OT RE: Acid / AE

["Jonathan El-Bizri" <jonathan@full-moon.com>]

[Jonathan:]
>> Click on the properties tab for the sample and change the number of
>> '8th notes' from 8 to 7.
>
>Ahh, thanks Jonathan .. I need never leave the house again .... :-)
>
>One thing I did notice is if you have, say, a loop of 16 beats, and a loop
>of 15 .. each @ 120 bpm, you can't specify the number of 8th notes as "8"
>and "7.5" .. so you have to say "16" and "15" and double the bpm to 240 
>(or
>as close as possible). Anyone found a trick for this? .. or is it just a
>sign that I shouldn't be doing 15/16 polyrhythms? .. no remixing Trey Gunn
>albums then.

'Friad so. No remixing Mr. Gunn, unless you place a cheesy four on the 
floor
bass drum behind him, and have some nasty woman croon over the top of a 4/4
dance piano riff during the chorus.

You can always make the loop twice as long in an audio editor so that it
>is< 15 eight notes.

[Michael:]
>> I just listened to a CD of Autechre (Chiastic Slide) and they have
>> very nice percussive electronic sounds. How did they create them?
>> it doesn't sound like your regular drum machine.
>
>I really like Autechre .. if you get a chance, check out "444" from the
>"Incunabula" CD .. I love that track. Anyway, I think the lads rarely use
>stock sounds of any kind .. they build the "drum" track from sampled and
>treated sounds (like dogs barking etc.) and analogue generated sounds
>(using lots of LFO tweaking). I've never read anything about how they
>actually do it .. they keep a low public profile!

I have a bunch of their cds and after quite some initial fascination, grew
tired of them quickly. In the same vein, you might want to check out 'Music
has the right to Children' the cd release by Boards of Canada. This cd held
my interest a lot longer.

>From what I've heard, Autechre are somewhat retro snobs - they use lots of
old retrofitted and converted gear - taking apart the oscillator sections 
of
DX7s and transplanting them into other gear. For everything they've talked
about interveiws, their sounds aren't so frontier breaking. Still, if 
that's
what they enjoy, more power to them (and you of course - YMMV)

You could get much more for less with a copy of reaktor running on a second
pc, and even more bang for buck just using the little shareware apps and
samples lying aroud the net. There is so much stuff around, if you're
willing to work with what you get, you can make so awesome music on the
cheap.

>I've found Audiomulch is a handy tool for generating these kind of sounds
>.. link up a load of contraptions and tweak the parameters until you have
>something you like .. then export to a WAV file. You can start with a
>sample in the "Loop Player" 'trap or start with an "analogue" style
>waveform using the "10 Harmonics" 'trap. (still doesn't sound exactly like
>AE, but a start)

You might want to check out X-incarn - it's a beat editor which has some
pretty interesting functions, such as being able to specifiy resonance,
cutoff, distortion, pitch and direction on each 16th note.

You can find the demo (fully functional except for save) and a whole load
more at www.sonicspot.com  (In fact you might want to go there for any
little shareware sound proggies).

Another place which comes to mind, for no reason really, is
http://analogsamples.com - lots of instrument samples for free.

bIz