Re: Ableton Live attention Per Boyson

["CM" <listmail@asyouthink.com>]

I currently use Ableton Live, but not for real-time-recorded / live looping
(just haven't got there yet, mostly (I'm relatively new to Ableton -- used
to be a Fruityloops guy, until I found Ableton...A is for AMAZING.   
Anyway,
I also think my soundcard MAY be too slow (it's an older ECHO Gina 2-in,
6-out.... any opinions on that?).

Anyway, for live looping, I sync'd Ableton as a clock master to my Repeater
(which I love), and we've been having a great time together, along w/the
mixer, effects gear, etc....

My question is this: Anyone have any opinions on the the 
Ableton-as-a-looper
setup vs. Ableton+Repeater-as-a-looper?  I understand the layering /
overdubbing "plus" of the Repeater vs. the single-pass recording on Live,
and the multiple-tracks-in-parallel "plus" of Abletonn; but are their any
other pros / cons to consider?


I'm having a great time in "live looping land" these days -- which, in many
respects, is new territory for me.  Thanks to all who post here; I'm soakin
it up like a sponge.  : )


Cass

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Per Boysen" <per@boysen.se>
To: "Loopers" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 1:55 AM
Subject: Re: Ableton Live attention Per Boyson


> On 04-04-20 04.34,  "damongrossman@comcast.net"
<damongrossman@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Per:
> >
> > Can you loop live audio into Ableton Live if you have a computer on
stage?
> > For example, i don't necessarily want to buy an Echoplex.  #1
availability
> > #2price.
>
>
> Definitely! Many musicians do that. I'm using a Behringer FCB1010 midi
foot
> controller to record enable tracks in Live and trigger recording as well
as
> trigger loop playback. But you have to get a good soundcard that usually
> costs as much as the laptop. Here I'm using a RME Multiface that has a
> little software mixer of its own that lets me split my instrument/mic
input
> in two streams; one going directly to the PA system/amp and one going 
>into
> the Live software.
>
> But you should know that looping live on Live/laptop is not close to the
> fluent way you get along with an Echoplex. I would say that if you can
> "play" music with an Echoplex you have to "construct" music in Ableton
Live.
> And you can not overdub into a loop in Live, as you do with an Echoplex.
And
> no reversed audio file playback in Live either (a cool Echoplex feature)
>
> Advantages with Live compared to the EDP are that you can run many
parallel
> tracks/loops and easily save a session/gig to the hard drive. If you are
> running Live in "record mode" not only your on-the-spot played live loops
> will be recorded but also the "live mixing" aspect of your gig. Like if
you
> do cross fades between groups of tracks/loops or if you enable/mute
effects
> at certain parts of the show. Well, even if you manipulate a loop it will
be
> recorded the way you did it (thinking about stuff like changing the loop
> length to create poly rhythms or re-pitching loops on the fly).
>
> Best wishes
>
> Per Boysen
> -- 
> www.boysen.se
> www.looproom.com
>
>
>