Gibson has been bought up by fender?

["L. Angulo" <labalou2000@yahoo.com>]

Is this true?
maybe things will get better for the EDP
but then again...
Louie




--- Catilyne <catilyne@icicle.net> wrote:
> At 09:13 PM 4/9/2004, Damon Grossman wrote:
> 
> >QUESTIONS:
> >Is there another looping product besides EDP that
> gives you independence of
> >tracks and stereo?
> >How can i buy two EDPS?
> >How much per EDP should I expect to pay?
> >Should i buy new or used?
> >ebay? I just saw one go for around $630 used.
> Aren't they around $1000 new?
> >West La Music, a local music store?
> >Direct from Gibson?
> 
> Damon, I'm sure a lot of other people will chime in
> with their thoughts, 
> but since it seems to have been a whole two hours
> with no reply <*gasp*>, 
> I'll go ahead and get things kicked off.
> 
> First, the EDP+ is listed at Musician's Fiend for
> $799 even as we speak, 
> but from what I understand there's a supply-side
> problem with actually 
> getting them in the stores.  A quick peruse through
> the archives should 
> fill in some of the blanks, or perhaps some of the
> individuals more closely 
> linked to the situation will step in.  It does seem
> as if a lot of the 
> users here recommend Alto Music, however, and they
> may be a good bet for an 
> EDP purchase once they begin coming back into the
> stores.  Used units on 
> Ebay may go for cheaper, but make certain they've
> had their memory filled 
> up (the new units come with max memory, if I
> remember correctly).  Also, 
> you may have to pony up for a foot controller if
> your don't already have one.
> 
> Next, I must say that I agree wholeheartedly with
> your philosophy regarding 
> stereo (these days, I mostly play synths so all my
> sound sources are 
> stereo).  With the EDP, you do have to buy two units
> and brother sync them 
> together to achieve stereo functionality.  For that
> reason, I'm not an EDP 
> user myself.  Personally, the stereo thing is the
> one issue that always 
> blew the EDP's price-to-value ratio out of the water
> for me.  If I've got 
> to save up almost two grand to get a stereo EDP,
> then I'll save for a bit 
> longer and get an Eventide or, better yet, a Kyma. 
> Anyway, end soapbox -- 
> as always, YMMV and there are others here who
> certainly feel differently.
> 
> Also, there is evidently an effort in the works to
> port the EDP's operating 
> software over to the Soundarts Chameleon.  While
> there will be obviously be 
> some limitations of other sorts on that platform, at
> least it'll stop 
> myself and various others from whingeing on about
> the EDP's lack of stereo 
> support at a reasonable price-point.
> 
> As for alternate options, you should start by going
> through the 'Tools of 
> the Trade' section of the Loopers Delight website ( 
> http://www.loopersdelight.com/tools/tools.html ). 
> My personal choice is 
> the Electrix Repeater, which is a favorite of many
> others here on the list 
> as well.  It features four independent tracks which
> can be used separately 
> or linked into stereo pairs, as well as some nice
> extras (effects loop, 
> ability to shift time and pitch independent of each
> other, loop 
> storage/recall via CFC, etc.).  Though discontinued,
> you can still find 
> them on Ebay for around $800 these days.
> 
> Some of the other options that take stereo into
> account:  On the upper end, 
> you've got the aforementioned Eventide Orville or
> the Symbolic Sound Kyma, 
> both of which will allow you to at the very least
> reconfigure the 
> algorithms in order to customize the box for your
> task (heck, the Kyma is 
> actually a programmable hardware platform which can
> be customized to be 
> just about anything you want -- effects or
> otherwise).  Then you've got the 
> old dependable Lexicon units -- like the Jamman or
> the PCM-42 -- which 
> still perform well.  And at the low end, you've got
> quirkier boxes like the 
> Cycloops.  These may not exactly be your cup of tea
> or they may be exactly 
> what you're looking for.  As I said before, YMMV.
> 
> >Other percussion loopers unite. I am looking for
> other loopers who are also
> >percussionists. It seems that the majority of
> members of this group are
> >guitarists.
> 
> There are a good deal of guitarists here, but there
> are a lot of other 
> instrumentalists as well -- bass, synths, winds,
> orchestral 
> strings....  There are also quite a few kickass
> looping percussionists 
> hanging out here too, but I'll let them step up and
> introduce themselves in 
> their own time.  Welcome to the list; I don't think
> you'll be disappointed 
> in the least.  :)
> 
>          -c-
> 
> _____
> "i want to reach my hand into the dark and *feel*
> what reaches back"
>                                                 
> -recoil
> 


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