"

A fallback for artistic roadblocks? (as in--an easy way out)

A way of exploring new rhythms?

A textural apparatus? sound design?

A means of 'warping sound'?

With me, it's been all of the above, and I've jumped among 7 or 8 devi= ces along the way.

How about you?





--1827137848-1163063293-1319374737=:67883-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 23 13:13:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55DC6183464; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 13:13:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QAC74eTG9zzOYCCOJyjxCRrS58wmm6i0PN6m/p2s0zQ=; b=egItNVpqeWBHXq5JMvHmUnUV52bn3ljF2zdCDX+mXw7IzJs26CfPz+JEa8nK00VBlH x7SQodwKMO8wemU3N3o4+ym+O/8toBiK6e5IliSa8aURiK+acpLm4PF0DEkKxdv03T4N MttiyQrVEjILjw7G/dKNUlG0hXINN2QTVaY8o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4EA3EF5B.9020806@cruzio.com> References: <4EA3EF5B.9020806@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:13:34 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: URGENT GLITCH! Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112522 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 13:13:36 +0000 (UTC) > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> Then it hit me that I forgot to eat yesterday - On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > I'm so glad that someone else does something this silly > when they are 'in the zone' =C2=A0of work and creativity. > > I don't recommend it, =C2=A0but I've had many a day where 12 hours into i= t > I think......."shit, =C2=A0I never ate, did I?" LOL! Usually I get reminded by an increasing feeling of hunger but now when here in Scandinavia still on Californian time zone rhythm that instant reminder doesn't work very well. But no matter eating or not I always make sure I'm drinking enough. On some occasions I have fasted for up to three weeks while only drinking and it felt totally ok and doesn't affect you much at all - well, actually just a little but in a positive way. But that might be just me; since I removed intestinal cancer last year (surgery) I have never felt the need for fasting again... maybe that was just some instinctual way of "self healing", like you see some animals in nature take on now and then. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 23 14:01:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 705EC183465; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 14:01:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=9ubqAVur0sB9drE/HNtuzGeC8dHhNheoXDvMqDSN8p0=; b=GMgojzemHVAMkNXGNWsMUxMxwywSqSaC/FPrVUmxUcjgeyKLzYMSsSFc3PFUaGp36p GWgKPhau8E5f1n/BYjcx3rsysFS2YlF3pqpJHd5Kce/IvrWJamEpFU2y9JbiPctOeiJG Sdj4pb5UgNZ3elg/X/L5d/Fum7CqSLTv3w7iU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4EA333B9.1010300@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 16:01:04 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: URGENT GLITCH! Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ra=FCl_Bonell?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec520f53bb97bfa04aff7bcf1 Resent-Message-ID: <0qs5vD.A.EvE.h4BpOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112523 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 14:01:06 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec520f53bb97bfa04aff7bcf1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 2011/10/23 Per Boysen > It seems DB is designed for one-to-one collaboration only. > i didn't know about that. thanks, per. > Chris Robert's FTP server is a better strategy. Everything is now > uploaded there: > http://www.musetrap.com/y2kx1/ > > yuppie! thanks chris! > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > -- .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-..-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Your moral values are meaningless, artificial constructs. For your imagination, they provide you a falsely superior position in your social group. For the strong, they provide a means by which you are easily manipulated. In reality, they serve the entertainment needs of others. In the Kimatorium, they are irrelevant. Kim Flint .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com --bcaec520f53bb97bfa04aff7bcf1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

2011/10/23 Per Boysen = <perboysen@gmail.com>
=A0It seems DB is designed for one-to-one collaboration only.

i didn= 't know about that. thanks, per.
=A0
Chris Robert's FTP server is a better strategy. Everything is now
uploaded there:
http://www.mus= etrap.com/y2kx1/


yuppie! thanks chris!
=A0
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub




--
.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-= .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-..-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-= .
Your moral values are meaningless, artificial constru= cts. For your imagination,
they provide you a falsely superior position in your social group.

For the strong, they provide a means by which you are e= asily manipulated.

In reality, they serve the en= tertainment needs of others.

In the Kimatorium, they are irrelevant.


Kim= Flint

.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.raulbonell.tumb= lr.com - collective= .com


--bcaec520f53bb97bfa04aff7bcf1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 23 14:32:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 489B8183465; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 14:32:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=2k7Iii6bfysRYLhkXZRIMwhCt+LydlXrs2hEKyIceS0=; b=bOWDn3oFcR6z7N9WPoe08cTbpQnh5OAfDOFuR08qKClQyWsCcG++QCFHTeJQBuwZNw +iSH1vh3L81GhM6jn5Nju6T++gtAZYwZoWwsrWe5z0lUztBrUt7mjWv7MOcgnoaOzifh /M84PYmKJ0z7tW0zn1n1fzCQ0zVKu3snOcTHA= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Sync EDP to RC-20 From: Matthias Grob In-Reply-To: <1319374737.67883.YahooMailNeo@web120714.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 11:32:07 -0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3BA2EEC2-92F3-440C-9485-CAFDE51C8B5A@gmail.com> References: <1319374737.67883.YahooMailNeo@web120714.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: Loop List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <93pvJ.A.7TF.wVCpOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112524 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 14:32:16 +0000 (UTC) in 2002 I made an output for the blinking LED of Tim Crowe's RC-20 and = fed the BeatSync input of the EDP, that works! On 23 Oct 2011, at 09:58, tim echols wrote: > i have both an EDP and an RC-20. i like both, but wish they could be = synched. i can develop ambient drones on the RC-20 and then play over = it with the EDP, just nothing rhythmic.=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 23 14:40:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3FB56183464; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 14:40:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Hh1Xri/GEcv72mLY1rgPjEqS/VhEhWO6G55DefNumxY=; b=SZR+5e2Jzs4BzWrsmNDwvwPAHIiLGv7FAPRSpRbZ2HVHxzhfIgg6qir4j6qVaQlyD5 Jry8rgaGJD6pl4mdv1a44biBN/exc9RNy/UMvWt0HAuunFjb5dvnIxsQZugzJF7JSfX8 rhz4bxQwP+Y9NaNtU2WgX7h9M5tXqzrF4mzgs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3BA2EEC2-92F3-440C-9485-CAFDE51C8B5A@gmail.com> References: <1319374737.67883.YahooMailNeo@web120714.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <3BA2EEC2-92F3-440C-9485-CAFDE51C8B5A@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 16:40:37 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sync EDP to RC-20 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <7UIdJD.A.WhF.mdCpOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112525 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 14:40:38 +0000 (UTC) > On 23 Oct 2011, at 09:58, tim echols wrote: > >> i have both an EDP and an RC-20. i like both, but wish they could be s= ynched. i can develop ambient drones on the RC-20 and then play over it wi= th the EDP, just nothing rhythmic. > > On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: > in 2002 I made an output for the blinking LED of Tim Crowe's RC-20 and fe= d the BeatSync input of the EDP, that works! > Smart CV solution! I had forgotten about that but now when you mention it I recall. I've been using my EDP's BeatSync when recording synced to a computer DAW rig and it worked flawlessly. The EDP proved ok following its own CV pulse that I had recorded as a sync track and was sending out back into the EDP in order for it to follow the tempo in sync when layering more loops a=C2=B4la EDP playing into the multi track recording. Just as Tim's EDP could follow the RC-20. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 23 15:12:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC412183465; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:12:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=CW0uioFw6tVXIxqRK17SD4ZICRv3N1OVvxXU78hgAGo= c=1 sm=2 a=1C182-7cDUAA:10 a=agWTFdhlyG4A:10 a=kZCaSYHnAAAA:8 a=AmuB-pcYAAAA:8 a=x9LQtntrAAAA:8 a=oTtuw1C_AAAA:8 a=52owdl9-b9kJdSI6BigA:9 a=_RYf3pc-tRGFagf91bAA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=9dKDUTTeGJsA:10 a=4g1Un4FPLDYA:10 a=k9XOtJXmrMMA:10 a=pQ2a0EFxmsAA:10 a=ZeClTLx0qDfTMlcOPkwA:9 a=Ffnl7K37AR8A1MJYbe8A:7 X-Telus-Outbound-IP: 64.180.201.44 From: richard sales Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--374369845 Subject: Re: URGENT GLITCH! Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 08:12:10 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4EA3EF5B.9020806@cruzio.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112526 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:12:12 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--374369845 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lucky you! I wish I could forget to eat.=20 I do get washed away in inspiration but even in the whitest of waters, = even when the heavens have opened up and the creation angels themselves = are roaring through the pinhole in 'reality', food is ever present. =20 I do forget things. I forgot to smoke and accidentally quit smoking. = Same with beer - which I loved like my mother.=20 I did fast a decade or so ago for a couple weeks and got higher than any = drug I've ever taken. It was fun, but I've been making up for it like a = camel at the oasis ever since.=20 richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com On Oct 23, 2011, at 6:13 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >>>=20 >>> Then it hit me that I forgot to eat yesterday - >=20 > On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Rick Walker = wrote: >> I'm so glad that someone else does something this silly >> when they are 'in the zone' of work and creativity. >>=20 >> I don't recommend it, but I've had many a day where 12 hours into it >> I think......."shit, I never ate, did I?" >=20 > LOL! Usually I get reminded by an increasing feeling of hunger but now > when here in Scandinavia still on Californian time zone rhythm that > instant reminder doesn't work very well. But no matter eating or not I > always make sure I'm drinking enough. On some occasions I have fasted > for up to three weeks while only drinking and it felt totally ok and > doesn't affect you much at all - well, actually just a little but in a > positive way. But that might be just me; since I removed intestinal > cancer last year (surgery) I have never felt the need for fasting > again... maybe that was just some instinctual way of "self healing", > like you see some animals in nature take on now and then. >=20 > Per >=20 --Apple-Mail-3--374369845 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Lucky = you!  I wish I could forget to eat. 

I do = get washed away in inspiration but even in the whitest of waters, even = when the heavens have opened up and the creation angels themselves are = roaring through the pinhole in 'reality', food is ever present. =  

I do forget things.  I forgot to = smoke and accidentally quit smoking.  Same with beer - which I = loved like my mother. 

I did fast a decade = or so ago for a couple weeks and got higher than any drug I've ever = taken.  It was fun, but I've been making up for it like a camel at = the oasis ever since. 

On Oct 23, 2011, at 6:13 AM, Per Boysen wrote:

On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Per = Boysen wrote:

Then it hit me that I forgot to = eat yesterday -

On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at = 12:41 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> = wrote:
I'm so glad that someone else does = something this silly
when they = are 'in the zone'  of work and = creativity.

I don't = recommend it,  but I've had many a day where 12 hours into = it
I think......."shit, =  I never ate, did I?"

LOL! Usually I get = reminded by an increasing feeling of hunger but now
when here in = Scandinavia still on Californian time zone rhythm that
instant = reminder doesn't work very well. But no matter eating or not I
always = make sure I'm drinking enough. On some occasions I have fasted
for up = to three weeks while only drinking and it felt totally ok and
doesn't = affect you much at all - well, actually just a little but in = a
positive way. But that might be just me; since I removed = intestinal
cancer last year (surgery) I have never felt the need for = fasting
again... maybe that was just some instinctual way of "self = healing",
like you see some animals in nature take on now and = then.

Per



richard sales
<= font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38">www.richardsales.com
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= --Apple-Mail-3--374369845-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 23 16:19:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78EC818345E; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 16:19:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1201 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 16:19:35 UTC X-WS-COS: WSOB803 X-Cloudmark-Category: Undefined:Undefined X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=wi2J7rgTjtt66PGN7+JMAiX4/IqmFavmjTO+nE+rCy4= c=1 sm=0 a=PS5YPsqztb8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=BwwcCQCp3BTUrCc84QsA:9 a=Kzw38SJERK3boTLoUlIA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=AmeDO-2SPWK4B25v:21 a=DyZFzD2YJV-asqwD:21 a=OHdvPF6+MnTcyuqLz7qlFw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Subject: Re: Why...? References: <1B6199507BA14C789075D4FED588E8D0@your0548c161e1> From: chaz worm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8L1) In-Reply-To: <1B6199507BA14C789075D4FED588E8D0@your0548c161e1> Message-Id: <817EC5D2-6088-4E4D-9535-53E236D1E284@earthwormandfire.com> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 11:59:26 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8L1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112527 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 16:19:35 +0000 (UTC) I think most musicians are reluctant to admit their true motivating factor: C= hicks.=20 We generally are sub par on the looks category and we want chicks we're not "= entitled to".=20 That is why a band generally starts going downhill when a member gets marrie= d.=20 I've been married now 14 years and my band, Earth, Worm and Fire, has pretty= much finally petered out. The other creative force (and far more talented) h= as been married 15-16 years.=20 That is why I loop. I like playing funny music and making people laugh.=20 But further, when you are a bass player/lead singer, it's hard to carry your= upright to the local coffee house and sing and play and be very entertainin= g at all.=20 Time for a new band:=20 Electric Light Opry Chaz Worm - singer, bass, banjo Earth, Worm & Fire http://myspace.com/earthwormandfire http://YouTube.com/ChazWorm On Oct 22, 2011, at 3:05 AM, "Clayton Gary Lehmann" wrote: > We just did this six weeks ago . . . > I was trying to get chicks- >=20 > ________________________________________ > From: william middlemiss [mailto:billymiddlemiss@gmail.com]=20 > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:46 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Why...? >=20 > Why do you 'loop'? What got you started on this path? >=20 > Was it a mechanism for solo performance? to record a vamp? >=20 > A compositional device, a new avenue of expression? (repetition as > compositional device?) >=20 > An 'artistic statement' in itself? as if to say "I DONT NEED NO STINKIN > BAND!" >=20 > A fallback for artistic roadblocks? (as in--an easy way out) >=20 > A way of exploring new rhythms? >=20 > A textural apparatus? sound design? >=20 > A means of 'warping sound'? >=20 > With me, it's been all of the above, and I've jumped among 7 or 8 devices > along the way. >=20 > How about you? >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 23 16:20:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1BFF9183473; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 16:20:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-WS-COS: WSOB803 X-Cloudmark-Category: Undefined:Undefined X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=wi2J7rgTjtt66PGN7+JMAiX4/IqmFavmjTO+nE+rCy4= c=1 sm=0 a=PS5YPsqztb8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=A2bGdCcTAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=aqsjeXQr0Naie2_aCWUA:9 a=cYKIoq8jHn-Q4riN7BsA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=OHdvPF6+MnTcyuqLz7qlFw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Subject: Re: Why...? References: <1B6199507BA14C789075D4FED588E8D0@your0548c161e1> From: chaz worm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8L1) In-Reply-To: <1B6199507BA14C789075D4FED588E8D0@your0548c161e1> Message-Id: <4510335D-6C4B-4619-BBF7-E022AD9F687A@earthwormandfire.com> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 12:19:54 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8L1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112528 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 16:20:01 +0000 (UTC) After reading this further I thought i'd answer the original message in rega= rds to me: On Oct 22, 2011, at 3:05 AM, "Clayton Gary Lehmann" wrote: >=20 > Why do you 'loop'? What got you started on this path? I must admit it was the Black Horse Cherry Tree the really re-ignited my pas= sion for it. I almost afraid to admit that but I thought she was uber-effing= cool. I haven't seen her name bantered about here much so maybe she is disl= iked. I careth not. I haven't been subscribing too long.=20 I had recorded a "loop" metronome harmony vocal track on a song in the late 8= 0's utilizing a digitech dsp128(sic?) >=20 > Was it a mechanism for solo performance? to record a vamp? Again I'm almost embarrassed because, unlike KT Tunstall, I have read many o= pinions of my equipment and they are all bad.=20 I love it Boss RC-50 I play a locally made banjo thru it and with my other two pedals, POD Octave= and a Digital Reverb ( I set it to gated to get that cheesy drum machine so= und off my banjo head) >=20 > A compositional device, a new avenue of expression? (repetition as > compositional device?) I have only written a few songs with it in mind.=20 >=20 > An 'artistic statement' in itself? as if to say "I DONT NEED NO STINKIN > BAND!" Yes. I like being a solo banjo player with a 50lb effects bag.=20 I often bill myself as KY's Pete Seeger of Punkgrass >=20 > A fallback for artistic roadblocks? (as in--an easy way out) >=20 Not really > A way of exploring new rhythms? I'm a rather sub-par banjo player due to my lack of rhythmic variation. I gu= ess it helps.=20 >=20 > A textural apparatus? sound design? Actually most of the more interesting stuff I do with it is vocal harmonies >=20 > A means of 'warping sound'? >=20 Warping a traditional bluegrass sound; yes.=20 > With me, it's been all of the above, and I've jumped among 7 or 8 devices > along the way. >=20 Well. I often loop harmonicas (I prefer harmonic minor key harmonicas) and s= witching between my homemade archtop and my uber cheap fretless gut string m= instrel banjo.=20 Soon I will be adding appalachain dulcimer to my sound. I think that will re= ally make things "interesting" Chaz Worm - singer, bass, banjo Earth, Worm & Fire http://chazworm.com http://myspace.com/earthwormandfire http://YouTube.com/ChazWorm >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 23 17:40:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 79327183473; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 17:40:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3827 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 17:40:23 UTC Subject: Re: Why...? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: David Gans In-Reply-To: <817EC5D2-6088-4E4D-9535-53E236D1E284@earthwormandfire.com> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 09:36:26 -0700 Cc: David Gans Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <24DF8009-B91F-4908-B4E1-BA7D3C12379A@trufun.com> References: <1B6199507BA14C789075D4FED588E8D0@your0548c161e1> <817EC5D2-6088-4E4D-9535-53E236D1E284@earthwormandfire.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112529 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 17:40:23 +0000 (UTC) Great post man! I have been very happily married for 17 years. I did indeed get into = music for the chicks and social status but over time I actually got good = at it and got interested in talkinga bout other matters in my music. = And life got a lot easier and healthier when I stopped stay out out late = after gigs trying to get into someone's pants. On Oct 23, 2011, at 8:59 AM, chaz worm wrote: > I think most musicians are reluctant to admit their true motivating = factor: Chicks.=20 > We generally are sub par on the looks category and we want chicks = we're not "entitled to".=20 > That is why a band generally starts going downhill when a member gets = married.=20 > I've been married now 14 years and my band, Earth, Worm and Fire, has = pretty much finally petered out. The other creative force (and far more = talented) has been married 15-16 years.=20 >=20 > That is why I loop. I like playing funny music and making people = laugh.=20 > But further, when you are a bass player/lead singer, it's hard to = carry your upright to the local coffee house and sing and play and be = very entertaining at all.=20 >=20 > Time for a new band:=20 > Electric Light Opry David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 23 18:25:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E412B18345F; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 18:25:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020205.4EA45C0D.0013,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=vmSrqHUeCwR1F8njIjC2SAQ6CBBoRviGnHKufuHqHTY= c=1 sm=1 a=w5cWdjMXzpYA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:17 a=vE9Yp3RhAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=hrSvrL0qW0feVRDjwMQA:9 a=PX2Fe1EfwM_n19df3TAA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=zXEfOMw5J-gA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=Tnm2b640rJmoNB8H:21 a=Tq3-fI4o_m9cD4_y:21 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=MGoRD3zOJo6GWA6HCzIA:9 a=1AlesUAfNZHCawXP47cA:7 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Clayton Gary Lehmann" To: References: <1B6199507BA14C789075D4FED588E8D0@your0548c161e1> Subject: Chicks, Looping, and Harmonica (was Why...?) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 11:25:04 -0700 Message-ID: <7E5911750B1B445BA048103011A24DF2@your0548c161e1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B4_01CC9176.6992F970" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcyRXCa/Odhm3BYIRKS/b+jyfK0v8AAUdUkg In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112530 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 18:25:18 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B4_01CC9176.6992F970 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Mark and all, Of course it worked! I can stop making noise and start talking to them while my performance continues . . . But seriously, since we are all 'fessing up (again-one wonders how many times this thread has come up on LD), I might as well confess why I find looping so attractive. Making music is like painting the silence with sound-so loopers enable you to accumulate those brush strokes. I play plectrum guitar (as opposed to fingerstyle-hi Ted) and so find it harder to play contrapuntally-although I am heavily into harmonica now, that helps. I have tried looping harmonica, but just putting guitar thru the signal processors in addition to the free reed sounds seems to be enough noise-and of course, chicks dig harmonica! I am retuning harps, and have started really digging into the tuning I used on my track for the 20th Anniversary clip collection-I think it's on Kris' website. It's a IV6 blow/V6 draw tuning-so no tonic chord. It's fully chromatic with draw bends, only one note needs be produced with the extended technique known as overblowing. Brendan Power claims to have used it first on a recording, I think he calls it Power Chromatic. But it is a 10 hole diatonic tuning. I just retuned a Steve Baker Special 14 hole to this tuning in C, and am reeeally happy with how it turned out. I have also built chromatics with this tuning, but I don't like it as well as bebop tuned chrom. Chaz, nice to see another harp player on these pages-some great players are starting to show up. I am also glad you like the RC-20, I want to hear when people like the tools they have chosen. I am on tenterhooks waiting for the next level of pedal loopers, the LP-2 by Bob Amstadt. Even as we speak, he is assembling my unit in his garage. -----Original Message----- From: Mark Hamburg [mailto:mark@grubmah.com] Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:10 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Why...? On Oct 22, 2011, at 12:05 AM, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote: > We just did this six weeks ago . . . > I was trying to get chicks- Did it work? 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Hi Mark and all,

Of course it worked! I can stop making noise and = start talking to them while my performance continues . . = .

But seriously, since we are all ‘fessing up = (again—one wonders how many times this thread has come up on LD), I might as well = confess why I find looping so attractive.

Making music is like painting the silence with = sound—so loopers enable you to accumulate those brush = strokes.

I play plectrum guitar (as opposed to = fingerstyle—hi Ted) and so find it harder to play contrapuntally—although I am heavily = into harmonica now, that helps.

I have tried looping harmonica, but just putting = guitar thru the signal processors in addition to the free reed sounds seems to be = enough noise—and of course, chicks dig = harmonica!

I am retuning harps, and have started really digging = into the tuning I used on my track for the 20th Anniversary clip collection—I think it’s on Kris’ = website.

It’s a IV6 blow/V6 draw tuning—so no = tonic chord. It’s fully chromatic with draw bends, only one note needs = be produced with the extended technique known as = overblowing.

Brendan Power claims to have used it first on a = recording, I think he calls it Power Chromatic. But it is a 10 hole diatonic = tuning.

I just retuned a Steve Baker Special 14 hole to this = tuning in C, and am reeeally happy with how it turned out. I have also built chromatics with this tuning, but I don’t like it as well as bebop = tuned chrom.

Chaz, nice to see another harp player on these = pages—some great players are starting to show up.

I am also glad you like the RC-20, I want to hear = when people like the tools they have chosen.

I am on tenterhooks waiting for the next level of = pedal loopers, the LP-2 by Bob Amstadt. Even as we speak, he is assembling my = unit in his garage.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Hamburg [mailto:mark@grubmah.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:10 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Why...?

 

On Oct 22, 2011, at 12:05 AM, Clayton Gary Lehmann = wrote:

 

> We just did this six weeks ago . . = .

> I was trying to get chicks-

 

Did it work?

 

Mark

------=_NextPart_000_00B4_01CC9176.6992F970-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 23 19:51:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CECD7183464; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 19:51:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Mark Hamburg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Pedalboard friendly splitters and mixers? Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 12:51:45 -0700 Message-Id: To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112531 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 19:51:48 +0000 (UTC) Gee, let me simplify my rig down to a pedalboard and ditch the rack... = Hmm. Now as I accumulate boxes I have a desire for a complex signal path = to accommodate various options. So, as I try to rationalize it all, I'm = looking for advice on appropriate connective tissue for the rig. Here is = what I want to do: Guitar -> A/B box -> "electric" chain -> stereo outs -> "acoustic" chain -> stereo outs Now, mix those stereo outs or have a loop selector that works at both = the front and back end of the loop since I don't plan to have both = chains active at once and I'd rather not have noise coming from the = inactive chain. Okay. That stereo signal will probably feed into a Strymon TimeLine. Then I need to split it off to a couple of loopers (and possibly a = straight through stereo signal). One of these loopers is probably the = Boomerang III. The other is likely to be a Line6 M9 for ambient = textures. Next problem: The Line6 has no good way to mute the through = signal. Advice here is also welcome. Then I need to mix the outputs from the loopers (and possibly a straight = signal) and then feed that into a reverb unit. So, the points in the chain where I need advice are: 1. Either a simple stereo mixer to handle the two guitar chains or = better yet an A/B loop selector that supports mono-in and stereo-out. 2. A two or three way stereo splitter to feed the loopers. 3. A two or three way mixer to bring the loopers back together. 4. A way to deal with the fact that the Line6 M9 has no way to mute the = through signal and just let me process the looper. Even in a rack mount context with my various Mackie mixer, the frequency = with which things need to happen in stereo is a bit daunting. On the = other hand, I really just need basic splitting and mixing. Mark P.S. Is anyone interested in a Line6 M13? Great unit, but excessively = big in this context. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 23 21:56:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 585C5183461; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 21:56:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=QGhpS0xhB65qpbFcrlFXfZed3JWp2J6lTdHKt60kj00=; b=cx441akZ3xQaKanYYrbXSx40NV+vjiPDtttwKVzgrgdsOwXS+tnGNTEIKSpmnYtc2z IBf/FMSBjKk6CQgUcHplB0Z7GN2zqrXUOuQ8GlCGh9lzEf6+t7E6CJhT8pyDJD50OWFa HNuxNfe2auWSWlIWH7cqW6k6wQmjW+Rfl4J3U= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 16:56:40 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Pedalboard friendly splitters and mixers? From: Mike Fugazzi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd3bba09eb13504affe6156 Resent-Message-ID: <2rd_j.A.HTE.a2IpOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112532 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 21:56:42 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd3bba09eb13504affe6156 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I use a M13. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZEiGB5AzsU&feature=youtube_gdata_player Between that, the Rang, and the Bass Driver DI, I can split and send in all sorts of ways. I tend to send an uneffected signal to my amp and one from the DI to my monitor. Right now, all my effects from the M13 go through the looper, amp, and monitor. Sent from my phone, Mike On Oct 23, 2011 3:51 PM, "Mark Hamburg" wrote: > Gee, let me simplify my rig down to a pedalboard and ditch the rack... Hmm. > Now as I accumulate boxes I have a desire for a complex signal path to > accommodate various options. So, as I try to rationalize it all, I'm looking > for advice on appropriate connective tissue for the rig. Here is what I want > to do: > > Guitar -> A/B box -> "electric" chain -> stereo outs > -> "acoustic" chain -> stereo outs > > Now, mix those stereo outs or have a loop selector that works at both the > front and back end of the loop since I don't plan to have both chains active > at once and I'd rather not have noise coming from the inactive chain. > > Okay. That stereo signal will probably feed into a Strymon TimeLine. > > Then I need to split it off to a couple of loopers (and possibly a straight > through stereo signal). One of these loopers is probably the Boomerang III. > The other is likely to be a Line6 M9 for ambient textures. Next problem: The > Line6 has no good way to mute the through signal. Advice here is also > welcome. > > Then I need to mix the outputs from the loopers (and possibly a straight > signal) and then feed that into a reverb unit. > > So, the points in the chain where I need advice are: > > 1. Either a simple stereo mixer to handle the two guitar chains or better > yet an A/B loop selector that supports mono-in and stereo-out. > 2. A two or three way stereo splitter to feed the loopers. > 3. A two or three way mixer to bring the loopers back together. > 4. A way to deal with the fact that the Line6 M9 has no way to mute the > through signal and just let me process the looper. > > Even in a rack mount context with my various Mackie mixer, the frequency > with which things need to happen in stereo is a bit daunting. On the other > hand, I really just need basic splitting and mixing. > > Mark > > P.S. Is anyone interested in a Line6 M13? Great unit, but excessively big > in this context. > > --000e0cd3bba09eb13504affe6156 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I use a M13.=A0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DSZEiGB= 5AzsU&feature=3Dyoutube_gdata_player

Between that, the Rang, and the Bass Driver DI, I can split and send in = all sorts of ways.=A0 I tend to send an uneffected signal to my amp and one= from the DI to my monitor.=A0 Right now, all my effects from the M13 go th= rough the looper, amp, and monitor.

Sent from my phone,

Mike

On Oct 23, 2011 3:51 PM, "Mark Hamburg"= ; <mark@grubmah.com> wrote:
Gee, let me simplify my rig down to a pedalboard and ditch the rack... Hmm.= Now as I accumulate boxes I have a desire for a complex signal path to acc= ommodate various options. So, as I try to rationalize it all, I'm looki= ng for advice on appropriate connective tissue for the rig. Here is what I = want to do:

Guitar -> A/B box -> "electric" chain -> stereo outs
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-> "= ;acoustic" chain -> stereo outs

Now, mix those stereo outs or have a loop selector that works at both the f= ront and back end of the loop since I don't plan to have both chains ac= tive at once and I'd rather not have noise coming from the inactive cha= in.

Okay. That stereo signal will probably feed into a Strymon TimeLine.

Then I need to split it off to a couple of loopers (and possibly a straight= through stereo signal). One of these loopers is probably the Boomerang III= . The other is likely to be a Line6 M9 for ambient textures. Next problem: = The Line6 has no good way to mute the through signal. Advice here is also w= elcome.

Then I need to mix the outputs from the loopers (and possibly a straight si= gnal) and then feed that into a reverb unit.

So, the points in the chain where I need advice are:

1. Either a simple stereo mixer to handle the two guitar chains or better y= et an A/B loop selector that supports mono-in and stereo-out.
2. A two or three way stereo splitter to feed the loopers.
3. A two or three way mixer to bring the loopers back together.
4. A way to deal with the fact that the Line6 M9 has no way to mute the thr= ough signal and just let me process the looper.

Even in a rack mount context with my various Mackie mixer, the frequency wi= th which things need to happen in stereo is a bit daunting. On the other ha= nd, I really just need basic splitting and mixing.

Mark

P.S. Is anyone interested in a Line6 M13? Great unit, but excessively big i= n this context.

--000e0cd3bba09eb13504affe6156-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 23 22:00:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3BC7E18345E; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 22:00:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WKKAtvMvIoQcg9f6uoVOuN77mKdht8rwaE6lkDg10FI=; b=c4JFniHj/aCWC7txTfNz+xNPthgFYj7GINNqOLBXS4lmII3k9OX/Ay6qSWny1+eLdY tCF/5ZvdJ9wpSL7uzsno2mObAS1SxyxZdfaB9RspnNfT8tyPapXmvFRv4yjkS7BP5GPc +OWHlEl6NF8eUur8Wgdog5p0dgvL7E/Hod6X0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <24DF8009-B91F-4908-B4E1-BA7D3C12379A@trufun.com> References: <1B6199507BA14C789075D4FED588E8D0@your0548c161e1> <817EC5D2-6088-4E4D-9535-53E236D1E284@earthwormandfire.com> <24DF8009-B91F-4908-B4E1-BA7D3C12379A@trufun.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 00:00:43 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why...? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112533 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 22:00:44 +0000 (UTC) girls dont like looper shoogazers they wanna be looked at! On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 6:36 PM, David Gans wrote: > > Great post man! > > I have been very happily married for 17 years. =A0I did indeed get into m= usic for the chicks and social status but over time I actually got good at = it and got interested in talkinga bout other matters in my music. =A0And li= fe got a lot easier and healthier when I stopped stay out out late after gi= gs trying to get into someone's pants. > > > > On Oct 23, 2011, at 8:59 AM, chaz worm wrote: > >> I think most musicians are reluctant to admit their true motivating fact= or: Chicks. >> We generally are sub par on the looks category and we want chicks we're = not "entitled to". >> That is why a band generally starts going downhill when a member gets ma= rried. >> I've been married now 14 years and my band, Earth, Worm and Fire, has pr= etty much finally petered out. The other creative force (and far more talen= ted) has been married 15-16 years. >> >> That is why I loop. I like playing funny music and making people laugh. >> But further, when you are a bass player/lead singer, it's hard to carry = your upright to the local coffee house and sing and play and be very entert= aining at all. >> >> Time for a new band: >> Electric Light Opry > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: =A0http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com > Web site: http://www.dgans.com > Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans > Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans > > > > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 23 22:06:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0C34183454; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 22:06:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ym2mDXlhTa4q6Cq5P8kmUcokf20elC0rxb0A9v2XK0w=; b=IiGPuE07BjM4jZFcxHyVbjwZ2Eu+eVPlB6pS+Q1wK6JzU3+u6McorJb+YjDKCrR2Cn 7SUOzgxbBnJye1NVe0jsTfXolvwd5bFZIC5gqG4+f8uTdu1cFHTaceKbsviHkW/RyvLo HpEYPmjc+5tsnbdbqLed8xUsZLyqr8nPEwKCA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <817EC5D2-6088-4E4D-9535-53E236D1E284@earthwormandfire.com> References: <1B6199507BA14C789075D4FED588E8D0@your0548c161e1> <817EC5D2-6088-4E4D-9535-53E236D1E284@earthwormandfire.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 00:06:03 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why...? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112534 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 22:06:04 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 5:59 PM, chaz worm wrote: > I think most musicians are reluctant to admit their true motivating factor: Chicks. Does that theory include female musicians...? ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 23 22:09:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 646AF183461; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 22:09:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rAlAxcjOG5WhTrIM8lcznN/CFF1QtS+jIXHa/4ad8+o=; b=sbG/mwZDRT7+F9RSfdsaOZ2/cujSuzSy/bko48hrtURMOcaYqw+/kZnvziaZDZwo0L z6CWF8emoXp+HzGZGcJL79mx6cZHOyFnkjoEo/jZOeIO0htZoT+kh92zv/mhBYug1G02 bgN17i3gS2+iAGw6Y7VRmEJDa/QkbJle4PPmU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1B6199507BA14C789075D4FED588E8D0@your0548c161e1> <817EC5D2-6088-4E4D-9535-53E236D1E284@earthwormandfire.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 00:09:53 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why...? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112535 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 22:09:54 +0000 (UTC) thats when shoegazers stop lookin down;-) On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 5:59 PM, chaz worm wr= ote: >> I think most musicians are reluctant to admit their true motivating fact= or: Chicks. > > Does that theory include female musicians...? =A0;-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 23 22:18:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8537183461; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 22:18:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=6svLw9FCmyzB8apmpeDoIM/IvktT4Ix7lvtAEReXJUc=; b=eSW1lW/HVoBhX1bBNYIaP6aq6q9+yoNPPkhB3Cp4XnRuoNCthyr276fZfLub/YOEPp qjC2TWHHE+Z/5cF2t6vcVB2ZZjWi+E6uFvEEHwVNIDghFJd9MoCcad04p/LGdodC69RM //gYIFaEtK0kyblRBgFIwFRBZtqXJqItnjqgI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4EA16561.20300@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4EA16561.20300@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 00:18:38 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sounds looped, but isn't From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112536 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 22:18:39 +0000 (UTC) that aint nothin! you want real loopin? dig this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUTQsUKWFxc and then you ll get the chicks On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 2:28 PM, andy butler wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzWITU3L-F0 > > and make sure you keep going till the end > > andy > > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 23 22:29:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 329BF183463; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 22:29:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Why...? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: David Gans In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:18:17 -0700 Cc: David Gans Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <1B6199507BA14C789075D4FED588E8D0@your0548c161e1> <817EC5D2-6088-4E4D-9535-53E236D1E284@earthwormandfire.com> <24DF8009-B91F-4908-B4E1-BA7D3C12379A@trufun.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112537 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 22:29:13 +0000 (UTC) That's where being a songwriter is an advantage. I look down when I'm = looping, but when I am singing I am out there making contact. On Oct 23, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > girls dont like looper shoogazers they wanna be looked at! David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 23 22:45:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10CC0183460; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 22:45:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=C3bBln3eIqzmLbhnjN1+37epQRlw0UYHgKqY6Kg0qU0=; b=FO/YsGncOs/QgYusF8b2FvXEyfXNocuXtWB9cVdUohhHWZ0RWMdHQdymubxu4GqnqX 6h5rkT59WF7fCL4CZEz3LneKVwyG762+qE8sZOUWWXFFlSGoCrfToZyKo9h1rzjcQHuJ guOwbx0diHgvHus1nUFCTUOUCBL1fywqhFj5U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 00:44:59 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: xw-U_56e6LsM4YNJXImJWQMR0Do Message-ID: Subject: More EDP synch woes! To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30563e178a6c4e04afff0f1e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112538 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 22:45:19 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30563e178a6c4e04afff0f1e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well its late Sunday night (band rehearsal night) and again I write the sad story about getting 3 EDPs in synch: So now we dropped brother sync altogether... (just cant get them all on at the same time...my ARE brother synched together, but they are bit dodgy, one needs to be turned on and off many times for its to work but once its on, it usually is OK) ...and went for midi, cant go wrong there? Well I dont understand, but even though the 3rd member of the band (the one with no EDP) was sending the master midi clock, into a midi merge box, and then me and my fellow EDP'er were getting midi from the merge box. Mine worked.. his didnt!! When the clock was started, up came some numbers on my 2 EDP's. (I think that its the time in seconds of one bar loop). My friend cant speak for the reliability of his EDP, but he NEVER got the same numbers up as me. Now, I was also getting occasional weird things happening, and when we checked his midi, sure enough there was some dirt in it, the occasional CC and some patch change messages. Sooo... in the end we came to the conclusion that we need a good, stable clock source box of some kind (suggestions?), and the we all synch FROM it... So after they had gone, I tried something... I have a hardware modular sequencer (incidentally called Mobius_ no relation) with all sorts of cool outputs, so I try synching my edp's FROM it, (funny I never tried it before) And VERY WEIRD.. I get different numbers on both EDP's... They are both set the same, sync=IN.. but consistantly, one is showing 0.70 and the other is 05.5 So different!!! WHY!!!????? I change the tempo up to 160 (my theory being that slower clock is wobblier.. ) and the same occurs. EDP 1 is =.38 and EDP 2 is 03.1 WHY WHY WHY??? -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --20cf30563e178a6c4e04afff0f1e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well its late Sunday night (band rehearsal night) and again I write the sad= story about getting 3 EDPs in synch:

So now we dropped brother sync= altogether...

(just cant get them all on at the same time...my ARE = brother synched together, but they are bit dodgy, one needs to be=20 turned on and off many times for its to work but once its on, it usually is OK)

...and went for midi, cant go wrong there?
Well I dont un= derstand, but even though the 3rd member of the band (the one with no EDP) = was sending the master midi clock, into a midi merge box, and then me and m= y fellow EDP'er were getting midi from the merge box.
Mine worked.. his didnt!! When the clock was started, up came some numbers = on my 2 EDP's. (I think that its the time in seconds of one bar loop). =
My friend cant speak for the reliability of his EDP, but he NEVER got t= he same numbers up as me.

Now, I was also getting occasional weird things happening, and when we = checked his midi, sure enough there was some dirt in it, the occasional CC = and some patch change messages.
Sooo... in the end we came to the conclu= sion that we need a good, stable clock source box of some kind (suggestions= ?), and the we all synch FROM it...

So after they had gone, I tried something...
I have a hardware modu= lar sequencer (incidentally called Mobius_ no relation) with all sorts of c= ool outputs, so I try synching my edp's FROM it, (funny I never tried i= t before) And VERY WEIRD.. I get different numbers on both EDP's... The= y are both set the same, sync=3DIN.. but consistantly, one is showing 0.70 = and the other is 05.5 So different!!!

WHY!!!?????

I change the tempo up to 160 (my theor= y being that slower clock is wobblier.. ) and the same occurs. EDP 1 is =3D= .38 and EDP 2 is 03.1

WHY WHY WHY???


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<= u>Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
<= /font>
--20cf30563e178a6c4e04afff0f1e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 23 23:01:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DE28183462; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 23:01:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020207.4EA49CC7.0073,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=vUQgPkuIFdixsK0JqVXPakYPX3myWQVfjt2/U8ie43s= c=1 sm=1 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:17 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=ip9h0cCzjuFvOXPuWG4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=3HbXf-bwSOWeJ6b15v4A:9 a=ti2PCplxHMoNWw_1E5IA:7 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Clayton Gary Lehmann" To: References: Subject: RE: More EDP synch woes! Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 16:01:14 -0700 Message-ID: <59B28F790DBE40EAB05659DCA25AF88A@your0548c161e1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00CD_01CC919C.FDE300E0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcyR1XOTH76FPGJjR86X8EY2M1zH3QAAgMWw In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112539 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 23:01:29 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00CD_01CC919C.FDE300E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Original message From: markfrancombe@gmail.com [mailto:markfrancombe@gmail.com] On Behalf Of mark francombe Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 3:45 PM To: loopers-delight Subject: More EDP synch woes! WHY WHY WHY??? That's one thing about the 'Rang III- And I imagine the LP-1, and the Electrix Repeater- Rock solid synch! ------=_NextPart_000_00CD_01CC919C.FDE300E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Original message =

From: markfrancombe@gmail.com [mailto:markfrancombe@gmail.com] =

On Behalf Of = mark francombe
Sent: Sunday, October 23, = 2011 3:45 PM
To: loopers-delight
Subject: More EDP synch = woes!

 

<snip>

WHY WHY = WHY???

That’s one thing = about the ‘Rang III—

And I imagine the LP-1, and the Electrix = Repeater—

Rock solid synch!

------=_NextPart_000_00CD_01CC919C.FDE300E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 00:21:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 52C80183460; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 00:21:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=8UYL16fH2jPE2vFpLISyR4sADv8jTqgn5VFfYwL63po=; b=t9Nl+jwDZCO12AYKZUGhCm4igFLs5pbiSiu01SlCtHFk4O/GVoGb4Or+zmSvxkj3kl J9Wd5a6tqUO0LfI/2reSM9LZJGqkK6HFoX1joGVwkXU7Vt3wBtEIzmSJgnF1Dcmf1B7L VnRuGJXqhVf0qXdwvcbUBGCE+a1kHGCdMGNR8= From: Christopher Darrow Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--341427095 Subject: Re: Pedalboard friendly splitters and mixers? Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 17:21:12 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112540 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 00:21:18 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--341427095 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Radio Design Labs, super small, good quality (low noise, etc) but you = wire yourself. Easy, helps it be small.=20 http://www.rdlnet.com/ I have some from my previous rig I could possibly sell---kinda just = hanging onto them so far just because they're so useful and specific = should the need arise again.=20 Note, get a multi-power supply because if you have to get a wall wort = for each of 'em it defeats the purpose of taking up almost no space.=20 ---Christopher On Oct 23, 2011, at 2:56 PM, Mike Fugazzi wrote: > I use a M13. = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DSZEiGB5AzsU&feature=3Dyoutube_gdata_playe= r >=20 > Between that, the Rang, and the Bass Driver DI, I can split and send = in all sorts of ways. I tend to send an uneffected signal to my amp and = one from the DI to my monitor. Right now, all my effects from the M13 = go through the looper, amp, and monitor. >=20 > Sent from my phone, >=20 > Mike >=20 > On Oct 23, 2011 3:51 PM, "Mark Hamburg" wrote: > Gee, let me simplify my rig down to a pedalboard and ditch the rack... = Hmm. Now as I accumulate boxes I have a desire for a complex signal path = to accommodate various options. So, as I try to rationalize it all, I'm = looking for advice on appropriate connective tissue for the rig. Here is = what I want to do: >=20 > Guitar -> A/B box -> "electric" chain -> stereo outs > -> "acoustic" chain -> stereo outs >=20 > Now, mix those stereo outs or have a loop selector that works at both = the front and back end of the loop since I don't plan to have both = chains active at once and I'd rather not have noise coming from the = inactive chain. >=20 > Okay. That stereo signal will probably feed into a Strymon TimeLine. >=20 > Then I need to split it off to a couple of loopers (and possibly a = straight through stereo signal). One of these loopers is probably the = Boomerang III. The other is likely to be a Line6 M9 for ambient = textures. Next problem: The Line6 has no good way to mute the through = signal. Advice here is also welcome. >=20 > Then I need to mix the outputs from the loopers (and possibly a = straight signal) and then feed that into a reverb unit. >=20 > So, the points in the chain where I need advice are: >=20 > 1. Either a simple stereo mixer to handle the two guitar chains or = better yet an A/B loop selector that supports mono-in and stereo-out. > 2. A two or three way stereo splitter to feed the loopers. > 3. A two or three way mixer to bring the loopers back together. > 4. A way to deal with the fact that the Line6 M9 has no way to mute = the through signal and just let me process the looper. >=20 > Even in a rack mount context with my various Mackie mixer, the = frequency with which things need to happen in stereo is a bit daunting. = On the other hand, I really just need basic splitting and mixing. >=20 > Mark >=20 > P.S. Is anyone interested in a Line6 M13? Great unit, but excessively = big in this context. >=20 --Apple-Mail-1--341427095 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii http://www.rdlnet.com/

<= /div>
I have some from my previous rig I could possibly sell---kinda = just hanging onto them so far just because they're so useful and = specific should the need arise = again. 

Note, get a multi-power supply = because if you have to get a wall wort for each of 'em it defeats the = purpose of taking up almost no = space. 

---Christopher

<= br>
On Oct 23, 2011, at 2:56 PM, Mike Fugazzi wrote:

I use a = M13.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DSZEiGB5AzsU&feature=3D= youtube_gdata_player

Between that, the Rang, and the Bass = Driver DI, I can split and send in all sorts of ways.  I tend to = send an uneffected signal to my amp and one from the DI to my = monitor.  Right now, all my effects from the M13 go through the = looper, amp, and monitor.

Sent from my phone,

Mike

On Oct 23, 2011 3:51 PM, "Mark Hamburg" = <mark@grubmah.com> = wrote:
Gee, let me simplify my rig down to a pedalboard and ditch the rack... = Hmm. Now as I accumulate boxes I have a desire for a complex signal path = to accommodate various options. So, as I try to rationalize it all, I'm = looking for advice on appropriate connective tissue for the rig. Here is = what I want to do:

Guitar -> A/B box -> "electric" chain -> stereo outs
                    =            -> "acoustic" chain -> = stereo outs

Now, mix those stereo outs or have a loop selector that works at both = the front and back end of the loop since I don't plan to have both = chains active at once and I'd rather not have noise coming from the = inactive chain.

Okay. That stereo signal will probably feed into a Strymon TimeLine.

Then I need to split it off to a couple of loopers (and possibly a = straight through stereo signal). One of these loopers is probably the = Boomerang III. The other is likely to be a Line6 M9 for ambient = textures. Next problem: The Line6 has no good way to mute the through = signal. Advice here is also welcome.

Then I need to mix the outputs from the loopers (and possibly a straight = signal) and then feed that into a reverb unit.

So, the points in the chain where I need advice are:

1. Either a simple stereo mixer to handle the two guitar chains or = better yet an A/B loop selector that supports mono-in and = stereo-out.
2. A two or three way stereo splitter to feed the loopers.
3. A two or three way mixer to bring the loopers back together.
4. A way to deal with the fact that the Line6 M9 has no way to mute the = through signal and just let me process the looper.

Even in a rack mount context with my various Mackie mixer, the frequency = with which things need to happen in stereo is a bit daunting. On the = other hand, I really just need basic splitting and mixing.

Mark

P.S. Is anyone interested in a Line6 M13? Great unit, but excessively = big in this context.


= --Apple-Mail-1--341427095-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 00:29:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3A92183460; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 00:29:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Ed Durbrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4E92FC64.7080901@aol.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--340907055 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT: 5/4 challenge Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 09:29:52 +0900 References: <4E92FC64.7080901@aol.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-VirusScan: Outbound; msa02b; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 09:29:53 +0900 Resent-Message-ID: <_knD7.A.A6G.EGLpOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112541 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 00:29:56 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--340907055 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Oct 10, 2011, at 11:08 PM, chrisrover wrote: > For your kind consideration, live looping with drums > in 5/4 and more than five good reasons to do so: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkRBDZAJ3n0 That was some nice playing! The video was extremely creative. I assume a fairly low budget for video there. :-) Just very engaging. Well done. Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ --Apple-Mail-2--340907055 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Oct 10, 2011, = at 11:08 PM, chrisrover wrote:

For your kind = consideration, live looping with = drums
in 5/4 and more than five good reasons to do so:

http://www.youtube.c= om/watch?v=3DfkRBDZAJ3n0

That was some nice playing! The video was extremely = creative. I assume a fairly low budget for video there. :-) Just very = engaging. Well done.

= --Apple-Mail-2--340907055-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 01:03:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8722518345F; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 01:03:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=EjdL8ixwS8kAqqYiSzUwnwdI8tq+SDg51QTWVe+e+ME=; b=M8IB951soBgN+vS4hGloZtaeQLJiHSQZnc6F4ev+l9lS1mgUvxGV/n+32fPMm40ban OYbh5HKkKXxOS5d7J4vG0Zg4f3sMm1/hUQU/jn0hHKPG2mub6tt/itKd7kPvp7TdMnM1 m3c6Rsu7ScUiMErtOxenKUQce4+5NlhOXj0ps= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1B6199507BA14C789075D4FED588E8D0@your0548c161e1> <817EC5D2-6088-4E4D-9535-53E236D1E284@earthwormandfire.com> <24DF8009-B91F-4908-B4E1-BA7D3C12379A@trufun.com> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 18:03:40 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why...? From: Lindsey Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba613bf0577e7304b000fea8 Resent-Message-ID: <6bvuFD.A.aYH.tlLpOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112542 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 01:03:41 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba613bf0577e7304b000fea8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thank you, Per. I was going to prepare some sarcastic comment like, "I had no idea my motivating reason for looping was chicks. I always assumed I liked men. This realization will save me thousands on future psychiatry bills!" No offense is taken, at least, by me. I know that they were speaking from their point of view and weren't meaning to be exclusionary. Now that I've opened my big mouth... I loop for two reasons, wait no three. The first falls under the, "I don't need no stinkin' band" category. Looping presented itself as a solution to a problem I thought I had: no bandmates! Ironically, by being content as a one girl band, I've found other solitary bands that want to work together. How beautiful is that? The second is that I developed a fascination with the gear. The experience of experimenting, with no right or wrong answers, with instant results, has been super stimulting and rewarding. Last but not least, looping was love at first sight. I was totally delighted at the possibilites it presented. Loops have always been a theme in my life: whether it was loops of yarn when I used to teach knitting, spinning in circles doing hammer throw in college, or with sound. It's essential. Lindsey www.soundcloud.com/reklawysdnil On Oct 23, 2011 3:29 PM, "David Gans" wrote: > > > That's where being a songwriter is an advantage. I look down when I'm > looping, but when I am singing I am out there making contact. > > > > On Oct 23, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > > > girls dont like looper shoogazers they wanna be looked at! > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com > > --90e6ba613bf0577e7304b000fea8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thank you, Per.=A0 I was going to prepare some sarcastic comment like, &= quot;I had no idea my motivating reason for looping was chicks.=A0 I always= assumed I liked men.=A0 This realization will save me thousands on future = psychiatry bills!" No offense is taken, at least, by me.=A0 I know tha= t they were speaking from their point of view and weren't meaning to be= exclusionary.

Now that I've opened my big mouth...

I loop for two reasons, wait no three.=A0 The first falls under the, &qu= ot;I don't need no stinkin' band" category.=A0 Looping present= ed itself as a solution to a problem I thought I had: no bandmates!=A0 Iron= ically, by being content as a one girl band, I've found other solitary = bands that want to work together.=A0 How beautiful is that?

The second is that I developed a fascination with the gear.=A0 The exper= ience of experimenting, with no right or wrong answers, with instant result= s, has been super stimulting and rewarding.

Last but not least, looping was love at first sight.=A0 I was totally de= lighted at the possibilites it presented.=A0 Loops have always been a theme= in my life: whether it was loops of yarn when I used to teach knitting, sp= inning in circles doing hammer throw in college, or with sound.=A0 It's= essential.

Lindsey

www.soundcloud.com/re= klawysdnil

On Oct 23, 2011 3:29 PM, "David Gans" = <david@trufun.com> wrote:


That's where being a songwriter is an advantage. =A0I look down when I&= #39;m looping, but when I am singing I am out there making contact.



On Oct 23, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Louie Angulo wrote:

> girls dont like =A0looper shoogazers they wanna be looked at!

David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
Blog: =A0http:= //cloudsurfing.gdhour.com

--90e6ba613bf0577e7304b000fea8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 01:19:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 598A4183460; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 01:19:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4EA4BD10.1090604@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 18:19:12 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Hamburg CC: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Pedalboard friendly splitters and mixers? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070303020002080204000409" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112543 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 01:19:22 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070303020002080204000409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > 1. Either a simple stereo mixer to handle the two guitar chains or better yet an A/B loop selector that supports mono-in and stereo-out. wow, save yourself a lot of money and buy a Mackie 1402 VLZ board. two aux sends and insert points (potential effects loops) on 6 of the mic preamp channels with 8 more mono destinations give you oooogles of possibilities. So much control and a hell of lot less money. With all the splitters you risk constant cord failure and you will be taking up almost as much room as the mixing board. A 1202 will give you on aux send and insert points on 4 channerls and a smaller footprint. I'm just sayin' Mark. and, by the way, I've really missed your presence at the festival in the last couple of years. You should come back and play with your new rig in 2012 (assuming the world as we know it is still here ---- what with the impending Rapture and end of the Mayan calendar and the potential of Rick Perry as president, who the hell knows, right? lol. and, additionally, take a look at a device called the Loop Mangler. It's a joy stick with two effects loops that you can mix the volumes of each entire chain........its very, very cool.........one's between my two pedal boards now (bass board and treble board). --------------070303020002080204000409 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote:
1. Either a simple stereo mixer to handle the two guitar chains or better yet an A/B loop selector that supports mono-in and stereo-out.
wow,  save yourself a lot of money and
buy a Mackie 1402 VLZ board.

two aux sends and insert points (potential effects loops)
on 6 of the mic preamp channels with 8 more mono destinations
give you oooogles of possibilities.

So much control and a hell of lot less money.

With all the splitters  you risk constant cord failure and you will be taking
up almost as much room as the mixing board.

A 1202 will give you on aux send and insert points on 4 channerls and a smaller
footprint.

I'm just sayin' Mark.

and, by the way,  I've really missed your presence at the festival in the last couple of
years.   You should come back and play with your new rig in 2012 (assuming the world
as we know it is still here  ---- what with the impending Rapture and end of the Mayan
calendar and the potential of Rick Perry as president,  who the hell knows, right?    lol.

and, additionally,  take a look at a device called the Loop Mangler.
It's a joy stick with two effects loops that you can mix the volumes of each entire
chain........its very, very cool.........one's between my two pedal boards now (bass board
and treble board).

--------------070303020002080204000409-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 01:21:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97B8C18345D; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 01:21:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4EA4BD77.6000402@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 18:20:55 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Louie Angulo CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Why...? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112544 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 01:21:03 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > girls dont like looper shoogazers they wanna be looked at! But Luis, I always have mirrors on the tips of my shoes at all the shoegazer concerts I perform, so I'm good. r. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 01:22:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D1E5183460; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 01:22:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4EA4BDD5.3030808@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 18:22:29 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Why...? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112545 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 01:22:36 +0000 (UTC) and a thought............any women loopers getting a bit turned off by this male dominated silliness? r. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 01:55:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C5FF183460; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 01:55:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-WS-COS: WSOB803 X-Cloudmark-Category: Undefined:Undefined X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=hr4h1/zkXYERSJ2EStLXlJ9v/X1e5ATtVUFVM9Abuxk= c=1 sm=0 a=PS5YPsqztb8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=oTtuw1C_AAAA:8 a=-yyyXQUG7JuZMt5QNMEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=pQ2a0EFxmsAA:10 a=OHdvPF6+MnTcyuqLz7qlFw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Subject: Re: Why...? References: <4EA4BDD5.3030808@cruzio.com> From: chaz worm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8L1) In-Reply-To: <4EA4BDD5.3030808@cruzio.com> Message-Id: <6E067D95-46D5-478A-800D-ABA76ADD422A@earthwormandfire.com> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 21:55:22 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8L1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112546 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 01:55:30 +0000 (UTC) Im sorry if my comments were mistaken for silliness. I'm a silly guy. Everyt= hing I do is silly (I'm looping old punk rock songs on a minstrel banjo). Bu= t rest assured I'm not being silly or misogynistic in my statements. Just a d= eep self aware analysis.=20 I'm happily married now. I quit performing live music for a bit. I've got my= chick quota. I just like being silly for an audience and stand up comedy is= too hard.=20 Chaz Worm - singer, bass, banjo Earth, Worm & Fire http://myspace.com/earthwormandfire http://YouTube.com/ChazWorm On Oct 23, 2011, at 9:22 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > and a thought............any women loopers getting a bit turned off by thi= s male dominated silliness? >=20 > r. >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 02:01:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B04F183460; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 02:01:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-WS-COS: WSOB803 X-Cloudmark-Category: Undefined:Undefined X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=ItSgKUvEgpuArvFeGcEX9ho8h0+4pTt73K5WgrMP114= c=1 sm=0 a=PS5YPsqztb8A:10 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=myP459r3AAAA:8 a=eYYImZmqAAAA:8 a=0xmcyeG7AAAA:8 a=fNY0mkcEdNqndA2xSWwA:9 a=v17wd11ZxsfW0q_H3PAA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=R1qc3nVtuvoA:10 a=V9OP79lusOsA:10 a=39iu6fu_TyCGF2CujhYA:9 a=aR6tRiBqFMo0MHQiKJ4A:7 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=Q77yQCEAaOEA:10 a=OHdvPF6+MnTcyuqLz7qlFw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Subject: Re: Why...? References: <1B6199507BA14C789075D4FED588E8D0@your0548c161e1> <817EC5D2-6088-4E4D-9535-53E236D1E284@earthwormandfire.com> <24DF8009-B91F-4908-B4E1-BA7D3C12379A@trufun.com> From: chaz worm Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--335396845 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8L1) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <6228B276-6E57-4C8B-85C4-5DA02D7E8C84@earthwormandfire.com> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 22:01:42 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8L1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112547 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 02:01:50 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--335396845 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I hope you didn't take offense to my statements Lindsey. I didn't mean to sp= eak for anyone but myself.=20 I closely identify with your reasons too. I just like being brutally frank a= nd selling off all my musician guy friends who have their girlfriends thinki= ng they are deeper than your average guy.=20 As for myself, not only am I not deeper than your average guy, I'm remarkabl= y shallow.=20 Chaz Worm - singer, bass, banjo Earth, Worm & Fire http://myspace.com/earthwormandfire http://YouTube.com/ChazWorm On Oct 23, 2011, at 9:03 PM, Lindsey Walker wrote= : > Thank you, Per. I was going to prepare some sarcastic comment like, "I ha= d no idea my motivating reason for looping was chicks. I always assumed I l= iked men. This realization will save me thousands on future psychiatry bill= s!" No offense is taken, at least, by me. I know that they were speaking fr= om their point of view and weren't meaning to be exclusionary. >=20 > Now that I've opened my big mouth... >=20 > I loop for two reasons, wait no three. The first falls under the, "I don'= t need no stinkin' band" category. Looping presented itself as a solution t= o a problem I thought I had: no bandmates! Ironically, by being content as a= one girl band, I've found other solitary bands that want to work together. = How beautiful is that? >=20 > The second is that I developed a fascination with the gear. The experienc= e of experimenting, with no right or wrong answers, with instant results, ha= s been super stimulting and rewarding. >=20 > Last but not least, looping was love at first sight. I was totally deligh= ted at the possibilites it presented. Loops have always been a theme in my l= ife: whether it was loops of yarn when I used to teach knitting, spinning in= circles doing hammer throw in college, or with sound. It's essential. >=20 > Lindsey >=20 > www.soundcloud.com/reklawysdnil >=20 > On Oct 23, 2011 3:29 PM, "David Gans" wrote: >=20 >=20 > That's where being a songwriter is an advantage. I look down when I'm loo= ping, but when I am singing I am out there making contact. >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Oct 23, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: >=20 > > girls dont like looper shoogazers they wanna be looked at! >=20 > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com >=20 --Apple-Mail-1--335396845 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
I hope you didn't take offense to my st= atements Lindsey. I didn't mean to speak for anyone but myself. 
<= div>I closely identify with your reasons too. I just like being brutally fra= nk and selling off all my musician guy friends who have their girlfriends th= inking they are deeper than your average guy. 
As for myself,= not only am I not deeper than your average guy, I'm remarkably shallow.&nbs= p;

Chaz Worm - singer, bass, banjo
Earth, Worm & Fire
http://myspace.com/earthw= ormandfire

On Oct 23, 2011,= at 9:03 PM, Lindsey Walker <= lindsey.walker@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you, Per.  I was going to prepare some sarca= stic comment like, "I had no idea my motivating reason for looping was chick= s.  I always assumed I liked men.  This realization will save me t= housands on future psychiatry bills!" No offense is taken, at least, by me.&= nbsp; I know that they were speaking from their point of view and weren't me= aning to be exclusionary.

Now that I've opened my big mouth...

I loop for two reasons, wait no three.  The first falls under the, "= I don't need no stinkin' band" category.  Looping presented itself as a= solution to a problem I thought I had: no bandmates!  Ironically, by b= eing content as a one girl band, I've found other solitary bands that want t= o work together.  How beautiful is that?

The second is that I developed a fascination with the gear.  The exp= erience of experimenting, with no right or wrong answers, with instant resul= ts, has been super stimulting and rewarding.

Last but not least, looping was love at first sight.  I was totally d= elighted at the possibilites it presented.  Loops have always been a th= eme in my life: whether it was loops of yarn when I used to teach knitting, s= pinning in circles doing hammer throw in college, or with sound.  It's e= ssential.

Lindsey

www.soundcloud.com/reklawysdnil

On Oct 23, 2011 3:29 PM, "David Gans" <david@trufu= n.com> wrote:


That's where being a songwriter is an advantage.  I look down when I'm l= ooping, but when I am singing I am out there making contact.



On Oct 23, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Louie Angulo wrote:

> girls dont like  looper shoogazers they wanna be looked at!

David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
Blog:  http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com

= --Apple-Mail-1--335396845-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 02:19:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B330918345C; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 02:19:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=YjX2PqsbMC2PofBTswNZjg01vuUMV22fbbqtpNzjYOY=; b=YfjP2uUTPVX+osOC7VQVPtoR5EfkiuOemNS3sDBCxMD7ybyp7tKPKgvnlF9SePNTBl let74/rNQ8UH7bxtcD6XUkg+suC9Jr2W7CwCEO8BF3zPXVz6k6SQPb9bgbh7Ana5TV6R E8fGGmAl7EIdvYyOAfggh3Q4P0mMHa6ssTP5w= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6228B276-6E57-4C8B-85C4-5DA02D7E8C84@earthwormandfire.com> References: <1B6199507BA14C789075D4FED588E8D0@your0548c161e1> <817EC5D2-6088-4E4D-9535-53E236D1E284@earthwormandfire.com> <24DF8009-B91F-4908-B4E1-BA7D3C12379A@trufun.com> <6228B276-6E57-4C8B-85C4-5DA02D7E8C84@earthwormandfire.com> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 19:19:02 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why...? From: Lindsey Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba613bf0e3413504b0020b79 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112548 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 02:19:03 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba613bf0e3413504b0020b79 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Chaz, we're cool. Words, while well infused with consentual meaning, are a violent substitution for concepts and often leave something to be desired. Lindsey On Oct 23, 2011 7:01 PM, "chaz worm" wrote: > I hope you didn't take offense to my statements Lindsey. I didn't mean to > speak for anyone but myself. > I closely identify with your reasons too. I just like being brutally frank > and selling off all my musician guy friends who have their girlfriends > thinking they are deeper than your average guy. > As for myself, not only am I not deeper than your average guy, I'm > remarkably shallow. > > Chaz Worm - singer, bass, banjo > Earth, Worm & Fire > http://myspace.com/earthwormandfire > http://YouTube.com/ChazWorm > > > On Oct 23, 2011, at 9:03 PM, Lindsey Walker > wrote: > > Thank you, Per. I was going to prepare some sarcastic comment like, "I had > no idea my motivating reason for looping was chicks. I always assumed I > liked men. This realization will save me thousands on future psychiatry > bills!" No offense is taken, at least, by me. I know that they were > speaking from their point of view and weren't meaning to be exclusionary. > > Now that I've opened my big mouth... > > I loop for two reasons, wait no three. The first falls under the, "I don't > need no stinkin' band" category. Looping presented itself as a solution to > a problem I thought I had: no bandmates! Ironically, by being content as a > one girl band, I've found other solitary bands that want to work together. > How beautiful is that? > > The second is that I developed a fascination with the gear. The experience > of experimenting, with no right or wrong answers, with instant results, has > been super stimulting and rewarding. > > Last but not least, looping was love at first sight. I was totally > delighted at the possibilites it presented. Loops have always been a theme > in my life: whether it was loops of yarn when I used to teach knitting, > spinning in circles doing hammer throw in college, or with sound. It's > essential. > > Lindsey > > www.soundcloud.com/reklawysdnil > On Oct 23, 2011 3:29 PM, "David Gans" wrote: > >> >> >> That's where being a songwriter is an advantage. I look down when I'm >> looping, but when I am singing I am out there making contact. >> >> >> >> On Oct 23, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: >> >> > girls dont like looper shoogazers they wanna be looked at! >> >> David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com >> Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com >> >> --90e6ba613bf0e3413504b0020b79 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Chaz, we're cool.=A0 Words, while well infused with consentual meani= ng, are a violent substitution for concepts and often leave something to be= desired.

Lindsey

On Oct 23, 2011 7:01 PM, "chaz worm" &= lt;chaz@earthwormandfire.com> wrote:
I hope you didn't take offense to my stat= ements Lindsey. I didn't mean to speak for anyone but myself.=A0
<= div>I closely identify with your reasons too. I just like being brutally fr= ank and selling off all my musician guy friends who have their girlfriends = thinking they are deeper than your average guy.=A0

On Oct 23, 2011,= at 9:03 PM, Lindsey Walker <lindsey.walker@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you, Per.=A0 I= was going to prepare some sarcastic comment like, "I had no idea my m= otivating reason for looping was chicks.=A0 I always assumed I liked men.= =A0 This realization will save me thousands on future psychiatry bills!&quo= t; No offense is taken, at least, by me.=A0 I know that they were speaking = from their point of view and weren't meaning to be exclusionary.

Now that I've opened my big mouth...

I loop for two reasons, wait no three.=A0 The first falls under the, &qu= ot;I don't need no stinkin' band" category.=A0 Looping present= ed itself as a solution to a problem I thought I had: no bandmates!=A0 Iron= ically, by being content as a one girl band, I've found other solitary = bands that want to work together.=A0 How beautiful is that?

The second is that I developed a fascination with the gear.=A0 The exper= ience of experimenting, with no right or wrong answers, with instant result= s, has been super stimulting and rewarding.

Last but not least, looping was love at first sight.=A0 I was totally de= lighted at the possibilites it presented.=A0 Loops have always been a theme= in my life: whether it was loops of yarn when I used to teach knitting, sp= inning in circles doing hammer throw in college, or with sound.=A0 It's= essential.

Lindsey

www.sound= cloud.com/reklawysdnil

On Oct 23, 2011 3:29 PM, "David Gans" = <david@trufun.com> wrote:


That's where being a songwriter is an advantage. =A0I look down when I&= #39;m looping, but when I am singing I am out there making contact.



On Oct 23, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Louie Angulo wrote:

> girls dont like =A0looper shoogazers they wanna be looked at!

David Gans - david@trufun.com or = david@gdhour.com
Blog: =A0http://cloudsurfing= .gdhour.com

--90e6ba613bf0e3413504b0020b79-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 05:46:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4A4C183460; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 05:46:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 05:46:20 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 00:45:58 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Abandoned Radio and Dr. Smith's bench photo essays on Flickr Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Experimental Film Discussion List Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112549 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 05:46:20 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, Abandoned Radio http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157627839845825/ At the end of a long weekend (filled with nature photography) at the family lakefront cottage, I spotted an interesting collection of junk (an ancient radio, wiring, and items of undetermined purpose) sitting atop fallen leaves by the side of the road. The arrangement intrigued me, and it seemed perfect for my "Ugly Beauty" theme, so I took about two dozen photos, most of which you see here. Dr. Smith's Bench http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157627964376972/ On the day after I shot the "Abandoned Radio" essay, I made my monthly visit to my chiropractor (Dr. Smith). Upon leaving his office, I noticed that the bench on the landing to the building was getting excellent light, and the unusual design of the bench provided interesting shadows and texture. I took about two dozen photos, most of which you see here. BTW Some of my videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld -- "I rang a silent bell ..." -- Robert Hunter "... cast your dancing spell my way, I promise to go under it" -- Bob Dylan From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 06:54:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1DA4183460; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 06:54:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Pedalboard friendly splitters and mixers? From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 23:54:43 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9C151CE2-232F-4625-B292-AFD69D5F0B18@grubmah.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112550 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 06:54:46 +0000 (UTC) On Oct 23, 2011, at 12:51 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > 1. Either a simple stereo mixer to handle the two guitar chains or = better yet an A/B loop selector that supports mono-in and stereo-out. The answer to this one looks to be the Loop-Master Clean/Dirty (stereo). = Anyone familiar with their work? http://www.loop-master.com/product_info.php?cPath=3D24&products_id=3D244 Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 07:43:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E510183460; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 07:42:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=fjBXxjzXCVQ0CKslj8nS8SylzznbYd2W1OrDuqkk1TY=; b=vo947z5aS316l8L6uLGxAdVW1+gvD69sOQR0aEXZybVfBmEWZBe1ZbnH/W6T8vBFKf Yk6LwUU1dMe9Enb2wr5OluycMPlDvcRPL3DVWWGUS0auQUiPSbxMtWXi7lDZpCDw4fNV cfry8CVPozjEjd89aQl6zO/VSHa/lgWlPK8aA= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Pedalboard friendly splitters and mixers? From: Phil Clevenger In-Reply-To: <9C151CE2-232F-4625-B292-AFD69D5F0B18@grubmah.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 00:42:49 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <9C151CE2-232F-4625-B292-AFD69D5F0B18@grubmah.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112551 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 07:42:59 +0000 (UTC) Their stuff takes ages to arrive ;) Phil :) On Oct 23, 2011, at 11:54 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > On Oct 23, 2011, at 12:51 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: >=20 >> 1. Either a simple stereo mixer to handle the two guitar chains or = better yet an A/B loop selector that supports mono-in and stereo-out. >=20 > The answer to this one looks to be the Loop-Master Clean/Dirty = (stereo). Anyone familiar with their work? >=20 > http://www.loop-master.com/product_info.php?cPath=3D24&products_id=3D244= >=20 > Mark >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 08:08:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CF3318345F; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:08:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lFny+1Uj8Q9qWhqHyWJwZm3CUcJic0QTU4httkoepgs=; b=rFMYvfrjMt6rn+WnZjZxw1lLe86xNb5lBCZOOtTb4V8SQUAO5lxkP4fuUSeyioo/dZ oyP+DtL7XAZN4uQkMXfOvyBbrmLkaOLNLqOIenb+my85vPtfjAjnAuubwfdLjynd7suG fbdB+5Okd892guFTgKGoHXLlnZRtZNUBzfdGU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1B6199507BA14C789075D4FED588E8D0@your0548c161e1> <817EC5D2-6088-4E4D-9535-53E236D1E284@earthwormandfire.com> <24DF8009-B91F-4908-B4E1-BA7D3C12379A@trufun.com> <6228B276-6E57-4C8B-85C4-5DA02D7E8C84@earthwormandfire.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:08:08 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why...? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112552 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:08:08 +0000 (UTC) Lindsey just silling around dont take it seriously no offenses meant say Gary do harmonica players really steal all the chicks? jeez how stupid have male guitarrists been carrying all those heavy 100 watt amps and putting spandex on:-) On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Lindsey Walker wrote: > Chaz, we're cool.=A0 Words, while well infused with consentual meaning, a= re a > violent substitution for concepts and often leave something to be desired= . > > Lindsey > > On Oct 23, 2011 7:01 PM, "chaz worm" wrote: >> >> I hope you didn't take offense to my statements Lindsey. I didn't mean t= o >> speak for anyone but myself. >> I closely identify with your reasons too. I just like being brutally fra= nk >> and selling off all my musician guy friends who have their girlfriends >> thinking they are deeper than your average guy. >> As for myself, not only am I not deeper than your average guy, I'm >> remarkably shallow. >> >> Chaz Worm - singer, bass, banjo >> Earth, Worm & Fire >> http://myspace.com/earthwormandfire >> http://YouTube.com/ChazWorm >> >> >> On Oct 23, 2011, at 9:03 PM, Lindsey Walker >> wrote: >> >> Thank you, Per.=A0 I was going to prepare some sarcastic comment like, "= I >> had no idea my motivating reason for looping was chicks.=A0 I always ass= umed I >> liked men.=A0 This realization will save me thousands on future psychiat= ry >> bills!" No offense is taken, at least, by me.=A0 I know that they were >> speaking from their point of view and weren't meaning to be exclusionary= . >> >> Now that I've opened my big mouth... >> >> I loop for two reasons, wait no three.=A0 The first falls under the, "I >> don't need no stinkin' band" category.=A0 Looping presented itself as a >> solution to a problem I thought I had: no bandmates!=A0 Ironically, by b= eing >> content as a one girl band, I've found other solitary bands that want to >> work together.=A0 How beautiful is that? >> >> The second is that I developed a fascination with the gear.=A0 The >> experience of experimenting, with no right or wrong answers, with instan= t >> results, has been super stimulting and rewarding. >> >> Last but not least, looping was love at first sight.=A0 I was totally >> delighted at the possibilites it presented.=A0 Loops have always been a = theme >> in my life: whether it was loops of yarn when I used to teach knitting, >> spinning in circles doing hammer throw in college, or with sound.=A0 It'= s >> essential. >> >> Lindsey >> >> www.soundcloud.com/reklawysdnil >> >> On Oct 23, 2011 3:29 PM, "David Gans" wrote: >>> >>> >>> That's where being a songwriter is an advantage. =A0I look down when I'= m >>> looping, but when I am singing I am out there making contact. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 23, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: >>> >>> > girls dont like =A0looper shoogazers they wanna be looked at! >>> >>> David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com >>> Blog: =A0http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com >>> > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 10:07:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9CA0183460; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:07:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 682755879/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.189.24/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.189.24 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnMCAIIdpU5V0r0Y/2dsb2JhbAAMN5oQkXMBAQEDAThABgsLIRYPCQMCAQIBRRwBh3yzJohABJkijEM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,397,1315177200"; d="scan'208";a="682755879" Message-ID: <4EA53902.4050706@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:08:02 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: More EDP synch woes! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112553 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:07:55 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: > And VERY WEIRD.. I get > different numbers on both EDP's... They are both set the same, sync=IN.. > but consistantly, one is showing 0.70 and the other is 05.5 So different!!! > > WHY!!!????? > > I change the tempo up to 160 (my theory being that slower clock is > wobblier.. ) and the same occurs. EDP 1 is =.38 and EDP 2 is 03.1 > > WHY WHY WHY??? only if you promise not to call me a smug git in the case that this turns out to be right ;-) EDP 1 has 8th/Cycle = 1 EDP 2 8th/cycle = 8 andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 10:31:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C30E183462; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:31:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=M7wD3WDUuzkVEiWT4qBfhLTs0eI90AfVSEq6VgLswR4=; b=D8t6pI+fKXk+5OjH3cP3OI9oZk+WNCmfwtthHQSU1cVERH+lFEFoXirESxix0AtFtZ MUUzmjRCacRFfXioUdh9Bu78Bvp7fwNdlaCAw1f2GBNhlkPMG1I3g/tAxg0uF5qHKret LtLIZAx/RhPcSYziXjbh4lVFalZmj4cf3RICM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <4E92FC64.7080901@aol.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:31:39 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: 5/4 challenge From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112554 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:31:40 +0000 (UTC) loved it! :O) On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 1:29 AM, Ed Durbrow wrot= e: > > On Oct 10, 2011, at 11:08 PM, chrisrover wrote: > > For your kind consideration,=A0live looping with drums > in 5/4 and more than five good reasons to do so: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfkRBDZAJ3n0 > > That was some nice playing! The video was extremely creative. I assume a > fairly low budget for video there. :-) Just very engaging. Well done. > > Ed Durbrow > Saitama, Japan > http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ > http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 10:50:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B673E183461; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:50:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=4V1r5oBCCLRxOfoCo66PDzNbLrkuRGa1BehbE8opEzg=; b=uWtj3U6TSblFPMYV2UOqyovrXpRtOVLyWvJ8Yn2kcqalY5Dqo+Qv+058X2jLdDK2WL DMEZ0aahaJLenuoGYoMXovjNCr1CrOSULkO/Ifheebax9K/zWuFXykW0uPBtElAK1LrE 9LRO8Rft+OTWgUiXOpQZzBPdCeni06lo+KqWE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4EA53902.4050706@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4EA53902.4050706@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:50:16 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: _Al6eV2jrRwF3smOXX9WOYavwSE Message-ID: Subject: Re: More EDP synch woes! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3010e9515af77e04b0093161 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112555 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:50:36 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3010e9515af77e04b0093161 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I would never call you that Andy! I will check that, (incidentaly, do I have setting correct for midi IN sync.. If EDP1 is Brothered to EDP2 and the midi clock is going to EDP1, then do I have EDP1 set to IN and EDP2 to OUT? or both IN?) but during SYNC = IN, What is the the display showing actually, when in reset? Is it the length of a loop at the currently set tempo that its receiveing? because isnt that the same whatever the 8th setting? If Im sending EDP 120bpm. then I can't get my first loop (cycle) to be anything less than one measure right? In fact I was gonna mention this to those developing Ecoloop (Grob etc) that a very cool option would be to be able to divide the incoming tempo info from a clock to some division. I for one usually run my EDP very fast, routinely having 32 cycles in a bar (I guess in a LaFosse stylee) even if it doesnt sound like it, This is difficult when receiving clock from another person. I cant exactly ask them to send twice the tempo, when they have done all this preparatory work in Abelton for example... Mark On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 12:08 PM, andy butler wrote: > mark francombe wrote: > > > And VERY WEIRD.. I get different numbers on both EDP's... They are both >> set the same, sync=IN.. but consistantly, one is showing 0.70 and the other >> is 05.5 So different!!! >> >> WHY!!!????? >> >> I change the tempo up to 160 (my theory being that slower clock is >> wobblier.. ) and the same occurs. EDP 1 is =.38 and EDP 2 is 03.1 >> >> WHY WHY WHY??? >> > > only if you promise not to call me a smug git in the case > that this turns out to be right ;-) > > EDP 1 has > 8th/Cycle = 1 > EDP 2 > 8th/cycle = 8 > > > andy > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --20cf3010e9515af77e04b0093161 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would never call you that Andy!

I will check that,=A0 (incidentaly= , do I have setting correct for midi IN sync.. If EDP1 is Brothered to EDP2= =A0 and the midi clock is going to EDP1, then do I have EDP1 set to IN and = EDP2 to OUT? or both IN?)
but during SYNC =3D IN, What is the the display showing actually, when in r= eset?
Is it the length of a loop at the currently set tempo that its rec= eiveing? because isnt that the same whatever the 8th setting?

If Im = sending EDP 120bpm. then I can't get my first loop (cycle) to be anythi= ng less than one measure right?

In fact I was gonna mention this to those developing Ecoloop (Grob etc)= that a very cool option would be to be able to divide the incoming tempo i= nfo from a clock to some division. I for one usually run my EDP very fast, = routinely having 32 cycles in a bar (I guess in a LaFosse stylee) even if i= t doesnt sound like it, This is difficult when receiving clock from another= person. I cant exactly ask them to send twice the tempo, when they have do= ne all this preparatory work in Abelton for example...


Mark






On Mon, = Oct 24, 2011 at 12:08 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
=
mark francombe wrote:


And VERY WEIRD.. I get different numbers on both EDP's... They are both= set the same, sync=3DIN.. but consistantly, one is showing 0.70 and the ot= her is 05.5 So different!!!

WHY!!!?????

I change the tempo up to 160 (my theory being that slower clock is wobblier= .. ) and the same occurs. EDP 1 is =3D.38 and EDP 2 is 03.1

WHY WHY WHY???

only if you promise not to call me a smug git in the case
that this turns out to be right ;-)

EDP 1 has
8th/Cycle =3D 1
EDP 2
8th/cycle =3D 8


andy




--
M= ark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
<= /font>
--20cf3010e9515af77e04b0093161-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 11:05:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E90E0183460; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:05:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:05:32 UTC Message-ID: <8A02DAB4592847069FA903E4C8AAAFC3@itowork2> From: "Ingo Ito" To: References: Subject: Re: Pedalboard friendly splitters and mixers? Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:58:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006E_01CC924C.A6DA5CC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112556 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:05:32 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01CC924C.A6DA5CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I own one box from this guy: www.loooper.com and he builds nearly every = possible combination of splitting/send-return/ etc., and it=B4s very = good quality - have a look. Ingo ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Phil Clevenger=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 9:42 AM Subject: Re: Pedalboard friendly splitters and mixers? Their stuff takes ages to arrive ;) Phil :) On Oct 23, 2011, at 11:54 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > On Oct 23, 2011, at 12:51 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: >=20 >> 1. Either a simple stereo mixer to handle the two guitar chains or = better yet an A/B loop selector that supports mono-in and stereo-out. >=20 > The answer to this one looks to be the Loop-Master Clean/Dirty = (stereo). Anyone familiar with their work? >=20 > = http://www.loop-master.com/product_info.php?cPath=3D24&products_id=3D244 >=20 > Mark >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01CC924C.A6DA5CC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
I own one box from this guy: www.loooper.com and he builds = nearly=20 every possible combination of splitting/send-return/ etc., and it=B4s = very good=20 quality - have a look.
 
Ingo
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Phil=20 Clevenger
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 = 9:42=20 AM
Subject: Re: Pedalboard = friendly=20 splitters and mixers?

Their stuff takes ages to arrive ;)

Phil = :)

On=20 Oct 23, 2011, at 11:54 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote:

> On Oct 23, = 2011, at=20 12:51 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote:
>
>> 1. Either a simple = stereo=20 mixer to handle the two guitar chains or better yet an A/B loop = selector that=20 supports mono-in and stereo-out.
>
> The answer to this = one looks=20 to be the Loop-Master Clean/Dirty (stereo). Anyone familiar with their = work?
>
> http://www.loop-master.com/product_info.php?cPath=3D24&p= roducts_id=3D244
>=20
> Mark
>
------=_NextPart_000_006E_01CC924C.A6DA5CC0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 11:53:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E66C9183463; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:53:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4EA551AD.6070101@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 04:53:17 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simeon Harris CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: OT: 5/4 challenge References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6lv1WB.A.ImH.2GVpOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112557 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:53:26 +0000 (UTC) >> On Oct 10, 2011, at 11:08 PM, chrisrover wrote: >> >> For your kind consideration, live looping with drums >> in 5/4 and more than five good reasons to do so: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBDZAJ3n0 >> >> >> >> Really enjoyed this: I want to go out and solo in 5/4 now but my beloved is asleep and the neighbors probably wouldn't take to kindly to it. Only one hour more to 5:55................I saw it on my clock 12 hours ago as I frequently do. Thanks, christian! ps great video too! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 12:02:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70A52183461; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:02:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4EA553C8.3070408@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 05:02:16 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LIVE LOOPING PROMO , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: 11 minute looping piece @ 11:11 on 11/11/11 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112558 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:02:24 +0000 (UTC) Here's what I propose: That everyone on this list who feels like it, sets up their live looping rig somewhere and on Friday, November 11th at either 11:11 a.m. or 11:11 p.m. they commence to play and record a live looping piece of music that last exactly 11 minutes long. Put an alarm clock up in front of you while you play. Then, put that improvisation up somewhere on the web (bandcamp, dropbox, yousendit, facebook, myspace, whatever) and let us all know where to find it. This will be an 11 minute piece of music on 11/11/11 at 11/11 a.m. or 11/11 p.m. wherever one lives. If anyone needs suggestions for interesting rhythms in 11/8 or 11/4, I'd be happy to oblige, but this is not necessary to make these pieces manifest and resonate. what do you all say? yours, rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 12:07:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 935FD183461; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:07:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=WVE/hh1T8OxZT0iDhZ/z9RhX3BgTV/dle6W1qG4nRRU=; b=DKS6BuzLzc8Nf9Mm8u1L9J9aNNjMnHowYyYO79G3qSS3gDstGLVB+u/QhJlyz85x8K wsDBo/zWMiziKl7NakO+QV2oZOm7KqI4HK1WzaYJsv7k1RwPeCdwFyssLmBugEGJEMIz Gh3W0zb/sYEROpLPH7uz7lQP5XLygqHz8E7ns= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4EA553C8.3070408@cruzio.com> References: <4EA553C8.3070408@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 14:07:14 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 11 minute looping piece @ 11:11 on 11/11/11 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ra=FCl_Bonell?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec520f53b7406ed04b00a431e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112559 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:07:15 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec520f53b7406ed04b00a431e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 what about a new Chain Tape collective release about it? Say, CT-11 :) Michaels? 2011/10/24 Rick Walker > Here's what I propose: > > > That everyone on this list who feels like it, > > sets up their live looping rig somewhere > and on Friday, November 11th at either > 11:11 a.m. or 11:11 p.m. > > they commence to > play and record a live looping piece of music > that last exactly 11 minutes long. Put an alarm clock > up in front of you while you play. > > Then, put that improvisation up somewhere on the web > (bandcamp, dropbox, yousendit, facebook, myspace, whatever) > > and let us all know where to find it. > > > This will be an 11 minute piece of music on 11/11/11 at 11/11 a.m. or > 11/11 p.m. > wherever one lives. > > > If anyone needs suggestions for interesting rhythms in 11/8 or 11/4, > I'd be happy to oblige, but this is not necessary to make these pieces > manifest and > resonate. > > what do you all say? > > yours, rick walker > > -- .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-..-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Your moral values are meaningless, artificial constructs. For your imagination, they provide you a falsely superior position in your social group. For the strong, they provide a means by which you are easily manipulated. In reality, they serve the entertainment needs of others. In the Kimatorium, they are irrelevant. Kim Flint .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com --bcaec520f53b7406ed04b00a431e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable what about a new Chain Tape collective release about it? Say, CT-11 :) Mich= aels?

2011/10/24 Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>= ;
Here's what I propose:


That everyone on this list who feels like it,

sets up their live looping rig somewhere
and on Friday, =A0November 11th at either
11:11 a.m. or 11:11 p.m.

they commence to
play and record a live looping piece of music
that last exactly 11 minutes long. =A0 =A0Put an alarm clock
up in front of you while you play.

Then, =A0 put that improvisation up somewhere on the web
(bandcamp, dropbox, yousendit, facebook, myspace, =A0whatever)

and let us all know where to find it.


This will be an 11 minute piece of music on 11/11/11 =A0at 11/11 a.m. or 11= /11 p.m.
wherever one lives.


If anyone needs suggestions for interesting rhythms in 11/8 =A0or 11/4,
I'd be happy to oblige, but this is not necessary to make these pieces = manifest and
resonate.

what do you all say?

yours, =A0 rick walker




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Your moral values are meaningless, artificial constructs. For your imagination,
they provide you a falsely superior position in your social group.

For the strong, they provide a means by which you are e= asily manipulated.

In reality, they serve the en= tertainment needs of others.

In the Kimatorium, they are irrelevant.


Kim= Flint

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--bcaec520f53b7406ed04b00a431e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 12:24:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57B41183461; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:24:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=uaHwwowAhQBmdOTvN4hCQf1TQaWKHQVx2e1NFkYdER0=; b=jKvslPcw1VVrEPYlmShizayGFqddM+IY1+ay/IjpPbCLh5t+4XKyHSh3eFusaMPUTt LbZF8ruIfg+GaOzkVwF69I/cUwHss9j2xUm5cgdgLkhhUqPmr7Iu7CrNUBJjtslahgC1 AuSbTdVTMVgQmDU+h3CDUVDAfUFwo6JwuK50Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4EA553C8.3070408@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 14:24:38 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 11 minute looping piece @ 11:11 on 11/11/11 From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf300fad0fb0877804b00a81e4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112560 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:24:40 +0000 (UTC) --20cf300fad0fb0877804b00a81e4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > what about a new Chain Tape collective release about it? Say, CT-11 :) Nice idea and yes.. Ct-Collective needs a new project ! Please, consider me in anyway. -f www.eterogeneo.com --20cf300fad0fb0877804b00a81e4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

what about a= new Chain Tape collective release about it? Say, CT-11 :)=A0
<= div>
Nice idea and yes..=A0Ct-Collective needs a new project !
<= div>Please, consider me in anyway.

-f
www.eterogeneo.com

--20cf300fad0fb0877804b00a81e4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 12:32:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B60818345F; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:32:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 682813095/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.189.24/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.189.24 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AloCAGU9pU5V0r0Y/2dsb2JhbAAMN5oTkXEBAQEBAgE4QAYLCyEWDwkDAgECAUUcAYd8szOIQASZIoxD X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,398,1315177200"; d="scan'208";a="682813095" Message-ID: <4EA55AF4.9030401@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:32:52 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: More EDP synch woes! References: <4EA53902.4050706@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112561 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:32:45 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: > I will check that, (incidentaly, do I have setting correct for midi IN > sync.. If EDP1 is Brothered to EDP2 and the midi clock is going to > EDP1, then do I have EDP1 set to IN and EDP2 to OUT? or both IN?) when both are receiving clock from another device both should be sync=In. Maybe it also works with edp2 having sync=Out, but I can't think of an advantage. (and i think it may drift) > but during SYNC = IN, What is the the display showing actually, when in > reset? the Cycle time, calculated from the incoming clock and the 8th/cycle value > Is it the length of a loop at the currently set tempo that its > receiveing? no, just the cycle > because isnt that the same whatever the 8th setting? no > > If Im sending EDP 120bpm. then I can't get my first loop (cycle) to be > anything less than one measure right? smallest is one beat, 8th cycle=1 > > In fact I was gonna mention this to those developing Ecoloop (Grob etc) > that a very cool option would be to be able to divide the incoming tempo > info from a clock to some division. I for one usually run my EDP very > fast, routinely having 32 cycles in a bar (I guess in a LaFosse stylee) > even if it doesnt sound like it, This is difficult when receiving clock > from another person. I cant exactly ask them to send twice the tempo, > when they have done all this preparatory work in Abelton for example... more than what's possible with 8th/cycle? The Ecoloop has separate subdivision of loop for quantise apart from the 8th/cycle. So should do anything you want. Somewhere along the development path there was the ability to type in the number of cycles in a loop while the loop was running, I think Matt took that out for the first donation-ware edition of Echoloop...but should be back for future editions. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 13:01:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1736183460; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:01:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=CKBBFOpPYfBSFfEY1Rl9efxuAv/fdt7oFsWUUq3BrLQ= c=1 sm=1 a=Zq2FpVYgtBoA:10 a=PrQNxsP4qVgA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=6wrDOa2Tlcs1iS1ByyX37A==:17 a=oTtuw1C_AAAA:8 a=06076bXjGF2kUBu7QZYA:9 a=UEDujmqfszI7YGiAuJAA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=pQ2a0EFxmsAA:10 a=6wrDOa2Tlcs1iS1ByyX37A==:117 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 05:55:37 -0700 Subject: Re: 11 minute looping piece @ 11:11 on 11/11/11 From: Richard Atkinson To: LOOPERS DELIGHT LIST Message-ID: Thread-Topic: 11 minute looping piece @ 11:11 on 11/11/11 Thread-Index: AcySTDmxd/cA3v4/EeC2sAAWy4YwYQ== In-Reply-To: <4EA553C8.3070408@cruzio.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_hbR-.A.t4.UGWpOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112562 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:01:08 +0000 (UTC) When I rejoined the list last year, I had told you guys I was into a new activity of Ice Speed Skating. When I got into it seriously, I told myself, "Someday, I want to try Long Track!", and "Someday, I'd really like to go to the Olympic Oval in Salt Lake City." Some dreams come true! On the date and time of your 11/11 loop, I will be warming up to get on the ice, at the Olympic Oval, for a master's age Long Track Skating Clinic. Woooooooo!!! I will be thinking of my musical brethren, as I loop around in circles! Too bad it's not a Short Track Clinic, I guess, since our 'loop' is 111 meters. That would seem somewhat fitting, eh? Ah well...400 meters will have to do (wheeze...puff...oh my gawd...wheeze...puff) I look forward to hearing your creations. Regards, Rich On 10/24/11 5:02 AM, "Rick Walker" wrote: > Here's what I propose: > > > That everyone on this list who feels like it, > > sets up their live looping rig somewhere > and on Friday, November 11th at either > 11:11 a.m. or 11:11 p.m. > > they commence to > play and record a live looping piece of music > that last exactly 11 minutes long. Put an alarm clock > up in front of you while you play. > > Then, put that improvisation up somewhere on the web > (bandcamp, dropbox, yousendit, facebook, myspace, whatever) > > and let us all know where to find it. > > > This will be an 11 minute piece of music on 11/11/11 at 11/11 a.m. or > 11/11 p.m. > wherever one lives. > > > If anyone needs suggestions for interesting rhythms in 11/8 or 11/4, > I'd be happy to oblige, but this is not necessary to make these pieces > manifest and > resonate. > > what do you all say? > > yours, rick walker > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 13:50:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF22C18345C; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:50:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-WS-COS: WSOB803 X-Cloudmark-Category: Undefined:Undefined X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=hr4h1/zkXYERSJ2EStLXlJ9v/X1e5ATtVUFVM9Abuxk= c=1 sm=0 a=PS5YPsqztb8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=rrdn4tC-AAAA:8 a=myP459r3AAAA:8 a=eYYImZmqAAAA:8 a=0xmcyeG7AAAA:8 a=kVobe2OVAAAA:8 a=MHmopnqzofPYIIyVL80A:9 a=k2mYr8aeoDVrdZ_86H8A:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=O-gsY9kfaDEA:10 a=R1qc3nVtuvoA:10 a=V9OP79lusOsA:10 a=BtDSt_jlgFGN7bhz:21 a=1DUhN_x6f65NhNsP:21 a=OHdvPF6+MnTcyuqLz7qlFw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Subject: Re: Why...? References: <1B6199507BA14C789075D4FED588E8D0@your0548c161e1> <817EC5D2-6088-4E4D-9535-53E236D1E284@earthwormandfire.com> <24DF8009-B91F-4908-B4E1-BA7D3C12379A@trufun.com> <6228B276-6E57-4C8B-85C4-5DA02D7E8C84@earthwormandfire.com> From: chaz worm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8L1) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <9DE570F2-3EF7-48E7-8CB4-3CD7AE35EE20@earthwormandfire.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 09:50:20 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8L1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112563 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:50:28 +0000 (UTC) Nothing beats showing up at a bluegrass show with my upright bass wedged int= o my lavender Miata.=20 After years struggling with nicest amps that could fit in my car, I'm all ac= oustic or DI box now. I'm too old for that crap.=20 Chaz Worm - singer, bass, banjo Earth, Worm & Fire http://myspace.com/earthwormandfire http://YouTube.com/ChazWorm On Oct 24, 2011, at 4:08 AM, Louie Angulo wrot= e: > Lindsey just silling around dont take it seriously no offenses meant > say Gary do harmonica players really steal all the chicks? jeez how > stupid have male guitarrists been carrying all those heavy 100 watt > amps and putting spandex on:-) >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Lindsey Walker > wrote: >> Chaz, we're cool. Words, while well infused with consentual meaning, are= a >> violent substitution for concepts and often leave something to be desired= . >>=20 >> Lindsey >>=20 >> On Oct 23, 2011 7:01 PM, "chaz worm" wrote: >>>=20 >>> I hope you didn't take offense to my statements Lindsey. I didn't mean t= o >>> speak for anyone but myself. >>> I closely identify with your reasons too. I just like being brutally fra= nk >>> and selling off all my musician guy friends who have their girlfriends >>> thinking they are deeper than your average guy. >>> As for myself, not only am I not deeper than your average guy, I'm >>> remarkably shallow. >>>=20 >>> Chaz Worm - singer, bass, banjo >>> Earth, Worm & Fire >>> http://myspace.com/earthwormandfire >>> http://YouTube.com/ChazWorm >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Oct 23, 2011, at 9:03 PM, Lindsey Walker >>> wrote: >>>=20 >>> Thank you, Per. I was going to prepare some sarcastic comment like, "I >>> had no idea my motivating reason for looping was chicks. I always assum= ed I >>> liked men. This realization will save me thousands on future psychiatry= >>> bills!" No offense is taken, at least, by me. I know that they were >>> speaking from their point of view and weren't meaning to be exclusionary= . >>>=20 >>> Now that I've opened my big mouth... >>>=20 >>> I loop for two reasons, wait no three. The first falls under the, "I >>> don't need no stinkin' band" category. Looping presented itself as a >>> solution to a problem I thought I had: no bandmates! Ironically, by bei= ng >>> content as a one girl band, I've found other solitary bands that want to= >>> work together. How beautiful is that? >>>=20 >>> The second is that I developed a fascination with the gear. The >>> experience of experimenting, with no right or wrong answers, with instan= t >>> results, has been super stimulting and rewarding. >>>=20 >>> Last but not least, looping was love at first sight. I was totally >>> delighted at the possibilites it presented. Loops have always been a th= eme >>> in my life: whether it was loops of yarn when I used to teach knitting, >>> spinning in circles doing hammer throw in college, or with sound. It's >>> essential. >>>=20 >>> Lindsey >>>=20 >>> www.soundcloud.com/reklawysdnil >>>=20 >>> On Oct 23, 2011 3:29 PM, "David Gans" wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> That's where being a songwriter is an advantage. I look down when I'm >>>> looping, but when I am singing I am out there making contact. >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Oct 23, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> girls dont like looper shoogazers they wanna be looked at! >>>>=20 >>>> David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com >>>> Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com >>>>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > www.luis-angulo.com >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 13:57:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6956018345E; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:57:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iUKkfdCNP+US9hOlB7OQjBlTVML3OIti4aSRtp8nFnI=; b=l6jUEAfW+M7hBbVrw57jnEdPu+9g7fsqg034SV5yPYxSyxY01osTdQF17Y/0DODjLD WnzG59KboF9lmKvQzUr5hRlEVLKcSM0rgYSnweUmfuVbIyS1Lit7zf//SSrjWF9I9PTz oGPbn/wHgdNpy6RKCgNcQcVNQXG53+wqEOgXw= Message-ID: <4EA56EB0.5010907@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 15:57:04 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: 11 minute looping piece @ 11:11 on 11/11/11 References: <4EA553C8.3070408@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4EA553C8.3070408@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112564 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:57:10 +0000 (UTC) Am 24.10.11 14:02, schrieb Rick Walker: > what do you all say? What a nice idea, I'll jump in with a piece of 11 minutes and a sound of 11 seconds... The chain tape collective project would become a double CD, as it should contain 11 artists, which sums up to 144 minutes... Unless we chain together 5-6 duos...;-) Stefan -- Les Ondes Memorielles--------x-- -_____-----------|-----------|-- -(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- - _|_)----|-----()-------------- ---------()----------TJ Shredder http://tjshredder.wordpress.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 13:59:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E48F183463; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:59:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-WS-COS: WSOB803 X-Cloudmark-Category: Undefined:Undefined X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=hr4h1/zkXYERSJ2EStLXlJ9v/X1e5ATtVUFVM9Abuxk= c=1 sm=0 a=0QxeI-WSxtAA:10 a=PS5YPsqztb8A:10 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=EH147W0iAAAA:8 a=c0in0evW2qdtevSRA6cA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=moVr1P-LFxaG5i_lU3AA:9 a=93iz31vmdgiMp1J4eZ0A:7 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=OHdvPF6+MnTcyuqLz7qlFw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Subject: Re: 11 minute looping piece @ 11:11 on 11/11/11 References: <4EA553C8.3070408@cruzio.com> From: chaz worm Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--292332659 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8L1) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <2CCC6F5E-5952-4AB5-AF30-88837F2D71F4@earthwormandfire.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 09:59:25 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8L1) Resent-Message-ID: <4QZF-B.A.I-B.F9WpOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112565 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:59:33 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--292332659 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm an upright bassist and clawhammer (punk) banjo. If I did an "extended d= ance version" of one of my songs it may reach 1:11.=20 11:11?!? I've played with too many "jamming" guitar soloists that the thoug= ht of an 11 minute song scares me.=20 That being said I'm always up for a challenge. I may embark upon said endeav= or.=20 Chaz Worm - singer, bass, banjo Earth, Worm & Fire http://myspace.com/earthwormandfire http://YouTube.com/ChazWorm On Oct 24, 2011, at 8:24 AM, Fabio_A wrote: >=20 > what about a new Chain Tape collective release about it? Say, CT-11 :)=20 >=20 > Nice idea and yes.. Ct-Collective needs a new project ! > Please, consider me in anyway. >=20 > -f > www.eterogeneo.com >=20 --Apple-Mail-1--292332659 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
I'm an upright bassist and clawhammer &= nbsp;(punk) banjo. If I did an "extended dance version" of one of my songs i= t may reach 1:11. 

11:11?!?  I've played w= ith too many "jamming" guitar soloists that the thought of an 11 minute song= scares me. 

That being said I'm always up for= a challenge. I may embark upon said endeavor. 

Chaz Worm - sing= er, bass, banjo
Earth, Worm & Fire
<= a href=3D"http://YouTube.com/ChazWorm">http://YouTube.com/ChazWorm


On Oct 24, 2011, at 8:24 AM, Fabio_A <<= a href=3D"mailto:eterogenus@gmail.com">eterogenus@gmail.com> wrote:

what about a new Chain Tape collecti= ve release about it? Say, CT-11 :) 

Nice idea and yes.. Ct-Collective needs a new project !
Please, consider me in anyway.

-f
<= a href=3D"http://www.eterogeneo.com">w= ww.eterogeneo.com

= --Apple-Mail-1--292332659-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 14:04:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 147D5183462; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 14:04:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/xjxX5mPrLvZkSSsP+VFaM7U6dI3uaJ2rxTCs692g/w=; b=m4pLBP5atxE/oXQQjNAm7HfEtANS0ETWtAVKMUBi24QGEFyzXBeFEioAa0UE4iMRVE +vbYZDiUm8mosvXqipEOv9ec6v0352IxaU1AbNoH/Wf137I1dXuMmDs3wPDmePSZ7Y/P guDIMiaIYxUlKmIu5Vl6gYaqGKMLYZCRKA4Kw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4EA553C8.3070408@cruzio.com> References: <4EA553C8.3070408@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:04:43 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 11 minute looping piece @ 11:11 on 11/11/11 From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <4uW9.A.XIC.7BXpOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112566 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 14:04:43 +0000 (UTC) Great idea, Rick. I'm in. Sylvain On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Here's what I propose: > > > That everyone on this list who feels like it, > > sets up their live looping rig somewhere > and on Friday, =A0November 11th at either > 11:11 a.m. or 11:11 p.m. > > they commence to > play and record a live looping piece of music > that last exactly 11 minutes long. =A0 =A0Put an alarm clock > up in front of you while you play. > > Then, =A0 put that improvisation up somewhere on the web > (bandcamp, dropbox, yousendit, facebook, myspace, =A0whatever) > > and let us all know where to find it. > > > This will be an 11 minute piece of music on 11/11/11 =A0at 11/11 a.m. or = 11/11 > p.m. > wherever one lives. > > > If anyone needs suggestions for interesting rhythms in 11/8 =A0or 11/4, > I'd be happy to oblige, but this is not necessary to make these pieces > manifest and > resonate. > > what do you all say? > > yours, =A0 rick walker > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 14:17:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C79418345D; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 14:17:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-WS-COS: WSOB803 X-Cloudmark-Category: Undefined:Undefined X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=hr4h1/zkXYERSJ2EStLXlJ9v/X1e5ATtVUFVM9Abuxk= c=1 sm=0 a=mRWJdq6nWhEA:10 a=PS5YPsqztb8A:10 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=vE9Yp3RhAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=r7E2wE754vqq92IzNbEA:9 a=DkGy6RTrIgSDUG8ed10A:7 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=zXEfOMw5J-gA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=Sxt1puhOYCexfaeG:21 a=YzyXxfXLSL-QGtxw:21 a=GK4vMEumYSDYPN-90JEA:7 a=3vcT5UNcf4oA:10 a=OHdvPF6+MnTcyuqLz7qlFw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Subject: Re: Chicks, Looping, and Harmonica (was Why...?) References: <1B6199507BA14C789075D4FED588E8D0@your0548c161e1> <7E5911750B1B445BA048103011A24DF2@your0548c161e1> From: chaz worm Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--291256150 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8L1) In-Reply-To: <7E5911750B1B445BA048103011A24DF2@your0548c161e1> Message-Id: Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:17:22 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8L1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112567 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 14:17:30 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--291256150 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Harmonica to me is another "sound source". As sub-par to mediocre i am at my= current chosen instrument ('clawhammer banjo' but I've been informed it isn= 't) I'm worse at harmonica. I will often "try" to use the harmonica to do th= e synth line of the new wave song I'm doing.=20 On my YouTube page there is an example of me trying to do that on a Sparks s= ong (Angst In My Pants). Why that song is my most viewed song on YouTube is a= mystery to me. It was done right after I started playing banjo and harmonic= a. I can more readily do it now but that clips lives on in infamy. Haunting m= e really. =20 Chaz Worm - singer, bass, banjo Earth, Worm & Fire http://myspace.com/earthwormandfire http://YouTube.com/ChazWorm On Oct 23, 2011, at 2:25 PM, "Clayton Gary Lehmann" wrote: > Hi Mark and all, > Of course it worked! I can stop making noise and start talking to them whi= le my performance continues . . . > But seriously, since we are all =E2=80=98fessing up (again=E2=80=94one won= ders how many times this thread has come up on LD), I might as well confess w= hy I find looping so attractive. > Making music is like painting the silence with sound=E2=80=94so loopers en= able you to accumulate those brush strokes. > I play plectrum guitar (as opposed to fingerstyle=E2=80=94hi Ted) and so f= ind it harder to play contrapuntally=E2=80=94although I am heavily into harm= onica now, that helps. > I have tried looping harmonica, but just putting guitar thru the signal pr= ocessors in addition to the free reed sounds seems to be enough noise=E2=80=94= and of course, chicks dig harmonica! > I am retuning harps, and have started really digging into the tuning I use= d on my track for the 20th Anniversary clip collection=E2=80=94I think it=E2= =80=99s on Kris=E2=80=99 website. > It=E2=80=99s a IV6 blow/V6 draw tuning=E2=80=94so no tonic chord. It=E2=80= =99s fully chromatic with draw bends, only one note needs be produced with t= he extended technique known as overblowing. > Brendan Power claims to have used it first on a recording, I think he call= s it Power Chromatic. But it is a 10 hole diatonic tuning. > I just retuned a Steve Baker Special 14 hole to this tuning in C, and am r= eeeally happy with how it turned out. I have also built chromatics with this= tuning, but I don=E2=80=99t like it as well as bebop tuned chrom. > Chaz, nice to see another harp player on these pages=E2=80=94some great pl= ayers are starting to show up. > I am also glad you like the RC-20, I want to hear when people like the too= ls they have chosen. > I am on tenterhooks waiting for the next level of pedal loopers, the LP-2 b= y Bob Amstadt. Even as we speak, he is assembling my unit in his garage. > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Hamburg [mailto:mark@grubmah.com]=20 > Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:10 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Why...? > =20 > On Oct 22, 2011, at 12:05 AM, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote: > =20 > > We just did this six weeks ago . . . > > I was trying to get chicks- > =20 > Did it work? > =20 > Mark --Apple-Mail-2--291256150 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Harmonica to me is another "sound sourc= e". As sub-par to mediocre i am at my current chosen instrument ('clawhammer= banjo' but I've been informed it isn't) I'm worse at harmonica. I will ofte= n "try" to use the harmonica to do the synth line of the new wave song I'm d= oing. 
On my YouTube page there is an example of me trying to d= o that on a Sparks song (Angst In My Pants). Why that song is my most viewed= song on YouTube is a mystery to me. It was done right after I started playi= ng banjo and harmonica. I can more readily do it now but that clips lives on= in infamy. Haunting me really.  

Chaz Worm - sing= er, bass, banjo
Earth, Worm & Fire
<= a href=3D"http://YouTube.com/ChazWorm">http://YouTube.com/ChazWorm


On Oct 23, 2011, at 2:25 PM, "Clayton Gary= Lehmann" <hqr@cox.net> wrote:
<= br>

Hi Mark and all,

Of course it worked! I can stop making noise and start talking to them while my performance continues . . .

But seriously, since we are all =E2=80=98fessing up (agai= n=E2=80=94one wonders how many times this thread has come up on LD), I might as well confe= ss why I find looping so attractive.

Making music is like painting the silence with sound=E2=80= =94so loopers enable you to accumulate those brush strokes.

I play plectrum guitar (as opposed to fingerstyle=E2=80=94= hi Ted) and so find it harder to play contrapuntally=E2=80=94although I am heavily i= nto harmonica now, that helps.

I have tried looping harmonica, but just putting guitar t= hru the signal processors in addition to the free reed sounds seems to be enough= noise=E2=80=94and of course, chicks dig harmonica!<= /p>

I am retuning harps, and have started really digging into= the tuning I used on my track for the 20th Anniversary clip collection=E2=80=94I think it=E2=80=99s on Kris=E2=80=99 website.=

It=E2=80=99s a IV6 blow/V6 draw tuning=E2=80=94so no toni= c chord. It=E2=80=99s fully chromatic with draw bends, only one note needs be produced with the extended technique known as overblowing.=

Brendan Power claims to have used it first on a recording= , I think he calls it Power Chromatic. But it is a 10 hole diatonic tuning.=

I just retuned a Steve Baker Special 14 hole to this tuni= ng in C, and am reeeally happy with how it turned out. I have also built chromatics with this tuning, but I don=E2=80=99t like it as well as bebop tu= ned chrom.

Chaz, nice to see another harp player on these pages=E2=80= =94some great players are starting to show up.

I am also glad you like the RC-20, I want to hear when people like the tools they have chosen.

I am on tenterhooks waiting for the next level of pedal loopers, the LP-2 by Bob Amstadt. Even as we speak, he is assembling my unit= in his garage.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Hamburg [mailto:mark@grubmah.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:10 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Why...?

 

On Oct 22, 2011, at 12:05 AM, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote:=

 

> We just did this six weeks ago . . .

> I was trying to get chicks-

 

Did it work?

 

Mark

= --Apple-Mail-2--291256150-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 14:20:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E93A183462; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 14:20:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-WS-COS: WSOB803 X-Cloudmark-Category: Undefined:Undefined X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=hr4h1/zkXYERSJ2EStLXlJ9v/X1e5ATtVUFVM9Abuxk= c=1 sm=0 a=mRWJdq6nWhEA:10 a=PS5YPsqztb8A:10 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=vE9Yp3RhAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=Wkq3MffIqEnhX3m9aNsA:9 a=E_ZLPyCvZ5RgUVeUIYQA:7 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=zXEfOMw5J-gA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=ULUEE3ECVCm1fI-L:21 a=AyLw1QYMdMLV2xS2:21 a=MGoRD3zOJo6GWA6HCzIA:9 a=MEIneRKH-AmEVj6RojkA:7 a=3vcT5UNcf4oA:10 a=OHdvPF6+MnTcyuqLz7qlFw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Subject: Re: Chicks, Looping, and Harmonica (was Why...?) References: <1B6199507BA14C789075D4FED588E8D0@your0548c161e1> <7E5911750B1B445BA048103011A24DF2@your0548c161e1> From: chaz worm Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--291062931 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8L1) In-Reply-To: <7E5911750B1B445BA048103011A24DF2@your0548c161e1> Message-Id: <0395A336-1CC5-44AE-BEC0-2FCD093BC39C@earthwormandfire.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:20:36 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8L1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112568 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 14:20:43 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--291062931 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 More bact to your post. So I guess you are moving the IV note (in G it would= be C) to a lower register so you can more readily bend it?=20 Correct me if I'm wrong. I often tune my banjo to whatever harp I have on an= d that IV note is a bitch because it's too high.=20 I could be way off here. Please excuse my ignorance.=20 Chaz Worm - singer, bass, banjo Earth, Worm & Fire http://myspace.com/earthwormandfire http://YouTube.com/ChazWorm On Oct 23, 2011, at 2:25 PM, "Clayton Gary Lehmann" wrote: > Hi Mark and all, > Of course it worked! I can stop making noise and start talking to them whi= le my performance continues . . . > But seriously, since we are all =E2=80=98fessing up (again=E2=80=94one won= ders how many times this thread has come up on LD), I might as well confess w= hy I find looping so attractive. > Making music is like painting the silence with sound=E2=80=94so loopers en= able you to accumulate those brush strokes. > I play plectrum guitar (as opposed to fingerstyle=E2=80=94hi Ted) and so f= ind it harder to play contrapuntally=E2=80=94although I am heavily into harm= onica now, that helps. > I have tried looping harmonica, but just putting guitar thru the signal pr= ocessors in addition to the free reed sounds seems to be enough noise=E2=80=94= and of course, chicks dig harmonica! > I am retuning harps, and have started really digging into the tuning I use= d on my track for the 20th Anniversary clip collection=E2=80=94I think it=E2= =80=99s on Kris=E2=80=99 website. > It=E2=80=99s a IV6 blow/V6 draw tuning=E2=80=94so no tonic chord. It=E2=80= =99s fully chromatic with draw bends, only one note needs be produced with t= he extended technique known as overblowing. > Brendan Power claims to have used it first on a recording, I think he call= s it Power Chromatic. But it is a 10 hole diatonic tuning. > I just retuned a Steve Baker Special 14 hole to this tuning in C, and am r= eeeally happy with how it turned out. I have also built chromatics with this= tuning, but I don=E2=80=99t like it as well as bebop tuned chrom. > Chaz, nice to see another harp player on these pages=E2=80=94some great pl= ayers are starting to show up. > I am also glad you like the RC-20, I want to hear when people like the too= ls they have chosen. > I am on tenterhooks waiting for the next level of pedal loopers, the LP-2 b= y Bob Amstadt. Even as we speak, he is assembling my unit in his garage. > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Hamburg [mailto:mark@grubmah.com]=20 > Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:10 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Why...? > =20 > On Oct 22, 2011, at 12:05 AM, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote: > =20 > > We just did this six weeks ago . . . > > I was trying to get chicks- > =20 > Did it work? > =20 > Mark --Apple-Mail-3--291062931 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
More bact to your post. So I guess you a= re moving the IV note (in G it would be C) to a lower register so you can mo= re readily bend it? 
Correct me if I'm wrong. I often tune my= banjo to whatever harp I have on and that IV note is a bitch because it's t= oo high. 
I could be way off here. Please excuse my ignorance= . 

Chaz Worm - singer, bass, banjo

On Oct 23, 2= 011, at 2:25 PM, "Clayton Gary Lehmann" <h= qr@cox.net> wrote:

=

Hi Mark and all,

Of course it worked! I can stop making noise and start talking to them while my performance continues . . .

But seriously, since we are all =E2=80=98fessing up (agai= n=E2=80=94one wonders how many times this thread has come up on LD), I might as well confe= ss why I find looping so attractive.

Making music is like painting the silence with sound=E2=80= =94so loopers enable you to accumulate those brush strokes.

I play plectrum guitar (as opposed to fingerstyle=E2=80=94= hi Ted) and so find it harder to play contrapuntally=E2=80=94although I am heavily i= nto harmonica now, that helps.

I have tried looping harmonica, but just putting guitar t= hru the signal processors in addition to the free reed sounds seems to be enough= noise=E2=80=94and of course, chicks dig harmonica!<= /p>

I am retuning harps, and have started really digging into= the tuning I used on my track for the 20th Anniversary clip collection=E2=80=94I think it=E2=80=99s on Kris=E2=80=99 website.=

It=E2=80=99s a IV6 blow/V6 draw tuning=E2=80=94so no toni= c chord. It=E2=80=99s fully chromatic with draw bends, only one note needs be produced with the extended technique known as overblowing.=

Brendan Power claims to have used it first on a recording= , I think he calls it Power Chromatic. But it is a 10 hole diatonic tuning.=

I just retuned a Steve Baker Special 14 hole to this tuni= ng in C, and am reeeally happy with how it turned out. I have also built chromatics with this tuning, but I don=E2=80=99t like it as well as bebop tu= ned chrom.

Chaz, nice to see another harp player on these pages=E2=80= =94some great players are starting to show up.

I am also glad you like the RC-20, I want to hear when people like the tools they have chosen.

I am on tenterhooks waiting for the next level of pedal loopers, the LP-2 by Bob Amstadt. Even as we speak, he is assembling my unit= in his garage.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Hamburg [mailto:mark@grubmah.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:10 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Why...?

 

On Oct 22, 2011, at 12:05 AM, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote:=

 

> We just did this six weeks ago . . .

> I was trying to get chicks-

 

Did it work?

 

Mark

= --Apple-Mail-3--291062931-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 14:23:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD0DD183463; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 14:23:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=RlV0bG8FNe8KXq31idqeKTpKDpasPXAtXN6IqoVIdZ8=; b=S6K9SZjr9a0k26gX/WQluaVCtuceZj1JhYsoWwVcNvwrnf7ZBGIvkwh4bDNFoGg68+ dyJzsLLPsiLvTzQkmyNV7VS4/Eb+HTIgZJW3+HUVqqtMv/S5M8fZ4UMALYkVF/ToJ6i4 Q3HHG2m+Zsh0ZC4l+J9eDrYmMkFU3UYL/kmDk= Message-ID: <4EA574D3.4040205@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 16:23:15 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Why...? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112569 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 14:23:19 +0000 (UTC) Am 22.10.11 07:45, schrieb william middlemiss: > Why do you 'loop'? What got you started on this path? Unlike gender driven motivations, mine was triggered by my inner child. I didn't know it was "looping" 'till I cam across Loopers-Delight. Just childishly playing with a delay and a pitch shifter, later with a Boss SE-70 I started some tweaking and had fun with it. This lead to Max patches controlling those devices, which for long had been replaced by pure software... > Was it a mechanism for solo performance? to record a vamp? I avoid solo as much as I can. My Instrument does allow to do solo, but it doesn't come even close to the fun of playing with others... > A compositional device, a new avenue of expression? (repetition as > compositional device?) Oh yes, my programs became the tool to incorporate the complexity of compositions into free improvised music... > An 'artistic statement' in itself? as if to say "I DONT NEED NO STINKIN > BAND!" I do need a Band, though I prefer the non-stinking ones... > A fallback for artistic roadblocks? (as in--an easy way out) What is an artistic roadblock??? > A way of exploring new rhythms? Every day delivers new rhythms already... > A textural apparatus? sound design? I love textures, and I paint them with my set... (I should call my music sonic painting...) > A means of 'warping sound'? Yes, but especially also warping the time structure, as opposed to just layering effects on the sounds... > With me, it's been all of the above, and I've jumped among 7 or 8 > devices along the way. Since I started, the devices vanished completely, except for a Mac running Max/MSP and of course an audio interface and some controllers. The only gear I am really into now are controllers, the last one is my very first foot controller, a SoftStep... Stefan -- Les Ondes Memorielles--------x-- -_____-----------|-----------|-- -(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- - _|_)----|-----()-------------- ---------()----------TJ Shredder http://tjshredder.wordpress.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 14:35:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A98FA183461; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 14:35:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=6DnK9SlspjQUafU6MzYmZAt1wpB1MUaNH28Mo/Kfxqk= c=1 sm=1 a=PrQNxsP4qVgA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:17 a=OIwchHIg-24uZGvPjasA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: 11 minute looping piece @ 11:11 on 11/11/11 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= In-Reply-To: <4EA553C8.3070408@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 07:35:00 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <662D597F-09DC-4115-A3D2-30458BCB2227@charter.net> References: <4EA553C8.3070408@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112570 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 14:35:02 +0000 (UTC) In the spirit of Nigel Tufnel I think I could do something along those = lines. On Oct 24, 2011, at 5:02 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Here's what I propose: >=20 >=20 > That everyone on this list who feels like it, >=20 > sets up their live looping rig somewhere > and on Friday, November 11th at either > 11:11 a.m. or 11:11 p.m. >=20 > they commence to > play and record a live looping piece of music > that last exactly 11 minutes long. Put an alarm clock > up in front of you while you play. >=20 > Then, put that improvisation up somewhere on the web > (bandcamp, dropbox, yousendit, facebook, myspace, whatever) >=20 > and let us all know where to find it. >=20 >=20 > This will be an 11 minute piece of music on 11/11/11 at 11/11 a.m. or = 11/11 p.m. > wherever one lives. >=20 >=20 > If anyone needs suggestions for interesting rhythms in 11/8 or 11/4, > I'd be happy to oblige, but this is not necessary to make these pieces = manifest and > resonate. >=20 > what do you all say? >=20 > yours, rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 16:00:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A20B4183462; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 16:00:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=YJLvem+KurtbxiN5oHYKB4nNWd1v2JDn8ml9VvgV00o=; b=Grz+Bop1jUumGHMlqixSTgp/QVyJbDQAfQzQl83YWK5BTQ9gJyhbWg+FmVQxZlkP8d NiTjuW4l+ctRu+vh2jKxP5eyhn2eQj5xvpUnOvu+E++Cz/HZ5CJ+NFNjJqFRGopfr+Rr Ex78gD0Ao8+YXpDR8b4+6YO6FalYq5Db/Wrpw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1B6199507BA14C789075D4FED588E8D0@your0548c161e1> <7E5911750B1B445BA048103011A24DF2@your0548c161e1> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 18:00:24 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Chicks, Looping, and Harmonica (was Why...?) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <2AWbIB.A.7NE.ZuYpOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112571 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 16:00:25 +0000 (UTC) Maybe people find it charming because your performance is very good and that "crappy" harmonica part just comes out as another evidence of your powerful performance attitude. Besides, singing on the beach with real wind noise terrorizing the cam work is cool because "it no doubt shows the real thing". And ever since Dylan a non blues harp harmonica is allowed to sound even worse than that, so in a way harmonica is not about how it sounds but about everything else in a song performance that is not the harmonica. Kind of the sour flavor in a recipe that has to be there to justify the dish... ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:17 PM, chaz worm wrote: > On my YouTube page there is an example of me trying to do that on a Sparks > song (Angst In My Pants). Why that song is my most viewed song on YouTube is > a mystery to me. It was done right after I started playing banjo and > harmonica. I can more readily do it now but that clips lives on in infamy. > Haunting me really. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 16:35:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9629183462; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 16:35:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: 217.70.178.145 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter17-d.gandi.net X-Originating-IP: 115.30.211.79 Message-ID: <4EA593BE.7040309@m3ch.net> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 01:35:10 +0900 From: Dust Bunnies User-Agent: Postbox 2.5.2 (Macintosh/20110802) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: 11 minute looping piece @ 11:11 on 11/11/11 References: <4EA553C8.3070408@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4EA553C8.3070408@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112572 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 16:35:31 +0000 (UTC) On 10/24/11 9:02 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Here's what I propose: > .... > This will be an 11 minute piece of music on 11/11/11 at 11/11 a.m. or > 11/11 p.m. > wherever one lives. Add me to the list. I can't make a 100% promise (our lives are still in flux at the moment; currently waiting for a glitch in our Visas to get fixed so they can send us plane tickets). But I'll do my damnedest. :) --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 16:50:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 398DD183463; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 16:50:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=xa2LCy15FBCWPYZgN/JYQNs1hizyOhvwygcQfBFRkjU=; b=dHTu3pq2SniftZpzgF32rb0gdW0JTMf84Q+Jwo0CytxZzTvHE274x6BYJLwjrU6P1c 53x/a5AQFFZ+WF8+fUDqKlzDUhEcYIvEdj/Zj9JkDf/D7h6Vx+/yM2+w+JpNDXdnxmbb yH3+1TTVPnOAreDc28swY6BRDUvxFQtV+yGhM= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: URGENT GLITCH! Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 From: Matthias Grob In-Reply-To: <4EA3EF5B.9020806@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:50:11 -0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <4EA3EF5B.9020806@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112573 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 16:50:26 +0000 (UTC) its worse when its hot and one forgets to drink. I became horribly sick once! On 23 Oct 2011, at 07:41, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> Then it hit me that I forgot to eat yesterday - > I'm so glad that someone else does something this silly > when they are 'in the zone' of work and creativity. > > I don't recommend it, but I've had many a day where 12 hours into it > I think......."shit, I never ate, did I?" > > lol. > > rick > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 17:01:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0BE4118345E; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:01:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=TjpTu60qcxADdTUAxr/UmYePKutCBx8WZV5NIGjZrao=; b=g45tIdNewxOs1BxNFi53QWP12LiVaatv+iOmQF8hjW9lLC376F6Y8zH1Nre7Ufjhx4 RBbNMAaSuvmffFv+q+n384yx7UJqNkcqdPeqjqTTuW4BM6NXg5gL5H1i/0L/IcgX7Ntj DABqiKmcIHxKj06OyeLvBjyvHbsaFydBnFvpU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1B6199507BA14C789075D4FED588E8D0@your0548c161e1> <817EC5D2-6088-4E4D-9535-53E236D1E284@earthwormandfire.com> <24DF8009-B91F-4908-B4E1-BA7D3C12379A@trufun.com> <6228B276-6E57-4C8B-85C4-5DA02D7E8C84@earthwormandfire.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:01:31 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why...? From: Lindsey Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba613b50f71c0304b00e5f7c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112574 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:01:33 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba613b50f71c0304b00e5f7c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes, I know! The silliness is adorable. Louie, it's been forever! How are you? Lindsey On Oct 24, 2011 1:08 AM, "Louie Angulo" wrote: > Lindsey just silling around dont take it seriously no offenses meant > say Gary do harmonica players really steal all the chicks? jeez how > stupid have male guitarrists been carrying all those heavy 100 watt > amps and putting spandex on:-) > > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Lindsey Walker > wrote: > > Chaz, we're cool. Words, while well infused with consentual meaning, are > a > > violent substitution for concepts and often leave something to be > desired. > > > > Lindsey > > > > On Oct 23, 2011 7:01 PM, "chaz worm" wrote: > >> > >> I hope you didn't take offense to my statements Lindsey. I didn't mean > to > >> speak for anyone but myself. > >> I closely identify with your reasons too. I just like being brutally > frank > >> and selling off all my musician guy friends who have their girlfriends > >> thinking they are deeper than your average guy. > >> As for myself, not only am I not deeper than your average guy, I'm > >> remarkably shallow. > >> > >> Chaz Worm - singer, bass, banjo > >> Earth, Worm & Fire > >> http://myspace.com/earthwormandfire > >> http://YouTube.com/ChazWorm > >> > >> > >> On Oct 23, 2011, at 9:03 PM, Lindsey Walker > >> wrote: > >> > >> Thank you, Per. I was going to prepare some sarcastic comment like, "I > >> had no idea my motivating reason for looping was chicks. I always > assumed I > >> liked men. This realization will save me thousands on future psychiatry > >> bills!" No offense is taken, at least, by me. I know that they were > >> speaking from their point of view and weren't meaning to be > exclusionary. > >> > >> Now that I've opened my big mouth... > >> > >> I loop for two reasons, wait no three. The first falls under the, "I > >> don't need no stinkin' band" category. Looping presented itself as a > >> solution to a problem I thought I had: no bandmates! Ironically, by > being > >> content as a one girl band, I've found other solitary bands that want to > >> work together. How beautiful is that? > >> > >> The second is that I developed a fascination with the gear. The > >> experience of experimenting, with no right or wrong answers, with > instant > >> results, has been super stimulting and rewarding. > >> > >> Last but not least, looping was love at first sight. I was totally > >> delighted at the possibilites it presented. Loops have always been a > theme > >> in my life: whether it was loops of yarn when I used to teach knitting, > >> spinning in circles doing hammer throw in college, or with sound. It's > >> essential. > >> > >> Lindsey > >> > >> www.soundcloud.com/reklawysdnil > >> > >> On Oct 23, 2011 3:29 PM, "David Gans" wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> That's where being a songwriter is an advantage. I look down when I'm > >>> looping, but when I am singing I am out there making contact. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Oct 23, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > >>> > >>> > girls dont like looper shoogazers they wanna be looked at! > >>> > >>> David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > >>> Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com > >>> > > > > > > -- > www.luis-angulo.com > > --90e6ba613b50f71c0304b00e5f7c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes, I know! The silliness is adorable.

Louie, it's been forever! How are you?

Lindsey

On Oct 24, 2011 1:08 AM, "Louie Angulo"= ; <louie.angulo@googlemai= l.com> wrote:
Lindsey just silling around dont take it seriously no offenses meant
say Gary do harmonica players really steal all the chicks? jeez how
stupid have male guitarrists been carrying all those heavy 100 watt
amps and putting spandex on:-)


On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Lindsey Walker
<lindsey.walker@gmail.com> wrote:
> Chaz, we're cool.=A0 Words, while well infused with consentual mea= ning, are a
> violent substitution for concepts and often leave something to be desi= red.
>
> Lindsey
>
> On Oct 23, 2011 7:01 PM, "chaz worm" <
chaz@earthwormandfire.com> wrote:
>>
>> I hope you didn't take offense to my statements Lindsey. I did= n't mean to
>> speak for anyone but myself.
>> I closely identify with your reasons too. I just like being brutal= ly frank
>> and selling off all my musician guy friends who have their girlfri= ends
>> thinking they are deeper than your average guy.
>> As for myself, not only am I not deeper than your average guy, I&#= 39;m
>> remarkably shallow.
>>
>> Chaz Worm - singer, bass, banjo
>> Earth, Worm & Fire
>> = http://myspace.com/earthwormandfire
>> http://Y= ouTube.com/ChazWorm
>>
>>
>> On Oct 23, 2011, at 9:03 PM, Lindsey Walker <lindsey.walker@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you, Per.=A0 I was going to prepare some sarcastic comment l= ike, "I
>> had no idea my motivating reason for looping was chicks.=A0 I alwa= ys assumed I
>> liked men.=A0 This realization will save me thousands on future ps= ychiatry
>> bills!" No offense is taken, at least, by me.=A0 I know that = they were
>> speaking from their point of view and weren't meaning to be ex= clusionary.
>>
>> Now that I've opened my big mouth...
>>
>> I loop for two reasons, wait no three.=A0 The first falls under th= e, "I
>> don't need no stinkin' band" category.=A0 Looping pre= sented itself as a
>> solution to a problem I thought I had: no bandmates!=A0 Ironically= , by being
>> content as a one girl band, I've found other solitary bands th= at want to
>> work together.=A0 How beautiful is that?
>>
>> The second is that I developed a fascination with the gear.=A0 The=
>> experience of experimenting, with no right or wrong answers, with = instant
>> results, has been super stimulting and rewarding.
>>
>> Last but not least, looping was love at first sight.=A0 I was tota= lly
>> delighted at the possibilites it presented.=A0 Loops have always b= een a theme
>> in my life: whether it was loops of yarn when I used to teach knit= ting,
>> spinning in circles doing hammer throw in college, or with sound.= =A0 It's
>> essential.
>>
>> Lindsey
>>
>> www.soundcloud.com/reklawysdnil
>>
>> On Oct 23, 2011 3:29 PM, "David Gans" <david@trufun.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> That's where being a songwriter is an advantage. =A0I look= down when I'm
>>> looping, but when I am singing I am out there making contact.<= br> >>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 23, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Louie Angulo wrote:
>>>
>>> > girls dont like =A0looper shoogazers they wanna be looked= at!
>>>
>>> David Gans - david@trufun.= com or david@gdhour.com
>>> Blog: =A0http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com
>>>
>



--
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--90e6ba613b50f71c0304b00e5f7c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 17:03:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FB93183478; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:03:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=OuPeqhDumSJdA4zyoFAXXWmLriaMOFN69HIWaoL6Mfs=; b=api/KLEX/sHSbwjK5qva3kmrooGffjLxJgSkvdDlPWiM5nGEa+9GbXjhc4zsZt0Mzh FaTG8Ex0TJYMnbLAJsbw0zQx0R7qw5pp8DUTvx5Iq8SFJihAcBkCbcErp5/lvYueIH+i IxCvOgAB/152tco6ElGwtufWOC7FRasvlbnVc= Subject: Re: 11 minute looping piece @ 11:11 on 11/11/11 References: <4EA553C8.3070408@cruzio.com> <662D597F-09DC-4115-A3D2-30458BCB2227@charter.net> From: Jean-Paul De Roover Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8C148) In-Reply-To: <662D597F-09DC-4115-A3D2-30458BCB2227@charter.net> Message-Id: <04EFEF2B-9999-4452-B74C-23755661AA30@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:01:05 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112575 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:03:04 +0000 (UTC) I'm definitely game for this as well!=20 Jean-Paul De Roover (807) 251-3376 www.jeanpaulderoover.com Check out the brand new music video for "You"!=20 http://youtube.com/watch?v=3DW7QnxUgGQPc *Sent from my iPhone.* On 2011-10-24, at 10:35 AM, tEd =C2=AE KiLLiAn wrot= e: > In the spirit of Nigel Tufnel I think I could do something along those lin= es. >=20 > On Oct 24, 2011, at 5:02 AM, Rick Walker wrote: >=20 >> Here's what I propose: >>=20 >>=20 >> That everyone on this list who feels like it, >>=20 >> sets up their live looping rig somewhere >> and on Friday, November 11th at either >> 11:11 a.m. or 11:11 p.m. >>=20 >> they commence to >> play and record a live looping piece of music >> that last exactly 11 minutes long. Put an alarm clock >> up in front of you while you play. >>=20 >> Then, put that improvisation up somewhere on the web >> (bandcamp, dropbox, yousendit, facebook, myspace, whatever) >>=20 >> and let us all know where to find it. >>=20 >>=20 >> This will be an 11 minute piece of music on 11/11/11 at 11/11 a.m. or 11= /11 p.m. >> wherever one lives. >>=20 >>=20 >> If anyone needs suggestions for interesting rhythms in 11/8 or 11/4, >> I'd be happy to oblige, but this is not necessary to make these pieces ma= nifest and >> resonate. >>=20 >> what do you all say? >>=20 >> yours, rick walker >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 17:04:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A150183464; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:04:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kevinkissinger.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=Dh7ks7U6hhTen5FeVq4vuRISN2dEBOCCNCLADokkq7A=; b=aBa372Ln7ZrMXoCvxpA9jtvfX1/+wJzHwW0A+Xyq4GZ0awG9Ao9yGuWupI8Mo6Jv7Rwyb/WJnwRnqZ6vTFH0acnUn1YBIkQrygukKCBhmswhtpdpfkl3rim2lAuTytQg; Message-ID: <20111024120429.156155wszh7pfnod@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:04:29 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: 11 minute looping piece @ 11:11 on 11/11/11 References: <4EA553C8.3070408@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4EA553C8.3070408@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3.9) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112576 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:04:32 +0000 (UTC) Sounds like fun. I'll see what I can do. :) -- Kevin Quoting Rick Walker : > Here's what I propose: > > > That everyone on this list who feels like it, > > sets up their live looping rig somewhere > and on Friday, November 11th at either > 11:11 a.m. or 11:11 p.m. > > they commence to > play and record a live looping piece of music > that last exactly 11 minutes long. Put an alarm clock > up in front of you while you play. > > Then, put that improvisation up somewhere on the web > (bandcamp, dropbox, yousendit, facebook, myspace, whatever) > > and let us all know where to find it. > > > This will be an 11 minute piece of music on 11/11/11 at 11/11 a.m. > or 11/11 p.m. > wherever one lives. > > > If anyone needs suggestions for interesting rhythms in 11/8 or 11/4, > I'd be happy to oblige, but this is not necessary to make these > pieces manifest and > resonate. > > what do you all say? > > yours, rick walker > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 17:08:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E169D183475; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:08:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jYTXkoFIW8Pt8m4AIlMIFFXQw/QD/2sxN4Di7whbezM=; b=GYCX5smbPgPj2r1+fZDbK3VKuY+2C6WeifTn68vdk81sQERIXe5vOX+o1yLKohg7MA F27+TJnB/eMRYiosb5B6V9vOqpyJVIEIdjoUln85ALTLbNWyJKjWXxw32cMvhRgbXD3F M2MBItIcSmQFZ0EegHOmx+RaNUp3UHdUuO4xw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4EA3EF5B.9020806@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 19:08:42 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: URGENT GLITCH! Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <98IMg.A.LCG.buZpOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112577 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:08:43 +0000 (UTC) Is it really possible to forget to drink? You mean you did that, Matthias? Was you looping? :-)) I sometimes forget to swallow saliva when looping and only realize it when my shirt suddenly turns out to be all wet by too long exposure to a never ending drool flood (not happening with wind instruments by an immediate threat when looping guitar or stick). Finally proved: Loopers are freaks. This thread is sick ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: > its worse when its hot and one forgets to drink. I became horribly sick o= nce! > > On 23 Oct 2011, at 07:41, Rick Walker wrote: > >> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >>> Then it hit me that I forgot to eat yesterday - >> I'm so glad that someone else does something this silly >> when they are 'in the zone' =C2=A0of work and creativity. >> >> I don't recommend it, =C2=A0but I've had many a day where 12 hours into = it >> I think......."shit, =C2=A0I never ate, did I?" >> >> lol. >> >> rick >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 17:10:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8CD1D183486; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:10:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9DxmTmZXzkHNRPrKqtFKaEuucxAoIG1ig7GHP9tYzj0=; b=A6vlnGM94Kd3wWm4Z1SXrT1SlaRfWuzMmyh9RG6BfxZ63ibhrocNjVbR5WnTJPITqN vD9EapOVvqUqmk2yr6R+/GQatPIrHRjVBg3O6s9jPsz1fB7NA1Hli3f6rMvS4TrZvzEj Wg+oIRn1GNGRSRLJXIlCJpGivYzmhWbSJGqFY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4EA3EF5B.9020806@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:10:04 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: URGENT GLITCH! Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <652Q-D.A.ZJG.tvZpOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112578 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:10:06 +0000 (UTC) How can you tell when the stage is level? Kevin On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Is it really possible to forget to drink? You mean you did that, > Matthias? Was you looping? :-)) =A0I sometimes forget to swallow saliva > when looping and only realize it when my shirt suddenly turns out to > be all wet by too long exposure to a never ending drool flood (not > happening with wind instruments by an immediate threat when looping > guitar or stick). > > Finally proved: Loopers are freaks. This thread is sick ;-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Matthias Grob wrot= e: >> its worse when its hot and one forgets to drink. I became horribly sick = once! >> >> On 23 Oct 2011, at 07:41, Rick Walker wrote: >> >>> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >>>> Then it hit me that I forgot to eat yesterday - >>> I'm so glad that someone else does something this silly >>> when they are 'in the zone' =A0of work and creativity. >>> >>> I don't recommend it, =A0but I've had many a day where 12 hours into it >>> I think......."shit, =A0I never ate, did I?" >>> >>> lol. >>> >>> rick >>> >> >> > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 17:20:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 884A7183463; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:20:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=GArhnE3wiG7I1R3B+TPHw+nqticXikd4CEdV2dkPzJw=; b=UE1uCH1CpchmVx1vU4G1JXu55iOhEDdfokw9Dh/ovhxbr6UsXQjCJaeIVq+38cTjrp WyZ+yupmiqREm/Qdh2ZYcGBHt+ur2QuoRZOJJoQziNqGWWJ64pV1gvxQAyr9ada6JRql J+QZTEDvzTt+gXJ1mWk9hXodGu480OoEyDSyM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4EA3EF5B.9020806@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 19:20:41 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: URGENT GLITCH! Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <_RJKdB.A.IYG.q5ZpOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112579 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:20:42 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > How can you tell when the stage is level? Wot? You English native speaker must educate this flat headed oversea crature what "stage is level" means? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 17:43:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88B77183474; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:43:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=u4sphp+P9Lslf/b3/x/lPxCBn8J2hb99EDqE5KAgXCA=; b=S5kJ0Tv/UjPMCtA0VaX/eV3GEHsh9YT+V8UnjFPtzRtL6mwa3yF0eavlfA1ICsP0IS HyGS2tplM3emHOZfmG6riBgzjnFC561XAP0uvxt36/0cHyynOunZX7WGqfcwt6vps4Oo HN5cGcK5v8lnnjaRaHX1aopyen+pSirLhPICE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4EA3EF5B.9020806@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:43:11 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: URGENT GLITCH! Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112580 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:43:13 +0000 (UTC) When the stage is level mean basically that it is flat, leaning no more to the left than the right, equally balanced. I was just riffing off an old drummer joke (you can tell the stage is level when the drool comes out both sides of their mouths). It loses something when you have to explain it :-) K On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando > wrote: >> How can you tell when the stage is level? > > Wot? You English native speaker must educate this flat headed oversea > crature what "stage is level" means? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 17:53:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2F7F183477; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:53:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-WS-COS: WSOB803 X-Cloudmark-Category: Undefined:Undefined X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=hr4h1/zkXYERSJ2EStLXlJ9v/X1e5ATtVUFVM9Abuxk= c=1 sm=0 a=mRWJdq6nWhEA:10 a=PS5YPsqztb8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=dMZfGW12AAAA:8 a=rrdn4tC-AAAA:8 a=fGMrEdNg0eo-Y5iJDQ0A:9 a=zCwKEtHJOPXnayD9y8UA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=O-gsY9kfaDEA:10 a=OHdvPF6+MnTcyuqLz7qlFw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Subject: Re: Chicks, Looping, and Harmonica (was Why...?) References: <1B6199507BA14C789075D4FED588E8D0@your0548c161e1> <7E5911750B1B445BA048103011A24DF2@your0548c161e1> From: chaz worm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8L1) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:53:34 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8L1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112581 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:53:42 +0000 (UTC) Thanks. I barely knew the song and was still pretty green on banjo. I could almost Be exempted from this most excellent group because I pretty m= uch use my banjo head and effects to loop me a drummer. I do very little mel= odic looping. I do 4-part harmonies on my bad religion covers so I guess tha= t is unique and looping.=20 I'm here in eastern Ky (or the sugarlands of the Philippines) so it's rare I= get to play with other musicians.=20 I did find a clip on YouTube of me looping but it was under the title "Hank Z= eppelin" and it too was only looping in a quasi percussive cheating manner (= I looped Bonhams opening drums to Levee and sang a Hank Williams tune over i= t. And very bad harmonica too. Lol) Chaz Worm - singer, bass, banjo Earth, Worm & Fire http://myspace.com/earthwormandfire http://YouTube.com/ChazWorm On Oct 24, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Maybe people find it charming because your performance is very good > and that "crappy" harmonica part just comes out as another evidence of > your powerful performance attitude. Besides, singing on the beach with > real wind noise terrorizing the cam work is cool because "it no doubt > shows the real thing". And ever since Dylan a non blues harp harmonica > is allowed to sound even worse than that, so in a way harmonica is not > about how it sounds but about everything else in a song performance > that is not the harmonica. Kind of the sour flavor in a recipe that > has to be there to justify the dish... ;-) >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:17 PM, chaz worm wro= te: >> On my YouTube page there is an example of me trying to do that on a Spark= s >> song (Angst In My Pants). Why that song is my most viewed song on YouTube= is >> a mystery to me. It was done right after I started playing banjo and >> harmonica. I can more readily do it now but that clips lives on in infamy= . >> Haunting me really. >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 18:12:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B5AB183464; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 18:12:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=gUDnpWRbJiuMkjtZaBNOldlX63OwAnD7/bh4+yJknng=; b=adYL/NhFEzON9/cJqX3vfwZU1K8YNB/Vn7Cg6VUihpLURau0zQ5OS1lx2qpu7WtnXP U/5i54aWiRSIH0nv+a3WimmNAaBOk9pVdS+cjfJRAVC3mbLA3dAzlZmnhaYuBmJjutVV miGofVEd4s5FhvFYB9+U7QClk7/IhTzd1CUSA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4EA3EF5B.9020806@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:12:31 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: URGENT GLITCH! Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112582 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 18:12:33 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > It loses something when you have to explain it :-) Well, sorry for the spoiler but I'm glad to learn that expression. Thanks a lot! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 18:28:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B59D7183462; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 18:28:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 827627.36492.bm@omp1036.mail.bf1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1319480884; bh=LjWnCmyX66jng1Czjo0BPWtnQAViB1eaRAefk6ciZCY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vrT6hZnWLlVKtcVnU1/lpiKQdjjrPIfOhUJoL9hOeXpcsJRFryIZ6Jd+M5ZhpErXPb7mFw6yBxaii29m5M+0Q/86nCYmFWxH7PuY6fWrpeY8oIjwsJE0bnCKSurh/QZHE1XrpRsihZm4VgrrKqFB+EXH1D7QcjNPKr5NhtLQG7s= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bOgUW1a+wtYDT2yXOZay4T39Spa4ctYmLBU9OLR4zy6TB9pu8jxxpQUVPTezzSIQMXp5Fhd0KqDu5kPzNWM5LYjqBz7fzuc8EOJ36mZ2/mh471RhY7yp82QRh9k945p7OvB8+t4NeHW+I+jueZ/XfXeuU0OItI6zpJxKQ312kPo=; X-YMail-OSG: cHMzCI8VM1mFo7EaE35TlFtnthq9TKbGZxGldAX0ZCG4ASK ywc_LM74Qolxh.9L5QD27ws6Sn.YEoSLt0fdEIT77Sc..MIOVel4NQfeGobw 73MVoXx1IFbgZ00rDl0wrCy3WSNXnxmm8wlwZjBqp2Se_YAnxawozjBRdcY_ ZxY.4dP8Zjz4P9BNNmSlE6fIf8b5uQ0hBsB13N0EDKmd6qqhYDfKd2N2t2.j pmuO_cjuZm0gj.MFpwXreNP3En4lAXlFDSsGvPmT.VjaCrlxhE1vjIlzSOM8 uiZ0M1d4PBzcXw3McdVoKqhfdmrAk5VpejytDex.U8ES3i_m_9MPaoV2LR6l B.v.Dr7wtvYRVzV_gl0uJzKkiufD7urGLgBBPxuWs987BGaVeSieJczRFHi_ dtJLJsnju792WgdfMO5rm8L3XznX5iVTwTJVXQ0lBUt2mlDRtNI3lHKJQGWs VoIwiKHlc1oZjaWQJnA6Axs4V2LxXlqTyEjQjIHNRTvDwJzZ6WAKYNXOPldS ThV2WfUIa1QDehDWDnSp86q4WvFx_wYpM7a2U6Zr9Gz.ISJO_lORI76KC2ts .Z3gRBc1dB.I1_KL3VksnpqM9r2U6KcPgY9awqxrI2gFaI1Kv0RkHKVhQWLh 9jXYFraEVrDLkrlZe6W7sCDYYVOlvivh5j6Nj.AJ1CEa0XRkyuBinKEhmUi9 KdI5g_XdzvgOHr5kebthEGvnYlPE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.114.317681 References: <4EA3EF5B.9020806@cruzio.com> Message-ID: <1319480884.81619.YahooMailNeo@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:28:04 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Reply-To: bill bigrig Subject: Re: URGENT GLITCH! Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-3126525-1204960094-1319480884=:81619" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112583 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 18:28:05 +0000 (UTC) ---3126525-1204960094-1319480884=:81619 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy, Leo Kottke once told a story during a concert about playing a show. doing = a song with his eyes closed, really getting into his performance. He opened= his eyes partway through the song and saw a big line of drool hanging out = of his mouth down onto his guitar. Happens to the best. Rig=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Kevin Cheli-Colando &l= t;billowhead@gmail.com>=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent= : Monday, October 24, 2011 10:10 AM=0ASubject: Re: URGENT GLITCH! Re: Shari= ng my pix/videos from YK2X+1=0A=0AHow can you tell when the stage is level?= =0A=0AKevin=0A=0AOn Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen= @gmail.com> wrote:=0A> Is it really possible to forget to drink? You = mean you did that,=0A> Matthias? Was you looping? :-)) =A0I sometimes fo= rget to swallow saliva=0A> when looping and only realize it when my shir= t suddenly turns out to=0A> be all wet by too long exposure to a never e= nding drool flood (not=0A> happening with wind instruments by an immedia= te threat when looping=0A> guitar or stick).=0A>=0A> Finally prove= d: Loopers are freaks. This thread is sick ;-)=0A>=0A> Greetings from= Sweden=0A>=0A> Per Boysen=0A> www.perboysen.com=0A> http://www= .youtube.com/perboysen=0A>=0A>=0A> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:50 PM= , Matthias Grob <matilists@gmail.com> wrote:=0A>> its worse whe= n its hot and one forgets to drink. I became horribly sick once!=0A>>= =0A>> On 23 Oct 2011, at 07:41, Rick Walker wrote:=0A>>=0A>&= gt;> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote:=0A>>>> Then it h= it me that I forgot to eat yesterday -=0A>>> I'm so glad that = someone else does something this silly=0A>>> when they are 'in= the zone' =A0of work and creativity.=0A>>>=0A>>> I d= on't recommend it, =A0but I've had many a day where 12 hours into i= t=0A>>> I think......."shit, =A0I never ate, did I?"=0A&= gt;>>=0A>>> lol.=0A>>>=0A>>> rick=0A>&g= t;>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>=0A>=0A=0A=0A=0A-- =0ATill now you se= riously considered yourself to be the body and to have a=0Aform. That is th= e primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.=0A=0A- Ramana Ma= harshi (1879-1950)=0A=0ASound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org=0AVid= eo http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos ---3126525-1204960094-1319480884=:81619 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy,=0D
=0D
Leo Kottke once told a story during a concert abou= t playing a show. doing a song with his eyes closed, really getting into hi= s performance. He opened his eyes partway through the song and saw a big li= ne of drool hanging out of his mouth down onto his guitar. Happens to the b= est.=0D
Rig
<= hr size=3D"1">From: Kevin C= heli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:10 AM=
Subject: Re: URGENT GL= ITCH! Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1

=0AHow can you te= ll when the stage is level?

Kevin

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 10:= 08 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is it r= eally possible to forget to drink? You mean you did that,
> Matthias?= Was you looping? :-)) =A0I sometimes forget to swallow saliva
> when= looping and only realize it when my shirt suddenly turns out to
> be= all wet by too long exposure to a never ending drool flood (not
> ha= ppening with wind instruments by an immediate threat when looping
> g= uitar or stick).
>
> Finally proved: Loopers are freaks. This t= hread is sick ;-)
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per= Boysen
> www.= perboysen.com
> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen
>
><= BR>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Matthias Grob <matilists@gmail.com> wrote:
>> its worse when its hot and = one forgets to drink. I became horribly sick once!
>>
>> = On 23 Oct 2011, at 07:41, Rick Walker wrote:
>>
>>> On= 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote:
>>>> Then it hit me tha= t I forgot to eat yesterday -
>>> I'm so glad that someone else= does something this silly
>>> when they are 'in the zone' =A0o= f work and creativity.
>>>
>>> I don't recommend it= , =A0but I've had many a day where 12 hours into it
>>> I think= ......."shit, =A0I never ate, did I?"
>>>
>>> lol.<= BR>>>>
>>> rick
>>>
>>
>>= ;
>
>



--
Till now you seriously considered y= ourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-195= 0)

Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org
Video http://www= .vimeo.com/user877640/videos



---3126525-1204960094-1319480884=:81619-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 18:36:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 14FDF183462; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 18:36:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=6/npUOfYYB8eyQG43CELnTuq7Z8Kr6exbH1GK1ZIxCQ=; b=ZBkzZc9WmGVCVXRD8p/TerxbB4p18ZSGxOkK+P+OR4zyE7ASGGfbcEqjbloXqfOEmK 7P/zeMf5oTR2LeJLUsVVFKAh7X1GIkiIbg/Id61U6qgCLlwZ0cZPmgDr4ADqyejnE0ah sFbSNNAD87M7+Z4449HUUm/R9rLLqpDVfZytM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4EA55AF4.9030401@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4EA53902.4050706@tiscali.co.uk> <4EA55AF4.9030401@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:36:19 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: tfvS4T4l1lUVfblJsONz796_PD0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: More EDP synch woes! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3010e95115e4ef04b00fb4ae Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112584 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 18:36:39 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3010e95115e4ef04b00fb4ae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks for the reply Andy, Im just waiting for Nikolas to go to sleep, so I can nip down into the studio and try out some stuff.. Just a couple of points... mark francombe wrote: > > I will check that, (incidentaly, do I have setting correct for midi IN >> sync.. If EDP1 is Brothered to EDP2 and the midi clock is going to EDP1, >> then do I have EDP1 set to IN and EDP2 to OUT? or both IN?) >> > > when both are receiving clock from another device > both should be sync=In. > WAIT.. did you mean IF BOTH DEVICES HAVE A MIDI CABLE PLUGGED IN TO MIDI IN? (oops capslock) Cos only 1 does.. that EDP1, but EDP2 is bothered to it.. thats ok right? >>>In fact I was gonna mention this to those developing Ecoloop... Here I infact meant Evoloop I believe... remember me not soft me hard! > The Ecoloop has separate subdivision of loop for quantise apart from the > 8th/cycle. > So should do anything you want. > Ziss eez velly interesteeeng... M -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --20cf3010e95115e4ef04b00fb4ae Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the reply Andy, Im just waiting for Nikolas to go to sleep, so I= can nip down into the studio and try out some stuff..
Just a couple of= points...


mark francombe wrote:

I will check that, =A0(incidentaly, do I have setting correct for midi IN s= ync.. If EDP1 is Brothered to EDP2 =A0and the midi clock is going to EDP1, = then do I have EDP1 set to IN and EDP2 to OUT? or both IN?)

when both are receiving clock from another device
both should be sync=3DIn.

WAIT.. did you mean IF B= OTH DEVICES HAVE A MIDI CABLE PLUGGED IN TO MIDI IN? (oops capslock) Cos on= ly 1 does.. that EDP1, but EDP2 is bothered to it.. thats ok right?

>>>In fact I was gonna mention this to those developing Ecoloop...=

Here I infact meant Evoloop I believe... remember me not soft me ha= rd!


The Ecoloop has separate subdivision of loop for quantise apart from the 8t= h/cycle.
So should do anything you want.

Ziss= eez velly interesteeeng...

M

--
= Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
<= /font>
--20cf3010e95115e4ef04b00fb4ae-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 20:35:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E502183463; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:35:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 692947533/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.189.24/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.189.24 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmECABvBpU5V0r0Y/2dsb2JhbAAMN5oUjDuFNgEBAQECAThABgsLGAkWDwkDAgECAUUcAYd8tAyIQASZIoxD X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,399,1315177200"; d="scan'208";a="692947533" Message-ID: <4EA5CC20.1000903@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 21:35:44 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: More EDP synch woes! References: <4EA53902.4050706@tiscali.co.uk> <4EA55AF4.9030401@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112585 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:35:46 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: > Thanks for the reply Andy, Im just waiting for Nikolas to go to sleep, > so I can nip down into the studio and try out some stuff.. I've got a feeling one of the edps has 8th/cycle=1. It's possible we already discussed that as a way to allow shorter cycles when synced. ...seems a bit familiar, but really I just don't recall > Just a couple of points... > > > mark francombe wrote: > > I will check that, (incidentaly, do I have setting correct for > midi IN sync.. If EDP1 is Brothered to EDP2 and the midi clock > is going to EDP1, then do I have EDP1 set to IN and EDP2 to OUT? > or both IN?) > > > when both are receiving clock from another device > both should be sync=In. > > > WAIT.. did you mean IF BOTH DEVICES HAVE A MIDI CABLE PLUGGED IN TO MIDI > IN? (oops capslock) Cos only 1 does.. that EDP1, but EDP2 is bothered to > it.. thats ok right? right, in that case edp2 is Sync=Out > > >>>In fact I was gonna mention this to those developing Ecoloop... > > Here I infact meant Evoloop I believe... remember me not soft me hard! Evoloop will be built on the Echoloop software and grow from it. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 21:34:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A7EE18345F; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 21:34:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=0ujaWkTbmXqkeSSBFsmrdRiOzHJAkCc22j3gW/bSmKo=; b=fdDBbvwQiKshjh/x94GPFmZJ1oFtCfs+KXoAdb8mn/jJJEBj86CL7V+lCgXHWHACsE T1xY/Zzc0ChPNJKgq+J23AsvyqAPTul03qa6o0yKAOX2Kh1VU5olpNHUZygMhg6D6GP3 5Dyd+j8Dn1N8dOrn+yY/9C9BjXHvVaOstAplM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: danielhlevine@gmail.com Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:34:48 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: KnE12Z8484kkdQb6LDNwngICrRI Message-ID: Subject: RC50 question From: daniel To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6de010835070204b012318f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112586 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 21:34:49 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6de010835070204b012318f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ello Kin, I want to import some audio onto my rc50--is there an easier way then plugging my iPod in the 1/4" jack? --0016e6de010835070204b012318f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ello Kin,

I want to import some audio onto my rc50--is there an easier way then plugging my iPod in the 1/4" jack?


--0016e6de010835070204b012318f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 21:40:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF33118345F; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 21:40:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=L89snIr1h3q4LR4QSaRtTbRUWw6GmBNNUzBaM6K/PWQ=; b=YR4aBoIYoi20hVJiNVRwB8lBkdlPwrJWK558YO4W4iBr+Kzf+Bu19v9LG4OqJ7M73K OO9xhjmk/3oKTwLseYEQi6KbtlZPLqwWplAya0eBHX6yhGsxZMijI1KD8AOCiht55sXu vBxHsmD8TmW52dMrfYNUYURxoe8JJE/Sn1svM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4EA5CC20.1000903@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4EA53902.4050706@tiscali.co.uk> <4EA55AF4.9030401@tiscali.co.uk> <4EA5CC20.1000903@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 23:40:26 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: gZBwCYn9hRqwJsySwXEe_liFlUU Message-ID: Subject: Re: More EDP synch woes! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf303f69b489495104b01246a3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112587 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 21:40:46 +0000 (UTC) --20cf303f69b489495104b01246a3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 10:35 PM, andy butler wrote: > I've got a feeling one of the edps has 8th/cycle=1. > > It's possible we already discussed that as a way to allow > shorter cycles when synced. > > ...seems a bit familiar, but really I just don't recall > OK, STATEMENT: EDP is simply the best thought out, if fucking complicated, and a bit hissy, godamn looper ever.. thank you! You are right Andy... and I have NEVER tried this... if MIDI=IN... the initial loop IS affected by 8th setting... Just incredibly obvious! I guess I was just underthe impression that the 8ths note setting was for dividing the loop for insert and quantised functions only... in which case a setting of 1 is a BIG chunk, but WHEN RECORDING FIRST LOOP with midi in, it gives you a small chunk.. GENIUS. In fact a setting of 1 will give you a loop that is 1/8th of a bar 2 = 1/4 a bar 4 = 1/2 a bar 8 = 1 bar 16 = 2 bars 32 = 4 bars 64 is also 4 bars and so are all setting above this... WONDERFUL Im off to the manual to find out why I missed this! Thanks again Andy, I am truly not worthy M -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --20cf303f69b489495104b01246a3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 10:35 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wr= ote:
I've got a feeling one of the edps has 8th/cycle=3D1.<= br>
It's possible we already discussed that as a way to allow
shorter cycles when synced.

...seems a bit familiar, but really I just don't recall


OK, STATEMENT:

EDP is simply the best thought out, = if fucking complicated, and a bit hissy,=A0 godamn looper ever.. thank you!=

You are right Andy... and I have NEVER tried this... if MIDI=3DIN... th= e initial loop IS affected by 8th setting... Just incredibly obvious! I gue= ss I was just underthe impression that the 8ths note setting was for dividi= ng the loop for insert and quantised functions only... in which case a sett= ing of 1 is a BIG chunk, but WHEN RECORDING FIRST LOOP with midi in, it giv= es you a small chunk.. GENIUS.

In fact a setting of 1 will give you a loop that is 1/8th of a bar
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2 =3D 1/4 a bar
4 =3D 1/2 a bar
8 =3D 1 bar<= br>16 =3D 2 bars
32 =3D 4 bars
64 is also 4 bars and so are all setti= ng above this...

WONDERFUL

Im off to the manual to find out why I missed this!
Thanks again Andy, I am truly not worthy

M

=A0

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Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
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--20cf303f69b489495104b01246a3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 21:47:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D86DF183460; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 21:47:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=KY8bvEOt9821c5lo20jjBANmwonXQPC9pqaBra5NcHM=; b=hEsgrpzmd1iRJjDcP8LqgE1C7RS6J9NB7jrY3d5+vE3w3/ymMSrcxiQ3ch+ymahOcV TmcVIb7MaArJXtw9LzqxJne4/JJF/rMNyOO0xHPRbV3YU6/ubWuOM/EYzO8tP7SHQFqy CHzFEVbjVr78NcBdUmoMPDTmSol+jVvaSeLMU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <20111024120429.156155wszh7pfnod@mail.kevinkissinger.com> References: <4EA553C8.3070408@cruzio.com> <20111024120429.156155wszh7pfnod@mail.kevinkissinger.com> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 23:46:56 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: C3Hzf-b_C5hR7ckP2q3085Cgx58 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 11 minute looping piece @ 11:11 on 11/11/11 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf303b4239c74f4e04b0125df7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112588 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 21:47:16 +0000 (UTC) --20cf303b4239c74f4e04b0125df7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Is it a bit obvious to suggest that they all be at 111 bpm? maybe not possible for the free improv people, but might be nice to mix track together afterwards, and make an album that is of course 111 minutes long? mark >> sets up their live looping rig somewhere >> and on Friday, November 11th at either >> 11:11 a.m. or 11:11 p.m. >> >> yours, rick walker >> >> >> > > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --20cf303b4239c74f4e04b0125df7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is it a bit obvious to suggest that they all be at 111 bpm?
maybe not po= ssible for the free improv people, but might be nice to mix track together = afterwards, and make an album that is of course 111 minutes long?

mark




sets up their live looping rig somewhere
and on Friday, =A0November 11th at either
11:11 a.m. or 11:11 p.m.

yours, =A0 rick walker









--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
<= /font>
--20cf303b4239c74f4e04b0125df7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 21:50:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C219B183463; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 21:50:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4EA5DD85.90004@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 14:49:57 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Atkinson CC: LOOPERS DELIGHT LIST Subject: Re: Re: 11 minute looping piece @ 11:11 on 11/11/11 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112589 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 21:50:06 +0000 (UTC) This is such a cool story and such a dream come true that I had a thought: Why don't you strap on a small recorder or a cell phone and record 11 minutes of 'found' or 'location' sound and post it with your story included....... ..........anyone who heard it could always loop it, right? congratulations on your dream come true. Rick On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Richard Atkinson wrote: > When I rejoined the list last year, I had told you guys I was into a new > activity of Ice Speed Skating. > > When I got into it seriously, I told myself, "Someday, I want to try Long > Track!", and "Someday, I'd really like to go to the Olympic Oval in Salt > Lake City." > > Some dreams come true! On the date and time of your 11/11 loop, I will be > warming up to get on the ice, at the Olympic Oval, for a master's age Long > Track Skating Clinic. Woooooooo!!! > > I will be thinking of my musical brethren, as I loop around in circles! > > Too bad it's not a Short Track Clinic, I guess, since our 'loop' is 111 > meters. That would seem somewhat fitting, eh? > > Ah well...400 meters will have to do (wheeze...puff...oh my > gawd...wheeze...puff) > > I look forward to hearing your creations. > > Regards, > Rich > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 21:53:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C37B5183460; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 21:53:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4EA5DE5E.9080409@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 14:53:34 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ra=FCl_Bonell?= CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: 11 minute looping piece @ 11:11 on 11/11/11 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112590 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 21:53:41 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Raül Bonell wrote: > what about a new Chain Tape collective release about it? Say, CT-11 :) > Michaels? also Stephan wrote: " The chain tape collective project would become a double CD, as it should contain 11 artists, which sums up to 144 minutes... Unless we chain together 5-6 duos...;-) " Personally, since I suggested this project, I'd prefer to keep it less formal and include a lot more people than could fit on a CT-project CD. Even a double CT project with 11 artists on it would end up being exlcusionary and I really wanted to involved the entire live looping community in this. To that end, I'm intend to create a Band Camp page where everyone can submit to (if that's possible) so there is a central place where everyone can go to hear the projects. with all due respect to the wonderful CT collective. yours, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 21:59:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 836BB183461; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 21:59:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4EA5DFCF.8020706@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 14:59:43 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Cheli-Colando CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: URGENT GLITCH! Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112591 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 21:59:50 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > How can you tell when the stage is level? > > Kevin many answers depending on what kind of musician you ask. If it's a drone metal drummer, the drool comes out of both sides of his mouth. If it's a sophisticated live looping musician who has created their own proprietary Max/MSP looping software then the drool creates a perfect circle around the back of their head, flowing continuously and defying all the known laws of astrophysics. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 22:15:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF365183463; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 22:15:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4EA5E38E.1040604@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 15:15:42 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: WHERE TO POST 11/11/11 @ 11:11? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112592 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 22:15:48 +0000 (UTC) about the 11 minutes on 11/11/11 @ 11:11 project: I'm on the horns of a dilemma here. I wanted this to be a fun project that didn't take any more work for people than improvising and posting the results for all to enjoy for free. I just realized that BandCamp is intended to help artists make money which is the opposite of what I intended (not that I"m opposed to people making money for their music, I'm a professional musician after all) but, in this case, it doesn't seem appropriate. Additionally, putting it out as a CT-Collective project will limit the number of people who will participate (unless I have this wrong) which I really don't want. What site could we use to merely post the results of this simple and fun exercise? Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 22:18:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DBDE1183466; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 22:18:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; bh=/UC+T0SfWfGBNRCruCzxb8dh1CN8+NUwf4xJ7bR1my0=; b=D7iEwLZ2G0qbb+WdkDdg02f9no6IGc0ya+w5BIycoTHZZs8haTRnvCDF/eFtgpmd8p BbshFFekJG6B2W8ol6CK7CxKaXWleKScEn5rElLi4El0NDD8izxWB+XxY4v6IE3w85cI 5wBF2G/lsmd8t7P4RLv1anAgtMMSoNwFTi6H4= Message-Id: <886B450A-AE71-4C26-BC35-64AFC1327E9C@gmail.com> From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4EA5E38E.1040604@cruzio.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--262374672 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: WHERE TO POST 11/11/11 @ 11:11? Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 15:18:45 -0700 References: <4EA5E38E.1040604@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112593 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 22:18:50 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--262374672 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Oct 24, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > What site could we use to merely post the results of this simple and > fun exercise? Soundcloud? BobC --Apple-Mail-1--262374672 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Oct 24, 2011, = at 3:15 PM, Rick Walker wrote:

What site = could we use to merely post the results of this simple and fun = exercise?


Soundcloud?




BobC= --Apple-Mail-1--262374672-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 23:06:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AE20183454; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 23:06:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_42bece75-55b6-4615-82e7-ea03048384f0_" X-Originating-IP: [70.134.83.219] From: nat grant To: Subject: RE: WHERE TO POST 11/11/11 @ 11:11? Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:06:35 +1100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4EA5E38E.1040604@cruzio.com> References: <4EA5E38E.1040604@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Oct 2011 23:06:36.0320 (UTC) FILETIME=[9459BA00:01CC92A1] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112594 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 23:06:37 +0000 (UTC) --_42bece75-55b6-4615-82e7-ea03048384f0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable you can totally make it a free download on bandcamp. i have two albums of m= y stuff up there for free - you just name your price when uploading=2C whic= h can be 0. it would just be a matter of setting up a bandcamp site with a = communal email address/password so different people could upload their trac= ks... (or everyone sending their tracks to one person to upload/manage) =3D) ------------------------------------- http://www.natgrantmusic.com = --_42bece75-55b6-4615-82e7-ea03048384f0_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
you can totally make it a free download on bandcamp. i have two albums of m= y stuff up there for free - you just name your price when uploading=2C whic= h can be 0. it would just be a matter of setting up a bandcamp site with a = communal email address/password so different people could upload their trac= ks... (or everyone sending their tracks to one person to upload/manage)
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=3D)

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= --_42bece75-55b6-4615-82e7-ea03048384f0_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 23:10:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D456183461; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 23:10:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=21FKYVtW926Hgk76h2YXNprO2QR7itO0X8lIMKOAsIE=; b=P3lr0YKPKcFFj7fBf55wzTougUFgp3BR5wu5osGyn1PRCrjuM/ZQmIxj0RudUQ1l6L m/gpNYmyhV5oeqa2pelSHazqxcy0gdqiR11q4eMWmYP3SLAQNx9/po2RqYC9QjBqYylX yJA0Uskh0yOChYZTF+Drly9jJ34TzxU6Iowlw= References: <4EA5E38E.1040604@cruzio.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: <4EA5E38E.1040604@cruzio.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8L1) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 01:10:42 +0200 Message-ID: <-6043703759151180610@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: WHERE TO POST 11/11/11 @ 11:11? To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <19tA6.A.c7F.2BfpOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112595 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 23:10:46 +0000 (UTC) use bandcamp Rick, just set the tracks to be free... Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 25 Oct 2011, at 00:15, Rick Walker wrote: > about the 11 minutes on 11/11/11 @ 11:11 project: > > I'm on the horns of a dilemma here. I wanted this to be a fun project that didn't take any more work for people than improvising and posting the results for all to enjoy for free. > > I just realized that BandCamp is intended to help artists make money which is the opposite of what I intended > (not that I"m opposed to people making money for their music, I'm a professional musician after all) > but, in this case, it doesn't seem appropriate. > > Additionally, putting it out as a CT-Collective project will limit the number of people who will participate (unless I have this wrong) which I really don't want. > > What site could we use to merely post the results of this simple and fun exercise? > > Rick > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 24 23:27:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D34B183461; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 23:27:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4EA5F442.3030302@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 16:26:58 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nat grant CC: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RE: WHERE TO POST 11/11/11 @ 11:11? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000308030204030704000601" Resent-Message-ID: <7MLj1C.A._RG.JRfpOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112596 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 23:27:06 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000308030204030704000601 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, nat grant wrote: > you can totally make it a free download on bandcamp. i have two albums > of my stuff up there for free - you just name your price when > uploading, which can be 0. it would just be a matter of setting up a > bandcamp site with a communal email address/password so different > people could upload their tracks... (or everyone sending their tracks > to one person to upload/manage) > > =) > > ------------------------------------- > http://www.natgrantmusic.com > > Yes, thanks, Nat..........two people at the Facebook Loopers Delight site just informed me of the same thing. I'll see if I can create a special 11/11/11 11:11 site there in the next few days. yours, Rick --------------000308030204030704000601 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, nat grant wrote:
you can totally make it a free download on bandcamp. i have two albums of my stuff up there for free - you just name your price when uploading, which can be 0. it would just be a matter of setting up a bandcamp site with a communal email address/password so different people could upload their tracks... (or everyone sending their tracks to one person to upload/manage)

=)

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http://www.natgrantmusic.com


Yes, thanks, Nat..........two people at the Facebook Loopers Delight site
just informed me of the same thing.

I'll see if I can create a special  11/11/11  11:11   site there in the next few days.

yours,  Rick
--------------000308030204030704000601-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 25 01:15:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 828EF183460; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 01:15:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5EgE+XZj6zScn/OWsa3U4dSVMzlW7YGYOaaaF804ps0=; b=JK4KgYi3Vkls/kAp7hAVEcoz46bOU9rDDrJdOLhaIUZOsKk8LhgqpwAbUY0xxaZLpN hxinVmmxo35nry7DHnXcYqYk6tly5wo11yMVmjr34Reya5iO+N/1uM+HUYjlBmmI1axS QFPw/baTiF9CkSe3020tcnlf2YovKeS2uLP7o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1B6199507BA14C789075D4FED588E8D0@your0548c161e1> <817EC5D2-6088-4E4D-9535-53E236D1E284@earthwormandfire.com> <24DF8009-B91F-4908-B4E1-BA7D3C12379A@trufun.com> <6228B276-6E57-4C8B-85C4-5DA02D7E8C84@earthwormandfire.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 03:15:00 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why...? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112597 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 01:15:02 +0000 (UTC) Still alive as you can see;-) wow girl i see you ve become a looper quicker than i ever did! last time you were getting started on the DL4,still using it? i hope we can catch up again when i make it up there next time keep looopin! hugs, L.A. On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Lindsey Walker wrote: > Yes, I know! The silliness is adorable. > > Louie, it's been forever! How are you? > > Lindsey > > On Oct 24, 2011 1:08 AM, "Louie Angulo" wro= te: >> >> Lindsey just silling around dont take it seriously no offenses meant >> say Gary do harmonica players really steal all the chicks? jeez how >> stupid have male guitarrists been carrying all those heavy 100 watt >> amps and putting spandex on:-) >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Lindsey Walker >> wrote: >> > Chaz, we're cool.=A0 Words, while well infused with consentual meaning= , >> > are a >> > violent substitution for concepts and often leave something to be >> > desired. >> > >> > Lindsey >> > >> > On Oct 23, 2011 7:01 PM, "chaz worm" wrote= : >> >> >> >> I hope you didn't take offense to my statements Lindsey. I didn't mea= n >> >> to >> >> speak for anyone but myself. >> >> I closely identify with your reasons too. I just like being brutally >> >> frank >> >> and selling off all my musician guy friends who have their girlfriend= s >> >> thinking they are deeper than your average guy. >> >> As for myself, not only am I not deeper than your average guy, I'm >> >> remarkably shallow. >> >> >> >> Chaz Worm - singer, bass, banjo >> >> Earth, Worm & Fire >> >> http://myspace.com/earthwormandfire >> >> http://YouTube.com/ChazWorm >> >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 23, 2011, at 9:03 PM, Lindsey Walker >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Thank you, Per.=A0 I was going to prepare some sarcastic comment like= , "I >> >> had no idea my motivating reason for looping was chicks.=A0 I always >> >> assumed I >> >> liked men.=A0 This realization will save me thousands on future >> >> psychiatry >> >> bills!" No offense is taken, at least, by me.=A0 I know that they wer= e >> >> speaking from their point of view and weren't meaning to be >> >> exclusionary. >> >> >> >> Now that I've opened my big mouth... >> >> >> >> I loop for two reasons, wait no three.=A0 The first falls under the, = "I >> >> don't need no stinkin' band" category.=A0 Looping presented itself as= a >> >> solution to a problem I thought I had: no bandmates!=A0 Ironically, b= y >> >> being >> >> content as a one girl band, I've found other solitary bands that want >> >> to >> >> work together.=A0 How beautiful is that? >> >> >> >> The second is that I developed a fascination with the gear.=A0 The >> >> experience of experimenting, with no right or wrong answers, with >> >> instant >> >> results, has been super stimulting and rewarding. >> >> >> >> Last but not least, looping was love at first sight.=A0 I was totally >> >> delighted at the possibilites it presented.=A0 Loops have always been= a >> >> theme >> >> in my life: whether it was loops of yarn when I used to teach knittin= g, >> >> spinning in circles doing hammer throw in college, or with sound.=A0 = It's >> >> essential. >> >> >> >> Lindsey >> >> >> >> www.soundcloud.com/reklawysdnil >> >> >> >> On Oct 23, 2011 3:29 PM, "David Gans" wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> That's where being a songwriter is an advantage. =A0I look down when= I'm >> >>> looping, but when I am singing I am out there making contact. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Oct 23, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: >> >>> >> >>> > girls dont like =A0looper shoogazers they wanna be looked at! >> >>> >> >>> David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com >> >>> Blog: =A0http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com >> >>> >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> www.luis-angulo.com >> > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 25 01:31:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24854183460; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 01:31:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=inpd/JWb1zm4RM+wGK4uT/uxqKTSm+G60tVulf9kFJA=; b=ZsS0FzxfNTZrarNwu3oCxSqgxGcUOCr6R4lyyaBgro1zupIrAY+ypmZZKvSnHpfdR9 lGjzEg0qBeBDToSmBy4MyJ8tZAriMeIKgzpnx9NCTTqGbylZqk6oi9vqffoQrjaa8lWV BV8Byq/VISzUh8HD8l/0waS4/VzuUoD8z8H1c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4EA3EF5B.9020806@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 03:31:11 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: URGENT GLITCH! Re: Sharing my pix/videos from YK2X+1 From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112598 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 01:31:11 +0000 (UTC) I hear you Richard,is a wonderful hight fasting,its amazing how much free time one all of the sudden has,you realize how much time preparing cooking and cleaning takes,not to mention the energy your body constantly needs to digest,a definetly spiritual experience and you have more time to loop as well:-) i fast every year around springtime 7 days,starting to let go with fruits,then soups and after the third day it was water from boiled vegetables only but last year i got a bit dizzy while at work so that was the last time for me with only water. I will be juicing this year,it should get me high as well;-) cheers Luis On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 5:12 PM, richard sales wrot= e: > Lucky you! =A0I wish I could forget to eat. > I do get washed away in inspiration but even in the whitest of waters, ev= en > when the heavens have opened up and the creation angels themselves are > roaring through the pinhole in 'reality', food is ever present. > I do forget things. =A0I forgot to smoke and accidentally quit smoking. = =A0Same > with beer - which I loved like my mother. > I did fast a decade or so ago for a couple weeks and got higher than any > drug I've ever taken. =A0It was fun, but I've been making up for it like = a > camel at the oasis ever since. > richard sales > www.glasswing.com > www.richardsales.com > www.hayleysales.com > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 23, 2011, at 6:13 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > > Then it hit me that I forgot to eat yesterday - > > On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Rick Walker wrote= : > > I'm so glad that someone else does something this silly > > when they are 'in the zone' =A0of work and creativity. > > I don't recommend it, =A0but I've had many a day where 12 hours into it > > I think......."shit, =A0I never ate, did I?" > > LOL! Usually I get reminded by an increasing feeling of hunger but now > when here in Scandinavia still on Californian time zone rhythm that > instant reminder doesn't work very well. But no matter eating or not I > always make sure I'm drinking enough. On some occasions I have fasted > for up to three weeks while only drinking and it felt totally ok and > doesn't affect you much at all - well, actually just a little but in a > positive way. But that might be just me; since I removed intestinal > cancer last year (surgery) I have never felt the need for fasting > again... maybe that was just some instinctual way of "self healing", > like you see some animals in nature take on now and then. > > Per > > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 25 01:32:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 397FE183461; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 01:32:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hVWYcsbc44N9fJh1rHXbdNpxv03Q9FRIk1/2zWwrDGg=; b=aDqPP/Jg4Y01XgGwgY6aDMqEsT9Pn8W3A3Y7ZrSC7WI+ercHjfSp/4AKSxDz55OFLT G+m0VitBSwWPozgM5Y3s1UNS5hfCySXHReq6KoDrwQovbFRORgVvl7h7bROWnyTecnTV /f5Bi9riFQ1Koti8872c2KsKUXvSvli6A3Sbw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4EA553C8.3070408@cruzio.com> References: <4EA553C8.3070408@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 03:32:32 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 11 minute looping piece @ 11:11 on 11/11/11 From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112599 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 01:32:32 +0000 (UTC) great idea bud count me in! Luis On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Here's what I propose: > > > That everyone on this list who feels like it, > > sets up their live looping rig somewhere > and on Friday, =A0November 11th at either > 11:11 a.m. or 11:11 p.m. > > they commence to > play and record a live looping piece of music > that last exactly 11 minutes long. =A0 =A0Put an alarm clock > up in front of you while you play. > > Then, =A0 put that improvisation up somewhere on the web > (bandcamp, dropbox, yousendit, facebook, myspace, =A0whatever) > > and let us all know where to find it. > > > This will be an 11 minute piece of music on 11/11/11 =A0at 11/11 a.m. or = 11/11 > p.m. > wherever one lives. > > > If anyone needs suggestions for interesting rhythms in 11/8 =A0or 11/4, > I'd be happy to oblige, but this is not necessary to make these pieces > manifest and > resonate. > > what do you all say? > > yours, =A0 rick walker > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 25 01:35:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE12A183461; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 01:35:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=kXLaD5MVCBJJNPTAca0TTKayiTzsiKbk4n/JvCDiJMQ=; b=IWAjim/DoXzl42ychUuphJ8Dtov80Xy9J43fPvJJxQ/X7jCU+Jt7l/Z9J2Vc0Usvuq 1X+KmWVWK33dTUWnGD5e4bUBhnr0/sPcFKhSJUyHwKqnXMff3mv6GE2p+8xzfLvlXzfe WeBB04OZJwppKOzEmf4xpgZV/OQvNxAaxD4eM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4EA5F442.3030302@cruzio.com> References: <4EA5F442.3030302@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 18:35:48 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: RE: WHERE TO POST 11/11/11 @ 11:11? From: Lindsey Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba613bf01b92bb04b0158f08 Resent-Message-ID: <37Zp1B.A.Zc.1JhpOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112600 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 01:35:49 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba613bf01b92bb04b0158f08 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ask and you shall receive! :) On Oct 24, 2011 4:27 PM, "Rick Walker" wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, nat grant wrote: > > you can totally make it a free download on bandcamp. i have two albums of > my stuff up there for free - you just name your price when uploading, which > can be 0. it would just be a matter of setting up a bandcamp site with a > communal email address/password so different people could upload their > tracks... (or everyone sending their tracks to one person to upload/manage) > > =) > > ------------------------------------- > http://www.natgrantmusic.com > > > Yes, thanks, Nat..........two people at the Facebook Loopers Delight site > > just informed me of the same thing. > > I'll see if I can create a special 11/11/11 11:11 site there in the > next few days. > > yours, Rick > --90e6ba613bf01b92bb04b0158f08 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ask and you shall receive! :)

On Oct 24, 2011 4:27 PM, "Rick Walker"= <looppool@cruzio.com> wro= te:
=20 =20 =20
On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, nat grant wrote:
=20
you can totally make it a free download on bandcamp. i have two albums of my stuff up there for free - you just name your price when uploading, which can be 0. it would just be a matter of setting up a bandcamp site with a communal email address/password so different people could upload their tracks... (or everyone sending their tracks to one person to upload/manage)

=3D)

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http:/= /www.natgrantmusic.com


Yes, thanks, Nat..........two people at the Facebook Loopers Delight site
just informed me of the same thing.

I'll see if I can create a special=A0 11/11/11=A0 11:11=A0=A0 sit= e there in the next few days.

yours,=A0 Rick
--90e6ba613bf01b92bb04b0158f08-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 25 01:45:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1FC02183463; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 01:45:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/ptbw1K0DupDOFmHynAVQNhHj48C+cHkedI3LMJkeuo=; b=l7AzMxtSnUHIBpwAZ0JTMTI0h20Of9iWE1S3LBocrX+3YhG6VzWueYJ8p/p5DtOlID m1z+KbtfWGgxbZsgh8LlsCuETqCORK0n1hGA7pmjrCdeOVTvrpXDd17p1Fkw4RTdevWP F030AvIPQMD5hDpd9l5WWCgGPM9MVUtGaWCu8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4EA551AD.6070101@cruzio.com> References: <4EA551AD.6070101@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 03:45:11 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: OT: 5/4 challenge From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112601 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 01:45:12 +0000 (UTC) wonderful! i love the polyrhytm guitars! On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > >>> On Oct 10, 2011, at 11:08 PM, chrisrover wrote: >>> >>> For your kind consideration, live looping with drums >>> in 5/4 and more than five good reasons to do so: >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DRBDZAJ3n0 >>> >>> >>> >>> > Really enjoyed this: =A0 =A0 I want to go out and solo in 5/4 now but my = beloved > is asleep > and the neighbors probably wouldn't take to kindly to it. > > Only one hour more to 5:55................I saw it on my clock 12 hours a= go > as I frequently do. > > Thanks, =A0christian! > > ps great video too! > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 25 01:47:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CABE218345F; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 01:47:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=fboLme/hG66aQ112bdQhOis10s29VwlVmOYcpZhJcXw=; b=B7ofgL8HwUHGPMRicDpYKIUyGcJZ7EI5LNWiZoB9A336P/JDFp8r0eDFSUaqoHFRp1 Cnw/V2BXwzcFAUgmRpmIFruhfH62sBvbzr++CquWwB0XodjyZTo21NeI0+idCEDTk81j 7XAjGDZqw4hje+Q+ocOKX2Rdwz1zn+l+nsGMA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1B6199507BA14C789075D4FED588E8D0@your0548c161e1> <817EC5D2-6088-4E4D-9535-53E236D1E284@earthwormandfire.com> <24DF8009-B91F-4908-B4E1-BA7D3C12379A@trufun.com> <6228B276-6E57-4C8B-85C4-5DA02D7E8C84@earthwormandfire.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 18:47:22 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why...? From: Lindsey Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec52999eb7d32ba04b015b826 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112602 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 01:47:23 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec52999eb7d32ba04b015b826 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Louie, Aww, thank you, we all loop in our own voice. I've been tinkering with reason and fruityloops but my main loop platform is the digitech jamman. I also sometimes use a boss rc20xl to record onto the jamman. Beyond that, I loop by participating in circuitous events and patterns of behavior. (Hopefully not shorting myself!) Yes! Please do be in touch! Pleasant looping, Lindsey On Oct 24, 2011 6:15 PM, "Louie Angulo" wrote: > Still alive as you can see;-) > wow girl i see you ve become a looper quicker than i ever did! > last time you were getting started on the DL4,still using it? > i hope we can catch up again when i make it up there next time > keep looopin! > hugs, > L.A. > > > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Lindsey Walker > wrote: > > Yes, I know! The silliness is adorable. > > > > Louie, it's been forever! How are you? > > > > Lindsey > > > > On Oct 24, 2011 1:08 AM, "Louie Angulo" > wrote: > >> > >> Lindsey just silling around dont take it seriously no offenses meant > >> say Gary do harmonica players really steal all the chicks? jeez how > >> stupid have male guitarrists been carrying all those heavy 100 watt > >> amps and putting spandex on:-) > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Lindsey Walker > >> wrote: > >> > Chaz, we're cool. Words, while well infused with consentual meaning, > >> > are a > >> > violent substitution for concepts and often leave something to be > >> > desired. > >> > > >> > Lindsey > >> > > >> > On Oct 23, 2011 7:01 PM, "chaz worm" > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> I hope you didn't take offense to my statements Lindsey. I didn't > mean > >> >> to > >> >> speak for anyone but myself. > >> >> I closely identify with your reasons too. I just like being brutally > >> >> frank > >> >> and selling off all my musician guy friends who have their > girlfriends > >> >> thinking they are deeper than your average guy. > >> >> As for myself, not only am I not deeper than your average guy, I'm > >> >> remarkably shallow. > >> >> > >> >> Chaz Worm - singer, bass, banjo > >> >> Earth, Worm & Fire > >> >> http://myspace.com/earthwormandfire > >> >> http://YouTube.com/ChazWorm > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Oct 23, 2011, at 9:03 PM, Lindsey Walker < > lindsey.walker@gmail.com> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Thank you, Per. I was going to prepare some sarcastic comment like, > "I > >> >> had no idea my motivating reason for looping was chicks. I always > >> >> assumed I > >> >> liked men. This realization will save me thousands on future > >> >> psychiatry > >> >> bills!" No offense is taken, at least, by me. I know that they were > >> >> speaking from their point of view and weren't meaning to be > >> >> exclusionary. > >> >> > >> >> Now that I've opened my big mouth... > >> >> > >> >> I loop for two reasons, wait no three. The first falls under the, "I > >> >> don't need no stinkin' band" category. Looping presented itself as a > >> >> solution to a problem I thought I had: no bandmates! Ironically, by > >> >> being > >> >> content as a one girl band, I've found other solitary bands that want > >> >> to > >> >> work together. How beautiful is that? > >> >> > >> >> The second is that I developed a fascination with the gear. The > >> >> experience of experimenting, with no right or wrong answers, with > >> >> instant > >> >> results, has been super stimulting and rewarding. > >> >> > >> >> Last but not least, looping was love at first sight. I was totally > >> >> delighted at the possibilites it presented. Loops have always been a > >> >> theme > >> >> in my life: whether it was loops of yarn when I used to teach > knitting, > >> >> spinning in circles doing hammer throw in college, or with sound. > It's > >> >> essential. > >> >> > >> >> Lindsey > >> >> > >> >> www.soundcloud.com/reklawysdnil > >> >> > >> >> On Oct 23, 2011 3:29 PM, "David Gans" wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> That's where being a songwriter is an advantage. I look down when > I'm > >> >>> looping, but when I am singing I am out there making contact. > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> On Oct 23, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> > girls dont like looper shoogazers they wanna be looked at! > >> >>> > >> >>> David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > >> >>> Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com > >> >>> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> www.luis-angulo.com > >> > > > > > > -- > www.luis-angulo.com > > --bcaec52999eb7d32ba04b015b826 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Louie,

Aww, thank you, we all loop in our own voice.

I've been tinkering with reason and fruityloops but my main loop pla= tform is the digitech jamman.=A0 I also sometimes use a boss rc20xl to reco= rd onto the jamman.=A0 Beyond that, I loop by participating in circuitous e= vents and patterns of behavior.=A0 (Hopefully not shorting myself!)

Yes! Please do be in touch!

Pleasant looping,
Lindsey

On Oct 24, 2011 6:15 PM, "Louie Angulo"= ; <louie.angulo@googlemai= l.com> wrote:
Still alive as you can see;-)
wow girl i see you ve become a looper quicker than i ever did!
last time you were getting started on the DL4,still using it?
i hope we can catch up again when i make it up there next time
keep looopin!
hugs,
L.A.



On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Lindsey Walker
<lindsey.walker@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, I know! The silliness is adorable.
>
> Louie, it's been forever! How are you?
>
> Lindsey
>
> On Oct 24, 2011 1:08 AM, "Louie Angulo" <
louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote: >>
>> Lindsey just silling around dont take it seriously no offenses mea= nt
>> say Gary do harmonica players really steal all the chicks? jeez ho= w
>> stupid have male guitarrists been carrying all those heavy 100 wat= t
>> amps and putting spandex on:-)
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Lindsey Walker
>> <lindsey.walker@gma= il.com> wrote:
>> > Chaz, we're cool.=A0 Words, while well infused with conse= ntual meaning,
>> > are a
>> > violent substitution for concepts and often leave something t= o be
>> > desired.
>> >
>> > Lindsey
>> >
>> > On Oct 23, 2011 7:01 PM, "chaz worm" <chaz@earthwormandfire.com> wrote:=
>> >>
>> >> I hope you didn't take offense to my statements Linds= ey. I didn't mean
>> >> to
>> >> speak for anyone but myself.
>> >> I closely identify with your reasons too. I just like bei= ng brutally
>> >> frank
>> >> and selling off all my musician guy friends who have thei= r girlfriends
>> >> thinking they are deeper than your average guy.
>> >> As for myself, not only am I not deeper than your average= guy, I'm
>> >> remarkably shallow.
>> >>
>> >> Chaz Worm - singer, bass, banjo
>> >> Earth, Worm & Fire
>> >> http://myspace.com/earthwormandfire
>> >> http://YouTube.com/ChazWorm
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Oct 23, 2011, at 9:03 PM, Lindsey Walker <lindsey.walker@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Thank you, Per.=A0 I was going to prepare some sarcastic = comment like, "I
>> >> had no idea my motivating reason for looping was chicks.= =A0 I always
>> >> assumed I
>> >> liked men.=A0 This realization will save me thousands on = future
>> >> psychiatry
>> >> bills!" No offense is taken, at least, by me.=A0 I k= now that they were
>> >> speaking from their point of view and weren't meaning= to be
>> >> exclusionary.
>> >>
>> >> Now that I've opened my big mouth...
>> >>
>> >> I loop for two reasons, wait no three.=A0 The first falls= under the, "I
>> >> don't need no stinkin' band" category.=A0 Lo= oping presented itself as a
>> >> solution to a problem I thought I had: no bandmates!=A0 I= ronically, by
>> >> being
>> >> content as a one girl band, I've found other solitary= bands that want
>> >> to
>> >> work together.=A0 How beautiful is that?
>> >>
>> >> The second is that I developed a fascination with the gea= r.=A0 The
>> >> experience of experimenting, with no right or wrong answe= rs, with
>> >> instant
>> >> results, has been super stimulting and rewarding.
>> >>
>> >> Last but not least, looping was love at first sight.=A0 I= was totally
>> >> delighted at the possibilites it presented.=A0 Loops have= always been a
>> >> theme
>> >> in my life: whether it was loops of yarn when I used to t= each knitting,
>> >> spinning in circles doing hammer throw in college, or wit= h sound.=A0 It's
>> >> essential.
>> >>
>> >> Lindsey
>> >>
>> >> www.soundcloud.com/reklawysdnil
>> >>
>> >> On Oct 23, 2011 3:29 PM, "David Gans" <david@trufun.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> That's where being a songwriter is an advantage. = =A0I look down when I'm
>> >>> looping, but when I am singing I am out there making = contact.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Oct 23, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Louie Angulo wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > girls dont like =A0looper shoogazers they wanna = be looked at!
>> >>>
>> >>> David Gans - davi= d@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
>> >>> Blog: =A0
http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com
>> >>>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> www.luis-= angulo.com
>>
>



--
www.luis-angulo.co= m

--bcaec52999eb7d32ba04b015b826-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 25 01:54:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C5F7183475; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 01:54:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=66oT21IHeD9TZT4rjxLq4kOEvL6+rqMuXhPzZ/nG4DM=; b=qdRwIcDgtKE7XAmAYQkhRw/HLiahf6wuLFU+YUKcwvTl5B9S2Qgkna0KO6BMfvQrRM 1EFqUHFACbNhylRGNvUqCTDok7ZZ0YtizNMBlNgn2BJ1sW2uC/e5H8/kMh6bqUQA547q y4kG3zLvC7aDxSaaqJW6U6h0ZnziZq2uH1mXo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1B6199507BA14C789075D4FED588E8D0@your0548c161e1> <817EC5D2-6088-4E4D-9535-53E236D1E284@earthwormandfire.com> <24DF8009-B91F-4908-B4E1-BA7D3C12379A@trufun.com> <6228B276-6E57-4C8B-85C4-5DA02D7E8C84@earthwormandfire.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 03:54:56 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why...? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112603 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 01:54:57 +0000 (UTC) wow wonderful,im also using the Jamman stereo and M9 to see what i can do with those 2 lately,for more advanced looping is the EDP or mobius software which are still awesome mind blowing for me... loop on louie On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:47 AM, Lindsey Walker wrote: > Louie, > > Aww, thank you, we all loop in our own voice. > > I've been tinkering with reason and fruityloops but my main loop platform= is > the digitech jamman.=A0 I also sometimes use a boss rc20xl to record onto= the > jamman.=A0 Beyond that, I loop by participating in circuitous events and > patterns of behavior.=A0 (Hopefully not shorting myself!) > > Yes! Please do be in touch! > > Pleasant looping, > Lindsey > > On Oct 24, 2011 6:15 PM, "Louie Angulo" wro= te: >> >> Still alive as you can see;-) >> wow girl i see you ve become a looper quicker than i ever did! >> last time you were getting started on the DL4,still using it? >> i hope we can catch up again when i make it up there next time >> keep looopin! >> hugs, >> L.A. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Lindsey Walker >> wrote: >> > Yes, I know! The silliness is adorable. >> > >> > Louie, it's been forever! How are you? >> > >> > Lindsey >> > >> > On Oct 24, 2011 1:08 AM, "Louie Angulo" >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Lindsey just silling around dont take it seriously no offenses meant >> >> say Gary do harmonica players really steal all the chicks? jeez how >> >> stupid have male guitarrists been carrying all those heavy 100 watt >> >> amps and putting spandex on:-) >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Lindsey Walker >> >> wrote: >> >> > Chaz, we're cool.=A0 Words, while well infused with consentual mean= ing, >> >> > are a >> >> > violent substitution for concepts and often leave something to be >> >> > desired. >> >> > >> >> > Lindsey >> >> > >> >> > On Oct 23, 2011 7:01 PM, "chaz worm" >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> I hope you didn't take offense to my statements Lindsey. I didn't >> >> >> mean >> >> >> to >> >> >> speak for anyone but myself. >> >> >> I closely identify with your reasons too. I just like being brutal= ly >> >> >> frank >> >> >> and selling off all my musician guy friends who have their >> >> >> girlfriends >> >> >> thinking they are deeper than your average guy. >> >> >> As for myself, not only am I not deeper than your average guy, I'm >> >> >> remarkably shallow. >> >> >> >> >> >> Chaz Worm - singer, bass, banjo >> >> >> Earth, Worm & Fire >> >> >> http://myspace.com/earthwormandfire >> >> >> http://YouTube.com/ChazWorm >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 23, 2011, at 9:03 PM, Lindsey Walker >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Thank you, Per.=A0 I was going to prepare some sarcastic comment l= ike, >> >> >> "I >> >> >> had no idea my motivating reason for looping was chicks.=A0 I alwa= ys >> >> >> assumed I >> >> >> liked men.=A0 This realization will save me thousands on future >> >> >> psychiatry >> >> >> bills!" No offense is taken, at least, by me.=A0 I know that they = were >> >> >> speaking from their point of view and weren't meaning to be >> >> >> exclusionary. >> >> >> >> >> >> Now that I've opened my big mouth... >> >> >> >> >> >> I loop for two reasons, wait no three.=A0 The first falls under th= e, >> >> >> "I >> >> >> don't need no stinkin' band" category.=A0 Looping presented itself= as >> >> >> a >> >> >> solution to a problem I thought I had: no bandmates!=A0 Ironically= , by >> >> >> being >> >> >> content as a one girl band, I've found other solitary bands that >> >> >> want >> >> >> to >> >> >> work together.=A0 How beautiful is that? >> >> >> >> >> >> The second is that I developed a fascination with the gear.=A0 The >> >> >> experience of experimenting, with no right or wrong answers, with >> >> >> instant >> >> >> results, has been super stimulting and rewarding. >> >> >> >> >> >> Last but not least, looping was love at first sight.=A0 I was tota= lly >> >> >> delighted at the possibilites it presented.=A0 Loops have always b= een >> >> >> a >> >> >> theme >> >> >> in my life: whether it was loops of yarn when I used to teach >> >> >> knitting, >> >> >> spinning in circles doing hammer throw in college, or with sound. >> >> >> It's >> >> >> essential. >> >> >> >> >> >> Lindsey >> >> >> >> >> >> www.soundcloud.com/reklawysdnil >> >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 23, 2011 3:29 PM, "David Gans" wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> That's where being a songwriter is an advantage. =A0I look down w= hen >> >> >>> I'm >> >> >>> looping, but when I am singing I am out there making contact. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> On Oct 23, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> > girls dont like =A0looper shoogazers they wanna be looked at! >> >> >>> >> >> >>> David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com >> >> >>> Blog: =A0http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> www.luis-angulo.com >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> www.luis-angulo.com >> > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 25 02:05:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C95F2183474; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 02:05:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=KFtZmY3sL1bt0lC2fx+uSJa3iQ4Jm6IuHld8P0c2UTE=; b=UcF4Ncq1FzZ/pN4OysbR8lld+gI0buYshnCm+5b7+hIfzKslgjJT/krUlegtsU/nXa Jg61/JCn5VZ+v0HWXTLsEO63vNymQ3NxB00QSzdQ46mtxdSz5qaG+MTL5hSqB/n0GXJa dbXNPTDSjRShA9kxMelOiGyfQfQuj6sKE8IMs= References: <4EA5E38E.1040604@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4EA5E38E.1040604@cruzio.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 8C148) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <8A4541F3-2C1F-4109-BDBB-F5EE83E1F185@gmail.com> Cc: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" X-Mailer: iPod Mail (8C148) From: Jimgoodinmusic Subject: Re: WHERE TO POST 11/11/11 @ 11:11? Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 22:05:32 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112604 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 02:05:48 +0000 (UTC) Rick bandcamp is still very usable for free or pay what you want however you= could do this project as we do on ImprovFriday, post all trax to DripBpx pu= blic then post the links all together on in however you want to currate it. = You could do it all on the LD FB page. Possibly create a Ning page though I= 'm not sure it's free as we pay for hosting ImprovFriday. Jim On Oct 24, 2011, at 6:15 PM, Rick pWalker wrote: > about the 11 minutes on 11/11/11 @ 11:11 project: >=20 > I'm on the horns of a dilemma here. I wanted this to be a fun project th= at didn't take any more work for people than improvising and posting the res= ults for all to enjoy for free. >=20 > I just realized that BandCamp is intended to help artists make money which= is the opposite of what I intended > (not that I"m opposed to people making money for their music, I'm a profe= ssional musician after all) > but, in this case, it doesn't seem appropriate. >=20 > Additionally, putting it out as a CT-Collective project will limit the num= ber of people who will participate (unless I have this wrong) which I really= don't want. >=20 > What site could we use to merely post the results of this simple and fun e= xercise? >=20 > Rick >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 25 02:33:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 23AE818345F; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 02:33:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VdV82BRp/aA0QaT66HsizH45aM+a259e36UZkoCOyQU=; b=bzfaH7yjG8yaTsnOVitkJo7FCrh9NdKs00cOtRkqYU9l+7iz67qMazhqb10QAB7be0 JyROB66KP9MEBlAtUkP1EPUkBWN5q6R3+cRIp/ldH3ODtjIE6HwOKHjR6xY0yL3/588B /oDbfbBsNCfuG2tIOD0ffXBfSCX9z8bWc5XJU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4EA553C8.3070408@cruzio.com> References: <4EA553C8.3070408@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 11:33:13 +0900 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 11 minute looping piece @ 11:11 on 11/11/11 From: michael noble To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <0T2FhB.A.rtB.q_hpOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112605 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 02:33:14 +0000 (UTC) I don't post here much but On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Here's what I propose: > > > That everyone on this list who feels like it, > > sets up their live looping rig somewhere > and on Friday, =A0November 11th at either > 11:11 a.m. or 11:11 p.m. > > they commence to > play and record a live looping piece of music > that last exactly 11 minutes long. =A0 =A0Put an alarm clock > up in front of you while you play. > > Then, =A0 put that improvisation up somewhere on the web > (bandcamp, dropbox, yousendit, facebook, myspace, =A0whatever) > > and let us all know where to find it. > > > This will be an 11 minute piece of music on 11/11/11 =A0at 11/11 a.m. or = 11/11 > p.m. > wherever one lives. > > > If anyone needs suggestions for interesting rhythms in 11/8 =A0or 11/4, > I'd be happy to oblige, but this is not necessary to make these pieces > manifest and > resonate. > > what do you all say? > > yours, =A0 rick walker > > --=20 networking practice for sound environments :: http://nowhere.iamnobody.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 25 02:47:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F6A318345F; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 02:47:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0D2BDFC0FB044F9E9F26FEE6357D92EC@ccs.local> From: "BC" To: References: <4EA553C8.3070408@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: 11 minute looping piece @ 11:11 on 11/11/11 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 22:47:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 111024-1, 10/24/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112606 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 02:47:48 +0000 (UTC) I'm in. This will be my first piece presented to the list members. Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" To: "LIVE LOOPING PROMO" ; "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 8:02 AM Subject: 11 minute looping piece @ 11:11 on 11/11/11 > Here's what I propose: > > > That everyone on this list who feels like it, > > sets up their live looping rig somewhere > and on Friday, November 11th at either > 11:11 a.m. or 11:11 p.m. > > they commence to > play and record a live looping piece of music > that last exactly 11 minutes long. Put an alarm clock > up in front of you while you play. > > Then, put that improvisation up somewhere on the web > (bandcamp, dropbox, yousendit, facebook, myspace, whatever) > > and let us all know where to find it. > > > This will be an 11 minute piece of music on 11/11/11 at 11/11 a.m. or > 11/11 p.m. > wherever one lives. > > > If anyone needs suggestions for interesting rhythms in 11/8 or 11/4, > I'd be happy to oblige, but this is not necessary to make these pieces > manifest and > resonate. > > what do you all say? > > yours, rick walker > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 25 02:52:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E351183452; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 02:52:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=cFTQgAJr+M+JEk05J7JQYlUBUjTjm5n04Pd4vYJAgVw=; b=L5yWRt7ZV+Cm+advs+eHvF1m67myI8K8aVJv11hrgy6Uv1V6QwAvOqYALJd1knMsg2 PnrNQ0dRvDU7kpONFkPx0N88RQ9gS+UoTEpNQebyWCWvVAQWOCje/Gqo2CVA05JNwIYs xY3rxmkyfUupGcVGRFOO1ACVy6gGOdJVHcHtA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8A4541F3-2C1F-4109-BDBB-F5EE83E1F185@gmail.com> References: <4EA5E38E.1040604@cruzio.com> <8A4541F3-2C1F-4109-BDBB-F5EE83E1F185@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 22:52:17 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: WHERE TO POST 11/11/11 @ 11:11? From: Jim Goodin To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3078115ca3c45e04b016a0c1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112607 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 02:52:18 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3078115ca3c45e04b016a0c1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable correction that was DropBox (written on a portable originally) but seems like everyone has echo'd BC and use it for free so forgive the echo. On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Jimgoodinmusic wrote: > Rick bandcamp is still very usable for free or pay what you want however > you could do this project as we do on ImprovFriday, post all trax to Drip= Bpx > public then post the links all together on in however you want to currate > it. You could do it all on the LD FB page. Possibly create a Ning page > though I'm not sure it's free as we pay for hosting ImprovFriday. > > Jim > On Oct 24, 2011, at 6:15 PM, Rick pWalker wrote: > > > about the 11 minutes on 11/11/11 @ 11:11 project: > > > > I'm on the horns of a dilemma here. I wanted this to be a fun project > that didn't take any more work for people than improvising and posting th= e > results for all to enjoy for free. > > > > I just realized that BandCamp is intended to help artists make money > which is the opposite of what I intended > > (not that I"m opposed to people making money for their music, I'm a > professional musician after all) > > but, in this case, it doesn't seem appropriate. > > > > Additionally, putting it out as a CT-Collective project will limit the > number of people who will participate (unless I have this wrong) which I > really don't want. > > > > What site could we use to merely post the results of this simple and fu= n > exercise? > > > > Rick > > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf3078115ca3c45e04b016a0c1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable correction that was DropBox (written on a portable originally) but seems li= ke everyone has echo'd BC and use it for free so forgive the echo. =A0<= br>
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Jimgood= inmusic <j= imgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Rick bandcamp is still very usable for free= or pay what you want however you could do this project as we do on ImprovF= riday, post all trax to DripBpx public then post the links all together on = in however you want to currate it. =A0You could do it all on the LD FB page= . Possibly create a Ning page though I'm not sure it's free as we p= ay for hosting ImprovFriday.

Jim
On Oct 24, 2011, at 6:15 PM, Rick pWalker= <looppool@cruzio.com> wro= te:

> about the 11 minutes on 11/11/11 @ 11:11 project:
>
> I'm on the horns of a dilemma here. =A0 I wanted this to be a fun = project that didn't take any more work for people than improvising and = posting the results for all to enjoy for free.
>
> I just realized that BandCamp is intended to help artists make money w= hich is the opposite of what I intended
> (not that I"m opposed to people making money for their music, =A0= I'm a professional musician after all)
> but, in this case, =A0it doesn't seem appropriate.
>
> Additionally, putting it out as a CT-Collective project will limit the= number of people who will participate (unless I have this wrong) which I r= eally don't want.
>
> What site could we use to merely post the results of this simple and f= un exercise?
>
> Rick
>



--
= From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Go= odin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will bene= fit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--20cf3078115ca3c45e04b016a0c1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 25 03:18:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B995B183463; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 03:18:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=IzGRpaXmAfwMYvr4/DlXHhKxaxF1ZMUs/+T7sjrIwHg=; b=VhYGoCcAlTaPUjrkRGYa+RIFXLVHP66LbUeFvomfaCcJ2L8duXO9RgGoE61R32CBVw Z5YIHSG+rCrU2RUfAD3oHG5zAohS/znfgboeimJczUfzQd9rUlPfhx8clHLbYKz7yQZ2 qlrfwOQmLMldRgBeFzAxEJg6ESckWvEaRFzwE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4EA553C8.3070408@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 12:18:29 +0900 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 11 minute looping piece @ 11:11 on 11/11/11 From: michael noble To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112608 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 03:18:30 +0000 (UTC) yikes, premature communication... that should have said, I don't post here much but count me in. -michael On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:33 AM, michael noble wrote: > I don't post here much but > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Rick Walker wrote: >> Here's what I propose: >> >> >> That everyone on this list who feels like it, >> >> sets up their live looping rig somewhere >> and on Friday, =A0November 11th at either >> 11:11 a.m. or 11:11 p.m. >> >> they commence to >> play and record a live looping piece of music >> that last exactly 11 minutes long. =A0 =A0Put an alarm clock >> up in front of you while you play. >> >> Then, =A0 put that improvisation up somewhere on the web >> (bandcamp, dropbox, yousendit, facebook, myspace, =A0whatever) >> >> and let us all know where to find it. >> >> >> This will be an 11 minute piece of music on 11/11/11 =A0at 11/11 a.m. or= 11/11 >> p.m. >> wherever one lives. >> >> >> If anyone needs suggestions for interesting rhythms in 11/8 =A0or 11/4, >> I'd be happy to oblige, but this is not necessary to make these pieces >> manifest and >> resonate. >> >> what do you all say? >> >> yours, =A0 rick walker >> >> > > > > -- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 25 06:26:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47CF1183463; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 06:26:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 06:26:39 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 01:21:45 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Doctor T, Forbes Graham, Glynis Lomon, Andrea Pensado Friday Outpost 186 Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112609 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 06:26:40 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, Visual Music LIVE continues at Outpost 186 on Friday Oct. 28, at 8 PM. -- I'll be doing video improvisations with Forbes Graham - trumpet Glynis Lomon -- cello and voice Andrea Pensado -- electronics I'll do a duet with each musician, and all four of us will play a full set. Dr. T -- Video Projections My projections are produced by mixing multiple DVD sources a video mixer and effects processors. The sources consist of computer-manipulated original material derived from my still photography and videography. The original subject matter is usually recognizable, but sometimes processed to complete abstraction. Sometimes the projections and music respond directly to each other -- sometimes they simply co-exist. Outpost 186, 186 Hampshire St (in the back), near Inman Square, Cambridge MA Suggested donation, $10 617.876.0860 ~ all ages ~ http://www.zeitgeist-outpost.org Many of my finished video pieces (both studio and live) can be seen at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld. with a piece from the Spring Series at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxBtaJajCkU Those of you who attend or perform at events at Outpost 186 may find my photo essay "Improvisations from an Outpost" http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157624670849749/ to be of interest, -- My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 25 08:39:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 452B4183454; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 08:39:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 683078158/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.19.72/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.19.72 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiACAPFzpk5YbRNI/2dsb2JhbAAMN5oVkXIBAQEBAzhAEQsYCRYPCQMCAQIBRRwBvFmIQwSZIoxF X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,403,1315177200"; d="scan'208";a="683078158" Message-ID: <4EA675B7.8040005@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 09:39:19 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RC50 question References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112610 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 08:39:10 +0000 (UTC) You can connect by USB to a computer. (quality will be better too). it's in the manual (I don't have one, or an RC-50) andy daniel wrote: > Ello Kin, > > I want to import some audio onto my rc50--is there an easier way then > plugging my iPod in the 1/4" jack? > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 25 09:42:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AABB6183460; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 09:42:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=fWVn90FwGwcP4zgJoLN725rTJIHHCrJsXqutBe1iGHo=; b=ZdpJj5i4GrSURAS8JQUn4HdeGdIsnhLJJkHA8Cshh1vmaKBsNP30fRiEf49Fw3pl/J re92rhaoLrPQsWz1mPubu4/sywpGSvBUxElroPT9y9cdT6sqmj47j2j+lBeNaBRSltAC hAmVPJ+793qUr1DOWTQFsXh7S2Y64n/Su0pk0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8A4541F3-2C1F-4109-BDBB-F5EE83E1F185@gmail.com> References: <4EA5E38E.1040604@cruzio.com> <8A4541F3-2C1F-4109-BDBB-F5EE83E1F185@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 12:42:52 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: WHERE TO POST 11/11/11 @ 11:11? From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015176f06f2f65fbf04b01c5c7b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112611 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 09:42:54 +0000 (UTC) --0015176f06f2f65fbf04b01c5c7b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Jim, Ning's are not free anymore, so you can count them out. 2011/10/25 Jimgoodinmusic > Rick bandcamp is still very usable for free or pay what you want however > you could do this project as we do on ImprovFriday, post all trax to > DripBpx public then post the links all together on in however you want to > currate it. You could do it all on the LD FB page. Possibly create a Ning > page though I'm not sure it's free as we pay for hosting ImprovFriday. > > Jim > On Oct 24, 2011, at 6:15 PM, Rick pWalker wrote: > > > about the 11 minutes on 11/11/11 @ 11:11 project: > > > > I'm on the horns of a dilemma here. I wanted this to be a fun project > that didn't take any more work for people than improvising and posting the > results for all to enjoy for free. > > > > I just realized that BandCamp is intended to help artists make money > which is the opposite of what I intended > > (not that I"m opposed to people making money for their music, I'm a > professional musician after all) > > but, in this case, it doesn't seem appropriate. > > > > Additionally, putting it out as a CT-Collective project will limit the > number of people who will participate (unless I have this wrong) which I > really don't want. > > > > What site could we use to merely post the results of this simple and fun > exercise? > > > > Rick > > > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --0015176f06f2f65fbf04b01c5c7b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jim, Ning's are not free anymore, so you can count them out.

2011/10/25 Jimgoodinmusic <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>
Rick bandcamp is still very usable for free= or pay what you want however you could do this project as we do on ImprovF= riday, post all trax to DripBpx public then post the links all together on = in however you want to currate it. =A0You could do it all on the LD FB page= . Possibly create a Ning page though I'm not sure it's free as we p= ay for hosting ImprovFriday.

Jim
On Oct 24, 2011, at 6:15 PM, Rick pWalker= <looppool@cruzio.com> wro= te:

> about the 11 minutes on 11/11/11 @ 11:11 project:
>
> I'm on the horns of a dilemma here. =A0 I wanted this to be a fun = project that didn't take any more work for people than improvising and = posting the results for all to enjoy for free.
>
> I just realized that BandCamp is intended to help artists make money w= hich is the opposite of what I intended
> (not that I"m opposed to people making money for their music, =A0= I'm a professional musician after all)
> but, in this case, =A0it doesn't seem appropriate.
>
> Additionally, putting it out as a CT-Collective project will limit the= number of people who will participate (unless I have this wrong) which I r= eally don't want.
>
> What site could we use to merely post the results of this simple and f= un exercise?
>
> Rick
>




--
Petri Lahti= nen

http:= //www.petrilahtinen.com

--0015176f06f2f65fbf04b01c5c7b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 25 09:43:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9212818345F; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 09:43:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=L9CA67RKvkVAbj17j00+6LnUr/SiUYYdLq6cNKRrWGI=; b=cUY0LsIdNOxJY8rWp78Rx787Rr6/HBrGecMwNatOVvt7RWsMW0Y2a5jbUY2e79BICS 2jEezk8flNWV8p9fjXPgSneTCO8x4PymnUhPi1SdkRLLl9P+TqaPQDwq8VHwaOOpnva7 uf71zlfqbyyH22PljL9D7rWqbxIN2NQNSRRio= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4EA5E38E.1040604@cruzio.com> <8A4541F3-2C1F-4109-BDBB-F5EE83E1F185@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 12:43:42 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: WHERE TO POST 11/11/11 @ 11:11? From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015176f09c8ff152404b01c5fd8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112612 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 09:43:43 +0000 (UTC) --0015176f09c8ff152404b01c5fd8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ning_%28website%29#Removal_of_free_networks 2011/10/25 Petri Lahtinen > Jim, Ning's are not free anymore, so you can count them out. > > > 2011/10/25 Jimgoodinmusic > >> Rick bandcamp is still very usable for free or pay what you want however >> you could do this project as we do on ImprovFriday, post all trax to >> DripBpx public then post the links all together on in however you want to >> currate it. You could do it all on the LD FB page. Possibly create a Ning >> page though I'm not sure it's free as we pay for hosting ImprovFriday. >> >> Jim >> On Oct 24, 2011, at 6:15 PM, Rick pWalker wrote: >> >> > about the 11 minutes on 11/11/11 @ 11:11 project: >> > >> > I'm on the horns of a dilemma here. I wanted this to be a fun project >> that didn't take any more work for people than improvising and posting the >> results for all to enjoy for free. >> > >> > I just realized that BandCamp is intended to help artists make money >> which is the opposite of what I intended >> > (not that I"m opposed to people making money for their music, I'm a >> professional musician after all) >> > but, in this case, it doesn't seem appropriate. >> > >> > Additionally, putting it out as a CT-Collective project will limit the >> number of people who will participate (unless I have this wrong) which I >> really don't want. >> > >> > What site could we use to merely post the results of this simple and >> fun exercise? >> > >> > Rick >> > >> >> > > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --0015176f09c8ff152404b01c5fd8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ning_%28website%29#Removal_of_free_n= etworks

2011/10/25 Petri Lahtinen <kollegava= lmentaja@gmail.com>
Jim, Ning's are not free anymore, so yo= u can count them out.


2011/10/25 Jimgoodinmusic <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com><= br>
Rick bandcamp is still very usable for free = or pay what you want however you could do this project as we do on ImprovFr= iday, post all trax to DripBpx public then post the links all together on i= n however you want to currate it. =A0You could do it all on the LD FB page.= Possibly create a Ning page though I'm not sure it's free as we pa= y for hosting ImprovFriday.

Jim
On Oct 24, 2011, at 6:15 PM, Rick pWalker <looppool@cruzio.com&g= t; wrote:

> about the 11 minutes on 11/11/11 @ 11:11 project:
>
> I'm on the horns of a dilemma here. =A0 I wanted this to be a fun = project that didn't take any more work for people than improvising and = posting the results for all to enjoy for free.
>
> I just realized that BandCamp is intended to help artists make money w= hich is the opposite of what I intended
> (not that I"m opposed to people making money for their music, =A0= I'm a professional musician after all)
> but, in this case, =A0it doesn't seem appropriate.
>
> Additionally, putting it out as a CT-Collective project will limit the= number of people who will participate (unless I have this wrong) which I r= eally don't want.
>
> What site could we use to merely post the results of this simple and f= un exercise?
>
> Rick
>




--
Petri Lahtinen

http://www.petrilahtinen.com




--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www= .petrilahtinen.com

--0015176f09c8ff152404b01c5fd8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 25 09:45:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4AF8E183460; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 09:45:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ip3fwIJG5X85zisG355u1BzEiwQMBZH5OoOCfBZ2n1Q=; b=dlDCNaMMZjpP8wmzs+0SKoEEyo3xg7KQS1EeNOf7BZyTEqoENh5ldptNJtkPJCI2uV i5fg+yPxlUJ/mQLaSI+pMM71HOapAlrDVSo+VZEQCwa9salPdXOVj/CGlZwbbmjIZK0G Kj+p+aFAx8z2kuPBgHiS2BnUXOooKt459Rxu4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4EA551AD.6070101@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 12:45:07 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: OT: 5/4 challenge From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015176f09c80af10a04b01c654d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112613 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 09:45:08 +0000 (UTC) --0015176f09c80af10a04b01c654d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Good to see that a thread that I started has 32 posts in it! :-) 2011/10/25 Louie Angulo > wonderful! i love the polyrhytm guitars! > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > > > >>> On Oct 10, 2011, at 11:08 PM, chrisrover wrote: > >>> > >>> For your kind consideration, live looping with drums > >>> in 5/4 and more than five good reasons to do so: > >>> > >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBDZAJ3n0 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > Really enjoyed this: I want to go out and solo in 5/4 now but my > beloved > > is asleep > > and the neighbors probably wouldn't take to kindly to it. > > > > Only one hour more to 5:55................I saw it on my clock 12 hours > ago > > as I frequently do. > > > > Thanks, christian! > > > > ps great video too! > > > > > > > > -- > www.luis-angulo.com > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --0015176f09c80af10a04b01c654d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good to see that a thread that I started has 32 posts in it! :-)

2011/10/25 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com&g= t;
wonderful! i love the polyrhytm guitars!

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
>
>>> On Oct 10, 2011, at 11:08 PM, chrisrover wrote:
>>>
>>> For your kind consideration, live looping with drums
>>> in 5/4 and more than five good reasons to do so:
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DRBDZAJ3n0
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
> Really enjoyed this: =A0 =A0 I want to go out and solo in 5/4 now but = my beloved
> is asleep
> and the neighbors probably wouldn't take to kindly to it.
>
> Only one hour more to 5:55................I saw it on my clock 12 hour= s ago
> as I frequently do.
>
> Thanks, =A0christian!
>
> ps great video too!
>
>



--
www.luis-angulo.co= m




--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www= .petrilahtinen.com

--0015176f09c80af10a04b01c654d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 26 01:03:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4919918345D; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 01:03:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=81iXCkvGvnrZpnt40ow/cF6Dfof6H+ncOlKuxqEbjsM=; b=MeTKUOImac2PNRERKNfaIwpaBTPkb4dbPU3rOr9yDbMc+3re5RbXsL1i6SzVnbfq4Z 3x7mSRY3xFXP9nC9xTJEdaOz2taqe89isycyrgLTuVlx/BfQt6ivX+c1RCWeoHCwFdbf WwMRwbPlTQ8CvqbKDCTsMqq/I4NXxMI6+a9zY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 18:03:15 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Live Streams galore!! From: Rafael Nunes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363ba6908fcb2804b02938a2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112614 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 01:03:17 +0000 (UTC) --0016363ba6908fcb2804b02938a2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ill be streaming 3 sets tomorrow and 3 sets the next day in order to drum up some attention for my Kickstarter Fund!!! Rafa's One Man Band will be having themed sets all week too :-) Todays first set was "unplugged" (vst instruments of acoustic instruments), the second set was all covers. The third set is starting now! Tune in today, tomorrow or the next day, and check out the Kickstarter and contribute to the cause!! http://ustream.tv/channel/rafasonemanband http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1280370786/house-party-tour-and-dvd -- Rafa's One Man Band Online: http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/ http://ustream.tv/user/rafasonemanband http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239 http://www.youtube.com/user/RafasOneManBand http://vimeo.com/11499020 http://www.myspace.com/rafasonemanband --0016363ba6908fcb2804b02938a2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ill be streaming 3 sets tomorrow and 3 sets the next day in order to drum u= p some attention for my Kickstarter Fund!!! Rafa's One Man Band will be= having themed sets all week too :-) Todays first set was "unplugged&q= uot; (vst instruments of acoustic instruments), the second set was all cove= rs. The third set is starting now! Tune in today, tomorrow or the next day,= and check out the Kickstarter and contribute to the cause!! --0016363ba6908fcb2804b02938a2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 26 10:36:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A74718345E; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 10:36:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Cdxt3mxcV5veR6q3gkCH2wv59+gFVZiVglhwsU2SoKk=; b=UaVYXSYIshmjZTK9gNomWz6xWAmUOpDmk77BGJgf59ougeGLVoGu1N04z6FSxXhfYJ 58SWKQo7BQ12PyiMHiTivB8nIXEUTWKW0pRAPkIKNLg5MOZM1Xpk6kZzXWf/0JUsn5MH LJYZSr35jT0BE3k0zL9oG52JJxD6ol9TqktOI= Message-ID: <4EA7E2B2.1080408@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 12:36:34 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: 11 minute looping piece @ 11:11 on 11/11/11 References: <4EA5DE5E.9080409@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4EA5DE5E.9080409@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112615 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 10:36:48 +0000 (UTC) Am 24.10.11 23:53, schrieb Rick Walker: > I'm intend to create a Band Camp page where everyone can submit to (if > that's possible) > so there is a central place where everyone can go to hear the projects. > > with all due respect to the wonderful CT collective. This makes a lot of sense... And for those who are still into CD's, I could imagine that anybody could put together a personal "11/11/11 11:11:11" Sampler...;-) And if we are lucky, it could end up in 11 chain tapes. To setup a Kunaki CD is free as far as I know, and I'd happily master all of them...;-) Stefan -- Les Ondes Memorielles--------x-- -_____-----------|-----------|-- -(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- - _|_)----|-----()-------------- ---------()----------TJ Shredder http://tjshredder.wordpress.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 26 14:08:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E601B18345E; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:08:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=oirISDbg9tEcbYCvk6Cq/h54sy1PwNR3/xSVq2pdEIE=; b=b0ql26GQCwNAE9qOEiBEmRSeEsvq7b+JHnhO4m5p9y4QFUH24tyHN5S30NRRrOec1K hGesa/ehi0XRfHtgZm0MB+nz5QSHCa5+PN9jUlU0t3Nybp5yOXr1cadI+5fRtH1eak07 apSmVnbbsfitzhUASAPZlI5k2GcLU9y7IYqkY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4EA7E2B2.1080408@googlemail.com> References: <4EA5DE5E.9080409@cruzio.com> <4EA7E2B2.1080408@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:08:38 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 11 minute looping piece @ 11:11 on 11/11/11 From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151773e0e44e280104b03431e0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112616 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:08:39 +0000 (UTC) --00151773e0e44e280104b03431e0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm in also! -Petri- 2011/10/26 Stefan Tiedje > Am 24.10.11 23:53, schrieb Rick Walker: > > I'm intend to create a Band Camp page where everyone can submit to (if >> that's possible) >> so there is a central place where everyone can go to hear the projects. >> >> with all due respect to the wonderful CT collective. >> > > This makes a lot of sense... > > And for those who are still into CD's, I could imagine that anybody could > put together a personal "11/11/11 11:11:11" Sampler...;-) > And if we are lucky, it could end up in 11 chain tapes. To setup a Kunaki > CD is free as far as I know, and I'd happily master all of them...;-) > > > Stefan > > -- > Les Ondes Memorielles--------x-- > -_____-----------|-----------|**-- > -(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > - _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ---------()----------TJ Shredder > http://tjshredder.wordpress.**com/ > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --00151773e0e44e280104b03431e0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm in also!

-Petri-

2011/10/= 26 Stefan Tiedje <stefantiedje@googlemail.com>
Am 24.10.11 23:53, schrieb Rick Walker:

I'm intend to create a Band Camp page where everyone can submit to (if<= br> that's possible)
so there is a central place where everyone can go to hear the projects.

with all due respect to the wonderful CT collective.

This makes a lot of sense...

And for those who are still into CD's, I could imagine that anybody cou= ld put together a personal "11/11/11 11:11:11" Sampler...;-)
And if we are lucky, it could end up in 11 chain tapes. To setup a Kunaki C= D is free as far as I know, and I'd happily master all of them...;-)


Stefan

--
Les Ondes Memorielles--------x--
-_____-----------|-----------|--
-(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()-------
- _|_)----|-----()--------------
---------()----------TJ Shredder
http://tjshr= edder.wordpress.com/




--
Petri Lahti= nen

http:= //www.petrilahtinen.com

--00151773e0e44e280104b03431e0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 26 14:42:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DFE7118345D; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:42:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=p/L3tKEctURTkzeNkOD86dC+PW911hp0j7PUyF/P0NQ=; b=etMiS3UjQe/ysEU+3mARNzNcTYGm+75c4FfYQidhEpqJiQtRJBCkx2X7FvLN/BX6Et BGvbEAqA9UTPIbOeKWCRlXms6e7SHfWnAcs3K6SdF4t7Tu3baYJZUh3USAF0cQl38mrT 6UR1wHkU0RxOb3cOOYrPolhEJC0/psXgukKrQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4EA5DE5E.9080409@cruzio.com> <4EA7E2B2.1080408@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 10:41:59 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 11 minute looping piece @ 11:11 on 11/11/11 From: Michael Ellis To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c3684903d5004b034a86a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112617 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:42:00 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c3684903d5004b034a86a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Very cool idea! Agreeing on a standard tempo (111 bpm was suggested earlier) sounds good. It might make sense to fool around slightly with the duration and/or tempo to get a total beat count that's nicely divisible into common bar lengths. Here's one possibility: Add 11 extra beats so the total beat count is 11 min * 111 bpm + 11 beats = 1232 beats. This is nicely divisible by 4, 8, and 16. Losing a bit of symbolism, another possibility is to add 15 extra beats to get 1236 total beats. This is divisible by 3, 4, 9, and 12 allowing for some interesting polyrhythmic possibilities. There are probably some even more flexible duration/tempo combos possible. Just my $0.02. Cheers, Mike On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Petri Lahtinen < kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm in also! > > -Petri- > > > 2011/10/26 Stefan Tiedje > >> Am 24.10.11 23:53, schrieb Rick Walker: >> >> I'm intend to create a Band Camp page where everyone can submit to (if >>> that's possible) >>> so there is a central place where everyone can go to hear the projects. >>> >>> with all due respect to the wonderful CT collective. >>> >> >> This makes a lot of sense... >> >> And for those who are still into CD's, I could imagine that anybody could >> put together a personal "11/11/11 11:11:11" Sampler...;-) >> And if we are lucky, it could end up in 11 chain tapes. To setup a Kunaki >> CD is free as far as I know, and I'd happily master all of them...;-) >> >> >> Stefan >> >> -- >> Les Ondes Memorielles--------x-- >> -_____-----------|-----------|**-- >> -(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- >> - _|_)----|-----()-------------- >> ---------()----------TJ Shredder >> http://tjshredder.wordpress.**com/ >> >> > > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > > --0015174c3684903d5004b034a86a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very cool idea! =A0Agreeing on a standard tempo (111 bpm was suggested earl= ier) sounds good.

It might make sense to fool around slightly = with the duration and/or tempo to get =A0a total beat count that's nice= ly divisible into common bar lengths. =A0Here's one possibility:

Add 11 extra beats so the total beat count is 11 min * = 111 bpm =A0+ 11 beats =3D 1232 beats. =A0This is nicely divisible by 4, 8, = and 16. =A0

Losing a bit of symbolism, another pos= sibility is to add 15 extra beats to get 1236 total beats. =A0This is divis= ible by 3, 4, 9, and 12 allowing for some interesting polyrhythmic possibil= ities.

There are probably some even more flexible duration/tem= po combos possible.

Just my $0.02.

<= /div>
Cheers,
Mike



On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Petri = Lahtinen <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm in also!

-Petri-


<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/10/26 Stefan Tiedje <stefantiedje= @googlemail.com>
Am 24.10.11 23:53, schrieb Rick Walker:

I'm intend to create a Band Camp page where everyone can submit to (if<= br> that's possible)
so there is a central place where everyone can go to hear the projects.

with all due respect to the wonderful CT collective.

This makes a lot of sense...

And for those who are still into CD's, I could imagine that anybody cou= ld put together a personal "11/11/11 11:11:11" Sampler...;-)
And if we are lucky, it could end up in 11 chain tapes. To setup a Kunaki C= D is free as far as I know, and I'd happily master all of them...;-)


Stefan

--
Les Ondes Memorielles--------x--
-_____-----------|-----------|--
-(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()-------
- _|_)----|-----()--------------
---------()----------TJ Shredder
http://tjshr= edder.wordpress.com/




--
Petri Lahtinen

http://www.petrilahtinen.com


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New Bandcamp Site... From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: "Loopers Delight" , "DH" , "AH" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112618 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:54:36 +0000 (UTC) Blatant Self promotion of 20+ years of work: After releasing cassettes in the 1990s, CD comps in the later 1990s, and CDs and CDrs in the 2000s my label Http://HelpWantedProductions.com comes into the second decade of the 21st Century with a streaming and downloadable online site: http://davidtalento.bandcamp.com/ Streaming is free and all tracks are name-your-own-price or very inexpensive complete album or EP downloads. 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I'm proud of it all and some of the complete releases include bonus downloads such as scans of the original cassette (ha!) covers, liner notes, bonus tracks= , etc. Please take a listen and share, distribute the links at will. http://davidtalento.bandcamp.com/ Feedback always welcome. THANKS for reading --------------------------------------- NEW DAED SITE!! - Http://DaedSound.com DAED: Circuit Bent and Unusual Sound Devices "Making Something Extraordinary from the Ordinary" Music and Downloads at the New Online Site: http://davidtalento.bandcamp.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 26 16:14:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CEDD318345E; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:14:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0IsCp1ejgnXWXSJ+HMhMffYCUg8Qq0yIDwrF0NqCpwY=; b=BRusop6QI1jNhmBc0rlowSw2sWLyBbAiBiZ/1O2Xm4clS3UzOuQtaivOPd2nTiTgLN XQzU5vGzXBkE0F0LjyCI2bttGozO24RrwMPmAevOF5FjMCzAg7bENMkHxzNYEWI+Jgmy Ubq3DTkH80qlJgo+2vrKh1hS9oMHApTfE4tGU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 11:14:44 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Which macbook for live audio? From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151743f76451e20904b035f4ad Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112619 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:14:46 +0000 (UTC) --00151743f76451e20904b035f4ad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I know this has been asked, but I had trouble finding the threads dealing with macbooks in particular. I am running ableton live, with some built-in basic effects. I would like to move towards using ableton's looper for my looping needs, so I probably need something with 8gb ram. What about processor requirements? Will the newest macbook pros be overkill? --00151743f76451e20904b035f4ad Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know this has been asked, but I had trouble finding the threads dealing w= ith macbooks in particular.

I am running ableton live, w= ith some built-in basic effects.

I would like to m= ove towards using ableton's looper for my looping needs, so I probably = need something with 8gb ram. What about processor requirements?

Will the newest macbook pros be overkill?=A0
--00151743f76451e20904b035f4ad-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 26 16:23:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89692183460; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:23:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yX78BmLzTTvRBPP0ceb3wtw2rMKQdskGBL2mn0YyunM=; b=R32Ad1a7HbOQcCDNVsx7/lBlsHpX2quVY94K9WHMrNLpfgIUd+JUSUvmn3wo5nCwtW O+49ofQ13DcmARHjSFMhffuV5850hfk6QdnHu0V1ucvqi+0UQwzio12TujGinyhfuyxK 4FP9qhIO2JQ+LRBPJ0cvUHDCTzADJwEgH3ReI= Message-ID: <4EA83348.1@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:20:24 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Which macbook for live audio? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112620 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:23:26 +0000 (UTC) Considering what you can do with an EDP, I'd say anything with more than 16MB of RAM and some microcontroller from the 80s is overkill ;-P > I would like to move towards using ableton's looper for my looping > needs, so I probably need something with 8gb ram. What about processor > requirements? > > Will the newest macbook pros be overkill? -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 26 16:24:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4467F183462; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:24:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+TknEc4V4KUonmf99e8FjK1xUeG1kkAHsZbmLH4p23Y=; b=GOoccPCgu5glq3w5hWStSpu5JMpdhybIjQ++gYbCbtUV6OvoOmx5WW3TonDwq6bL6y pYp38qRwL5SRcgm1GuVeZqg/07OQC4khUXHL9V0hyizF8b/VNfC3IG5UdwJPAkQwkptL 0zeuxIozd8Yr5ElRQNV7rRCAvHxz+7hrvf98c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:24:04 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: QDLc4MKxRPEyfHXDD7aYkLV7JRo Message-ID: Subject: Re: Which macbook for live audio? From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112621 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:24:05 +0000 (UTC) I used to do live looping/audio in Live on a PowerBook G4, 667MHz, with 512MB RAM. Anything currently on sale is more than adequate. os. On 26 October 2011 17:14, marcus kirby wrote: > I know this has been asked, but I had trouble finding the threads dealing > with macbooks in particular. > I am running ableton live, with some built-in basic effects. > I would like to move towards using ableton's looper for my looping needs, so > I probably need something with 8gb ram. What about processor requirements? > Will the newest macbook pros be overkill? -- os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 26 16:27:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA3E4183473; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:26:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=UHvxFiDId1cloRAA0caKjlwctE48srpV9kztxidoCVI=; b=fbWqtbJsjtxWraCCas8YyWOUZrlyYvfceuSjZjCsNoMrbRJK7xEl0KX9SFR+auOdJN OxALVeyl+ZAGoSdnikfKezqmcUCbi8ZGany/ZmorSvrnMXwxhKN97AZMxeXG900cQaEv qA7h67vcYmha480+wi5azFN3+nScXy/aiMmWk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 10:26:58 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Which macbook for live audio? From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112622 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:26:59 +0000 (UTC) There is no such thing as overkill when it comes to computers in live performance. Anyone who says otherwise is a fool courting disaster because it isn't a matter of "if" but rather of "when." Buy as much power/RAM/disk space as you possibly can afford. Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:14 AM, marcus kirby wrote: > I know this has been asked, but I had trouble finding the threads dealing > with macbooks in particular. > I am running ableton live, with some built-in basic effects. > I would like to move towards using ableton's looper for my looping needs, so > I probably need something with 8gb ram. What about processor requirements? > Will the newest macbook pros be overkill? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 26 16:28:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5483E183475; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:28:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=RTFT5v0NFPFmEeaANlQnpWr0nSsJWxk3JM+wpPfpR9o=; b=LNF3gNUcHfx4Zy4KCU7NsVE8uSu4+iJrpjIjzRjpjoyUL8CuyihZ/UP18hXjotoZkF WsW/GG2jitLZkmmMhsMyV4YccbpQsjfNEEIwYEWQ+mEmbtaps5I9wzuMgsEsVjX24swh IxOUEsKEyWRHvWDiSdTI4h5VQjmcZvGC2QySc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 12:28:22 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Which macbook for live audio? From: Michael Ellis To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c368408b0e504b03625c8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112623 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:28:24 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c368408b0e504b03625c8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Short answers: 1. If money's not an issue, get the biggest baddest macbook available -- just because you can. 2. If money matters, consult with the developers of ableton because every piece of software uses resources differently and they would be in the best position to advise you. FWIW, 1 Gb will store about 1.5 hours of uncompressed CD audio stereo data. Cheers, Mike On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Os wrote: > I used to do live looping/audio in Live on a PowerBook G4, 667MHz, > with 512MB RAM. > > Anything currently on sale is more than adequate. > > > os. > > > On 26 October 2011 17:14, marcus kirby wrote: > > I know this has been asked, but I had trouble finding the threads dealing > > with macbooks in particular. > > I am running ableton live, with some built-in basic effects. > > I would like to move towards using ableton's looper for my looping needs, > so > > I probably need something with 8gb ram. What about processor > requirements? > > Will the newest macbook pros be overkill? > > > > -- > os@collective.co.uk > http://twitter.com/expertsleepers > http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ > > --0015174c368408b0e504b03625c8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Short answers:
1. If money's not an issue, get the biggest baddest = macbook available -- just because you can.
2. If money matters, = =A0consult with the developers of ableton because every piece of software u= ses resources differently and they would be in the best position to advise = you.

FWIW, =A01 Gb will store about 1.5 hours of uncompresse= d CD audio stereo data.

Cheers,
Mike


On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Os <os@collective.co.= uk> wrote:
I used to do live looping/audio in Live on a PowerBook G4, 667MHz,
with 512MB RAM.

Anything currently on sale is more than adequate.


os.


On 26 October 2011 17:14, marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:
> I know this has been asked, but I had trouble finding the threads deal= ing
> with macbooks in particular.
> I am running ableton live, with some built-in basic effects.
> I would like to move towards using ableton's looper for my looping= needs, so
> I probably need something with 8gb ram. What about processor requireme= nts?
> Will the newest macbook pros be overkill?



--
os@collective.co.uk
http://twit= ter.com/expertsleepers
http://www.da= rkroomtheband.net/
http://www.= expert-sleepers.co.uk/


--0015174c368408b0e504b03625c8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 26 16:29:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A1C1183486; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:29:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Q4a4svz4f3/Wa8Y2kqM6Dgy/VVdD0GjKUitHMJUyffA=; b=WYu7cahXaDawxkdxFlD3oDFb9ZT0Sajf1zC6kfo2U9Zx/o1Vn70eopl9mnHVQLM+nP Pzc099nVsCkwUIeijd7o2Pu5IRAZ95ET33Azkby+t4nQovuhgCBY5Zhpmr2IGDuCsRnT tbl4KcMLTY2lAfczl/norkMgMklIrNbJFdLfE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:29:17 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Which macbook for live audio? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112624 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:29:18 +0000 (UTC) Wow, 8 MB! I have not yet checked the RAM spec's for last week's new MBPs but before them the max amount was 4 GB. The only people I know that run 8 GB or more RAM are the guys who simulate symphonic orchestras to produce "symphonics-in-the-box", because of the super long samples needed for all orchestra sections in combinations playing long legato notes - on sample per note makes a hell of a lot of files to read into RAM. Live's Looper plugin isn't very RAM intensive because each instance of it only handles one loop, so I guess 4 MB would work find. But "more-is-better" anyway, you never know what software will come around the next corner ;-)) For details on laptop efficiency you should read up on the thread at Ableton Live forum where people run a specific test project on their computers and post the result according to a standardized scheme. That makes it easy to compare different models. A general tip is to get the sharpest box you can afford so you will be free to chose between more plugins to set up your sound. Especially Live needs CPU power because you can't call up new effect chains from a no-cpu-taxing limbo but need to keep everything in the session all the time. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 6:14 PM, marcus kirby wrote: > I know this has been asked, but I had trouble finding the threads dealing > with macbooks in particular. > I am running ableton live, with some built-in basic effects. > I would like to move towards using ableton's looper for my looping needs, so > I probably need something with 8gb ram. What about processor requirements? > Will the newest macbook pros be overkill? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 26 16:34:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D94E8183465; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:34:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Z4o9h4n9Kc0jM7QHEkzA/tngMo6lA9xSYUWlh40U9YE=; b=nU2eo04ha7o8mBsVf0l58HdJN5KtoST49Za5wZthQLUn/IcLs5ftIfeMGmISGh2ZTx 8jKku/PP0ualnC+JQf8NXymNSmLR7ADwRSoFtMcx7K7cOslAUxp0Na0ejGBK0o5u5bWh pNi6JHc2Oa1xz6QfcmeOuWwYDyP5XlE0f9k+8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 11:34:38 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Which macbook for live audio? From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151743f76472d2bb04b0363b73 Resent-Message-ID: <4YBNtC.A.0FH.faDqOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112625 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:34:39 +0000 (UTC) --00151743f76472d2bb04b0363b73 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks for the responses. I've been really inspired by Christopher Willits' setup as of late. I have a lot of that stuff in pedal form, and have spent the last year getting everything midi synced. I'm tired of messing with hardware for purists sake, and I just want to make music. I can achieve what I want in an easier manner with a laptop and built-in looper, so I think it's time. I hardly ever hit more than 20% cpu usage in ableton, and that's with a 2008 blackbook. I imagine even the 2010 mpb would be fine? On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Wow, 8 MB! I have not yet checked the RAM spec's for last week's new > MBPs but before them the max amount was 4 GB. The only people I know > that run 8 GB or more RAM are the guys who simulate symphonic > orchestras to produce "symphonics-in-the-box", because of the super > long samples needed for all orchestra sections in combinations playing > long legato notes - on sample per note makes a hell of a lot of files > to read into RAM. > > Live's Looper plugin isn't very RAM intensive because each instance of > it only handles one loop, so I guess 4 MB would work find. But > "more-is-better" anyway, you never know what software will come around > the next corner ;-)) > > For details on laptop efficiency you should read up on the thread at > Ableton Live forum where people run a specific test project on their > computers and post the result according to a standardized scheme. That > makes it easy to compare different models. > > A general tip is to get the sharpest box you can afford so you will be > free to chose between more plugins to set up your sound. Especially > Live needs CPU power because you can't call up new effect chains from > a no-cpu-taxing limbo but need to keep everything in the session all > the time. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 6:14 PM, marcus kirby > wrote: > > I know this has been asked, but I had trouble finding the threads dealing > > with macbooks in particular. > > I am running ableton live, with some built-in basic effects. > > I would like to move towards using ableton's looper for my looping needs, > so > > I probably need something with 8gb ram. What about processor > requirements? > > Will the newest macbook pros be overkill? > > --00151743f76472d2bb04b0363b73 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the responses.=A0

I've been really inspir= ed by Christopher Willits' setup as of late. I have a lot of that stuff= in pedal form, and have spent the last year getting everything midi synced= . I'm tired of messing with hardware for purists sake, and I just want = to make music. I can achieve what I want in an easier manner with a laptop = and built-in looper, so I think it's time.

I hardly ever hit more than 20% cpu usage in ableton, a= nd that's with a 2008 blackbook. I imagine even the 2010 mpb would be f= ine?



On Wed, Oc= t 26, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Wow, 8 MB! I have not yet checked the RAM s= pec's for last week's new
MBPs but before them the max amount was 4 GB. The only people I know
that run 8 GB or more RAM are the guys who simulate symphonic
orchestras to produce "symphonics-in-the-box", because of the sup= er
long samples needed for all orchestra sections in combinations playing
long legato notes - on sample per note makes a hell of a lot of files
to read into RAM.

Live's Looper plugin isn't very RAM intensive because each instance= of
it only handles one loop, so I guess 4 MB would work find. But
"more-is-better" anyway, you never know what software will come a= round
the next corner ;-))

For details on laptop efficiency you should read up on the thread at
Ableton Live forum where people run a specific test project on their
computers and post the result according to a standardized scheme. That
makes it easy to compare different models.

A general tip is to get the sharpest box you can afford so you will be
free =A0to chose between more plugins to set up your sound. Especially
Live needs CPU power because you can't call up new effect chains from a no-cpu-taxing limbo but need to keep everything in the session all
the time.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.y= outube.com/perboysen




On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 6:14 PM, marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:
> I know this has been asked, but I had trouble finding the threads deal= ing
> with macbooks in particular.
> I am running ableton live, with some built-in basic effects.
> I would like to move towards using ableton's looper for my looping= needs, so
> I probably need something with 8gb ram. What about processor requireme= nts?
> Will the newest macbook pros be overkill?


--00151743f76472d2bb04b0363b73-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 26 17:20:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 538D2183466; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:20:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ATmZMhCltzi5xRv+wEaaYEHxZ4r5tr7JOjA5uOX5Riw=; b=fGaQvY+Zuhp0AyBBNFlPqzLQ2Q+jFzoidQ+cni93vunoFIqxhJZOqE4xi73q/iV5Bi gg92AjTOndIS1edsVhm1Awz1r943e011OQrN89yJ2LY7VmoWxBacHbvTq6+imDIB85DL DbU5hf7AW9a4zDv6flDzfGeQ4j+qatn/z75vs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:20:25 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Which macbook for live audio? From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112626 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:20:26 +0000 (UTC) per - i've noticed that live's plugins don't use any cpu when there's no audio passing through them (maybe not as efficiently as mainstage), but turning them off doesn't seem to make much difference and having lots of them in the set is possible without much of a cpu hit. it's very efficient. s From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 26 18:58:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FB51183460; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:58:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=TvOJZxfnlwOOIqufUic4UnaW6PuFRQEouPEUmU5voFQ=; b=up1YHY/YpCzkp/S6ayS0nzGYtfeFxqXH59oV636BjJTPKT9Vt58NU3UDOlgORsfp+7 0cAwU705wSneHNse8WvGbSZyPoeFAClkXT36UbdkHPjuhViuIC/fs+nBAQZ5KQk5SmPv +VCMB4Wu9//Ht+hN69rgOFVYBcrltvAC2NoPY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:58:56 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Which macbook for live audio? From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112627 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:58:57 +0000 (UTC) My suggestion is to buy the best computer you can afford. Don't worry about it being overkill... it will be outdated soon enough (isn't Live about due for an update?). If you decide to buy a macbook, try to get one that comes with snow leopard instead of Lion, since not every music software and plugins cohabit with Lion yet (check you audio interface drivers). You can usually get a good price on a recent model courtesy of the crazy people who upgrade every year. Local mac dealers (not the apple store) might have refurbished macbooks for a bargain. 4gb of ram is the minimum I would consider, but life in 8gb land is sweet (not so much for music, but for video rendering). Ram is cheap and computers need it to live. Sylvain On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > per - i've noticed that live's plugins don't use any cpu when there's > no audio passing through them (maybe not as efficiently as mainstage), > but turning them off doesn't seem to make much difference and having > lots of them in the set is possible without much of a cpu hit. it's > very efficient. > > s > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 26 19:21:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1EF28183460; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:21:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=AZF4xDfNHKI3NF+U9kMmRigJvqNk03wgxWCnquTXY60=; b=enFpTBLfwE5SD9BFjrSSmmZCoVD9O9xuFrt+LbvI/NLMDz8olRn/6v+3QbQR3TMzSa wLq1c7YaKuJLmJul5q+enYnLytIkxfMsQPNjRqHH0pjSO5Hw00rMkl0YnaI1OAjRZhXz ykCCSCInVngpo48/GkgST5mFiV7Dv91X4NykM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 12:21:09 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why...? From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364ef7e4eb20d204b0388eaa Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112628 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:21:11 +0000 (UTC) --0016364ef7e4eb20d204b0388eaa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 For me, I originally started looping because I wanted to take non-musical sounds (clips of speech, found objects, etc) and make them musical through repetition. Now I mostly loop because: --I want to be able to play solo, and I lack the motor skills to be an interesting non-looped solo musician. --Somehow, having a series of musical actions happening without my direct interference allows me to spend more time making individual sounds more interesting. For example, instead of needing to come up with melody, I simply layer 3 different notes playing at different time intervals, and voila - a melody was created when I was thinking only about timbre! --I like the concept of solo performers - it gives you a chance to get to hear a person without having their musical persona watered down by the give-and-take that comes with being in a band. Bands are good too - but sometimes you want to know about the individual. -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:45 PM, william middlemiss < billymiddlemiss@gmail.com> wrote: > Why do you 'loop'? What got you started on this path? > > Was it a mechanism for solo performance? to record a vamp? > > A compositional device, a new avenue of expression? (repetition as > compositional device?) > > An 'artistic statement' in itself? as if to say "I DONT NEED NO STINKIN > BAND!" > > A fallback for artistic roadblocks? (as in--an easy way out) > > A way of exploring new rhythms? > > A textural apparatus? sound design? > > A means of 'warping sound'? > > With me, it's been all of the above, and I've jumped among 7 or 8 devices > along the way. > > How about you? > > > > --0016364ef7e4eb20d204b0388eaa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For me, I originally started looping because I wanted to take non-musical s= ounds (clips of speech, found objects, etc) and make them musical through r= epetition.

Now I mostly loop because:
--I want to be able to pl= ay solo, and I lack the motor skills to be an interesting non-looped solo m= usician.
--Somehow, having a series of musical actions happening without my direct i= nterference allows me to spend more time making individual sounds more inte= resting. For example, instead of needing to come up with melody, I simply l= ayer 3 different notes playing at different time intervals, and voila - a m= elody was created when I was thinking only about timbre!
--I like the concept of solo performers - it gives you a chance to get to h= ear a person without having their musical persona watered down by the give-= and-take that comes with being in a band. Bands are good too - but sometime= s you want to know about the individual.


--
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusic.com
Podcast! http://ribosome= matt.podomatic.com
Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt


On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:45 PM, william middlemiss <billymiddlemiss@gmai= l.com> wrote:
Why do you 'l= oop'? What got you started on this path?

Was it a me= chanism for solo performance? to record a vamp?

A compositional device, a new avenue of expression? (re= petition as compositional device?)

An 'artistic statement' in itself? as if to say= "I DONT NEED NO STINKIN BAND!"

A fallba= ck for artistic roadblocks? (as in--an easy way out)

A way of exploring new rhythms?

A textural ap= paratus? sound design?

A means of 'warping sou= nd'?

With me, it's been all of the above, = and I've jumped among 7 or 8 devices along the way.

How about you?


=



--0016364ef7e4eb20d204b0388eaa-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 26 19:26:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F3AB18345E; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:26:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=uBLpxzChmRPupNkrM1Dw8ROdQuyJQKYma2r+N5ZjVp8=; b=F7fYMwvLuhKPrHla8b0+pJfo0lp+R3Fa1BXJaEamG0TMfXcNw0YArS4KjMgN7BpYsp bB3Pnu/h+BTST0DiJFkQ3zvoS2rLj/3VVufZQPKfY3peeSsfNJxtxGBrAz5I4I4RAZ3n Q2CTEX/b1erKIk3ltzmoN/pCOR5xd51wIKn2U= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 21:26:25 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Which macbook for live audio? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112629 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:26:26 +0000 (UTC) Yep, that was my point. But seriously, CPU worries is just peanuts with CPU powers increasing with every new laptop model! I'm planning to use Live for a gig in January and looking forward to that! Per On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > per - i've noticed that live's plugins don't use any cpu when there's > no audio passing through them (maybe not as efficiently as mainstage), > but turning them off doesn't seem to make much difference and having > lots of them in the set is possible without much of a cpu hit. it's > very efficient. > > s > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 26 19:35:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E64D183462; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:35:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_HfqpMD6LNL3ibvdKSjvg9Q)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-10-26_06:2011-10-26,2011-10-26,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1110260215 From: Daniel Thomas Subject: Re: Why...? Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 12:35:46 -0700 In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-id: <9AC80BDA-863F-4969-9A20-1B18D706BCFF@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112630 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:35:48 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_HfqpMD6LNL3ibvdKSjvg9Q) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > Why do you 'loop'? What got you started on this path? I loop because I am fascinated with the many ways that technology can extend my musical range. because its damn interesting. the front edge of live musical performance. originally my interest in looping was timbre creation--when I was a kid in the 70s i spent several weeks looping clips of my grandfather's spooky deep southern drawl, as he preached hell fire and brimstone sermons that my father had recorded on 1/4' reels. My dad showed me how to clip tape with a razor -- it was not long before I had figured several tape-based looping tricks- and completely destroyed the record of my grandfather damning us all to hell! (a service to humanity, I assure you) > A fallback for artistic roadblocks? (as in--an easy way out) >From a musical perspective-- Its never struck me as easy to manage live looping-- Playing in a band or as a solo instrumentalist is much less preparation. d On Oct 21, 2011, at 10:45 PM, william middlemiss wrote: > Why do you 'loop'? What got you started on this path? > > Was it a mechanism for solo performance? to record a vamp? > > A compositional device, a new avenue of expression? (repetition as compositional device?) > > An 'artistic statement' in itself? as if to say "I DONT NEED NO STINKIN BAND!" > > A fallback for artistic roadblocks? (as in--an easy way out) > > A way of exploring new rhythms? > > A textural apparatus? sound design? > > A means of 'warping sound'? > > With me, it's been all of the above, and I've jumped among 7 or 8 devices along the way. > > How about you? > > > --Boundary_(ID_HfqpMD6LNL3ibvdKSjvg9Q) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Why do you 'loop'? What got you started = on this path?
I loop because I am fascinated with = the many ways that technology can extend my musical = range.  
because its damn interesting. =  the front edge of live musical = performance.

originally my interest in = looping was timbre creation--when I was a kid in the 70s i spent several = weeks looping clips of my grandfather's spooky deep southern drawl, as = he preached hell fire and brimstone sermons that my father had recorded = on 1/4' reels. My dad showed me how to clip tape with a razor -- it was = not long before I had figured several tape-based looping tricks- =  and completely destroyed the record of my grandfather damning us = all to hell!  (a service to humanity, I assure = you) 

A = fallback for artistic roadblocks? (as in--an easy way = out)
=46rom a musical perspective-- =  Its never struck me as easy to manage live looping-- Playing in a = band or as a solo instrumentalist is much less preparation. =  
d
    
On Oct = 21, 2011, at 10:45 PM, william middlemiss wrote:

Why do you = 'loop'? What got you started on this path?

Was it a = mechanism for solo performance? to record a = vamp?

A compositional device, a new avenue of = expression? (repetition as compositional device?)

An 'artistic statement' in itself? as if to say "I = DONT NEED NO STINKIN BAND!"

A fallback for = artistic roadblocks? (as in--an easy way out)

A way of exploring new rhythms?

A textural = apparatus? sound design?

A means of 'warping = sound'?

With me, it's been all of the above, = and I've jumped among 7 or 8 devices along the way.

How about = you?




= --Boundary_(ID_HfqpMD6LNL3ibvdKSjvg9Q)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 26 21:18:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE87518345E; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 21:18:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ewMOK1ZdqGqDzL4FhjdB7g1ZyF5bBjlJlA6qDGwSi3c=; b=msli0xUt5VXRoB5RIHRDVdcG2ZAt4Cj3BV5dJ5iYMZRHwlayOQ46F3Ip+q5E2OZXQI aD6bxtv95462qRzDn2uZVAyOrArcZqC54XsD/nJaaHcpvmj++byvNw5prGGFbtkls6Ir FgY0oVxQGWwH61pgLJJFa6opmwtdrd/eMOA/8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:18:43 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Which macbook for live audio? From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174489fc5fffdf04b03a3330 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112631 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 21:18:44 +0000 (UTC) --0015174489fc5fffdf04b03a3330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've definitely read about issues with Lion and plug-ins, so I'll take that into consideration. I don't need the latest and greatest (been running my macbook since 2008), but I would like something that can provide me about three years of solid performance and reliability. Additionally, I need it to be powerful enough to run plugins/loopers, as well as act as a sequencer for hardware. I'll probably make this computer music-only, and continue using this 2008 model for internet / whatever. Is there much of a difference between the i5 and i7? On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Yep, that was my point. But seriously, CPU worries is just peanuts > with CPU powers increasing with every new laptop model! I'm planning > to use Live for a gig in January and looking forward to that! > > Per > > > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Simeon Harris > wrote: > > per - i've noticed that live's plugins don't use any cpu when there's > > no audio passing through them (maybe not as efficiently as mainstage), > > but turning them off doesn't seem to make much difference and having > > lots of them in the set is possible without much of a cpu hit. it's > > very efficient. > > > > s > > > > > > --0015174489fc5fffdf04b03a3330 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've definitely read about issues with Lion and plug-ins, so I'll t= ake that into consideration.

I don't need the latest= and greatest (been running my macbook since 2008), but I would like someth= ing that can provide me about three years of solid performance and reliabil= ity. Additionally, I need it to be powerful enough to run plugins/loopers, = as well as act as a sequencer for hardware.

I'll probably make this computer music-only, and co= ntinue using this 2008 model for internet / whatever.

<= div>Is there much of a difference between the i5 and i7?


On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Per Boysen = <perboysen@gmai= l.com> wrote:
Yep, that was my point. But seriously, CPU worries is just peanuts
with CPU powers increasing with every new laptop model! I'm planning to use Live for a gig in January and looking forward to that!

Per



On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Simeon Harris
<simeonharris40@googlem= ail.com> wrote:
> per - i've noticed that li= ve's plugins don't use any cpu when there's
> no audio passing through them (maybe not as efficiently as mainstage),=
> but turning them off doesn't seem to make much difference and havi= ng
> lots of them in the set is possible without much of a cpu hit. it'= s
> very efficient.
>
> s
>
>


--0015174489fc5fffdf04b03a3330-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 26 21:24:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3817183462; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 21:24:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Px0nSi/fnpZ0Fd7hbVr/LaVbuRK0ARZmtsbkQ/3k+NM=; b=AN9Om6ObIYEktuatYNsFG9pQz0hLY7kgvdxB2ZoLDcbXEqSo5gvJ0FJ3gIAVqhex2O uD0uXtfyz6h6xb2DCwIgUDoLGaSZXcjFqNoKgbhiVJCnfu8S1cn2Ohn1cwhKqfX0SfL6 +H6hyw7lAeZvaYnAXHQE2yKqQ8uDPC7S6E6sg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 23:24:32 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Which macbook for live audio? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112632 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 21:24:33 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:18 PM, marcus kirby wrote: > Is there much of a difference between the i5 and i7? A little... but for some that little is much :-)) Depends on where the limitation happens to kick in. Go for the i7! Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 26 21:25:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A346718345A; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 21:25:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=CS0AKDcBUqGrYdBHThAjSW7QbZSYSGobIJUGGkNG9VU= c=1 sm=2 a=agWTFdhlyG4A:10 a=kZCaSYHnAAAA:8 a=AmuB-pcYAAAA:8 a=x9LQtntrAAAA:8 a=DAmQpOx_Otz-4x0rxNcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=9dKDUTTeGJsA:10 a=4g1Un4FPLDYA:10 a=k9XOtJXmrMMA:10 a=0qb-q7Ts-IxP_JsH1QMA:9 a=oE114wKm6KTcsgkOpqsA:7 X-Telus-Outbound-IP: 64.180.201.44 From: richard sales Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--92798421 Subject: Re: Why...? Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:25:01 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <0C09FFEB-BD75-4425-9DF2-60C78ABBC7DF@glasswing.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112633 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 21:25:11 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--92798421 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I looped in the early 80s with two Effectrons (sample and hold). =20 I guess I started looping because it was the only way to create a big = sound with one person or one guitar other than deafening me and the = audience.=20 Looped arpeggios with the Jupiter 8 which I still have and still love.=20= When sequencers appeared in the 80's (Studio Vision and before that the = Kurzweil 250) I looped with them. That's what they did. Most all modern, folk, troubadour... anything with a verse and chorus, = anything that repeats, any ostinato is looped. Created rap beats in the 80's with 1/4" tape. That was SERIOUS work! So I guess I loop because the kind of music I do is based on loops from = the get go.=20 Since joining this group I've fiddled with the raga like, no chord = change looping and I enjoy that.=20 I loop because it's the only band members I can get to show up for = rehearsal. I liked Philip Glass way back when. My studio is called "GlassWing" = partially because I was fascinated with P Glass's music. I created the = word 'glasswing' in 1978. The wing part came from the zebra finches I = used to raise. P Glass looped manually! I saw Danny Gatton loop with an old tape Echoplex in the seventies I = think it was. Same with Robert Fripp. I think that may have been the seventies too. = It was him solo with 2 tape machines. Finally, I loop for the same reason I do most all that I do - because = it's fun!=20 As you can see, my definition of looping might diverge from some of our = definitions on this list... which I love so much I read most all you = write. =20 I never did music for the women. I have loved music passionately since = I first heard Fats Domino, Chuck Berry, Little Richard etc as a child. = They sang the way I felt. It was a huge revelation for a six year old. = Over time, it just got better and better. The perks, the side bennies = of music were a happy accident for me. =20 I would guess most of us who started music way way back when didn't even = consider the perks. It was an extreme passion that just swept us off = our foundations. We had no choice. =20 I still don't. =20 richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com --Apple-Mail-3--92798421 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I = looped in the early 80s with two Effectrons (sample and hold). =  
I guess I started looping because it was the only way to = create a big sound with one person or one guitar other than deafening me = and the audience. 
Looped arpeggios with the Jupiter 8 = which I still have and still love. 
When sequencers = appeared in the 80's (Studio Vision and before that the Kurzweil 250) I = looped with them.   That's what they did.
Most all = modern, folk, troubadour... anything with a verse and chorus, anything = that repeats, any ostinato is looped.
Created rap beats in the = 80's with 1/4" tape.  That was SERIOUS work!
So I guess I = loop because the kind of music I do is based on loops from the get = go. 
Since joining this group I've fiddled with the raga = like, no chord change looping and I enjoy that. 
I loop = because it's the only band members I can get to show up for = rehearsal.
I liked Philip Glass way back when.  My studio = is called "GlassWing" partially because I was fascinated with P Glass's = music.  I created the word 'glasswing' in 1978. The wing part came = from the zebra finches I used to raise.  P Glass looped = manually!
I saw Danny Gatton loop with an old tape Echoplex in = the seventies I think it was.
Same with Robert Fripp.  I = think that may have been the seventies too.  It was him solo with 2 = tape machines.
Finally, I loop for the same reason I do most = all that I do - because it's fun! 

As you = can see, my definition of looping might diverge from some of our = definitions on this list... which I love so much I read most all you = write.  

I never did music for the women. =  I have loved music passionately since I first heard Fats Domino, = Chuck Berry, Little Richard etc as a child.  They sang the way I = felt.  It was a huge revelation for a six year old.  Over = time, it just got better and better.  The perks, the side bennies = of music were a happy accident for me.    
I would = guess most of us who started music way way back when didn't even = consider the perks.  It was an extreme passion that just swept us = off our foundations.  We had no choice. =  

I still don't. =   

richard sales
<= font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38">www.richardsales.com
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= --Apple-Mail-3--92798421-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 26 21:27:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E44518345E; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 21:27:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=GynFtRjgAFFAb8yNr28Dm7JWk/kahvffWhhoEWc8V6Q=; b=eDh+n1JXRLeWnql/SYXCvJyO/9F8ipLtI8u7j1YtSJDIdAc8rGUjSI4fidFp5kBUvA kxOQ/d87pb1OgMJPze8P6PGS+vnA6qsaMnNDqBQDOkmFISG2GEMfdpKz55mLCBOq0hHR 5WO8NEP92jt/2SClsg5byoY4YyhCnaBdjJDt4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:27:39 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Which macbook for live audio? From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174785d2528fc404b03a53ba Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112634 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 21:27:40 +0000 (UTC) --0015174785d2528fc404b03a53ba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Now I have to unload one of my edps to help fund this :) On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:18 PM, marcus kirby > wrote: > > Is there much of a difference between the i5 and i7? > > A little... but for some that little is much :-)) Depends on where > the limitation happens to kick in. Go for the i7! > > Per > > --0015174785d2528fc404b03a53ba Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now I have to unload one of my edps to help fund this :)

On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com><= /span> wrote:
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 1= 1:18 PM, marcus kirby <marcuslo= ops@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is there much of a difference between the i5 and i7?

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the limitation happens to kick in. Go for the i7!

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--0015174785d2528fc404b03a53ba-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 27 17:37:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 04743183464; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:37:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4EA996C0.90603@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 13:37:04 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112635 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:37:07 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long Special Focus on Steve Roach. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Immersion Five: Circadian Rhythms" disk 2 by Steve Roach on Timeroom Editions. Details are at the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#oct Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org/listen on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 27 21:15:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3FBC5183462; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 21:15:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zZGajQ+1RKL1tgF/0QJyOUdtaYM96rhPpLgioCRTfv0=; b=R8znbmyE4vaISQu94AwN/OFXoXmOYCU+szckEP0QbllKNTLBE5B3eIZKEdt5eFzlHs 3jFMQ3bL2f21cEpiwDEslaGVGFBnVGbh2bG0QYZ9gg5G25zKLWHNOQ+wmhPFJuoqq52N wYIisvdAa0O26ZOSM0qVPlvKsCjYIWrzY6txo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 16:15:01 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: FS/SPAM: EDP+ and Diamond Memory Lane From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112636 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 21:15:03 +0000 (UTC) EDP+ w/ footswitch: $700 ship/pp (negotiable) VERY GOOD condition. Everything works properly, no issues at all. I have two of these though, and I'm moving towards a laptop setup. Diamond Memory Lane: $360 ship/pp 100% analog delay (two mn3005 chips), up to 600ms delay. Tap tempo and modulation. External jack to control tempo with a momentary switch. Also has a switch for switching between quarter note and dotted eighth delays, as well as a switch for the modulation on/off. Pedal is in good condition and comes with original adapter as well as a converter cable for the pedal power 2 supply. Both are shipping from Chicago, IL or Kansas. I'm moving on Monday, so I'd like to sell/ship these before then. Continental u.s. plzzzzz. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 27 21:19:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 11649183473; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 21:19:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jBJWAK1tANpQ4M7rfj0RonVDbRqTEstDRzPzb4dwWpU=; b=XpoAW84M+PQggSJhL8hIb4Jg1hdYsHlj7RWB8sE1JVReJi+DlilNDzdnRWgw99Haif 6ABO2Wrp/aPrOhtbbakFU9UQwIscd/5Xn+j8EbTRhuAGk12FVWjEQkmxB3rBcw2kyDVE UiMFpWCsEBT3Fi6ZHF5nk8EpxeUa/sSV1zc/0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 03:19:44 +0600 Message-ID: Subject: my first livelooping experience From: Boris Plotnikov To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112637 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 21:19:45 +0000 (UTC) This is actually very humble attempt. Still nothing special about livelooping itself (less than year of livelooping instead of 11 years of playing harmonica). I have only Boss RC2 with footswitch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tEE3zjsJ1Bg Thanks to Brendan Power for idea to use fingerrings to make beat. For some technical reasons I didn't use beatboxing for this video (my Digitech processor decline to work outdoor while it was wet weather, and beatbox without Digitech didn't sound enough good). -- Thanks, Boris Plotnikov From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 27 21:20:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E0E02183479; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 21:20:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-10-27_06:2011-10-27,2011-10-27,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1110270256 Subject: Re: my first livelooping experience From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 14:20:41 -0700 Message-id: <787CBD7E-C8A1-4126-B71D-DAF63100378B@mac.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112638 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 21:20:50 +0000 (UTC) I love this man's playing!! WOW! daniel On Oct 27, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Boris Plotnikov wrote: > This is actually very humble attempt. Still nothing special about > livelooping itself (less than year of livelooping instead of 11 years > of playing harmonica). I have only Boss RC2 with footswitch. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tEE3zjsJ1Bg > > Thanks to Brendan Power for idea to use fingerrings to make beat. > For some technical reasons I didn't use beatboxing for this video (my > Digitech processor decline to work outdoor while it was wet weather, > and beatbox without Digitech didn't sound enough good). > > > -- > Thanks, Boris Plotnikov > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 28 03:27:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56099183475; Fri, 28 Oct 2011 03:27:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_3e195720-3844-4f00-8254-6afd459dc090_" X-Originating-IP: [71.135.36.231] From: nat grant To: Subject: RE: my first livelooping experience Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 14:27:45 +1100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Oct 2011 03:27:46.0645 (UTC) FILETIME=[8FD4D050:01CC9521] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112639 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 03:27:48 +0000 (UTC) --_3e195720-3844-4f00-8254-6afd459dc090_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cool! though now i want a percussion utility belt... ------------------------------------- http://www.natgrantmusic.com = --_3e195720-3844-4f00-8254-6afd459dc090_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
cool! though now i want a percussion utility belt...



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= --_3e195720-3844-4f00-8254-6afd459dc090_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 28 10:26:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E234E183466; Fri, 28 Oct 2011 10:26:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=3k9qmT0W5JuK7WJTTjIW9nMPTYbC0AEwKuOIfUNc3oA=; b=KtkSk1H6QlqzomAnotiHr+02/OlWu2mXlZb2SsNcUBe6X2CEUSji+yyuMeCIn75WPs fgsPdEM8Zsdc+3LhOLL4lEmF0xErLt0BKDhHXBp8kLcjPNt51pnsMobt+4KTjdZtq8Cs W+jhSosDNTJQTg4K7DQFJ72A1qVuBn0VgoC2k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 13:26:29 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: my first livelooping experience From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517740ae083bb3004b05952ce Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112640 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 10:26:30 +0000 (UTC) --001517740ae083bb3004b05952ce Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Exceptional harmonica playing! Thumbs up! -Petri Lahtinen- 2011/10/28 nat grant > cool! though now i want a percussion utility belt... > > > > ------------------------------------- > http://www.natgrantmusic.com > > > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --001517740ae083bb3004b05952ce Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Exceptional harmonica playing! Thumbs up!

-Petri Lahtinen-

2011/10/28 nat grant <natskyplaysdrums@hotmail.com>
cool! though now i want a percussion utility belt...



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--001517740ae083bb3004b05952ce-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 28 10:35:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8E7C183474; Fri, 28 Oct 2011 10:35:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=cj+d2870dHatYCmKTkR9A3VG7xF5CmSKoFq3PsRxHuE=; b=HXJtTOeBm5eHVYEA0U5iVMcrXYw1JIWM5Tsg3JwgR72gYQuqirjI1b+DlK1TBzfgI7 sS4AHQ058Bp0FAE1fQ5PB+fZVGTmzr17paXDUE+mkkdQTXcMY6mSH5OOQcuj+RS3p/qs iIH1DuADO5Vw+k2dQ8ZU7pz+U4eGrluaEkHoQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4EA16561.20300@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4EA16561.20300@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 13:35:19 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sounds looped, but isn't From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517740ae01c232104b05972a6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112641 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 10:35:20 +0000 (UTC) --001517740ae01c232104b05972a6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Whoa, the feel of the tune went under my skin - really evocative piece of music! Transcending! 2011/10/21 andy butler > http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=BzWITU3L-F0 > > and make sure you keep going till the end > > andy > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --001517740ae01c232104b05972a6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Whoa, the feel of the tune went under my skin - really evocative piece of music! Transcending!

2011/10/21 andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzWITU3L-F0

and make sure you keep going till the end

andy




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--001517740ae01c232104b05972a6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 28 12:43:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CCD9183465; Fri, 28 Oct 2011 12:43:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4EAAA370.9070205@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 05:43:28 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: my first livelooping experience References: <787CBD7E-C8A1-4126-B71D-DAF63100378B@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <787CBD7E-C8A1-4126-B71D-DAF63100378B@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112642 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 12:43:34 +0000 (UTC) On Oct 27, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Boris Plotnikov wrote: >> > This is actually very humble attempt. Still nothing special about >> > livelooping itself (less than year of livelooping instead of 11 years >> > of playing harmonica). I have only Boss RC2 with footswitch. >> > >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tEE3zjsJ1Bg This is really great! I also just went and saw your youtube video playing Scrapple from the Apple by Charlie Parker. What a monster harp player! Nice work, Boris!!!! and I'm with Nat Grant............the harp utility belt is such a great idea. I'm always bending over to pick up all the very small instruments that I play when I loop. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 28 20:39:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74A79183460; Fri, 28 Oct 2011 20:39:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4EAB12F9.40400@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 16:39:21 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #760 for October 27, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4PWeD.A.HwG.HMxqOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112643 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 20:39:35 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/111027.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #760 October 27, 2011. RECAP: On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Steve Roach. The Featured CD at Midnight was disk two from "Immersion Five: Shroud of Night" on Timeroom Editions. http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#oct PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Polaris and Berolina Train Collision (Ricochet Dream) Krzysztof Horn Bass Communion Conflux Cenotaph (tonefloat) Mark Moser Resolute I Hear Your Signals (none) Aria Rostami Cleare * Uniform (Audiomoves) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Steve Roach Shroud of Night Immersion Five: Shroud of Night (Timeroom Editions) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Synth.nl. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Rhythms" on Groove Unlimited. http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#nov Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/listen on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 29 03:11:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21765183473; Sat, 29 Oct 2011 03:11:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4EAB6EC8.4020104@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 23:11:04 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Thought Radio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112644 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 03:11:08 +0000 (UTC) THOUGHT RADIO: http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio ======================================================================= My next stint on Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show, will be Saturday, October 29 at 6 am EDT/GMT-4. I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs in Phase One. I host the show every other week. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 29 04:13:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 71D2318345F; Sat, 29 Oct 2011 04:13:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Ed Durbrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-104513862 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: my first livelooping experience Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 13:13:33 +0900 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-VirusScan: Outbound; msa01b; Sat, 29 Oct 2011 13:13:35 +0900 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112645 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 04:13:39 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-104513862 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wow, I felt I was at your party! Super playing. Really. On Oct 28, 2011, at 6:19 AM, Boris Plotnikov wrote: > This is actually very humble attempt. Still nothing special about > livelooping itself (less than year of livelooping instead of 11 years > of playing harmonica). I have only Boss RC2 with footswitch. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tEE3zjsJ1Bg > > Thanks to Brendan Power for idea to use fingerrings to make beat. > For some technical reasons I didn't use beatboxing for this video (my > Digitech processor decline to work outdoor while it was wet weather, > and beatbox without Digitech didn't sound enough good). > > > -- > Thanks, Boris Plotnikov > Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ --Apple-Mail-3-104513862 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow, I felt I was at your = party! Super playing. Really.

On Oct 28, 2011, at 6:19 = AM, Boris Plotnikov wrote:

This = is actually very humble attempt. Still nothing special = about
livelooping itself (less than year of livelooping instead of 11 = years
of playing harmonica). I have only Boss RC2 with = footswitch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=3Dplayer_embedded&v=3Dt= EE3zjsJ1Bg

Thanks to Brendan Power for idea to use = fingerrings to make beat.
For some technical reasons I didn't use = beatboxing for this video (my
Digitech processor decline to work = outdoor while it was wet weather,
and beatbox without Digitech didn't = sound enough good).


--
Thanks, Boris = Plotnikov


= --Apple-Mail-3-104513862-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 29 09:22:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBFE8183465; Sat, 29 Oct 2011 09:22:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 694934317/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.185.191/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.185.191 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvcBAPLDq05V0rm//2dsb2JhbAAMN5pXkggBAQEBAgE4QAYLCyEWDwkDAgECAUUcAYd+s3CJAgSZKIxG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,423,1315177200"; d="scan'208";a="694934317" Message-ID: <4EABC5D2.8090404@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 10:22:26 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Why...? (Ed) References: <55F7DEEA-DDB0-421B-BC3A-71946155D612@sea.plala.or.jp> In-Reply-To: <55F7DEEA-DDB0-421B-BC3A-71946155D612@sea.plala.or.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112646 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 09:22:25 +0000 (UTC) Ed Durbrow wrote: > Originally I wanted to play lute duets while busking. which pieces? andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 29 11:15:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF2DC183473; Sat, 29 Oct 2011 11:15:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <03065582-BCC8-4FCF-98BD-B0723F9D9D8A@sea.plala.or.jp> From: Ed Durbrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4EABC5D2.8090404@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5-129801779 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Why...? (Ed) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 20:15:01 +0900 References: <55F7DEEA-DDB0-421B-BC3A-71946155D612@sea.plala.or.jp> <4EABC5D2.8090404@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-VirusScan: Outbound; msa03b; Sat, 29 Oct 2011 20:15:01 +0900 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112647 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 11:15:05 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5-129801779 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Oct 29, 2011, at 6:22 PM, andy butler wrote: > Ed Durbrow wrote: >> Originally I wanted to play lute duets while busking. > > which pieces? There are heaps of them, particularly treble and grounds would work well with a looper. Dalza has a nice one that could be improvised on (just one chord). If I could refresh my memory and work back up the Pasymeasure's Pavan by John Daniel it would be a killer. Would have been, I should say. You can hear the beginning of that at this outdated location: http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/luteCD.html Anyway, the busking scene is no good here anymore so I never did use the looper with it. Hey, you just gave me a good idea: a video loop of the ground and split screen with the treble on the other half. Thanks, Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ --Apple-Mail-5-129801779 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Oct = 29, 2011, at 6:22 PM, andy butler wrote:
Ed Durbrow wrote:
Originally I wanted to play lute duets while busking. =

which = pieces?

There are heaps of them, = particularly treble and grounds would work well with a looper. Dalza has = a nice one that could be improvised on (just one chord). If I = could refresh my memory and work back up the = Pasymeasure's Pavan by John Daniel it would be a killer. Would have = been, I should say.
You can hear the beginning of that at this = outdated location: http://www9.plala.or= .jp/edurbrow/luteCD.html
Anyway, the busking scene is no good = here anymore so I never did use the looper with it. 
Hey, = you just gave me a good idea: a video loop of the ground and split = screen with the treble on the other = half.
Thanks,



= --Apple-Mail-5-129801779-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 29 15:54:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D721183473; Sat, 29 Oct 2011 15:54:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=3kn4snR/2TdwuYXvh+wm0CPnSGzQFWY7ukd303aPFv0= c=1 sm=1 a=mN7w_UeBGaUA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:17 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=YQgPcxCyhtr9pqx8GjAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: my first livelooping experience From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= In-Reply-To: <787CBD7E-C8A1-4126-B71D-DAF63100378B@mac.com> Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 08:54:25 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <8C36C75F-D843-4373-940A-3309FEC0157F@charter.net> References: <787CBD7E-C8A1-4126-B71D-DAF63100378B@mac.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112648 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 15:54:27 +0000 (UTC) Very fine Boris. > On Oct 27, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Boris Plotnikov wrote: > >> This is actually very humble attempt. Still nothing special about >> livelooping itself (less than year of livelooping instead of 11 years >> of playing harmonica). I have only Boss RC2 with footswitch. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tEE3zjsJ1Bg From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 29 16:44:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 72CC9183466; Sat, 29 Oct 2011 16:44:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Kelly Reynolds Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Rane Mixers for sale Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 11:44:36 -0500 Message-Id: <49343C81-5338-4CA7-841A-00AD6298CCAA@aol.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:244631904:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33854eac2d843b11 X-AOL-IP: 184.100.93.55 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112649 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 16:44:56 +0000 (UTC) II have 2 Rane SM 82 16 channel (8 stereo) mixers and 2 and 1 SM 26 = splitter mixer and 1 SM 26 B splitter mixer for sale. Asking 625 includes shipping for all 4. Individual 175 includes = shipping Let me know offline if your interested. Kelly= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 29 19:44:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C97DA183474; Sat, 29 Oct 2011 19:44:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sat, 29 Oct 2011 19:44:27 UTC X-Originating-IP: [174.253.194.15] X-Originating-Email: [deafrose58@hotmail.com] Message-ID: To: Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IG15IGZpcnN0IGxpdmVsb29waW5nIGV4cGVyaWVuY2U=?= Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2_1319917179339" From: Jeremy devros X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2011 19:39:26.0917 (UTC) FILETIME=[77EA1750:01CC9672] Date: 29 Oct 2011 12:39:26 -0700 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112650 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 19:44:27 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2_1319917179339 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline DQpTd2VldCEgR29vZCBqb2IsIEJvcmlzLiAKClNlbnQgZnJvbSBteSBWZXJpem9uIFdpcmVsZXNzIFBob25lCgotLS0tLSBSZXBseSBtZXNzYWdlIC0tLS0tCkZyb206ICJCb3JpcyBQbG90bmlrb3YiIDxwbG9ib3Jpc0BnbWFpbC5jb20+ClRvOiA8TG9vcGVycy1EZWxpZ2h0QGxvb3BlcnMtZGVsaWdodC5jb20+ClN1YmplY3Q6IG15IGZpcnN0IGxpdmVsb29waW5nIGV4cGVyaWVuY2UKRGF0ZTogVGh1LCBPY3QgMjcsIDIwMTEgMjoxOSBwbQoKCgoNCg== ------=_Part_2_1319917179339-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 29 22:57:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C03AE183475; Sat, 29 Oct 2011 22:57:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 889582.27486.bm@smtp104.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: N2UuCZEVM1mB_X_u4LhFXjPfGY_lluCmBf_9GBES6y.7GPd gT.fDU48HxFcJdPnBLuyzvbfX2PIhLsyq4erMEDAMLJG.pFAMEsHqFa7ls5o uuwcide4RBCaRFmgCUzTHQm.3ZHgFx8e3jvZ24BEvJ8DFsO1TgCWA14cx.3I SQdoQM_xjTGR9DhZ4B.CKZwdCc7Qw7QfqfV.0KY1jwmwPgHqZtzO.CTDlYrJ AuYaCgboIo40wEDpQR7d7tOOS4WTfMg.JuLu1xnhNFOr43wpYkTmVekxogeS sYnm6E3HExc3DILNrqtStnS3ei1ok1PfA2YaO0BP0OV3dEn6gyjuCmsN7u66 GPWoKNXQ8sQXOtSyi1k.2nnM8HA0e4ONFrBaWY0wTXQvRnOpJ5dYFoOJNUQH U X-Yahoo-SMTP: D9yazeWswBDL7tdRauhy7AWumUUpVr1iIdv0O0tl6PLXPr1F Message-Id: <86B0FA92-763C-4CB6-9D8A-947836F3F5DD@carlsonarts.com> From: Michael Carlson Music To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Why...? Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 15:57:09 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <0o3hPD.A.Fy.ITIrOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112651 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 22:57:12 +0000 (UTC) On Oct 21, 2011, at 10:45 PM, william middlemiss wrote: > Why do you 'loop'? What got you started on this path? > My first electronic instrument was an Ensoniq ESQ-1. It was one of the very first workstation synths. You could record MIDI sequences and by pressing the button for the sequence it would play and loop it until you pressed the next button, and then it would move to that one and play it until you pressed another sequence's button. I didn't really realize this was "looping," and never really performed in front of others, but enjoyed creating loops and playing them in sequence like that. I saw the virtuosic guitarist Phil Keaggy in the early 80s looping in a live concert, probably with an EDP, and was completely blown away by what he was doing, and this always stuck in my mind as something I wish I could do. A couple of years ago I started looping vocally as an extension of my a cappella recording habit of overdubbing my own voice to make arrangements of songs. The challenge for me was figuring out a way to do it live on stage! I think it takes a certain kind of ego to want to hear your own voice in many harmonic and contrapuntal layers. (I once dubbed my looping system as an "ego enhancement device.") Also, I got tired of trying to find singers that could perform at the level that I wanted/needed for vocal jazz. So, I started expending energy arranging and singing as a solo vocal looping artist. And I fell in love with it and can't stop! > Was it a mechanism for solo performance? to record a vamp? > Up 'til now, I've been more interested in arranging complete songs than simply improvising or singing over a vamp. But now I'm thinking of simplifying my process and experimenting with ambient music. I've never been really interested in ambient improvisation because it comes so naturally to me, and I tend to convince myself that something has to be hard to be worth doing. But I'm realizing the expressive possibilities, and hoping to glean some techniques from you all to make it more enjoyable and interesting to me, and therefore to an audience. I may also explore looping as a song-writing medium as well. > A compositional device, a new avenue of expression? (repetition as > compositional device?) > Yeah, I'm heading this way, I think. I want to learn ways to use pitch shifting of different loops and tracks to create harmonic structures. > An 'artistic statement' in itself? as if to say "I DONT NEED NO > STINKIN BAND!" > There's definitely an aspect of this - If I cant find singers to sing with me, then I will sing all the $%!#@ parts myself! > > With me, it's been all of the above, and I've jumped among 7 or 8 > devices along the way. > > How about you? > I have pretty much exclusively used Mobius as a standalone platform for live looping, first on a PC laptop, and now on my Macbook Pro with a Firewire interface and cheap microphone, sometimes using some compression and a tube pre-amp. Recently, I have begun using a VoiceLive floor unit for harmonizations, octave drop for bass, and other effects. However, I have recently started to use my iPhone to loop with an iRig interface. I may be moving that direction, processing the vocals first with the VoiceLive, once I simplify my looping process and move towards ambient. I dunno. We'll see. Peace and adventure, Michael Carlson (TripleOhNine) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 30 10:41:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC1C0183465; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 10:41:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4EAD29BA.5040209@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 03:40:58 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Sounds looped, but isn't References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112652 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 10:41:05 +0000 (UTC) > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzWITU3L-F0 > This is an amazing piece of art! And, if circular breathing is not live looping, I don't know what is. The drones are continuous..........it is akin to Stanosaur's feedback looping music. The melody, the timbre and the harmony are just exquisite. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rick ps I've seen tutorials on how to learn circular breathing. Seeing this astonishingly beautiful piece of music makes me want to get serious about learning how to do this. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 30 15:17:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 62CAF183464; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:17:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 695385489/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.29.106/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.29.106 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgcCABwlrE5YbR1q/2dsb2JhbAAMNppXkggBAQEBAzhAEQsYCRYPCQMCAQIBRRwBiAazFYkCBJkojEU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,426,1315177200"; d="scan'208";a="695385489" Message-ID: <4EAD6A73.6010209@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:17:07 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Why...? (Ed) References: <55F7DEEA-DDB0-421B-BC3A-71946155D612@sea.plala.or.jp> <4EABC5D2.8090404@tiscali.co.uk> <03065582-BCC8-4FCF-98BD-B0723F9D9D8A@sea.plala.or.jp> In-Reply-To: <03065582-BCC8-4FCF-98BD-B0723F9D9D8A@sea.plala.or.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112653 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:17:03 +0000 (UTC) Ed Durbrow wrote: > > On Oct 29, 2011, at 6:22 PM, andy butler wrote: >> Ed Durbrow wrote: >>> Originally I wanted to play lute duets while busking. >> >> which pieces? > > There are heaps of them, particularly treble and grounds would work well > with a looper. Dalza has a nice one that could be improvised on (just > one chord). Yup, the Piva. somehow the "loop"'s a bit too basic to be interesting >If I could refresh my memory and work back up the > Pasymeasure's Pavan by John Daniel > location: http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/luteCD.html nice, and great playing! Do you have a link to the tab? Don't know if I can read tab and operate a looper simultaneously but might be fun to try. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 30 16:06:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D34B183464; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 16:06:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=84a8c/NoejdlIjLigrpL9vv/Nb3gfpkGjxjAEGteeM4=; b=ED7oGkTAuST+MbjhWuxedqMSdAfD3y4ojRfye5vC84wlXoeXLMzFjKGrERrj0XJnfh 89c+kH4V/SQKaTdZmAFmz1BqYhTCtlv29U/exY0HFIA39+ZVsVTUYvYqu4LyojzNrj2F IzxsZlPNQo1/4pttd7YgCa7WCHRKIm14HSgxU= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Subject: Re: Sounds looped, but isn't From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: <4EA16561.20300@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 12:06:40 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0382D096-DDEF-4924-835B-9E31C270A0E4@gmail.com> References: <4EA16561.20300@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112654 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 16:06:44 +0000 (UTC) Man that starts to get pretty awesome around the 6 min mark. Sounds = like his own manually created tempo synced delay:) Thanks for sharing that Andy! On Oct 21, 2011, at 8:28 AM, andy butler wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DBzWITU3L-F0 >=20 > and make sure you keep going till the end >=20 > andy >=20 -------------------- Todd Matthews toddbass.com twitter: gtodd876 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 30 22:29:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 454FB183464; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:29:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Zmj0BUBUfwoOSGzBICbMifG/JgfS33Y++rK8OBwdI9c=; b=kZnXi792MaCJ1gbWtmXCEsshN4gn0mxTKlAE50Z7GlujxbjDHo4yTLt4G1Aba5zyoZ bGzj1UUAvquxNpVW9GBa12qjtVF7n6dXuJbZ3nc9Zipbj43IS2xL/9x6wltR0z4z8B5f ELSckbTJNaKuzcdZARUqpmnq7v/kMQgOP/v/k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0382D096-DDEF-4924-835B-9E31C270A0E4@gmail.com> References: <4EA16561.20300@tiscali.co.uk> <0382D096-DDEF-4924-835B-9E31C270A0E4@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:29:02 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sounds looped, but isn't From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174795383d0a9204b08ba664 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112655 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:29:03 +0000 (UTC) --0015174795383d0a9204b08ba664 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Very Nice! I'm guessing it's the bagpipes without the bag, so I'll throw in a semi-random link to Rufus Harley, playing A Love Supreme on bagpipes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmaicurzPb0 On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: > Man that starts to get pretty awesome around the 6 min mark. Sounds like > his own manually created tempo synced delay:) > > Thanks for sharing that Andy! > On Oct 21, 2011, at 8:28 AM, andy butler wrote: > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzWITU3L-F0 > > > > and make sure you keep going till the end > > > > andy > > > > -------------------- > Todd Matthews > toddbass.com > twitter: gtodd876 > > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --0015174795383d0a9204b08ba664 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very Nice! I'm guessing it's the bagpipes without the bag, so I'= ;ll throw in a semi-random link to Rufus Harley, playing A Love Supreme on = bagpipes:
http:= //www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZmaicurzPb0

On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Todd Matthe= ws <gtmatthews= @gmail.com> wrote:
Man that starts to get =A0pretty awesome around the 6 min mark. Sounds like= his own manually created tempo synced delay:)

Thanks for sharing that Andy!
On Oct 21, 2011, at 8:28 AM, andy butler wrote:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DBzWITU3L-F0
>
> and make sure you keep going till the end
>
> andy
>

--------------------
Todd Matthews
toddbass.com
twitter: gtodd876




--
Art Simon
simart@gmail.com
myspace [dot] com/= artsimon
--0015174795383d0a9204b08ba664-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 30 22:39:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5FE4C183463; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:39:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dmPtfz1JTzZLJME1ztUCd/s2ZVfgP2oNhHnsSz6D8pY=; b=AdA/a9LneMe+SChpxWC6D8HG/mGIfzh6qywx7mRv/osNBMrmWfM+KmQb9aR4UuGKON rfk3vPDNBpsqOKFUM4cnWqPP6jBj0Jj7WsRCfJQ4mDDV/jF0AfEkcYtqMq5uh0P3OBI4 XL+UmuzXDjck8IOmcI9nYjTJVfn2Bdd40V108= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 00:39:10 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: OT: Valpastus - new project by Petri Lahtinen From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517740ae07351ea04b08bcab9 Resent-Message-ID: <84Kp0C.A.gP.PIdrOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112656 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:39:11 +0000 (UTC) --001517740ae07351ea04b08bcab9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi you guys and gals on the list; I'm doing new stuff (I recently got an EP out, but cant help myself) under moniker Valpastus, this is my first single http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen/valpastus-saalistaja-toka I thought I got the courage to try to share it here for feedback, cause it's at least a bit on the weird side, hopefully :-D Greetings from Finland, -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/album/origami --001517740ae07351ea04b08bcab9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi you guys and gals on the list;

I'm doing new stuff (I recentl= y got an EP out, but cant help myself)
under moniker Valpastus, this is = my first single

http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen/val= pastus-saalistaja-toka

I thought I got the courage to try to share it here for feedback,
ca= use it's at least a bit on the weird side, hopefully

:-D

= Greetings from Finland,

--
Petri Lahtinen

http://www.petrilahtinen.com
http://petrilah= tinen.bandcamp.com/album/origami
--001517740ae07351ea04b08bcab9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 30 22:54:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A386183463; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:54:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=CKBBFOpPYfBSFfEY1Rl9efxuAv/fdt7oFsWUUq3BrLQ= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:17 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=BDu0MIltqi5sYSgSfGwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:117 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Another New Video Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:54:03 -0700 Message-Id: <0D018079-D607-44C8-9E1E-19EE403FF891@charter.net> To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <2v3ooB.A.4g.MWdrOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112657 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:54:04 +0000 (UTC) Hello again there friends and fiends alike. I've just put another little = experimental little video on YouTube - music and video both by me and = hot from the proverbial oven (music just completed yesterday, and video = this afternoon). I off it up for your perusal and public ridicule: = = From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 30 23:56:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3107183464; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:56:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2424 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:56:51 UTC Message-Id: <74161071-F35D-4FA7-A2C6-0DB3E161199A@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: LP-1 for Sale??? Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 16:16:19 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112658 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:56:51 +0000 (UTC) Does anyone have an LP-1 for sale at a reasonable price? My friend Mandoman is interested. Please respond off list if you do Thanks Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 31 00:00:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F5F6183464; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 00:00:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wm1UWK8Rbq69q8HWP+f/lXqHdsnqnyW7eGknVS7ydKc=; b=brrDTfgxseQhNaVSxIPoqufpK1W48hTp6GsXwCYz/U7qDJjnQS7uj5BPsSS4RGZ9no GF+HgCZF+AhPKo4nlTF4b501QnKK818jwuipjwdLHvgejJzwRegIS5TNWYr1+57KonRm mkHbPvP+T5h89O6ejeu99uK9wzxKBBaG3lQIk= Message-ID: <4EADE489.4060601@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 00:58:01 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110920 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Another New Video References: <0D018079-D607-44C8-9E1E-19EE403FF891@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <0D018079-D607-44C8-9E1E-19EE403FF891@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112659 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 00:00:47 +0000 (UTC) Am 30.10.2011 23:54, schrieb tEd ® KiLLiAn: > Hello again there friends and fiends alike. I've just put another little experimental little video on YouTube - music and video both by me and hot from the proverbial oven (music just completed yesterday, and video this afternoon). I off it up for your perusal and public ridicule: Hey Ted, didn't know you were into the IDM genre - are you, or was this just a kind of "let's see if I could do it if I wanted to" experiment? I find the video to be much more aggressive/experimental/glitchy than the music - time to work on your hardcore music skills ;) Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 31 00:36:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51DB8183465; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 00:36:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 00:36:15 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 01:29:32 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20111031002932.133940@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Subject: Re: Pedalboard friendly splitters and mixers? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19513Enu0V5M/oK2aOAxVXc70dcedLZCRzBovQqzo Gu9VzdmxCRUfLNbVhS4cMHHPC1nTH8LyQnYg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: io/FA2lVbHIhWNsjwjU01pQiJihyahD8 Resent-Message-ID: <5mEn4D.A.BuB.A2erOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112660 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 00:36:16 +0000 (UTC) Hi Mark I'm using Nobels switches in my pedalboard. http://www.nobels.com/en/index.htm In fact, I might have two "Nobels AB-V A/B Selector Box" for sale: http://www.nobels.com/cgi-bin/products/show.pl?e_ab-v They are very versatile and work great: AB-V A/B Selector Box "Excellent value for money!" (Music Mart Magazine, England) AB-V Universal Switchbox (active) The A/B-V lets you switch between 2 inputs (guitars) to one output or one input to two outputs (amplifiers or preamps). Set perfect volume levels as each channel has a separate volume control. 2 LEDs indicate which channel is active. If only one instrument is connected to one output the A/B-V can be used to switch between two preset volume levels. * Controls: Volume A, Volume B * Power: Electr. stabilized power supply 9V..12V DC, min. 100 mA, 2,1mm, inner neg. Let me know if you're interested! best regards Buzap -- NEU: FreePhone - 0ct/min Handyspartarif mit Geld-zurück-Garantie! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 31 00:58:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90B8618345C; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 00:58:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=3kn4snR/2TdwuYXvh+wm0CPnSGzQFWY7ukd303aPFv0= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:17 a=zQiYORMAAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=Cp0_AXTNAAAA:8 a=JqEG_dyiAAAA:8 a=D8GWN1BQZy4Gb6COG44A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Another New Video From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= In-Reply-To: <4EADE489.4060601@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 17:58:07 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <0D018079-D607-44C8-9E1E-19EE403FF891@charter.net> <4EADE489.4060601@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112661 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 00:58:09 +0000 (UTC) Rainer, I don't even know what IDM means (though I think I can guess). The basic underlying "beat" tracks were an outtake of the collaboration = I did with Krispen Hartung last year "Dance Music for Inanimate Objects" = Not wanting it to go to waste, I just decided to regurgitate it back up = and do my "let's throw everything but the kitchen sink at it and see = what happens" thing. The looped guitar parts (and several other things) all were played and = added yesterday. It's a bit of a chaotic mess admittedly - but I sometimes like musical = chaotic messes. I was invited to do it for for a compilation CD a friend of mine is = putting together - for which it had to fit a 4-minute time slot = limitation. It started out as a segment about 2-3 times as long snipped from a three = and a half hour recording session. Does that make sense? It's not a genre I think of as "my own" natively (I don't dance or go to = clubs). So, yes, it is just something I thought I could do . . . or try = beginning a few years back. Thanks for the critique. Sincerely, Ted On Oct 30, 2011, at 4:58 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Am 30.10.2011 23:54, schrieb tEd =AE KiLLiAn: >> Hello again there friends and fiends alike. I've just put another = little experimental little video on YouTube - music and video both by me = and hot from the proverbial oven (music just completed yesterday, and = video this afternoon). I off it up for your perusal and public = ridicule: > Hey Ted, >=20 > didn't know you were into the IDM genre - are you, or was this just a = kind of "let's see if I could do it if I wanted to" experiment? >=20 > I find the video to be much more aggressive/experimental/glitchy than = the music - time to work on your hardcore music skills ;) >=20 > Rainer >=20 > --=20 > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 31 01:33:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4284C183473; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 01:33:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=uOucE5XyEn/D3MiTrxC4k9pQrofMzlngbRxNQ7rWg/k=; b=bk9gESbq060axyoKGOcqL7RbxcEft4zgRzWM4XKQztNeEQihzZflgvvjGCHJRfGGF4 11oJljv1zr2wvaGiZgkZAXefH9zmKkQf3NWs6ekzK5L6PnbWiGqSJGyco37UN8GKM4Vd 0xFejBbQYHETocpu9Ia3GHSfHm1JyH3D4gJw4= From: Phil Clevenger Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-267710820 Subject: Re: Why...? Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 18:33:30 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112662 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 01:33:50 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-267710820 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've been lurking and posting here long enough that this list deserves = at least an introduction from me, and this is a nice vehicle for doing = so :) On Oct 21, 2011, at 10:45 PM, william middlemiss wrote: > Why do you 'loop'? What got you started on this path? I started looping as a way to re-engange with music after a very very = long absence. Maybe almost 20 years? I was concerned that I might have = lost all ability so I thought a simple looper might help. My sights were = set low, I just wanted to get back some chops and not embarrass myself = in front of real people. So, I knew Mark Hamburg, and that he was a longtime looper, so I = consulted with him, and he did his best to help, but looping is a hard = thing to counsel I think ! I went back and forth and back and forth... = He must have laughed as he watched me stumble from my first attempt (Jam = Man Stereo, 3 days then returned) to a Line6 JL4, and on to the EDP and = beyond.... I had thought the JL4 would be the perfect thing to get me = back into the game, but it just felt like a karaoke machine to me. It's = going on eBay one of these days for sure... I've always played original = music, so 'jamming along with the blues' has never been very satisfying, = looper or not.=20 Anyway, after considerable research, I jumped in deep and acquired an = EDP and found something special... sure, it could help me with my chops = by accompanying me and all, and it did that, but more importantly it = raised the bar considerably: it pushed me into places where I've never = been, surprising me and challenging me along the way... just looping my = own stuff is boring... interacting with the EDP is an adventure. More = like a saxophone than a tape recorder, I really consider it a distinct = musical instrument. Later I bought an LP-1 from Mark, and really enjoyed = adding it to the fray... it's like having a backup band for the EDP... ! I have also acquired a Repeater, ostensibly to use for vocal loops, but = I've had zero time to even begin that exploration... and I am among = those awaiting an LP2 as well - so we will see :) Looping with the EDP and the LP-1 has been great. At my age, it's hard = to 'get a band together,' and really I have little tolerance for the = foibles of actual people anymore anyway - !! So it's a great way to make = what I consider to be original, adult music, but it fits into the = outrageous demands of my adult life.... and it is a constant = intellectual pursuit as well.... my wife sometimes jokes, "Whatever = happened to picking up the guitar and playing a freaking song?" but what = gets me going is listening to what Andre LaFosse or Bill Walker or any = number of you are doing... and then chasing that and seeing what = happens... this keeps my brain alive, and hopefully will keep Alzheimers = at bay :) Thanks all of you at Looper's Delight for informing this process and = answering (or not) my naive questions along the way :) Phil :) --Apple-Mail-1-267710820 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I've = been lurking and posting here long enough that this list deserves at = least an introduction from me, and this is a nice vehicle for doing so = :)

On Oct 21, 2011, at 10:45 PM, william middlemiss = wrote:

Why do you = 'loop'? What got you started on this = path?

I started looping as a way = to re-engange with music after a very very long absence. Maybe almost 20 = years? I was concerned that I might have lost all ability so I thought a = simple looper might help. My sights were set low, I just wanted to get = back some chops and not embarrass myself in front of real = people.

So, I knew Mark Hamburg, and that he = was a longtime looper, so I consulted with him, and he did his best to = help, but looping is a hard thing to counsel I think ! I went back and = forth and back and forth... He must have laughed as he watched me = stumble from my first attempt (Jam Man Stereo, 3 days then returned) to = a Line6 JL4, and on to the EDP and beyond.... I had thought the JL4 = would be the perfect thing to get me back into the game, but it just = felt like a karaoke machine to me. It's going on eBay one of these days = for sure... I've always played original music, so 'jamming along with = the blues' has never been very satisfying, looper or = not. 

Anyway, after considerable research, = I jumped in deep and acquired an EDP and found something special... = sure, it could help me with my chops by accompanying me and all, and it = did that, but more importantly it raised the bar considerably: it pushed = me into places where I've never been, surprising me and challenging me = along the way... just looping my own stuff is boring... interacting with = the EDP is an adventure. More like a saxophone than a tape recorder, I = really consider it a distinct musical instrument. Later I bought an LP-1 = from Mark, and really enjoyed adding it to the fray... it's like having = a backup band for the EDP... !

I have also = acquired a Repeater, ostensibly to use for vocal loops, but I've had = zero time to even begin that exploration... and I am among those = awaiting an LP2 as well - so we will see = :)

Looping with the EDP and the LP-1 has been = great. At my age, it's hard to 'get a band together,' and really I have = little tolerance for the foibles of actual people anymore anyway - !! So = it's a great way to make what I consider to be original,  adult = music, but it fits into the outrageous demands of my adult life.... and = it is a constant intellectual pursuit as well.... my wife sometimes = jokes, "Whatever happened to picking up the guitar and playing a = freaking song?" but what gets me going is listening to what Andre = LaFosse or Bill Walker or any number of you are doing... and then = chasing that and seeing what happens... this keeps my brain alive, and = hopefully will keep Alzheimers at bay :)

Thanks = all of you at Looper's Delight for informing this process and answering = (or not) my naive questions along the way = :)

Phil = :)

= --Apple-Mail-1-267710820-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 31 02:44:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C98EE183465; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 02:44:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=wC2i5zl5NpAknbri0By5eTDPJ5IRTk1R/ftripbcFFs=; b=KTCD2g+/MRKwFUD3nZNZmUHK3gGerfG7K6vT87+vtieO6fakzS9498a/f12MU0TBfm gJ68CMVz5usnnp4v3zebn7CwcWNCuI+pfYHzMSSD/zhdRD2NBwkVcuoODC++oXLbjB/8 EbmG/t9EOg+QPRKFZ0te05REZYGMm5uvajxaI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 03:44:21 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why...? From: Per Boysen To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174be49656051104b08f3757 Resent-Message-ID: <9Jwt0C.A.8aD.HugrOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112663 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 02:44:23 +0000 (UTC) --0015174be49656051104b08f3757 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cool! I used the EDP/repeater combo for quite some time. An excellent choice! On Monday, October 31, 2011, Phil Clevenger wrote: > I've been lurking and posting here long enough that this list deserves at least an introduction from me, and this is a nice vehicle for doing so :) > On Oct 21, 2011, at 10:45 PM, william middlemiss wrote: > > Why do you 'loop'? What got you started on this path? > > I started looping as a way to re-engange with music after a very very long absence. Maybe almost 20 years? I was concerned that I might have lost all ability so I thought a simple looper might help. My sights were set low, I just wanted to get back some chops and not embarrass myself in front of real people. > So, I knew Mark Hamburg, and that he was a longtime looper, so I consulted with him, and he did his best to help, but looping is a hard thing to counsel I think ! I went back and forth and back and forth... He must have laughed as he watched me stumble from my first attempt (Jam Man Stereo, 3 days then returned) to a Line6 JL4, and on to the EDP and beyond.... I had thought the JL4 would be the perfect thing to get me back into the game, but it just felt like a karaoke machine to me. It's going on eBay one of these days for sure... I've always played original music, so 'jamming along with the blues' has never been very satisfying, looper or not. > Anyway, after considerable research, I jumped in deep and acquired an EDP and found something special... sure, it could help me with my chops by accompanying me and all, and it did that, but more importantly it raised the bar considerably: it pushed me into places where I've never been, surprising me and challenging me along the way... just looping my own stuff is boring... interacting with the EDP is an adventure. More like a saxophone than a tape recorder, I really consider it a distinct musical instrument. Later I bought an LP-1 from Mark, and really enjoyed adding it to the fray... it's like having a backup band for the EDP... ! > I have also acquired a Repeater, ostensibly to use for vocal loops, but I've had zero time to even begin that exploration... and I am among those awaiting an LP2 as well - so we will see :) > Looping with the EDP and the LP-1 has been great. At my age, it's hard to 'get a band together,' and really I have little tolerance for the foibles of actual people anymore anyway - !! So it's a great way to make what I consider to be original, adult music, but it fits into the outrageous demands of my adult life.... and it is a constant intellectual pursuit as well.... my wife sometimes jokes, "Whatever happened to picking up the guitar and playing a freaking song?" but what gets me going is listening to what Andre LaFosse or Bill Walker or any number of you are doing... and then chasing that and seeing what happens... this keeps my brain alive, and hopefully will keep Alzheimers at bay :) > Thanks all of you at Looper's Delight for informing this process and answering (or not) my naive questions along the way :) > Phil :) > -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen --0015174be49656051104b08f3757 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Cool! I used the EDP/repeater combo for quite some time. An excellent c= hoice!


On Monday, October 31, 2011, Phil Clevenger <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrote= :
> I've been lurking and posting here long enough that this list dese= rves at least an introduction from me, and this is a nice vehicle for doing= so :)
> On Oct 21, 2011, at 10:45 PM, william middlemiss wrote:
>
> Why do you 'loop'? What got you started on this path?<= br>>
> I started looping as a way to re-engange with music after a= very very long absence. Maybe almost 20 years? I was concerned that I migh= t have lost all ability so I thought a simple looper might help. My sights = were set low, I just wanted to get back some chops and not embarrass myself= in front of real people.
> So, I knew Mark Hamburg, and that he was a longtime looper, so I consu= lted with him, and he did his best to help, but looping is a hard thing to = counsel I think ! I went back and forth and back and forth...=C2=A0He must = have laughed as he watched me stumble from my first attempt (Jam Man Stereo= , 3 days then returned) to a Line6 JL4, and on to the EDP and beyond.... I = had thought the JL4 would be the perfect thing to get me back into the game= , but it just felt like a karaoke machine to me. It's going on eBay one= of these days for sure... I've always played original music, so 'j= amming along with the blues' has never been very satisfying, looper or = not.=C2=A0
> Anyway, after considerable research, I jumped in deep and acquired an = EDP and found something special... sure, it could help me with my chops by = accompanying me and all, and it did that, but more importantly it raised th= e bar considerably: it pushed me into places where I've never been, sur= prising me and challenging me along the way... just looping my own stuff is= boring... interacting with the EDP is an adventure. More like a saxophone = than a tape recorder, I really consider it a distinct musical instrument. L= ater I bought an LP-1 from Mark, and really enjoyed adding it to the fray..= . it's like having a backup band for the EDP... !
> I have also acquired a Repeater, ostensibly to use for vocal loops, bu= t I've had zero time to even begin that exploration... and I am among t= hose awaiting an LP2 as well - so we will see :)
> Looping with the E= DP and the LP-1 has been great. At my age, it's hard to 'get a band= together,' and really I have little tolerance for the foibles of actua= l people anymore anyway - !! So it's a great way to make what I conside= r to be original, =C2=A0adult music, but it fits into the outrageous demand= s of my adult life.... and it is a constant intellectual pursuit as well...= . my wife sometimes jokes, "Whatever happened to picking up the guitar= and playing a freaking song?" but what gets me going is listening to = what Andre LaFosse or Bill Walker or any number of you are doing... and the= n chasing that and seeing what happens... this keeps my brain alive, and ho= pefully will keep Alzheimers at bay :)
> Thanks all of you at Looper's Delight for informing this process a= nd answering (or not) my naive questions along the way :)
> Phil :)>

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.y= outube.com/perboysen

--0015174be49656051104b08f3757-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 31 04:04:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0387183466; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 04:04:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 04:04:20 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:04:03 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Adding Water to Acid - New video on You Tube Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112664 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 04:04:21 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I've posted another video on You Tube -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjpA_NebJM4 "Adding Water to Acid" is a live recording by Dr T, Video Mixing, Glynis (dragonwoman) Lomon, cello and voice, and Andrea Pensado, electronics and voice. The piece was performed and recorded at Outpost 186, Cambridge MA, on Oct. 28, 2011. In chemistry lab I was taught to never add water to acid, and the reaction can be strong enough to cause the acid to splatter in your face. Glynis and Andrea are two of the finest "In your face" musicians I know. Enjoy the images, the music and the noise! You are also invited to check out my still photography at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ -- " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 31 04:40:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF5D3183463; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 04:40:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 472 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 04:40:40 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Q1+yQNg7D4TWjf/idUtxcrWlu2a4ROM7orEDHOcH734smpuczqXhyj16bzKo5ERn; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <14817257.1320035557681.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 21:32:37 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Another New Video Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48b2a321e90494bdc6558b80b60b166acda2d4e88014a4647c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.50 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112665 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 04:40:40 +0000 (UTC) that vid freekd me out Teddy!! -----Original Message----- >From: tEd =C2=AE KiLLiAn >Sent: Oct 30, 2011 3:54 PM >To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Another New Video > >Hello again there friends and fiends alike. I've just put another little e= xperimental little video on YouTube - music and video both by me and hot fr= om the proverbial oven (music just completed yesterday, and video this afte= rnoon). I off it up for your perusal and public ridicule: From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 31 07:36:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 275A6183461; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 07:36:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 692316889/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.21.66/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.21.66 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiICACtOrk5YbRVC/2dsb2JhbAAMN5ogkggBAQEBAgE4QAYLCxgJFg8JAwIBAgFFHAGHfgimLYxmiQIEmSiMRQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,429,1315177200"; d="scan'208";a="692316889" Message-ID: <4EAE5009.4080504@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 07:36:41 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Sounds looped, but isn't References: <4EA16561.20300@tiscali.co.uk> <0382D096-DDEF-4924-835B-9E31C270A0E4@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112666 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 07:36:35 +0000 (UTC) Art Simon wrote: > Very Nice! I'm guessing it's the bagpipes without the bag, so I'll throw > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmaicurzPb0 Yup, or even bagpipes *before* the bag :-) That instrument ('launeddas' in Sardinia) goes back 3000 yrs. The modern day Launeddas has the clever feature that the lowest note from each 'chanter' blends into the drone so well that staccato playing can be simulated while circular breathing. ...and it's just 6 bits of reed put together with string and wax. andy > On Oct 21, 2011, at 8:28 AM, andy butler wrote: > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzWITU3L-F0 > > > > and make sure you keep going till the end > > > > andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 31 10:55:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 968E1183466; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:55:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Sz+zvJD8cgD3qEkYKXrNawQoJExwFkKnQWYjkckLMQM=; b=nUZ49sTVJqYFhyELxerrAmBhRupJKvbUZs/uECZdusiD0OKwFNThsHD7uoQ8tonTSl ixfsAj11OnQTJkn3Mack724DXoHnLtBhX8Me1Th6Ozj8bFXhCrJmWdYhqw64RuJkT11q ilCgV+mxDJMudKjwCZ7fBOSrt9chAVwscbsjw= Message-ID: <4EAE7E95.8040004@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:55:17 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Another New Video References: <0D018079-D607-44C8-9E1E-19EE403FF891@charter.net> <4EADE489.4060601@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112667 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:55:24 +0000 (UTC) tEd ® KiLLiAn schrieb: > Rainer, > > I don't even know what IDM means (though I think I can guess). > "IDM" is short for "intelligent dance music", and is not so much a genre, as a set of properties that music of different (electronic) dance genres can have - most of the time, it refers to the property that it's not a stupid techno or house beat going on for minutes. Important artists in IDM include (in no specific order) Autechre, Aphex Twin/Richard D. James, Venetian Snares, Squarepusher/Tom Jenkinsons, The Sabres of Paradise etc. > The basic underlying "beat" tracks were an outtake of the collaboration I did with Krispen Hartung last year "Dance Music for Inanimate Objects" > Fun stuff - just had a quick listen now. Even though he has been specializing on much different things, Krispen still sounds best when he's playing typical post-bebop/fusion electric guitar parts ;). Speaking of which, here's another IDM track featuring Krispen: http://moinlabs.bandcamp.com/track/aspirin-age - it turns "IDM" about 5 minutes into the track. > It started out as a segment about 2-3 times as long snipped from a three and a half hour recording session. > > Does that make sense? > Frankly, I was more interested in how you did the video here* ;). Did I miss the explanation in your mail, or did you decide not to "dance about architecture" in that case? Rainer *: it's mostly because I myself have a proven track record, as they say, of having snippets from some projects lying around for years, only to be recontextualized later... -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 31 12:26:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85E3C183463; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:26:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bHPZoE3yPQ2Lo6AnnGfA1ydlwJ8VByYyXx3dTrqcMEk=; b=HCMB+Xy1JRgI63CluMFEbAiv/vYFlmwO5XzlLV4N9FpnBzo/HlKZ8TG8C/2wXddlBR 0n3pEj902GgnRwo2sZJKXXsKkl8MU1RpAI17RvZgxQi+rWyB0NXB3OzZlZEGmklR29Z2 W2WRDF6LdN3+pVzgnTo93x3D2FMjKVlrlG+OI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4EAE7E95.8040004@googlemail.com> References: <0D018079-D607-44C8-9E1E-19EE403FF891@charter.net> <4EADE489.4060601@googlemail.com> <4EAE7E95.8040004@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:26:34 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Another New Video From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <54u11B.A.3GB.7PprOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112668 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:26:35 +0000 (UTC) i couldn't watch the video, it made my eyes/brain hurt, but i scrolled it off screen and listened to the music, which i thought was terrific! sim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 31 12:40:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD18C183464; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:40:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:40:07 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_6ebb682e-111e-4cc6-a848-3704918cc930_" X-Originating-IP: [75.106.117.247] From: joy_top top To: Subject: Re: Pedalboard friendly splitters and mixers? Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 05:35:06 -0700 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2011 12:35:06.0342 (UTC) FILETIME=[850E2860:01CC97C9] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112669 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:40:07 +0000 (UTC) --_6ebb682e-111e-4cc6-a848-3704918cc930_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rather than an AB box for splitting I like the ErnieBall stereo volume/pan = pedal. In pan it will take one input and blend to 2 different signal chains= . I can get wah pedal effects with most any sound. I do wish both inputs wo= uld pan=2C but so far I haven't got it to work that way. In volume mode it= works well to control loop feedback on a rc-50. I've seen various mono 4 channel line mixers out for cheap. = --_6ebb682e-111e-4cc6-a848-3704918cc930_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rather than an AB box for splitt= ing I like the ErnieBall stereo volume/pan pedal. In pan it will take one i= nput and blend to 2 different signal chains. I can get wah pedal effects wi= th most any sound. I do wish both inputs would pan=2C but so far I haven't = got it to work that way. =3B =3BIn volume mode it works well to con= trol loop feedback on a rc-50.

I've seen various mono 4 channel line= mixers out for cheap.
= --_6ebb682e-111e-4cc6-a848-3704918cc930_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 31 15:04:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A9B9183464; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:04:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=CKBBFOpPYfBSFfEY1Rl9efxuAv/fdt7oFsWUUq3BrLQ= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:17 a=aqw1Y-FvRhPBoFrJL5EA:9 a=h14m6Py0p7aNOVPtvrYA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Another New Video From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= In-Reply-To: <4EAE7E95.8040004@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 08:04:25 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <02FC9614-94B0-481A-92FE-0DF0E0FCD4AC@charter.net> References: <0D018079-D607-44C8-9E1E-19EE403FF891@charter.net> <4EADE489.4060601@googlemail.com> <4EAE7E95.8040004@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <0limIB.A.9LD.7jrrOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112670 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:04:27 +0000 (UTC) Rainer, On Oct 31, 2011, at 3:55 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Frankly, I was more interested in how you did the video here* ;). Did = I miss the explanation in your mail, or did you decide not to "dance = about architecture" in that case? I did not It is fairly simple actually. In iMovie, I placed a few hundred (500-600) still images from my = collection of things gathered and created over decades - personal = images, things I created, things I like, or that mean something to me. I essentially made a slide show with no transitions between images (no = crossfades or wipes, just instant change) and set the duration of each = image to a mere fraction of a second (0.0625 sec.). Yet, this was still not fast enough, so I brought the resulting video = clip into another program, HyperEngine Montage, where I could speed it = up even more. I made two versions - one clip had about 12.5 frames per second, and the = other one 25 (about as fast as video will allow). Still in HyperEngine Montage, I superimposed these two video streams on = top of one another and did an extremely slow (4 minute long) crossfade = between them. What you see at the beginning of the video (after the count-in and title = etc.) is the slide show at 12.5 frames per second.. Ever so slowly, this transitions (via the long crossfade) to one that is = twice as fast - which is what you see at the end. This is why there is all the mish mash of oddly flickering images in the = middle section (where, by design, the music gets a bit odd and mixed up = too). I am just learning this stuff. The other couple of videos that I posted a month or two ago were created = from royalty-free stock VJ loops that I bought a few libraries of and = cobbled together. This video was all original from me (as far as content goes). In many ways I feel the video is more successful than the music. But neither is especially great. I can do better . . . and hope to. Like I said, I am still learning. Best, Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 31 15:05:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94F76183474; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:05:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=6DnK9SlspjQUafU6MzYmZAt1wpB1MUaNH28Mo/Kfxqk= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:17 a=ghAeOASqfd1LaJPoOnEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Jp2CK1l8H9mZxhYZGqsswA==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Another New Video From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 08:05:50 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <0D018079-D607-44C8-9E1E-19EE403FF891@charter.net> <4EADE489.4060601@googlemail.com> <4EAE7E95.8040004@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112671 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:05:51 +0000 (UTC) Sorry, simon. I have to admit, my wife says the same thing. LOL, Ted On Oct 31, 2011, at 5:26 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > i couldn't watch the video, it made my eyes/brain hurt, but i scrolled > it off screen and listened to the music, which i thought was terrific! > > sim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 31 15:17:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF5A2183463; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:17:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-10-31_02:2011-10-31,2011-10-31,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1110310137 Subject: Re: Another New Video From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: <0D018079-D607-44C8-9E1E-19EE403FF891@charter.net> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 08:16:57 -0700 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: <7F17E390-1003-4BF7-8987-45C1D04CD31B@mac.com> References: <0D018079-D607-44C8-9E1E-19EE403FF891@charter.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <2o3Wt.A.GfD.9vrrOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112672 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:17:17 +0000 (UTC) Creative video editing, Ted! Good stuff. Love the music, D On Oct 30, 2011, at 3:54 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > Hello again there friends and fiends alike. I've just put another = little experimental little video on YouTube - music and video both by me = and hot from the proverbial oven (music just completed yesterday, and = video this afternoon). I off it up for your perusal and public ridicule: = From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 31 19:34:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6FD09183473; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:34:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=+S8XIvg5xzkFBKQ2kcCVW6atjqzFlNHA88vdQzsOkdo=; b=BlD1tQ2PShGtT6geeQOHHJtO3YTQ9vpI4o0MrfS74E9tnHxmI1LVERQEVtHYNFm2bm IIZd3rJQFOVwrIKnj7UXiMnuQhiXNr+aaugNAETQDbWMA3Oyhte4Rts2NzeaOAvhhqp1 chLSCZIyWLZI5IP7AzPx/dp+gw+3P0bjwp5Xw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 00:34:06 +0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: my first livelooping experience From: Boris Plotnikov To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112673 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:34:09 +0000 (UTC) Many thanks for kind words! Glad you like it! -- Thanks, Boris Plotnikov