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Re: EHX 2880 or 45000 users say it loud say it proud!



Nice thread about the 45000. I am a longtime LP1 user, but have been 
wanting to move away from it for a while, in fact havent looped for more 
than a year because I just got tired of issues with it. I was thinking of 
either going to the 45000 or laptop , but I sure like the 8 loops on the 
LP1, I use a midi work surface which gives me a lot of control. 

Any suggestions? I have a couple of Steinberg D/A's I could use in 
implementing laptop looping. 

Andy O not B

On Dec 11, 2013, at 10:34 AM, marc@clubcapelli.com wrote:

> Happy to see you write about the 45000;
> 
> 
> @ Rusty :
> 
>> It seems then that on the ehx 2880/45000 a loop consists of 4
>> independant tracks and a stereo master track.
>> These independant tracks are all the same length and cannot be played
>> independantly, they must be synced.
>> To move from loop to loop, these loops must be saved on the card.
>> And, if I wanted to use more than one loop in a song, for a
>> verse/chorus for example, then I would have to recall the second loop
>> from the card, or begin building it.
>> I imagine that one can program a midi pedal to save a loop, then
>> switch between loops, forward and backward.
>> It sounds very powerful.
> 
> yes, 100% yes !
> 
> 
>> I suppose I could use a drum machine, but that complicates things more. 
>> :-)
> 
> yes, it's my choice, for exemple a Boss DR-880, or a MPC
> 
> 
> @ Charles :
> 
>> The question of individual track replacement is an interesting one.
>> In the Reggie Watts demonstration on youtube he appears to swap the
>> bass line for a new one and then goes back to the original bass line
>> without interrupting the  groove.
>> How is this achieved on the 45000?
> 
> in fact, he use 2 different loops : he first build one (verse for 
> exemple) with all the tracks, and then on 4:05 he start to build the 
> second one (for exemple chorus), on the fly
> I rather prepare my loops, with nothing on it (I left blank) just to 
> have the right duration, using the QUANTIZE function, wich is great used 
> with a midi sync drum machine or workstation : you have EXACTLY the 
> right duration for your loop, depending of the bar duration on other 
> midi machines. That way, all is perfectly sync, and fit exactly.
> 
> 
> @ Rusty :
> 
>> It sounded to me like he began a new loop, with a new bass line and  a
>> new rhythm pattern, sang over that for a bit, then went back to the
>> original one.
> 
> yes, exactly !
> 
> 
>> Sure would be cool if it is possible to play tracks from two loops at
>> the same time. :-)
> 
> no, this is not possible, only 1 loop (4 + 2 tracks) at a time
> 
> 
> @ Neal :
> 
>> BTW, EHX should allow a playing loop to be saved to any loop slot, not 
>> just the playing loop's slot.
> 
> it is not possible on the 45000, but if you insert the SDCard in a 
> computer, you can do it, just rename the track number, after copying it
> 
> 
> @ Charles :
> 
>> In the case of Reggie Watts demonstration, he has the "beat" on one 
>> track, the "percussion (hi-hats)" on another, the bass on another, and 
>> the harmonies on a fourth.
> 
> yes, this is the multi-track concept of the 2880/45000, very powerfull : 
> one instrument on one track, and PAN and Volume for each track
> Reggie Watts use 4 track, but if he press "TRACK SELECT" one more time, 
> he can use the MIXDOWN track as an other track, in stereo, so he have 5 
> different tracks : 4 with a PAN and 1 in stereo
> 
>> After reading the 45000 manual,  the ONLY differences I can see between 
>> the 2880 and the 45000 are these:
> 
> in fact, here are the differences I notice, using the 2880 and the 45000 
> (I own the 2) :
> 
> 
> - due to multi-loop, we can now simply do 
> intro/verse/chorus/bridge/outro...
> "If the 45000 is playing back a loop and you change loop numbers, the 
> Foot Controller will blink the new loop number indicating that you are 
> currently playing back a different loop. The 45000 will change to the 
> new loop number once the current loop has played out to its end point."
> 100 loops on each SD card, as many cards as we want, hot plug...
> 
> - loop change with a midi pedalboard : I program my pedalboard to have 
> for each song => intro switch 1/verse switch 2/chorus switch 3/bridge 
> switch 4/outro switch 5 and I choose the best time in song to switch 
> from one to another, VERY simple (it's better to be simple on stage...). 
> This is a power feature : you can run the bridge as long as you want on 
> live...
> 
> - 34 pro rythm are included on the 45000, these ARE FREE : YOU CAN 
> DOWNLOAD THEM HERE even if you are not a 45000 owner (Thx EHX) for 
> another looper for exemple : 
> http://www.ehx.com/assets/ehx-45000-drum-loops-v1.zip
> 
> - SD cards (the 2880 was CF cards) from 4 to 32Go, mine was with a 4 Go, 
> but I have now other cards, for other projects (and 1 in spare for 
> Live!...)
> 
> - import / export audio files from computer is more easy than with the 
> 2880, perfect for backtrack (.WAV in 44.1kHz and 16-bit)
> 
> - new sync MIDI mode : "EXT.CLOCK" button have now 3 states in place of 
> 2 : "Full Ext. Clock Mode", "Beat Sync Ext. Clock Mode"...
> 
> - monitor out : same as headphone out, but mono (good for pedal output 
> for exemple)
> 
> - different pedalboard : we win loop up and down, but lost REVERSE, 
> OCTAVE and NEW LOOP switchs :(
> 
> - SD card reader is hot plug : you can switch SD card during live 
> without powering off the 45000, just stop the loop and change the card, 
> fast and easy, great for the live!...
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Marc
> 
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