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RE: gratuitous nostalgia     was:  re: Looping in prehistory
Title: Re: gratuitous nostalgia     was:  re: Looping in prehistory
I was 
at that show too Dude!!! with Alex Acuna on drums, and Manalo Badrena (?) on 
percussion,  and I can't argue with your documentation (though I'd love to 
hear it), though I saw him/Them at San Jose Perfoming Arts Center as well, 
perhaps the following tour,  I had a much better seat, he had a blue face 
MXR rack delay, and I remember distinctly ,badadabompbomp badadabompbomp 
 badadabompbomp badadabompbomp ,beap diddle deedee dee debomp  beap diddle deedee dee dee OK? so 
please don't fog my fuzzy memory, OK? 
:-)
  Bill- wasnt it 
  180bpm budda budda bambitty bam bam-di dit dit bomp be bomp boop bomp de 
  bomp-er sompin?
i saw the immortal JACO w/ WeatherReport @ Winterland here 
  in the city in 1978 and i made a live tape of it which i'm listening to right 
  now-sounds great!(gotta figure out how to get this to digital 
  someday)
anyway the bass solo is approx 10min.w/ tributes to JIMI 
  andSomewhere o t r, and some Charlie Parker-But NO Looping-so i guess he got 
  that MXR the next year in time for Joni and forever 
  more...
s
on 12/20/05 8:48 PM, William Walker at 
  billwalker@baymoon.com wrote:
  If I remember 
    correctly,  Jaco's solo loop piece I saw went something like 
    this:
badadabompbomp badadabompbomp  badadabompbomp badadabompbomp 
    
to which he added:
beap diddle deedee dee debomp 
e 
    beap 
    diddle deedee dee dee
After that I'm not so sure  Ha Ha!  but I 
    do remember the finale of him leaping from the top of his Acoustic amp on to 
    his oscillating bass ,yanking the plug from it , and sending it shooting 
    across the stage. I'm still not quite sure if that was intentional or not! 
     LOL
Bill
    -----Original Message-----
From: daniel 
      stevenson [mailto:stillllscary@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 
      December 20, 2005 7:52 PM
To: 
      Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: gratuitous 
      nostalgia was: re: Looping in prehistory
could that be the 
      green mxr delay pedal?
i spent a whole two weeks pay from the gameroom 
      to get the green pedal & a ev micro synthesizer pedal...cool stuff for 
      the early 80's
very versitile as a noise maker,sweeps of 100 percent 
      regenerations into sirens and windy soundscapes.
it quit working for 
      some reason,but so did i so...go figure
had a power cord like a 
      refridgerator 
i loved that green delay
dl4 has the same feel,some 
      day nostalgic...
i like this off topic 
      crap,
                                      drop 
      d "boo"psycic
"loop.pool" <looppool@cruzio.com> 
      wrote:
      from Jaco's biography:
"As Jaco described the effect, 
        "I've got an MXR Digital
Delay, which I put through one 
        amp"
Doh!!!!!! I had remembered it, innacurately as an ADA 
        when, of course, it 
was an MXR delay.
I always have a problem 
        remembering the names of those early digital delays 
(MXR, Delta 
        Labs, ADA, Korg, etc.)
They were all out of my price range and were 
        state of the art in their day 
(and thus, fairly
pricey by a 
        beginning musicians' standards).
I can see that unit clearly 
        though. with it's big blue 
faceplate...............I think he was 
        still using Acoustic amps, wasn't 
he?
Someone posted a long 
        time ago that they saw me using that MXR rack mount 
unit in Union 
        Grove music about that time
using it's piddly but exciting short loop 
        time with a microphone. I was 
really into the music of the 
        Ituri
Pygmies who used yodelling techniques and a cool technique 
        where you sing a 
note into a shor! t piece of
closed off bamboo 
        (or you can use a small old fashioned ink bottle, as well) 
and sing 
        a falsetto note
in between blowing on the bottles.
With that 
        MXR unit (which I went into the store and 'demoed' every day for a 
        
week or so until I wore out my
welcome with the owner) I could 
        make a loop and keep adding onto it, 
simulating a whole small tribe 
        of Pygmies.
Wow, was that exciting..............and so outrageously 
        out of my budget to 
buy.
****************************
This 
        thread is really kicking off of my memory of those very exciting days 
        
(punk, new wave, electronic music, et. al.)
in the first couple 
        of years of the 1980's. At one point there were 45 all 
original new 
        wave bands playing in Santa Cruz
in a half a dozen small venues that 
        featured all original music five to 
seven days a week.
I also 
        remember using an Effectron 1024 (a massive 1.024 seconds of sampling 
        
time) made by Delta Labs at the
o! ld Art Centre theatre in Santa 
        Cruz.
I made a vocal loop with it and then increased the speed so 
        much that it 
was like a percussion loop, 
        completely
unintelligible for it's speed.......................and 
        used it as the basis 
for an improvisation with Tao 
        Electrical,
the group I had with Not Michael (Michael Haumesser) and 
        Jim Rutledge that 
was a side project for our more
popular new 
        wave band at the time, Tao Chemical.
At the end of the piece I 
        slowed the Effectron speed down until right at the 
last second 
        (literally) you could understand
that the loop said, "It doesn't mean 
        a fucking thing," and then turned it 
off, ending the 
        piece.
LOL, that sentence came from an anecdote I heard about 
        where Baba Ram Dass 
had climbed high into the Himalya to find
a 
        reclusive spiritual master who lived in a cave up on the mountain. When 
        
he got to the top of this arduous climb he asked the
hermit, 
        "What's the meaning of life" , to! which the hermit replied, "It 
        
doesn't mean a fucking thing". 
      
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