I've added a few more effect sound samples to my gear web page, related to this discussion thread: http://www.boisemusicians.com/gear.htm (you can right click links and "save as" to download clips rather than playing them from the site) Click on the red Boss VF-1 and listen to Sound Sample #3 (double-click the unit to make the info window go away) Click on the Alesis Akria and listen to Sound Sample #3 (double-click the unit to make the info window go away) OR the direct links: Alesis Akira - Sound Sample #3 (Scratchy-poppy, vinal record simluator and Decimator effect...in that order) http://www.myweb.cableone.net/chagstrom2/music/kris-hartung/gear-samples /akira-vinal-decimator.rm Boss VF-1 - Sound Sample #3 (Lo-Fi Processor effect with real time sample and bit rate modification) http://www.myweb.cableone.net/chagstrom2/music/kris-hartung/gear-samples /vf-1-lo-fi.rm You can actually select 1 bit sample rate emulation, which is reaaally nasty.... :) You can do a lot more with these effects using an expression pedal, but I didn't have time to get into that. K- ********************************* Krispen Hartung http://www.krispenhartung.com info@krispenhartung.com View improvisational / real-time looping videos: http://www.myweb.cableone.net/chagstrom2/music/kris-hartung/catalogue.ht m#videos